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On June 28 2018 11:10 Mocsta wrote:
You guys should take a break, breathe deep and read the content before firing.
CopCake is saying I am super bad.. not yo Calix.
No need to wring each others necks. I think we are all town here.
Nah, she said both 
You're probably right though. I'm not really feeling the mafia vibes from anyone so it's just a matter of waiting for the less-townie people to get online and react.
In the meantime, I'm going to bed.
As an aside, I start having longer work shifts from tomorrow so when I drop off and can't spam my way to a 9-page filter every cycle, don't be surprised. I will say this about 3505437609 times just so people get the message ^^
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On June 28 2018 11:24 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 11:20 Mocsta wrote:
Hi CopCake,
Not sure about anyone trying to be town leader,
but I am curious if you have updated thoughts on Rayn, in particular given there are several leaning scum on him.
Apologies if you have addressed some of this already. What makes rayn mafia? Explain to me on a case because last I remember me and you had the same reads and suddenly in 5 min you changed your mind. I dont know why you have to be like this?
I am asking you because my read on Rayn hasnt changed throughout the game; whereas, for others, it is visibly changing.
I am genuinely interested in your feedback.
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On June 28 2018 11:25 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 11:22 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 11:10 Mocsta wrote:
You guys should take a break, breathe deep and read the content before firing.
CopCake is saying I am super bad.. not yo Calix.
No need to wring each others necks. I think we are all town here. You may be right, but I'm also all for figuring out a good way of actually getting everyone on that page. It doesn't work to well to say "hey you are all town, don't worry about it" when half the people are still muttering under their breath. However yea, breaks are good. Yeah I get that, but honestly, I kinda skimmed past the past 2-3 pages cos it looks like people yelling at each other. Perhaps there is content there but I am not motivated to read through it... I cant imagine I am the only one feeling that. Any thoughts about Vivax? I noticed that in HF list he put Vivax as leaning town.
Yea I agree, Vivax looks pretty townie to me here. He's been a bit off the walls, but not by a huge margine. I glanced over a bit of his filter at some point and it looks a lot more like Vivax trying to figuer out a world that makes sense to him that trying to see what shit-flinging would stick.
Especially Vivax's eod, he pushed for who he wanted lynched, and defended people he thought were town. He was pretty invovled and made some good points.
Actually looking back over a bit of his filter, he looks really towny from my PoV kus he had made some posts earlier about suspecting I could be mafia, so I know he could have easily gotten me lynched. Given how active I am being this game, I can't imagine mafia being that willing to save me to help get BF lynched.
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On June 28 2018 11:33 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 11:25 Mocsta wrote:On June 28 2018 11:22 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 11:10 Mocsta wrote:
You guys should take a break, breathe deep and read the content before firing.
CopCake is saying I am super bad.. not yo Calix.
No need to wring each others necks. I think we are all town here. You may be right, but I'm also all for figuring out a good way of actually getting everyone on that page. It doesn't work to well to say "hey you are all town, don't worry about it" when half the people are still muttering under their breath. However yea, breaks are good. Yeah I get that, but honestly, I kinda skimmed past the past 2-3 pages cos it looks like people yelling at each other. Perhaps there is content there but I am not motivated to read through it... I cant imagine I am the only one feeling that. Any thoughts about Vivax? I noticed that in HF list he put Vivax as leaning town. Yea I agree, Vivax looks pretty townie to me here. He's been a bit off the walls, but not by a huge margine. I glanced over a bit of his filter at some point and it looks a lot more like Vivax trying to figuer out a world that makes sense to him that trying to see what shit-flinging would stick. Especially Vivax's eod, he pushed for who he wanted lynched, and defended people he thought were town. He was pretty invovled and made some good points. Actually looking back over a bit of his filter, he looks really towny from my PoV kus he had made some posts earlier about suspecting I could be mafia, so I know he could have easily gotten me lynched. Given how active I am being this game, I can't imagine mafia being that willing to save me to help get BF lynched.
Imagine that, a game where the sentence "Tictock is contributing more than X player" can be said 
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On June 28 2018 11:27 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 11:10 Mocsta wrote:
You guys should take a break, breathe deep and read the content before firing.
CopCake is saying I am super bad.. not yo Calix.
No need to wring each others necks. I think we are all town here. Nah, she said both You're probably right though. I'm not really feeling the mafia vibes from anyone so it's just a matter of waiting for the less-townie people to get online and react. In the meantime, I'm going to bed. As an aside, I start having longer work shifts from tomorrow so when I drop off and can't spam my way to a 9-page filter every cycle, don't be surprised. I will say this about 3505437609 times just so people get the message ^^
Better make it 3505437615, just to be safe.
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My feedback is that I am not seeing raynmafia! In this game.
Last time he was mafia it was a rsoultin game, the drawing game in which I had a very difficult time with HF and many others (I bet you are not surprised) and I could feel rayn mafia but I wasnt 100% sure, Rayn made this huge “OMG I feel so insulted brb gonna be modkilled” and the host “cleared him” and HF also did so the rest of the game he afk’d forever and in this game he hasnt done that.
In fact, he took the time to read my other games, he was probably not so sure about me because if I remember correctly I jumped on him and told him the whole meme case was dumb since it was a meme, deffended TT, etc (Wow I sheep rayn too much!) until he noticed that I had a meta (Which I never realized) and got a FACT to prove all of YOu that I am town. I never saw this as a pocketing because if he wanted to pocket me he would be all super buddy buddy but no, he was firm and like neutral towards me.
He then did a case for Calix, he has been scumhunting and putting effort, his most “eh” post is when I said the only way he could be mafia is if Calix is town but that is it.
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On June 28 2018 11:33 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 11:25 Mocsta wrote:On June 28 2018 11:22 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 11:10 Mocsta wrote:
You guys should take a break, breathe deep and read the content before firing.
CopCake is saying I am super bad.. not yo Calix.
No need to wring each others necks. I think we are all town here. You may be right, but I'm also all for figuring out a good way of actually getting everyone on that page. It doesn't work to well to say "hey you are all town, don't worry about it" when half the people are still muttering under their breath. However yea, breaks are good. Yeah I get that, but honestly, I kinda skimmed past the past 2-3 pages cos it looks like people yelling at each other. Perhaps there is content there but I am not motivated to read through it... I cant imagine I am the only one feeling that. Any thoughts about Vivax? I noticed that in HF list he put Vivax as leaning town. Yea I agree, Vivax looks pretty townie to me here. He's been a bit off the walls, but not by a huge margine. I glanced over a bit of his filter at some point and it looks a lot more like Vivax trying to figuer out a world that makes sense to him that trying to see what shit-flinging would stick. Especially Vivax's eod, he pushed for who he wanted lynched, and defended people he thought were town. He was pretty invovled and made some good points. Actually looking back over a bit of his filter, he looks really towny from my PoV kus he had made some posts earlier about suspecting I could be mafia, so I know he could have easily gotten me lynched. Given how active I am being this game, I can't imagine mafia being that willing to save me to help get BF lynched. hmm that last bit is a good point. As mafia he certainly had the follow through to commit.
Me likey
Do you what koshi was talking about with a "tracker claim"?
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As done as I am with this game and site, I actually find the idea of any of you talking about our alignment while we flake unbearable, so, here's a modkill:
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:01 PM
yeah
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/534607-chill-hop-mafia?page=20#381
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:01 PM
not sure how up to date you are
on the thread
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:01 PM
i don't get how mafia can talk that way
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:01 PM
but i've dumped a LOT of analysis lately
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:01 PM
in that situation
ok
i'm at page 22 or so
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:01 PM
ah, page 25 is
me walling
nonstop
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:02 PM
goodie
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:02 PM
really like that calix post
that you linked
also feel free to correct me if you disagree
but i kind of feel like this second half of d1
has felt even more dead than the first half
and i can easily see that being the case if it's cake/calix
walling each other and scum reading each other and they're t/t here
and scum just standing back
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:04 PM
i mean
i think tt is mafia
and pulled back on scumreading calix at at point where it looked like he was going to be lynched
so yes i think that's the world we're in
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:04 PM
i need to
talk with rayn in real time badly
if he's town here he's likely to decide the lynch
he's got koshi and cake as his 2nd & 3rd voters imo
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:05 PM
yeah
we need to talk to mocsta too
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:07 PM
hum
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:07 PM
he's reading calix for a lot of stuff that doesn't mean anything
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:07 PM
oh, yeah
i'm planning on
dropping a post on calix/cake as a duo-post
and then doing a separate post re; rayns & moscatos cases on calix
is next on my list
after that i've just got a rayn post/vivax post and to talk with you and i'm fully up to date
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:10 PM
ok
i'm not sure if i'm doing well enough to post anything
but i'll try
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:12 PM
np just try and catch up
and read my posts
i'm happy to be the one making the posts in the thread (i have the night free)
but want you to be up to date with where my heads at
so we can have a proper convo
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:19 PM
i'm caught up
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:20 PM
agree HF is VERY town?
i went over calix, dude is obvtown imo
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:21 PM
yes
how confident are you on calix?
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:22 PM
mocsta>hf=calix
huge gap, everyone else
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:23 PM
so let's save him?
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:23 PM
yeah, i'm going over cakes case on him atm
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:23 PM
k
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:23 PM
let me focus on that part?
and you focus on who we're actually lynching
-G
Mocsta, get out of here, you're too nice for this site. Calix, I really like you, you remind me of a good friend of mine from the site where I normally play, you should also never play here again. I really think you're dead wrong on TT. Never ever ever ever ever lynch like that again, please.
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On June 28 2018 11:35 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 11:33 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 11:25 Mocsta wrote:On June 28 2018 11:22 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 11:10 Mocsta wrote:
You guys should take a break, breathe deep and read the content before firing.
CopCake is saying I am super bad.. not yo Calix.
No need to wring each others necks. I think we are all town here. You may be right, but I'm also all for figuring out a good way of actually getting everyone on that page. It doesn't work to well to say "hey you are all town, don't worry about it" when half the people are still muttering under their breath. However yea, breaks are good. Yeah I get that, but honestly, I kinda skimmed past the past 2-3 pages cos it looks like people yelling at each other. Perhaps there is content there but I am not motivated to read through it... I cant imagine I am the only one feeling that. Any thoughts about Vivax? I noticed that in HF list he put Vivax as leaning town. Yea I agree, Vivax looks pretty townie to me here. He's been a bit off the walls, but not by a huge margine. I glanced over a bit of his filter at some point and it looks a lot more like Vivax trying to figuer out a world that makes sense to him that trying to see what shit-flinging would stick. Especially Vivax's eod, he pushed for who he wanted lynched, and defended people he thought were town. He was pretty invovled and made some good points. Actually looking back over a bit of his filter, he looks really towny from my PoV kus he had made some posts earlier about suspecting I could be mafia, so I know he could have easily gotten me lynched. Given how active I am being this game, I can't imagine mafia being that willing to save me to help get BF lynched. Imagine that, a game where the sentence "Tictock is contributing more than X player" can be said
I will be proud of TL mafia when that isn't the case, Sadly 2 people not posting D1 seems fairly average these days.
Luckily we have some amazing hosts around here who put up with this crap.
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On June 28 2018 11:36 CopCake wrote:
My feedback is that I am not seeing raynmafia! In this game.
Last time he was mafia it was a rsoultin game, the drawing game in which I had a very difficult time with HF and many others (I bet you are not surprised) and I could feel rayn mafia but I wasnt 100% sure, Rayn made this huge “OMG I feel so insulted brb gonna be modkilled” and the host “cleared him” and HF also did so the rest of the game he afk’d forever and in this game he hasnt done that.
In fact, he took the time to read my other games, he was probably not so sure about me because if I remember correctly I jumped on him and told him the whole meme case was dumb since it was a meme, deffended TT, etc (Wow I sheep rayn too much!) until he noticed that I had a meta (Which I never realized) and got a FACT to prove all of YOu that I am town. I never saw this as a pocketing because if he wanted to pocket me he would be all super buddy buddy but no, he was firm and like neutral towards me.
He then did a case for Calix, he has been scumhunting and putting effort, his most “eh” post is when I said the only way he could be mafia is if Calix is town but that is it. Thanks,
I'm glad that you mentioned the AFK, cos he did the same thing last time i played scum with him too. Popped in every so and so, and just AFK rest of cycle. He may have mentioned at one point it related to fatigue from rolling scum multiple times in a row, but meh, the impression lasted with me. (a bit like tictock).
I suppose my only comment to above is that I dont know how much it means for him to read your other games BECAUSE of his personal connection with you. As mafia, he may subconsciously feel pressure to put some "science" behind the read; instead of saying, "gut feel". But i dont view this strongly, as it could equally apply to town not wanting to be "bamboozled". Also the way he injected into the thread I think was townish. So meh,.
What do you make of the sudden change in the hydra?
I assume you know at least of them? Is this behaviour plausible?
Like, as scum, why would you kick up a hissy fit if you just got a mislynch on a lurker?
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On June 28 2018 11:43 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 11:36 CopCake wrote:
My feedback is that I am not seeing raynmafia! In this game.
Last time he was mafia it was a rsoultin game, the drawing game in which I had a very difficult time with HF and many others (I bet you are not surprised) and I could feel rayn mafia but I wasnt 100% sure, Rayn made this huge “OMG I feel so insulted brb gonna be modkilled” and the host “cleared him” and HF also did so the rest of the game he afk’d forever and in this game he hasnt done that.
In fact, he took the time to read my other games, he was probably not so sure about me because if I remember correctly I jumped on him and told him the whole meme case was dumb since it was a meme, deffended TT, etc (Wow I sheep rayn too much!) until he noticed that I had a meta (Which I never realized) and got a FACT to prove all of YOu that I am town. I never saw this as a pocketing because if he wanted to pocket me he would be all super buddy buddy but no, he was firm and like neutral towards me.
He then did a case for Calix, he has been scumhunting and putting effort, his most “eh” post is when I said the only way he could be mafia is if Calix is town but that is it. Thanks, I'm glad that you mentioned the AFK, cos he did the same thing last time i played scum with him too. Popped in every so and so, and just AFK rest of cycle. He may have mentioned at one point it related to fatigue from rolling scum multiple times in a row, but meh, the impression lasted with me. (a bit like tictock). I suppose my only comment to above is that I dont know how much it means for him to read your other games BECAUSE of his personal connection with you. As mafia, he may subconsciously feel pressure to put some "science" behind the read; instead of saying, "gut feel". But i dont view this strongly, as it could equally apply to town not wanting to be "bamboozled". Also the way he injected into the thread I think was townish. So meh,.
What do you make of the sudden change in the hydra? I assume you know at least of them? Is this behaviour plausible? Like, as scum, why would you kick up a hissy fit if you just got a mislynch on a lurker?
I like regfan’s posts.
I think Gemma overeacts a lot.
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Explain to me the part of the “hissy fit” please?
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#1228
@ Regfan
I dont know if this is meaningless or not, but, the discord logs is such short conversation compared to how you articulate in the thread.
im quite shocked actually.
Im not going to lie.
One hand it totally makes me go.. ahhh. this is why there is a disconnection
On the other hand. it totally makes me go.. this has to be fake
I suppose I can appreciate the frustration some may feel with how the lynch went down; but; whats weighing in for me is that I thought it was normal across other sites to each random vote on D1. This is heavily advocated by n00bking IIRC.
Im choosing to go down the disconnection route. Primarily because I dont see how your posting style this game suits mafia agenda. In the sense of, if you want to infiltrate town, sure, you have done it. but i dont see how you have been working in a team (aside from each other).
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On June 28 2018 11:49 CopCake wrote:
Explain to me the part of the “hissy fit” please? hahah, hissy fit is "kicking up a stink" , 'being a drama queen", "jumping on the bed and screaming"
I am refering to Regfan declaring he will quit, everyone is a fuckwit etc.
Maybe "Ragequit" would translate well?
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I feel kinda mad yeah, I can understand the feeling but to be like “all of you suck” doesnt work because I dont think we have been bad to reg, I think HF called Gemma out for that.
What I have problems it to clear Calix and TT.
Calix wanted to kill an AFK, she said so when I asked her which were her mafia reads and it seems she had problems to lynch boxfred? I mean maybe is because shotkeys? Was her mafia read but I do think that if she felt firmly that shotkey was mafia she would try to convince people and give reasons why he is mafia and TT isnt.
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Like, if Gemma says I am bad then is ok, if TT says that I sheep etc then I dont mind because I know it is a lie.
My post of “Oh I am gonna get myself modkilled or replaced” was to see if I could get a reaction out of people because well, yeah I dont deserve that but I am not gonna play the victim because I know I am hard to follow.
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So now, someon serious could tell me why rayn is mafia?
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On June 27 2018 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I simply don't have much to add rn. Also when someone acts like complete ass towards me for no reason at all i am gonna grab my tools and go home. I have better things to do than lose my mental health over some idiot.
This still reads to me as using the following shit-slinging as a way to step away from the game. Giving rayn the benefit of the doubt here he would have been reacting to Conversion's "We should always lynch HF" stuff he did at the start.
Oh and this starts on pg 18 and into pg 19 if anyone wants to look themselves.
+ Show Spoiler [Rayn vs Conv] +On June 27 2018 01:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Are you going to read something at some point Conversion? On June 27 2018 01:40 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 01:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Are you going to read something at some point Conversion? No On June 27 2018 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Very good then don't post pls and let us lynch mafia. On June 27 2018 01:42 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Very good then don't post pls and let us lynch mafia. Last time I read the ToS for teamliquid, a man named raynpelikoneet didn't have the right to dictate how/when I can post on these forums On June 27 2018 01:42 Conversion wrote:
But raynpelikoneet being an ass, what else is new On June 27 2018 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 01:42 Conversion wrote:
But raynpelikoneet being an ass, what else is new I am pretty sure gameplaywise you are more of an ass than i am, so if i was you i would shut my mouth on this topic. On June 27 2018 01:44 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 27 2018 01:42 Conversion wrote:
But raynpelikoneet being an ass, what else is new I am pretty sure gameplaywise you are more of an ass than i am, so if i was you i would shut my mouth on this topic. I suggest you don't talk to me for the rest of the game and I will do the same. We enjoy a rather civil relationship when this dynamic is exercised properly! On June 27 2018 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I agree, you're trash. On June 27 2018 01:47 Conversion wrote:Keep the bottle away while you're playing, lush. Toodaloo! On June 27 2018 01:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dont want to have anything to do with this game anymore.
Calix is mafia.
Vivax is mafia.
Maybe Regfan is mafia, idk. Could be boxerfred, Slendy. Maybe 3% Holyflare.
bye.
So this was very much so a fight that Rayn instigated and then later uses as an excuse for stepping away from the game. The exchange feels overall pretty natural so I doubt this is a scum vs scum staged thing.
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On June 28 2018 11:55 CopCake wrote:
I feel kinda mad yeah, I can understand the feeling but to be like “all of you suck” doesnt work because I dont think we have been bad to reg, I think HF called Gemma out for that.
What I have problems it to clear Calix and TT.
Calix wanted to kill an AFK, she said so when I asked her which were her mafia reads and it seems she had problems to lynch boxfred? I mean maybe is because shotkeys? Was her mafia read but I do think that if she felt firmly that shotkey was mafia she would try to convince people and give reasons why he is mafia and TT isnt.
I can read through the dialogue with you/Calix if you would like, but my opinions right now are based on what you are stating.
If calix is mafia, and said, lets kill an AFK.. then why hesistate against boxerfred? I dont see the benefit to drop this read AND then campaign to save tictock.
If anything, thats pretty townie, instead of voting your possible scum read, protect your biggest town read.
Even from a percentage point of view, its more likely to be right on a townread, then a scum read, no?
I do think that Calix play is indicative of someone still recovering from early cases and votes against her.
In particular, the saving townread thing I mentioned just above.
As for TT, I will have to filter dive to understand what your specific issues with his play are.
I can do this when I get back from KFC if you like.
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Yeah in isolation to the game, the "grab my tools and go" thing seemed like a super over reaction.
If anything, you woudl think rayn is super happy to be town, and his gf (copcake) be town.
But, i dont know if there was some "inside story' between rayn/regfan that sparked that reaction.
I have chosen to treat that as null on that assumption; but meh, happy for either to clarify though.
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