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Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 28 2018 03:11 GMT
#1241
Regfan has to be the biggest drama queen I’ve seen in a while, and I have to look at my filter and meta on TLMafia every game
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 28 2018 03:14 GMT
#1242
On June 28 2018 11:38 Regfan wrote:
As done as I am with this game and site, I actually find the idea of any of you talking about our alignment while we flake unbearable, so, here's a modkill:

Gemma - Yesterday at 9:01 PM
yeah
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/534607-chill-hop-mafia?page=20#381
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:01 PM
not sure how up to date you are
on the thread
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:01 PM
i don't get how mafia can talk that way
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:01 PM
but i've dumped a LOT of analysis lately
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:01 PM
in that situation
ok
i'm at page 22 or so
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:01 PM
ah, page 25 is
me walling
nonstop
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:02 PM
goodie
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:02 PM
really like that calix post
that you linked
also feel free to correct me if you disagree
but i kind of feel like this second half of d1
has felt even more dead than the first half
and i can easily see that being the case if it's cake/calix
walling each other and scum reading each other and they're t/t here
and scum just standing back
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:04 PM
i mean
i think tt is mafia
and pulled back on scumreading calix at at point where it looked like he was going to be lynched
so yes i think that's the world we're in
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:04 PM
i need to
talk with rayn in real time badly
if he's town here he's likely to decide the lynch
he's got koshi and cake as his 2nd & 3rd voters imo
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:05 PM
yeah
we need to talk to mocsta too
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:07 PM
hum
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:07 PM
he's reading calix for a lot of stuff that doesn't mean anything
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:07 PM
oh, yeah
i'm planning on
dropping a post on calix/cake as a duo-post
and then doing a separate post re; rayns & moscatos cases on calix
is next on my list
after that i've just got a rayn post/vivax post and to talk with you and i'm fully up to date
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:10 PM
ok
i'm not sure if i'm doing well enough to post anything
but i'll try
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:12 PM
np just try and catch up
and read my posts
i'm happy to be the one making the posts in the thread (i have the night free)
but want you to be up to date with where my heads at
so we can have a proper convo
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:19 PM
i'm caught up
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:20 PM
agree HF is VERY town?
i went over calix, dude is obvtown imo
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:21 PM
yes
how confident are you on calix?
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:22 PM
mocsta>hf=calix
huge gap, everyone else
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:23 PM
so let's save him?
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:23 PM
yeah, i'm going over cakes case on him atm
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:23 PM
k
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:23 PM
let me focus on that part?
and you focus on who we're actually lynching

-G

Mocsta, get out of here, you're too nice for this site. Calix, I really like you, you remind me of a good friend of mine from the site where I normally play, you should also never play here again. I really think you're dead wrong on TT. Never ever ever ever ever lynch like that again, please.


Oh, sorry this is Gemma or whatever your name is. Grow a thicker skin. Maybe half of D1 wouldn’t have been dead if you didn’t spend all of it crying about how terrible this site is, and AFKing at EoD then complaining about a shitty boxerfred lynch
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 28 2018 03:17 GMT
#1243
Glad to see you decide to be civil Conversion.

In fairness to Gemma, the bitching only started this phase. Both heads of the hydra were putting a fair bit of effort into the game D1.




Wondering if Mocsta will notice his mistake, and in the meantime if reading comprehension is this big an issue or if I'm being pandered too.

I can take that responsibility.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 28 2018 03:21 GMT
#1244
On June 28 2018 08:38 Regfan wrote:
HF, Cake, Rayn, Moscta and Calix are still all town, if you fuckwits can learn to come and work together this games still winnable.

Hunt inside Vivax, Shockey, TT, GSM, Conversion and Koshi.

TT did vote to save himself and at :59, timing that makes more sense for mafia to do it where there's minimal time for people to react to the vote and 5he way the EOD played out there's some worlds that he fits inside of as mafia, Vivax-TT is 100% a world people need to entertain and look inside of tomorrow.

There's probably only ever 1 in Shockey/Vivax which is why Shockeys flip would have helped immensely but if you hit scum in these two would suggest moving the other to the side for a bit.

Vivax / TT + 1 of Koshi/TSM sort of fits a few things.

Okay you've got my thoughts albeit I've missed a lot of content from pages 30 to 50, now can feel better about leaving and never coming back to this game again.

Oh and everyone that actually voted Boxer can go fuck themselves.

Outtahere

-R

Shockeyy is not mafia tbh.
table for two on a tv tray
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 28 2018 03:22 GMT
#1245
On June 28 2018 12:05 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 11:55 CopCake wrote:
I feel kinda mad yeah, I can understand the feeling but to be like “all of you suck” doesnt work because I dont think we have been bad to reg, I think HF called Gemma out for that.

What I have problems it to clear Calix and TT.

Calix wanted to kill an AFK, she said so when I asked her which were her mafia reads and it seems she had problems to lynch boxfred? I mean maybe is because shotkeys? Was her mafia read but I do think that if she felt firmly that shotkey was mafia she would try to convince people and give reasons why he is mafia and TT isnt.

I can read through the dialogue with you/Calix if you would like, but my opinions right now are based on what you are stating.

If calix is mafia, and said, lets kill an AFK.. then why hesistate against boxerfred? I dont see the benefit to drop this read AND then campaign to save tictock.
If anything, thats pretty townie, instead of voting your possible scum read, protect your biggest town read.
Even from a percentage point of view, its more likely to be right on a townread, then a scum read, no?

I do think that Calix play is indicative of someone still recovering from early cases and votes against her.
In particular, the saving townread thing I mentioned just above.

As for TT, I will have to filter dive to understand what your specific issues with his play are.
I can do this when I get back from KFC if you like.



I have problems with this, I personally would go to lynch my mafia read and go to try to make others follow me, not make others follow me (or in this case with the help of HF) to help to vote for an AFK. If she wouldnt hesitated then I understand because that was her first position but when the time came and she got a gun to shot... she was like “Oh no I am doing this to save TT”

It is like she hesitated because she knew boxerfred was town? Or her frustation came because shotkey wasnt being lynched?

Either way I would have learned MORE if TT or even Shitjey would have been lynched, now I am here; stuck with ny same reads, confused because I see a lot of change of hearts.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 28 2018 03:23 GMT
#1246
Shotkey*

Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 28 2018 03:25 GMT
#1247
I’m not civil to people who trash on an entire community

To answer your question (I think it’s in my filter somewhere, or at least a part of it), I could not see where town!TT would not vote his scumread to get Shockeyy off the island. Calix was one of my stronger townreads, so once she kept saying reconsider I was pretty much arguing with myself on the chances of you vs Shockeyy flipping mafia. Also didn’t really want to boxerfred lynch, and ended up making a decision too late (was pretty much thinking up until deadline and just made the decision to switch off). I don’t think it’s any alignment indication on the switch alone— it’s a pretty bad play regardless of town/scum angle, but that’s just my opinion
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 28 2018 03:26 GMT
#1248
I have problems with TT changing his vote super super suñer literal last minute
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
June 28 2018 03:30 GMT
#1249
On June 28 2018 12:17 Tictock wrote:
Wondering if Mocsta will notice his mistake, and in the meantime if reading comprehension is this big an issue or if I'm being pandered too.
That you werent bagging rayn?

I was giving my take on it, not going +1

Other than that, not sure what you could be referring to.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 28 2018 03:31 GMT
#1250
On June 28 2018 11:45 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 11:43 Mocsta wrote:
On June 28 2018 11:36 CopCake wrote:
My feedback is that I am not seeing raynmafia! In this game.

Last time he was mafia it was a rsoultin game, the drawing game in which I had a very difficult time with HF and many others (I bet you are not surprised) and I could feel rayn mafia but I wasnt 100% sure, Rayn made this huge “OMG I feel so insulted brb gonna be modkilled” and the host “cleared him” and HF also did so the rest of the game he afk’d forever and in this game he hasnt done that.

In fact, he took the time to read my other games, he was probably not so sure about me because if I remember correctly I jumped on him and told him the whole meme case was dumb since it was a meme, deffended TT, etc (Wow I sheep rayn too much!) until he noticed that I had a meta (Which I never realized) and got a FACT to prove all of YOu that I am town. I never saw this as a pocketing because if he wanted to pocket me he would be all super buddy buddy but no, he was firm and like neutral towards me.

He then did a case for Calix, he has been scumhunting and putting effort, his most “eh” post is when I said the only way he could be mafia is if Calix is town but that is it.
Thanks,

I'm glad that you mentioned the AFK, cos he did the same thing last time i played scum with him too. Popped in every so and so, and just AFK rest of cycle. He may have mentioned at one point it related to fatigue from rolling scum multiple times in a row, but meh, the impression lasted with me. (a bit like tictock).

I suppose my only comment to above is that I dont know how much it means for him to read your other games BECAUSE of his personal connection with you. As mafia, he may subconsciously feel pressure to put some "science" behind the read; instead of saying, "gut feel". But i dont view this strongly, as it could equally apply to town not wanting to be "bamboozled". Also the way he injected into the thread I think was townish. So meh,.


What do you make of the sudden change in the hydra?
I assume you know at least of them? Is this behaviour plausible?
Like, as scum, why would you kick up a hissy fit if you just got a mislynch on a lurker?


I like regfan’s posts.

I think Gemma overeacts a lot.

Regfan is a fucking pussy.
table for two on a tv tray
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
June 28 2018 03:32 GMT
#1251
On June 28 2018 12:23 CopCake wrote:
Shotkey*


lol

shock-e

shot=key is diode
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 28 2018 03:32 GMT
#1252
I am npt sure why i even asked him to play. I probably thought he could actually handle a game where people argue with him.
table for two on a tv tray
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
June 28 2018 03:35 GMT
#1253
On June 28 2018 12:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am npt sure why i even asked him to play. I probably thought he could actually handle a game where people argue with him.
dude, mental health is a real thing

if you have a problem with him as a person, take it out of the game please.

this is needless regardless of alignment.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 28 2018 03:36 GMT
#1254
On June 28 2018 12:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 11:45 CopCake wrote:
On June 28 2018 11:43 Mocsta wrote:
On June 28 2018 11:36 CopCake wrote:
My feedback is that I am not seeing raynmafia! In this game.

Last time he was mafia it was a rsoultin game, the drawing game in which I had a very difficult time with HF and many others (I bet you are not surprised) and I could feel rayn mafia but I wasnt 100% sure, Rayn made this huge “OMG I feel so insulted brb gonna be modkilled” and the host “cleared him” and HF also did so the rest of the game he afk’d forever and in this game he hasnt done that.

In fact, he took the time to read my other games, he was probably not so sure about me because if I remember correctly I jumped on him and told him the whole meme case was dumb since it was a meme, deffended TT, etc (Wow I sheep rayn too much!) until he noticed that I had a meta (Which I never realized) and got a FACT to prove all of YOu that I am town. I never saw this as a pocketing because if he wanted to pocket me he would be all super buddy buddy but no, he was firm and like neutral towards me.

He then did a case for Calix, he has been scumhunting and putting effort, his most “eh” post is when I said the only way he could be mafia is if Calix is town but that is it.
Thanks,

I'm glad that you mentioned the AFK, cos he did the same thing last time i played scum with him too. Popped in every so and so, and just AFK rest of cycle. He may have mentioned at one point it related to fatigue from rolling scum multiple times in a row, but meh, the impression lasted with me. (a bit like tictock).

I suppose my only comment to above is that I dont know how much it means for him to read your other games BECAUSE of his personal connection with you. As mafia, he may subconsciously feel pressure to put some "science" behind the read; instead of saying, "gut feel". But i dont view this strongly, as it could equally apply to town not wanting to be "bamboozled". Also the way he injected into the thread I think was townish. So meh,.


What do you make of the sudden change in the hydra?
I assume you know at least of them? Is this behaviour plausible?
Like, as scum, why would you kick up a hissy fit if you just got a mislynch on a lurker?


I like regfan’s posts.

I think Gemma overeacts a lot.

Regfan is a fucking pussy.


Dont look at it that way, both of you are friends.

The “omg you are making regfan cry” etc was super tasteless and uncalled for tho.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 28 2018 03:37 GMT
#1255
He himself proved he is town by bs shit.
table for two on a tv tray
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
June 28 2018 03:37 GMT
#1256
On June 28 2018 12:22 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 12:05 Mocsta wrote:
On June 28 2018 11:55 CopCake wrote:
I feel kinda mad yeah, I can understand the feeling but to be like “all of you suck” doesnt work because I dont think we have been bad to reg, I think HF called Gemma out for that.

What I have problems it to clear Calix and TT.

Calix wanted to kill an AFK, she said so when I asked her which were her mafia reads and it seems she had problems to lynch boxfred? I mean maybe is because shotkeys? Was her mafia read but I do think that if she felt firmly that shotkey was mafia she would try to convince people and give reasons why he is mafia and TT isnt.

I can read through the dialogue with you/Calix if you would like, but my opinions right now are based on what you are stating.

If calix is mafia, and said, lets kill an AFK.. then why hesistate against boxerfred? I dont see the benefit to drop this read AND then campaign to save tictock.
If anything, thats pretty townie, instead of voting your possible scum read, protect your biggest town read.
Even from a percentage point of view, its more likely to be right on a townread, then a scum read, no?

I do think that Calix play is indicative of someone still recovering from early cases and votes against her.
In particular, the saving townread thing I mentioned just above.

As for TT, I will have to filter dive to understand what your specific issues with his play are.
I can do this when I get back from KFC if you like.



I have problems with this, I personally would go to lynch my mafia read and go to try to make others follow me, not make others follow me (or in this case with the help of HF) to help to vote for an AFK. If she wouldnt hesitated then I understand because that was her first position but when the time came and she got a gun to shot... she was like “Oh no I am doing this to save TT”

It is like she hesitated because she knew boxerfred was town? Or her frustation came because shotkey wasnt being lynched?

Either way I would have learned MORE if TT or even Shitjey would have been lynched, now I am here; stuck with ny same reads, confused because I see a lot of change of hearts.
in your eyes, why would mafia hesitate to vote a town boxerfred? especialy, if she already showed she was willing to vote an afk?

mafia cant just keep voting mafia

as for shotkey, im not sure, i will have to filter dive that. can do once i finished with the wicked wings.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
June 28 2018 03:38 GMT
#1257
On June 28 2018 12:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He himself proved he is town by bs shit.
if you r town.. i don get y this is bad....


CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 28 2018 03:40 GMT
#1258
On June 28 2018 12:37 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 12:22 CopCake wrote:
On June 28 2018 12:05 Mocsta wrote:
On June 28 2018 11:55 CopCake wrote:
I feel kinda mad yeah, I can understand the feeling but to be like “all of you suck” doesnt work because I dont think we have been bad to reg, I think HF called Gemma out for that.

What I have problems it to clear Calix and TT.

Calix wanted to kill an AFK, she said so when I asked her which were her mafia reads and it seems she had problems to lynch boxfred? I mean maybe is because shotkeys? Was her mafia read but I do think that if she felt firmly that shotkey was mafia she would try to convince people and give reasons why he is mafia and TT isnt.

I can read through the dialogue with you/Calix if you would like, but my opinions right now are based on what you are stating.

If calix is mafia, and said, lets kill an AFK.. then why hesistate against boxerfred? I dont see the benefit to drop this read AND then campaign to save tictock.
If anything, thats pretty townie, instead of voting your possible scum read, protect your biggest town read.
Even from a percentage point of view, its more likely to be right on a townread, then a scum read, no?

I do think that Calix play is indicative of someone still recovering from early cases and votes against her.
In particular, the saving townread thing I mentioned just above.

As for TT, I will have to filter dive to understand what your specific issues with his play are.
I can do this when I get back from KFC if you like.



I have problems with this, I personally would go to lynch my mafia read and go to try to make others follow me, not make others follow me (or in this case with the help of HF) to help to vote for an AFK. If she wouldnt hesitated then I understand because that was her first position but when the time came and she got a gun to shot... she was like “Oh no I am doing this to save TT”

It is like she hesitated because she knew boxerfred was town? Or her frustation came because shotkey wasnt being lynched?

Either way I would have learned MORE if TT or even Shitjey would have been lynched, now I am here; stuck with ny same reads, confused because I see a lot of change of hearts.
in your eyes, why would mafia hesitate to vote a town boxerfred? especialy, if she already showed she was willing to vote an afk?

mafia cant just keep voting mafia

as for shotkey, im not sure, i will have to filter dive that. can do once i finished with the wicked wings.


The end comes with an “omg i am sorry to vote for you boxerfred” the leading wagon was TT by faaaaaaaar
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 28 2018 03:40 GMT
#1259
On June 28 2018 12:25 Conversion wrote:
I’m not civil to people who trash on an entire community

To answer your question (I think it’s in my filter somewhere, or at least a part of it), I could not see where town!TT would not vote his scumread to get Shockeyy off the island. Calix was one of my stronger townreads, so once she kept saying reconsider I was pretty much arguing with myself on the chances of you vs Shockeyy flipping mafia. Also didn’t really want to boxerfred lynch, and ended up making a decision too late (was pretty much thinking up until deadline and just made the decision to switch off). I don’t think it’s any alignment indication on the switch alone— it’s a pretty bad play regardless of town/scum angle, but that’s just my opinion


So, you didn't understand why I would not switch back to Shokey, but thought both of us could be mafia. So you had to have concluded that we were mafia together and I was wanting to save my teammate then correct?

The boxer thing I was in total agreence about if you noticed.



On June 28 2018 12:26 CopCake wrote:
I have problems with TT changing his vote super super suñer literal last minute


Care to elaborate?



On June 28 2018 12:30 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 12:17 Tictock wrote:
Wondering if Mocsta will notice his mistake, and in the meantime if reading comprehension is this big an issue or if I'm being pandered too.
That you werent bagging rayn?

I was giving my take on it, not going +1

Other than that, not sure what you could be referring to.


You somehow got reg and conversion totally confused, not sure how you made that mistake unless you only glanced at my post without reading it.
I can take that responsibility.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 28 2018 03:41 GMT
#1260
On June 28 2018 12:38 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 12:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He himself proved he is town by bs shit.
if you r town.. i don get y this is bad....




I am gonna assume rayn is mad because gemma used a super cheap appeal to emotion card that made him feel bad flr no reason.

Rayn is a very sweet person and cares for his friends. That is why he invited refgan and slenderman here.
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