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On June 28 2018 09:17 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 01:50 Regfan wrote:I'm going to bed. Regfan will hopefully be up before deadline to check in quickly and move our vote if it needs moving. Please don't lynch Calix. Just quickly, the main thing I mentioned to Regfan re: TT when he asked me to sell him on that scumread was the way that his scumreads progressed, his worlds started to become noticeably incongruent around the time he started backing off Calix. I also don't really like the way he's been catching up recently, making more personal type appeal posts to people that don't actually have anything to do with his reads or solving the game. He's probably my strongest scumread even if I don't want to lynch him today (for reasons I already went over). Would really like to see more from him and be able to interact with him real-time some to solidify my read there. We both think the way Vivax treated TT in #539 was slimy, he's the kind of player that I know I will be able to get a solid read on at some point in the game based on some reaction from him or something impulsive he does in the moment somewhere, and there are certain things from him tonally that make me shy away from super scumreading him, but he hasn't done anything to make me really want to pull him out of the lynch pool today. I only weakly scumread him and feel meh about lynching him but he's not a bad lynch. Shock's thread entrance was really icky and I dislike the things that he has been focusing on. I don't think his meta self-defense means anything for his alignment and I don't really like the way he's been making big-ish posts at the end of the dayphase here but not really interacting with anyone about reads or show me that he's actively solving the game in a meaningful way. Feel mildly annoyed that people don't want to lynch him but I don't feel strongly enough about killing him to force the issue. Koshi just hasn't done anything except sheep rayn and when I think there's a pretty high chance of at least 1 mafia in the inactives I can find exactly 0 reasons not to lynch him other than how little information it will give us. Lynch preference is Shock>Koshi>Vivax, would vote in Conversion/TT to secure a lynch that isn't Calix. -G I know this is a post from Gemma but notice how it says here "we both think". This clearly means they talked or "talked" about vivax's treatment of ticktock and found it slimy. Reg hadn't been to the thread for ages so this should be about the last thing he remembers them talking about but it is never a factor.
Are you fucking kidding me.
-G
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So my thread presence is probably shit, is my take away here.
But I counter that my filter is probably Immaculate!
As for Toxicity, I'll tone down any preaching, but despite being human I do think it is possible to at least make the effort to be respectful or at least acknowledge when you are less than that and work to be better. It's when you have no self awareness but still complain that I'm actually bothered.
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And nah, TT you suddenly wanted her alive because “she is a smart player like HF” so idk.
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Oh regfan is here, might lurk.
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On June 28 2018 10:39 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 10:37 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 10:24 Calix wrote:On June 28 2018 10:15 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 09:16 CopCake wrote:
Nah, I am gonna ask to get mod killed or replaced.
I think I am on my right since I got insulted several times during this game and I took everything cold hearted but this is just enough.
Not smart talk, just a bunch of hyenas screaming with no content. It's hard to talk to you when you keep calling me scum just because I switched my read on Calix and defended her. You didn't have an issue with that stance when we first talked about it, but now it's all that matter's to you, AND you wont even bother to check that it wasn't "out of nowhere" What do you mean with CopCake "not having an issue with that stance"? It looks like she called you out right away for that even if she didn't call you mafia for it until later. I don't see how that's notable. Her lack of fact-checking is a bit of a piss-take though, can agree ^^ Maybe I wasn't in the thread long enough as I was falling asleep around that time, but I recall having a back and forth with her and her responses were on the order of "are you two dating" "then why should I care" "oh you see her as a smart player, I see". Never anything about "why the sudden switch?" She asked "why do you suddenly defend Calix" first. Also don't lie, we are totally dating.
I thought we were still in the "lying about it to ourselves" phase 
And didn't I respond to Cake that I was starting to see more towny things, and felt like you were a bad D1 lynch even if i had doubts, thus wanted to stear people away from lynching you?
I'm really starting to wonder if maybe I'm just imagining posting some stuff.
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This site is completely unbearable. I'm glad I got to roll a town hydra with Regfan but I sincerely regret ever stepping foot in this place.
Bye, enjoy whatever the fuck this game is.
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On June 28 2018 10:42 CopCake wrote:
And nah, TT you suddenly wanted her alive because “she is a smart player like HF” so idk.
Cake, I called Calix mafia early on, and stuck with that read for a little while. I never tried to vote her, case her, or anything like that.
I made an early read, talked about it, then as more posts came in began re-evaluating. I was totally upfront with you at the time that I made those "appeal to emotion" posts I did.
I was blatantly and openly trying to convince someone I thought was town, that the lynch they were advocating was not a good one. For this you have obsitently called me mafia.
Now I am willing to take HF's criticism that my posting style is probably to blame as it leaves me detached from the current happenings as I try to catchup. However my entire play this game, if you would be so kind as to evaluate it, has been to be as open as possible and try to suggest what I feel is the best course of action for town.
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On June 28 2018 10:46 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 10:39 Calix wrote:On June 28 2018 10:37 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 10:24 Calix wrote:On June 28 2018 10:15 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 09:16 CopCake wrote:
Nah, I am gonna ask to get mod killed or replaced.
I think I am on my right since I got insulted several times during this game and I took everything cold hearted but this is just enough.
Not smart talk, just a bunch of hyenas screaming with no content. It's hard to talk to you when you keep calling me scum just because I switched my read on Calix and defended her. You didn't have an issue with that stance when we first talked about it, but now it's all that matter's to you, AND you wont even bother to check that it wasn't "out of nowhere" What do you mean with CopCake "not having an issue with that stance"? It looks like she called you out right away for that even if she didn't call you mafia for it until later. I don't see how that's notable. Her lack of fact-checking is a bit of a piss-take though, can agree ^^ Maybe I wasn't in the thread long enough as I was falling asleep around that time, but I recall having a back and forth with her and her responses were on the order of "are you two dating" "then why should I care" "oh you see her as a smart player, I see". Never anything about "why the sudden switch?" She asked "why do you suddenly defend Calix" first. Also don't lie, we are totally dating. I thought we were still in the "lying about it to ourselves" phase And didn't I respond to Cake that I was starting to see more towny things, and felt like you were a bad D1 lynch even if i had doubts, thus wanted to stear people away from lynching you? I'm really starting to wonder if maybe I'm just imagining posting some stuff.
Nah, out and proud now 
I recall you making that post.
She's done that a lot with the "ignoring posts from people" thing though. I might actually have to check past games and see if this is something she does a lot. I don't want to give her a pass for weird posts or logic but I'm not sure how much of it is AI. Like some of the stuff she says makes no sense to me but it also isn't stuff that pushes mafia agenda very well if at all.
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On June 28 2018 10:46 Regfan wrote:
This site is completely unbearable. I'm glad I got to roll a town hydra with Regfan but I sincerely regret ever stepping foot in this place.
Bye, enjoy whatever the fuck this game is.
While a decent part of me agrees here, I also feel like you should either just get out or try to make it a better place, at least while you are here. Otherwise you become toxic.
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@ Calix
Yea I actually think it is a language barrier or something. I've only played a few times with Cake but she often makes posts that are very hard to follow and sometimes completely misses the mark in what someone is saying. I could actually pull up an example I noticed from this game if you like.
My observation is that Cake tends to hide behind this confusion when mafia, but tries to be open and share her thoughts as town.
As much as I've struggled with her the past day, I still think she is most likely town here.
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On June 28 2018 10:52 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 10:42 CopCake wrote:
And nah, TT you suddenly wanted her alive because “she is a smart player like HF” so idk. Cake, I called Calix mafia early on, and stuck with that read for a little while. I never tried to vote her, case her, or anything like that. I made an early read, talked about it, then as more posts came in began re-evaluating. I was totally upfront with you at the time that I made those "appeal to emotion" posts I did. I was blatantly and openly trying to convince someone I thought was town, that the lynch they were advocating was not a good one. For this you have obsitently called me mafia. Now I am willing to take HF's criticism that my posting style is probably to blame as it leaves me detached from the current happenings as I try to catchup. However my entire play this game, if you would be so kind as to evaluate it, has been to be as open as possible and try to suggest what I feel is the best course of action for town.
You called me a sheep, me who was the first person who jumped to deffend you against HF 😑
Maybe I am a super bad player as Calix say but to ME:
- You cant change reads super easily, you pushed someone and suddenly you want to change? Something like what Mocca did. I agreed with you that Mocca’s reads were SUPER BAD but if something got me more was your siper way to deffend Calix and your excuse was “because she is a good player like HF”
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On June 28 2018 11:00 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 10:52 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 10:42 CopCake wrote:
And nah, TT you suddenly wanted her alive because “she is a smart player like HF” so idk. Cake, I called Calix mafia early on, and stuck with that read for a little while. I never tried to vote her, case her, or anything like that. I made an early read, talked about it, then as more posts came in began re-evaluating. I was totally upfront with you at the time that I made those "appeal to emotion" posts I did. I was blatantly and openly trying to convince someone I thought was town, that the lynch they were advocating was not a good one. For this you have obsitently called me mafia. Now I am willing to take HF's criticism that my posting style is probably to blame as it leaves me detached from the current happenings as I try to catchup. However my entire play this game, if you would be so kind as to evaluate it, has been to be as open as possible and try to suggest what I feel is the best course of action for town. You called me a sheep, me who was the first person who jumped to deffend you against HF 😑 Maybe I am a super bad player as Calix say but to ME: - You cant change reads super easily, you pushed someone and suddenly you want to change? Something like what Mocca did. I agreed with you that Mocca’s reads were SUPER BAD but if something got me more was your siper way to deffend Calix and your excuse was “because she is a good player like HF”
I don't think you're "super bad" just that some of your arguments were bad. That's not attacking you personally.
TT's making the argument that since I am a Good Player [TM] that leaving me alive on D1 is better because I am more likely to show that I am town on future days. Therefore that made me a poor lynch candidate for D1.
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Ok I need to get some food but I'm caught up and will try to be around tonight (and may even stay caught up ).
Right now I feel pretty good about HF being town, Calix is still solid town, Vivax very likely town, and Mocsta is probably town.
I am willing to work with conversion if he can work with me, him being scum hasn't quite made sense in my mind even though OMGUS sometimes makes me believe it. Similarly with Cake.
Reg needs a revisit after that post HF and I started picking at.
I will strongly oppose a slender lynch tomorrow, because we can't really afford to spend another lynch on a coinflip that gives no info. While I'd have preferred a Shokey lynch, tbh BF wasn't a BAD lynch at least not for D1.
If Koshi keeps what he has been doing up I am ok with him for another phase, but I would prefer it if he could step it up just another notch.
I am coming after anyone not mentioned in this post.
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You guys should take a break, breathe deep and read the content before firing.
CopCake is saying I am super bad.. not yo Calix.
No need to wring each others necks. I think we are all town here.
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Idk what gave you guys the right to be like “OMG I am toen leader everyone should follow me” status after that flip and the decisions taken.
Most of the reactions were “welp” except for mine and reg’s.
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On June 28 2018 11:00 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 10:52 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2018 10:42 CopCake wrote:
And nah, TT you suddenly wanted her alive because “she is a smart player like HF” so idk. Cake, I called Calix mafia early on, and stuck with that read for a little while. I never tried to vote her, case her, or anything like that. I made an early read, talked about it, then as more posts came in began re-evaluating. I was totally upfront with you at the time that I made those "appeal to emotion" posts I did. I was blatantly and openly trying to convince someone I thought was town, that the lynch they were advocating was not a good one. For this you have obsitently called me mafia. Now I am willing to take HF's criticism that my posting style is probably to blame as it leaves me detached from the current happenings as I try to catchup. However my entire play this game, if you would be so kind as to evaluate it, has been to be as open as possible and try to suggest what I feel is the best course of action for town. You called me a sheep, me who was the first person who jumped to deffend you against HF 😑 Maybe I am a super bad player as Calix say but to ME: - You cant change reads super easily, you pushed someone and suddenly you want to change? Something like what Mocca did. I agreed with you that Mocca’s reads were SUPER BAD but if something got me more was your siper way to deffend Calix and your excuse was “because she is a good player like HF”
You are right, I was originally reacting to the multiple posts you made where you said something like "I can only see Calix as town if rayn is mafia" and were seeming to be generally unwilling to change your stance.
In the more resent post I was trying to get through to you a bit more, but am probably still just being a bit of an ass.
And so we can get past this "read switch on Calix" thing, can we agree that either I legitemetly have had a change of heart about Calix over the course of the phase as town, or have shown face and exposed a partner as mafia?
We now have 72 hours before the next lynch, and will get a bit more info in 24 hours. Can you at least admit that objectively the town scenario for myself is a bit more likely than the mafia one, and try to drop this till day phase? It will really help me not wanting to scumread you every few posts.
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Hi CopCake,
Not sure about anyone trying to be town leader,
but I am curious if you have updated thoughts on Rayn, in particular given there are several leaning scum on him.
Apologies if you have addressed some of this already.
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On June 28 2018 11:10 Mocsta wrote:
You guys should take a break, breathe deep and read the content before firing.
CopCake is saying I am super bad.. not yo Calix.
No need to wring each others necks. I think we are all town here.
You may be right, but I'm also all for figuring out a good way of actually getting everyone on that page.
It doesn't work to well to say "hey you are all town, don't worry about it" when half the people are still muttering under their breath.
However yea, breaks are good.
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On June 28 2018 11:20 Mocsta wrote:
Hi CopCake,
Not sure about anyone trying to be town leader,
but I am curious if you have updated thoughts on Rayn, in particular given there are several leaning scum on him.
Apologies if you have addressed some of this already.
What makes rayn mafia? Explain to me on a case because last I remember me and you had the same reads and suddenly in 5 min you changed your mind.
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On June 28 2018 11:22 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 11:10 Mocsta wrote:
You guys should take a break, breathe deep and read the content before firing.
CopCake is saying I am super bad.. not yo Calix.
No need to wring each others necks. I think we are all town here. You may be right, but I'm also all for figuring out a good way of actually getting everyone on that page. It doesn't work to well to say "hey you are all town, don't worry about it" when half the people are still muttering under their breath. However yea, breaks are good. Yeah I get that, but honestly, I kinda skimmed past the past 2-3 pages cos it looks like people yelling at each other. Perhaps there is content there but I am not motivated to read through it...
I cant imagine I am the only one feeling that.
Any thoughts about Vivax? I noticed that in HF list he put Vivax as leaning town.
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