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On June 28 2018 09:16 CopCake wrote: Nah, I am gonna ask to get mod killed or replaced.
I think I am on my right since I got insulted several times during this game and I took everything cold hearted but this is just enough.
Not smart talk, just a bunch of hyenas screaming with no content.
?? I just posted a shit tonne of content about this and didn't scream about anything
The only one remotely doing anything hyena-y is calix and she's your mafia read and it would be her job to tilt you
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On June 28 2018 07:59 Conversion wrote: no, I am switching onto shockeyy. switching to BF is so trash
I'm going to note that Conversion's swap only occurred when Boxer was already the lynch, and his swap made no difference.
Had he switched his vote off me sooner Shokey would have very likely been the lynch.
This suggests a high likelyhood of them being on a team imo.
Worth noting that this was Conversion's most relevant post regarding Shokey prior to this.
On June 28 2018 02:26 Conversion wrote:@Calix you can just CTRL+F Shock here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/528031-heroes-of-the-storm-mafia?user=Conversion&view=allbut I aggregated some things. I think I just put him on a low-key read but don't dwell on because I tried way too hard to read into him in the aforementioned game and was just straight up wrong. + Show Spoiler +On November 01 2017 11:32 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 11:27 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 11:24 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 11:10 Conversion wrote:On November 01 2017 11:09 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 10:55 Tictock wrote:And I'm caught up. I dislike Shokey calling out people who haven't posted yet this early in the game. Also people should talk about this: What do you make of HF voting Damer, the pressuring you for also thinking Damer might be mafia? HF wasn't pressuring conv for thinking damer might be mafia. He pressured him because of the reasons he gave for disliking him weren't good. and you haven't followed up with anything, either. What's your opinion on the thread so far? Am I scummy for acting similarly to my last game? What about Shockey? Is he clear lynch bait, or is he mafia? What's your opinion on the interactions between me, rux, and HF? What's your opinion on TicTock's string of posts, and the conclusion he comes from it? true Well I think your reasoning for disliking damerion seemed pretty forced. Like if you had to think of something because you got asked. To the other things: If I don't say anything about other things it usally means I have no opinon on them. I'm newbie so it is still hard for me to figure out how I interpret posts and I prefer to wait until more is said before I give hasty reads I change anyways. So yes you are scummy. Fair. Hope that changes over the course of the game, b/c I'm not scum but I can see where you're coming from I guess. Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 07:44 ShoCkeyy wrote: lol at this early game posting. Is this the new meta? To just claim something and then hope no one notices you lied? I don't really like this entrance, and I don't really like his last post of "let's just wait for AFKers to come in." you shouldn't be sitting around twiddling your thumbs and waiting for people to not be AFK. it's awful behavior, and there was more than enough content to push some buttons/ask questions and agendas no bueno On November 01 2017 11:41 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 11:39 ShoCkeyy wrote:I mean the game just started, there is nothing to really post about other than Conversion getting triggered about being "grilled"... I also posted the list because I mentioned it's too early to even try to vote because these "list" haven't posted yet. I haven't really played with any of you other than Holy, Damred, Vivax, and what may be Oatsmaster (but I don't recall). So I'm still just poking around and seeing what comes out of what. I don't mind taking the fall for now until some one slips, cause it's what I usually do. So far those who are "suspicious" of me, one of them have a good chance at being scum  I just pointed your entrance out b/c it's like Tictock randomly de-towning me in his list for not seeing obvious joke posts.. except you applied that to a broader audience instead of just me. Seemed like a lazy, forced comment about a bunch of fluff that came out within the first hour of the game On November 02 2017 01:14 Conversion wrote: I'm voting ShoCkeyy until he stops dodging me for whatever reason. On November 02 2017 07:03 Conversion wrote: someone explain to me why shockey is bad town instead of scum for his leaps in logic and deflecting shit back onto me because I'm not seeing it and he should be lynched because he is scum On November 02 2017 07:34 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 07:23 ShoCkeyy wrote: I chose to dodge it, so there's my reason. I don't need to deal with you anymore but you insist, I've caught you messing up with your own posts, I've already proven that my reading comprehension isn't off, and you're easily triggered. I rather deal with others at this point.
And you're not being any help. Brb my sun here. you’re not dealing with anyone. you come up when someone mentions you then disappear again your behavior is 100% clear as day scum. try harder On November 03 2017 06:30 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2017 06:28 Vivax wrote: Well my vote stands and I explained why I'm not going to vote TT.
I'm not feeling a Ruxxar lynch either atm.
Shockey is simply the best lynch and I'm not going to do anything besides pointing to today's arguments and voting him for the rest of the game.
As I said, lynch shockey or feed. I mirror this part 1000%
Which is kinda just a convoluted null read via meta... or a meta read with no conclusion which is kinda worse.
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On June 28 2018 09:22 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 07:59 Conversion wrote: no, I am switching onto shockeyy. switching to BF is so trash I'm going to note that Conversion's swap only occurred when Boxer was already the lynch, and his swap made no difference. Had he switched his vote off me sooner Shokey would have very likely been the lynch. This suggests a high likelyhood of them being on a team imo. Worth noting that this was Conversion's most relevant post regarding Shokey prior to this. Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 02:26 Conversion wrote:@Calix you can just CTRL+F Shock here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/528031-heroes-of-the-storm-mafia?user=Conversion&view=allbut I aggregated some things. I think I just put him on a low-key read but don't dwell on because I tried way too hard to read into him in the aforementioned game and was just straight up wrong. + Show Spoiler +On November 01 2017 11:32 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 11:27 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 11:24 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 11:10 Conversion wrote:On November 01 2017 11:09 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 10:55 Tictock wrote:And I'm caught up. I dislike Shokey calling out people who haven't posted yet this early in the game. Also people should talk about this: What do you make of HF voting Damer, the pressuring you for also thinking Damer might be mafia? HF wasn't pressuring conv for thinking damer might be mafia. He pressured him because of the reasons he gave for disliking him weren't good. and you haven't followed up with anything, either. What's your opinion on the thread so far? Am I scummy for acting similarly to my last game? What about Shockey? Is he clear lynch bait, or is he mafia? What's your opinion on the interactions between me, rux, and HF? What's your opinion on TicTock's string of posts, and the conclusion he comes from it? true Well I think your reasoning for disliking damerion seemed pretty forced. Like if you had to think of something because you got asked. To the other things: If I don't say anything about other things it usally means I have no opinon on them. I'm newbie so it is still hard for me to figure out how I interpret posts and I prefer to wait until more is said before I give hasty reads I change anyways. So yes you are scummy. Fair. Hope that changes over the course of the game, b/c I'm not scum but I can see where you're coming from I guess. Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 07:44 ShoCkeyy wrote: lol at this early game posting. Is this the new meta? To just claim something and then hope no one notices you lied? I don't really like this entrance, and I don't really like his last post of "let's just wait for AFKers to come in." you shouldn't be sitting around twiddling your thumbs and waiting for people to not be AFK. it's awful behavior, and there was more than enough content to push some buttons/ask questions and agendas no bueno On November 01 2017 11:41 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 11:39 ShoCkeyy wrote:I mean the game just started, there is nothing to really post about other than Conversion getting triggered about being "grilled"... I also posted the list because I mentioned it's too early to even try to vote because these "list" haven't posted yet. I haven't really played with any of you other than Holy, Damred, Vivax, and what may be Oatsmaster (but I don't recall). So I'm still just poking around and seeing what comes out of what. I don't mind taking the fall for now until some one slips, cause it's what I usually do. So far those who are "suspicious" of me, one of them have a good chance at being scum  I just pointed your entrance out b/c it's like Tictock randomly de-towning me in his list for not seeing obvious joke posts.. except you applied that to a broader audience instead of just me. Seemed like a lazy, forced comment about a bunch of fluff that came out within the first hour of the game On November 02 2017 01:14 Conversion wrote: I'm voting ShoCkeyy until he stops dodging me for whatever reason. On November 02 2017 07:03 Conversion wrote: someone explain to me why shockey is bad town instead of scum for his leaps in logic and deflecting shit back onto me because I'm not seeing it and he should be lynched because he is scum On November 02 2017 07:34 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 07:23 ShoCkeyy wrote: I chose to dodge it, so there's my reason. I don't need to deal with you anymore but you insist, I've caught you messing up with your own posts, I've already proven that my reading comprehension isn't off, and you're easily triggered. I rather deal with others at this point.
And you're not being any help. Brb my sun here. you’re not dealing with anyone. you come up when someone mentions you then disappear again your behavior is 100% clear as day scum. try harder On November 03 2017 06:30 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2017 06:28 Vivax wrote: Well my vote stands and I explained why I'm not going to vote TT.
I'm not feeling a Ruxxar lynch either atm.
Shockey is simply the best lynch and I'm not going to do anything besides pointing to today's arguments and voting him for the rest of the game.
As I said, lynch shockey or feed. I mirror this part 1000% Which is kinda just a convoluted null read via meta... or a meta read with no conclusion which is kinda worse.
Why would I risk looking worse by switching instead of just staying on you if boxerfred was the lynch?
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On June 28 2018 09:22 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 07:59 Conversion wrote: no, I am switching onto shockeyy. switching to BF is so trash I'm going to note that Conversion's swap only occurred when Boxer was already the lynch, and his swap made no difference. Had he switched his vote off me sooner Shokey would have very likely been the lynch. This suggests a high likelyhood of them being on a team imo. Worth noting that this was Conversion's most relevant post regarding Shokey prior to this. Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 02:26 Conversion wrote:@Calix you can just CTRL+F Shock here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/528031-heroes-of-the-storm-mafia?user=Conversion&view=allbut I aggregated some things. I think I just put him on a low-key read but don't dwell on because I tried way too hard to read into him in the aforementioned game and was just straight up wrong. + Show Spoiler +On November 01 2017 11:32 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 11:27 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 11:24 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 11:10 Conversion wrote:On November 01 2017 11:09 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 10:55 Tictock wrote:And I'm caught up. I dislike Shokey calling out people who haven't posted yet this early in the game. Also people should talk about this: What do you make of HF voting Damer, the pressuring you for also thinking Damer might be mafia? HF wasn't pressuring conv for thinking damer might be mafia. He pressured him because of the reasons he gave for disliking him weren't good. and you haven't followed up with anything, either. What's your opinion on the thread so far? Am I scummy for acting similarly to my last game? What about Shockey? Is he clear lynch bait, or is he mafia? What's your opinion on the interactions between me, rux, and HF? What's your opinion on TicTock's string of posts, and the conclusion he comes from it? true Well I think your reasoning for disliking damerion seemed pretty forced. Like if you had to think of something because you got asked. To the other things: If I don't say anything about other things it usally means I have no opinon on them. I'm newbie so it is still hard for me to figure out how I interpret posts and I prefer to wait until more is said before I give hasty reads I change anyways. So yes you are scummy. Fair. Hope that changes over the course of the game, b/c I'm not scum but I can see where you're coming from I guess. Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 07:44 ShoCkeyy wrote: lol at this early game posting. Is this the new meta? To just claim something and then hope no one notices you lied? I don't really like this entrance, and I don't really like his last post of "let's just wait for AFKers to come in." you shouldn't be sitting around twiddling your thumbs and waiting for people to not be AFK. it's awful behavior, and there was more than enough content to push some buttons/ask questions and agendas no bueno On November 01 2017 11:41 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 11:39 ShoCkeyy wrote:I mean the game just started, there is nothing to really post about other than Conversion getting triggered about being "grilled"... I also posted the list because I mentioned it's too early to even try to vote because these "list" haven't posted yet. I haven't really played with any of you other than Holy, Damred, Vivax, and what may be Oatsmaster (but I don't recall). So I'm still just poking around and seeing what comes out of what. I don't mind taking the fall for now until some one slips, cause it's what I usually do. So far those who are "suspicious" of me, one of them have a good chance at being scum  I just pointed your entrance out b/c it's like Tictock randomly de-towning me in his list for not seeing obvious joke posts.. except you applied that to a broader audience instead of just me. Seemed like a lazy, forced comment about a bunch of fluff that came out within the first hour of the game On November 02 2017 01:14 Conversion wrote: I'm voting ShoCkeyy until he stops dodging me for whatever reason. On November 02 2017 07:03 Conversion wrote: someone explain to me why shockey is bad town instead of scum for his leaps in logic and deflecting shit back onto me because I'm not seeing it and he should be lynched because he is scum On November 02 2017 07:34 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 07:23 ShoCkeyy wrote: I chose to dodge it, so there's my reason. I don't need to deal with you anymore but you insist, I've caught you messing up with your own posts, I've already proven that my reading comprehension isn't off, and you're easily triggered. I rather deal with others at this point.
And you're not being any help. Brb my sun here. you’re not dealing with anyone. you come up when someone mentions you then disappear again your behavior is 100% clear as day scum. try harder On November 03 2017 06:30 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2017 06:28 Vivax wrote: Well my vote stands and I explained why I'm not going to vote TT.
I'm not feeling a Ruxxar lynch either atm.
Shockey is simply the best lynch and I'm not going to do anything besides pointing to today's arguments and voting him for the rest of the game.
As I said, lynch shockey or feed. I mirror this part 1000% Which is kinda just a convoluted null read via meta... or a meta read with no conclusion which is kinda worse.
Don't really agree with this. He voted after you and I even thought shockeyy was the lynch and he made a post after I accused him of saving bf basically saying fight me. Looks fine imo.
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I'm gonna make a list. Brace yourselves.
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On June 28 2018 08:15 Mocsta wrote: #1099 well i read that stuff when i dived him and thought it was ok why is the inconsistency scummy?
like I think he states ?later? that calix is 80% scummy.. so makes sense to me he is fluctuating his position and the 25min pause because stamps is a fair bit of time to change position, at least for me lol
is that the only reason he thought you were scum. becase of HF? actually dont bother, i go chec now.
Because when Rayn says "the votes probably mean town is getting lynch" his own preffered lynch was winning.
Add to that that none of his posts try to do anything to bring up new potential wagons, in fact none of his posts suggest any real drive to affect anything that is going on. He's posting but just content with w/e is going on then.
In general his reads feel pretty shallow, uninteresting, and doesn't have much of any "fluctiating position" at all if you look. His shockey "dumb tell" makes no sense and feels fake as well, though I'm not sure if that solidifies a Rayn/Sho team for me. I could see mafia!rayn make the same comment regardless of Sho's alignment, kus either he's protecting a teammate or setting up a "I told you so" if Sho flips green.
I am also thinking the little shit fest between him and Conversion was possibly faked and they both used it as a way to get out of the thread for awhile. I still need to go back and re-read that stuff though.
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2018 power tier list sheep or die
Calix TT
Vivax Conversion Mocsta
Koshi (potential to move up) Copcake Slenderman (why)
Reg (possibly not with rayn) Shockey (possibly not with rayn) Rayn
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On June 28 2018 08:16 Vivax wrote: So now we've established that HF isn't psychic.
I'm pissed at both tt and conversion for rubbing it into my face like that how close I was to lynching shockey, but I will forgive you cause I am magnanimous. Can we kill him tomorrow thanks?
If you guys had been discussing Shokey a lot earlier when I was on him that could have been avoided, but I had to work and couldn't be around all of EoD.
I moved my vote when it actually seemed like it mattered and when I was able to.
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On June 28 2018 09:34 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 08:16 Vivax wrote: So now we've established that HF isn't psychic.
I'm pissed at both tt and conversion for rubbing it into my face like that how close I was to lynching shockey, but I will forgive you cause I am magnanimous. Can we kill him tomorrow thanks? If you guys had been discussing Shokey a lot earlier when I was on him that could have been avoided, but I had to work and couldn't be around all of EoD. I moved my vote when it actually seemed like it mattered and when I was able to.
There was a good long time he was discussed when you were around. You also posted in the vote thread specifically that you were not voting shockeyy....
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On June 28 2018 08:18 Holyflare wrote: Now about those discord chats and timestamps. How about that?
You can read them without this crap, this is the same as pestering a smurf until they tell you who they are. I get that the info feels like it could be helpful to you, but acting like it is vital is stupid.
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On June 28 2018 09:37 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 08:18 Holyflare wrote: Now about those discord chats and timestamps. How about that? You can read them without this crap, this is the same as pestering a smurf until they tell you who they are. I get that the info feels like it could be helpful to you, but acting like it is vital is stupid.
Am I not posting any other content towards them or what? I'm pretty sure I can post multiple things about people.
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I also absolutely pester smurfs the entire game to tell me who they are.
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On June 28 2018 08:19 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 08:16 Vivax wrote: So now we've established that HF isn't psychic.
I'm pissed at both tt and conversion for rubbing it into my face like that how close I was to lynching shockey, but I will forgive you cause I am magnanimous. Can we kill him tomorrow thanks? I'm not rubbing it in anyone's face-- I actually had to think a lot and came to a late conclusion. Would have been much, much easier if TT just voted to save himself as it made no sense in my head why he would go emo, make a comment on me going emo and modkilling myself in previous games, before ACTUALLY voting to save himself. But whatever. Boxerfred lynch was trash, and now we just extended day1 for no reason whatsover. Thanks shitty wagoners that enabled this to happen. TT dying would have been more favorable than this garbage
So why did you move your vote at all, and not try harder to sway people to vote me.
Love how multiple people are acting like I'm to blame for BF getting lynched.
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You are kind of to blame.
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I'm just talking to a brick wall. This catch up style and ignore the actual thread isn't a good way to play tt. You're denying me info and my ability to back and forth and figure things out.
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On June 28 2018 08:25 Holyflare wrote: I think you guys are playing a different game. None of the people (maybe shockey) up for lynch were scummy in the slightest. Half the thread had made absolutely no comment on the leading wagons because they were afk or busy. Rayn had just started to become scummy amd regfan has discord chats outstanding.
With me thinking the thread is such a shit show and a lot of townies up for lynch then instead of waiting two cycles and getting two potential modkills that could heavily swing this game badly we elminated a question mark that could have quite easily been mafia. We saved a guy that couldn't be bothered to save himself by voting confirmed town bf and is more than likely town because of it. Calix also voted to save tt and is extremely likely town.
That means we have a shit tonne of info that almost all wagons yesterday were town. Mafia love these situations and are happy flitting between lynches and not making much sense.
Rayn/cop/shockeyy (yeah if you wanted him lynched then you should have done more. Tough shit.) all look bad doing that. I'd probably add conversion here but that depends on shockey flip and conversion kind of looks ok too.
I'm happy with vivax and even koshi.
I am always willing to go down voting a wagon I believe in than save my own skin.
Why should I want to keep playing in a game where people are just gunna shit on whatever you do anyways? I get lynched, "Oh he played so bad it was his own fault" I stay alive "Oh he barely tried to save himself, if he had we coulda actually lynched mafia"
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On June 28 2018 09:46 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 08:25 Holyflare wrote: I think you guys are playing a different game. None of the people (maybe shockey) up for lynch were scummy in the slightest. Half the thread had made absolutely no comment on the leading wagons because they were afk or busy. Rayn had just started to become scummy amd regfan has discord chats outstanding.
With me thinking the thread is such a shit show and a lot of townies up for lynch then instead of waiting two cycles and getting two potential modkills that could heavily swing this game badly we elminated a question mark that could have quite easily been mafia. We saved a guy that couldn't be bothered to save himself by voting confirmed town bf and is more than likely town because of it. Calix also voted to save tt and is extremely likely town.
That means we have a shit tonne of info that almost all wagons yesterday were town. Mafia love these situations and are happy flitting between lynches and not making much sense.
Rayn/cop/shockeyy (yeah if you wanted him lynched then you should have done more. Tough shit.) all look bad doing that. I'd probably add conversion here but that depends on shockey flip and conversion kind of looks ok too.
I'm happy with vivax and even koshi. I am always willing to go down voting a wagon I believe in than save my own skin. Why should I want to keep playing in a game where people are just gunna shit on whatever you do anyways? I get lynched, "Oh he played so bad it was his own fault" I stay alive "Oh he barely tried to save himself, if he had we coulda actually lynched mafia"
Fuck the haters, lynch mafia. Works every time.
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On June 28 2018 08:32 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 08:30 Holyflare wrote: If you think ticktock is mafia copcake then you have to explain why as mafia he doesn't vote boxerfred or shockeyy to save himself until it's too late. I have explained he gave a 180 change of heart out of nowhere for calix when he was suspecting her HARD. You do NOT do that out of nowhere.
I didn't do it out of nowhere, I keep telling you that but you wont bother to check.
Even if I did, I did it as town. So stuff it, and realize you are bad and pocketed by mafia!rayn.
This is the last time I try to talk sensibly to you, as I am realizing you are stuck in this world.
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On June 28 2018 08:38 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 08:33 Holyflare wrote:On June 28 2018 08:32 CopCake wrote:On June 28 2018 08:30 Holyflare wrote: If you think ticktock is mafia copcake then you have to explain why as mafia he doesn't vote boxerfred or shockeyy to save himself until it's too late. I have explained he gave a 180 change of heart out of nowhere for calix when he was suspecting her HARD. You do NOT do that out of nowhere. This does not answer my question. Why does he let himself almost die as mafia? Why does he not vote to save himself? Ask him yourself, I would believe it was because he ess an ass to me and felt guilt.
This would have nothing to do with my alignment, nor my will to save myself.
I never intentionally play against my Win Con.
So try again.
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