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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 03:42 GMT
#1261
On June 28 2018 12:40 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 12:25 Conversion wrote:
I’m not civil to people who trash on an entire community

To answer your question (I think it’s in my filter somewhere, or at least a part of it), I could not see where town!TT would not vote his scumread to get Shockeyy off the island. Calix was one of my stronger townreads, so once she kept saying reconsider I was pretty much arguing with myself on the chances of you vs Shockeyy flipping mafia. Also didn’t really want to boxerfred lynch, and ended up making a decision too late (was pretty much thinking up until deadline and just made the decision to switch off). I don’t think it’s any alignment indication on the switch alone— it’s a pretty bad play regardless of town/scum angle, but that’s just my opinion


So, you didn't understand why I would not switch back to Shokey, but thought both of us could be mafia. So you had to have concluded that we were mafia together and I was wanting to save my teammate then correct?

The boxer thing I was in total agreence about if you noticed.



Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 12:26 CopCake wrote:
I have problems with TT changing his vote super super suñer literal last minute


Care to elaborate?



Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 12:30 Mocsta wrote:
On June 28 2018 12:17 Tictock wrote:
Wondering if Mocsta will notice his mistake, and in the meantime if reading comprehension is this big an issue or if I'm being pandered too.
That you werent bagging rayn?

I was giving my take on it, not going +1

Other than that, not sure what you could be referring to.


You somehow got reg and conversion totally confused, not sure how you made that mistake unless you only glanced at my post without reading it.
you commented on 2 timeline events

i agree conversion/rayn is natural so didnt bother.

i was comment on oriignal post which i believe was to regfan
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 03:44 GMT
#1262
On June 28 2018 12:41 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 12:38 Mocsta wrote:
On June 28 2018 12:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He himself proved he is town by bs shit.
if you r town.. i don get y this is bad....




I am gonna assume rayn is mad because gemma used a super cheap appeal to emotion card that made him feel bad flr no reason.

Rayn is a very sweet person and cares for his friends. That is why he invited refgan and slenderman here.
i thought it had to do with regfan going for a run and talking about the good ol' days.

nothing to do wityh gemma?

seems odd beef here because even you are adding "super cheap" here etc
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 28 2018 03:44 GMT
#1263
On June 28 2018 12:40 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 12:25 Conversion wrote:
I’m not civil to people who trash on an entire community

To answer your question (I think it’s in my filter somewhere, or at least a part of it), I could not see where town!TT would not vote his scumread to get Shockeyy off the island. Calix was one of my stronger townreads, so once she kept saying reconsider I was pretty much arguing with myself on the chances of you vs Shockeyy flipping mafia. Also didn’t really want to boxerfred lynch, and ended up making a decision too late (was pretty much thinking up until deadline and just made the decision to switch off). I don’t think it’s any alignment indication on the switch alone— it’s a pretty bad play regardless of town/scum angle, but that’s just my opinion


So, you didn't understand why I would not switch back to Shokey, but thought both of us could be mafia. So you had to have concluded that we were mafia together and I was wanting to save my teammate then correct?

The boxer thing I was in total agreence about if you noticed.



Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 12:26 CopCake wrote:
I have problems with TT changing his vote super super suñer literal last minute


Care to elaborate?



Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 12:30 Mocsta wrote:
On June 28 2018 12:17 Tictock wrote:
Wondering if Mocsta will notice his mistake, and in the meantime if reading comprehension is this big an issue or if I'm being pandered too.
That you werent bagging rayn?

I was giving my take on it, not going +1

Other than that, not sure what you could be referring to.


You somehow got reg and conversion totally confused, not sure how you made that mistake unless you only glanced at my post without reading it.


Yeah, that’s the only narrative that made sense unless you were just actually super down about the game and didn’t want to play anymore (but you had thread presence, so I felt like voting Shockeyy should have come first). In the end I thought that I could re-evaluate you over Shockeyy with a bunch of people saying you were town since I tend to be close to 100% wrong when that many people are telling me something that goes against my opinion (I think I was right only once when that happened)
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 28 2018 03:45 GMT
#1264
Rayn, what do you make of EoD?

Also sorry you rolled mafia.
I can take that responsibility.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 28 2018 03:45 GMT
#1265
On June 28 2018 12:44 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 12:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 28 2018 12:38 Mocsta wrote:
On June 28 2018 12:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He himself proved he is town by bs shit.
if you r town.. i don get y this is bad....




I am gonna assume rayn is mad because gemma used a super cheap appeal to emotion card that made him feel bad flr no reason.

Rayn is a very sweet person and cares for his friends. That is why he invited refgan and slenderman here.
i thought it had to do with regfan going for a run and talking about the good ol' days.

nothing to do wityh gemma?

seems odd beef here because even you are adding "super cheap" here etc


Gemma is the one who did the ugly post.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 28 2018 03:48 GMT
#1266
So you are just pandering to me then Mocsta?

Kus you clearly weren't trying to understand what I said in that post.
I can take that responsibility.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 03:50 GMT
#1267
On June 27 2018 21:40 Regfan wrote:
@Rayn - Lets talk, want to put your brain in for a second if you can find it?

Maybe there's a reason that Gemma and myself weren't playing much as a hydra for the prior parts? Hmmm. Let me think, oh yeah, I wasn't fucking here for ~20 hours and mentioned a few times I'm going to my girlfriends last night and would have zero chance to get to a computer. You know, that thing that I haven't been joining games of mafia for a while due to and why I've had to tell you no to playing prior games, yeah that? This really should be something that you'd have realised fucking ages ago. Oh and me playing this game a jigsaw puzzle and that I'm trying to break things into blocks and solve them that way re; what I was saying with you/calix/cake, the same thing where I've mentioned I assess things differently and look for anti-alignments in games to you before I agreed to come play a game here. And it really shouldn't be that difficult to understand why I'm more hesitant when it comes to reading you here, I pretty much know if you're scum and I state a town read on you here, you'll shoot me N1 and then make fun of me post-game for misreading you; sure I may have had a fairly good grip on reading you in the past, and heck, maybe I still do, but I've made it pretty clear in that I've changed a lot as a player since back then and I'm normally more patient when it comes to some reads. I wanted to be able to interact with you a lot and actually see you gamesolve to be able to solidify a read on you. But yeah, you're town, I don't think you go with this much of a stupid attack here if you're scum at all and think it's literally just another case of you not thinking about anything deeply at all, or stepping back and analysing and trying to solve.

So congrats, you've properly tilted me, happens very fucking rarely, but yeah, you're wrong on Calix, you're town and you're still completely unbearable to play with and I'm going for a run because I don't want to even deal with this shit anymore.

- R
On June 27 2018 22:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well you're probably town after all. Actually no, definitely. You have some weird way of twisting my play into some fucking bullshit about you when it is -- and has never been like that. It is cheap way to prove you're town Regfan, in my opinion. Whenever i disagree with you or think you are mafia you blow up and make a post like this. Also no, if i am mafia in this game i never shoot you N1 and no, i won't, or ever have made fun of you after game, as any fucking alignment (except for when you told erveryone in the game i am the worst player ever and then i got angry and single-handedly lynched all mafia and SK in a row because i got pissed off at you). And even then, that was my way of making fun of you, indirectly.

So if you wanna talk about something yeah, we can talk. I am gonna be gone for like 5-6 hours though. Maybe Gemma can like share the secret of why TT is a scumread because it still isn't out there. I also disagree with your reads on Koshi and Shockeyy. I do not think they are overly townie but when i have an actual scumread i am not lynching a null over scumread.
nothign to do with gemma?

i dunno how important this is.. so going to stop here

could just be group beef outside game


Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 03:54 GMT
#1268
On June 28 2018 12:48 Tictock wrote:
So you are just pandering to me then Mocsta?

Kus you clearly weren't trying to understand what I said in that post.
i dont understand where pander comes from

u say u give rayn BoD which is null or town

you reference convo/rayn as justification

im saying view it as null because i consider some external factors.

what is this pandering to you that you are mentioning? idg it?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 28 2018 04:15 GMT
#1269
On June 28 2018 12:45 Tictock wrote:
Rayn, what do you make of EoD?

Also sorry you rolled mafia.

I most likely made a mistake.
Should have stayed on mafia calix.
table for two on a tv tray
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 28 2018 04:39 GMT
#1270
I am still waiting for someone to tell me how rayn is mafia.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 05:00 GMT
#1271
On June 28 2018 13:39 CopCake wrote:
I am still waiting for someone to tell me how rayn is mafia.
I believe via PoE is where it comes from


On June 27 2018 21:16 Vivax wrote:
HF/koshi/shockey works for me actually. Probably a better combination than one including rayn, although I don't understand his anger about conversion, mostly cause I would just agree that I'm a dick at times.
On June 28 2018 05:48 Vivax wrote:
Copcop feels slightly townie after reread if I add a spanish accent to her wording so I guess the guys who are scum besides schockey are mocmoc and raynrayn. I'm sort of feeling good about HF as I don't believe he's just going to stay on boxer. I can't get rid of the feeling he's just sort of derping around tho.


I am not sure on TT current Rayn read. Filter ebbs and flows for last 10 ctrl+F
On June 28 2018 09:55 Tictock wrote:
Rayn is totes mafia, you also need to still explain why you think I am mafia. You keep putting out really vuage things about it.

Wait, actually weren't you the one who thought I was town and it was G who thought I was mafia? What happened?
On June 28 2018 10:22 Tictock wrote:
Yea that was after I wanted to lynch Rayn, also I may not have been fully caught up at that time. If so I guess that is my bad. I kept thinking I was was almost caught up, but this game has been pretty active.


This is more Rayn is in null-land territory
On June 27 2018 21:14 Conversion wrote:
1) I'm not actually being serious about HF. He sounds town, doesn't like TT like me. Overall his play is unimpressive to me so far

2) After some thought,TT is unremarkable and does his whole unlynchable shtick, but I doubt mafia would do that on a day where people get lynched for more inane reasons than that. That lynch pool was a gun to my head if I were to vote on people. I still don't think there's a mafia in Vivax/Calix, but I may be wrong.

If I'm going by PoE, you and rayn are not lynches today. Mocsta/HF/Cop are my town reads. Shockeyy/Vivax/Calix/Koshi

My Vivax read is more of a gut feel as he hasn't posted enough to form any read to me. I do actively question people who scum read him and Calix together as that makes almost 0% sense in my books


On June 28 2018 08:25 Holyflare wrote:
I think you guys are playing a different game. None of the people (maybe shockey) up for lynch were scummy in the slightest. Half the thread had made absolutely no comment on the leading wagons because they were afk or busy. Rayn had just started to become scummy amd regfan has discord chats outstanding.

With me thinking the thread is such a shit show and a lot of townies up for lynch then instead of waiting two cycles and getting two potential modkills that could heavily swing this game badly we elminated a question mark that could have quite easily been mafia. We saved a guy that couldn't be bothered to save himself by voting confirmed town bf and is more than likely town because of it. Calix also voted to save tt and is extremely likely town.

That means we have a shit tonne of info that almost all wagons yesterday were town. Mafia love these situations and are happy flitting between lynches and not making much sense.

Rayn/cop/shockeyy (yeah if you wanted him lynched then you should have done more. Tough shit.) all look bad doing that. I'd probably add conversion here but that depends on shockey flip and conversion kind of looks ok too.

I'm happy with vivax and even koshi.
On June 28 2018 09:33 Holyflare wrote:
2018 power tier list sheep or die

Calix
TT

Vivax
Conversion
Mocsta

Koshi (potential to move up)
Copcake
Slenderman (why)

Reg (possibly not with rayn)
Shockey (possibly not with rayn)
Rayn
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 28 2018 05:09 GMT
#1272
What is PoE?

I am not used to the terms. Probably appeal to emotion is the only one I use with meta.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 28 2018 05:10 GMT
#1273
Heh, holyflare cofirmed to have the worst reads in the game.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 28 2018 05:11 GMT
#1274
I will quote that HF post after game lol.
table for two on a tv tray
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 05:16 GMT
#1275
On June 28 2018 14:09 CopCake wrote:
What is PoE?

I am not used to the terms. Probably appeal to emotion is the only one I use with meta.
PoE is process of elimination

so in 13 player game.. if you have 10 town reads, the remaining 3 are mafia by process of elimination
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 05:17 GMT
#1276
when i can be bothered later on, im going to dive vivax
i dont get how I think it was TT thinks his filter is good.
Just looking for those rayn quotes was like meh, completely unfocused and just being there.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 28 2018 07:25 GMT
#1277
On June 28 2018 11:38 Regfan wrote:
As done as I am with this game and site, I actually find the idea of any of you talking about our alignment while we flake unbearable, so, here's a modkill:

Gemma - Yesterday at 9:01 PM
yeah
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/534607-chill-hop-mafia?page=20#381
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:01 PM
not sure how up to date you are
on the thread
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:01 PM
i don't get how mafia can talk that way
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:01 PM
but i've dumped a LOT of analysis lately
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:01 PM
in that situation
ok
i'm at page 22 or so
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:01 PM
ah, page 25 is
me walling
nonstop
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:02 PM
goodie
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:02 PM
really like that calix post
that you linked
also feel free to correct me if you disagree
but i kind of feel like this second half of d1
has felt even more dead than the first half
and i can easily see that being the case if it's cake/calix
walling each other and scum reading each other and they're t/t here
and scum just standing back
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:04 PM
i mean
i think tt is mafia
and pulled back on scumreading calix at at point where it looked like he was going to be lynched
so yes i think that's the world we're in
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:04 PM
i need to
talk with rayn in real time badly
if he's town here he's likely to decide the lynch
he's got koshi and cake as his 2nd & 3rd voters imo
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:05 PM
yeah
we need to talk to mocsta too
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:07 PM
hum
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:07 PM
he's reading calix for a lot of stuff that doesn't mean anything
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:07 PM
oh, yeah
i'm planning on
dropping a post on calix/cake as a duo-post
and then doing a separate post re; rayns & moscatos cases on calix
is next on my list
after that i've just got a rayn post/vivax post and to talk with you and i'm fully up to date
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:10 PM
ok
i'm not sure if i'm doing well enough to post anything
but i'll try
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:12 PM
np just try and catch up
and read my posts
i'm happy to be the one making the posts in the thread (i have the night free)
but want you to be up to date with where my heads at
so we can have a proper convo
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:19 PM
i'm caught up
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:20 PM
agree HF is VERY town?
i went over calix, dude is obvtown imo
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:21 PM
yes
how confident are you on calix?
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:22 PM
mocsta>hf=calix
huge gap, everyone else
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:23 PM
so let's save him?
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:23 PM
yeah, i'm going over cakes case on him atm
Gemma - Yesterday at 9:23 PM
k
Regfan - Yesterday at 9:23 PM
let me focus on that part?
and you focus on who we're actually lynching

-G

Mocsta, get out of here, you're too nice for this site. Calix, I really like you, you remind me of a good friend of mine from the site where I normally play, you should also never play here again. I really think you're dead wrong on TT. Never ever ever ever ever lynch like that again, please.


I'm somewhat glad you posted this in the way that you did because if I saw this and assumed it was the entirety of your chat for the whole game and it's within 20 minutes yesterday and doesn't contain half the things you said you talked about together I would have mafia read you non-stop.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 28 2018 07:26 GMT
#1278
I've tried being nice to you but you decided to modkill yourself instead when faced with totally non-toxic pressure so good day to you. I hope you find pleasure playing mafia elsewhere.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 28 2018 07:37 GMT
#1279
On June 28 2018 16:26 Holyflare wrote:
I've tried being nice to you but you decided to modkill yourself instead when faced with totally non-toxic pressure so good day to you. I hope you find pleasure playing mafia elsewhere.

Ehen did they get modkilled??
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 28 2018 07:44 GMT
#1280
They should
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