[M]Chill Hop Mafia - Page 4

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

June 26 2018 16:22 GMT

#346

On June 27 2018 01:19 CopCake wrote:
In addition, he seems to know me because he told Gemma about me and rayn being a couple 🤔 or at least has a little of knowledge of me. Idk, it is super odd.

Maybe he is a stalker? :o
Or maybe i have just talked with him on messenger.
Who knows?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

June 26 2018 16:28 GMT

#347

Can we have more of this pocketing stuff? I find it almost as amusing as popcorn.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

June 26 2018 16:36 GMT

#355

On June 27 2018 01:30 CopCake wrote:

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Huh, well you know he asked about me and I told him to ask you or slendy but asking outside the thread wouldnt it be bad? :p

But if you have told him before then nevermind.

I just dont like him, he seems mafiaish to me.

Asking about yourself is a different thing than asking about you from someone else as in playing in a mafia game. Sometimes how you perceive yourself can tell more about you than how others perceive you, and it might make a difference. So like.. telling to ask from someone else isn't really an answer, regardless of what you think about your own play or what you think other people think about your play or if they can describe it better or not.

I have talked with him before, how do you think he ended up into this game not knowing people other than me and Slendy? :p

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

June 26 2018 16:40 GMT

#359

Are you going to read something at some point Conversion?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

June 26 2018 16:41 GMT

#361

Very good then don't post pls and let us lynch mafia.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

June 26 2018 16:42 GMT

#364

Also put your vote on Calix (or Vivax).

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

June 26 2018 16:43 GMT

#366

On June 27 2018 01:42 Conversion wrote:
But raynpelikoneet being an ass, what else is new

I am pretty sure gameplaywise you are more of an ass than i am, so if i was you i would shut my mouth on this topic.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

June 26 2018 16:46 GMT

#368

I agree, you're trash.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

June 26 2018 16:58 GMT

#370

I dont want to have anything to do with this game anymore.
Calix is mafia.
Vivax is mafia.
Maybe Regfan is mafia, idk. Could be boxerfred, Slendy. Maybe 3% Holyflare.

bye.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

June 27 2018 12:21 GMT

#521

I simply don't have much to add rn. Also when someone acts like complete ass towards me for no reason at all i am gonna grab my tools and go home. I have better things to do than lose my mental health over some idiot.

Calix is painfully obviously mafia. Vote on Vivax means absolutely nothing since it's probably the best thing to do regardless of Vivax' affiliation. She isn't even trying to do anything after Cake case, simply just nothing, except for looking into lurkers (which also was btw scummy as per her opinion). If i have ever seen a staged conversation it is the one between Calix and Vivax. Oh my dear god i laughed at it yesterday.

Vivax has simply zero train of thought in anything he has said this game. It is that simple.

I am growing more and more suspicions regarding the hydra. Probably our third mafia right there. Some bullet points:
- The thing i talked about earlier where Regfan's and Gemma's thoughts never even try to meld. It was like they are playing a completely different game by themselves and not even trying to figure out which one is wrong when they have a differing opinion on something. Magically, now, when i point this out, it changes!

Except that this doesn't make any sense either since Gemma tried to feed some "you don't probably just know how playing as hydra works" bullshit that doesn't even make any sense. But anyways, if she believes in that, there is no reason to change the way they act. So basically it is just done because someone figured out it is not natural what they were doing, and it is because the only reasons you would want to do that is to either stay on both side of the fences or if "one person fucks up, the other one cleans after".
- Then there is the thing where Gemma calls Calix town because Calix was nice, and me mafia because i was not nice, early on in the game. When Calix answers my case later on (i should also note that Calix never really touches the actual case even, just some random shit about wording and stuff), what's Gemma's opinion... Calix is supertown because Calix is not nice!!!! Yeahhhh, it's quite amusing when supposedly same standards work in the opposite way regading who is the person in question.
- Same with Regfan's read on Calix. The post where Mocsta did go into argument with him earlier today. Regfan doesn't want to lynch Calix because some bs about some three people not being mafia together and some percentage stuff. What is that even, you lynch people who are scummy. If you don't want to lynch someone then you don't think they are scummy. Regfan never even says if he thinks Calix is scummy or not, just some crap that has nothing to do with Calix' affiliation and the conclusion is "not a good lynch". Way to present a "read" without actually saying anything about the person.
- Then there is this TT read. 12 hours ago Gemma literally posted this; "We both felt good about TT at the same time.". Suddenly Gemma heavily dislikes TT, for no apparent reason. Basically the only thing TT has done since 12 hrs ago is agreed with the hydra's read that Calix is not necessarily a good lynch. That is literally the only thing that has changed regarding tictocks reads after Gemma called him town. Conclusion; Holyflare watch out, you see what they are doing?

- I am not sure i believe regfan doesn't have a read on me since basically every game we have been together in he (as town) always claims "rayn is super easy to read when he is town" (which also simply by association means i am easy to read when i am mafia). If that is correct or not, it's irrelevant, it's relevant he believes so regardless how much of time has passed from our last game together.

So yeah, those are my scumreads. I pretend Conversion doesn't exist in the game but he is most likely not mafia anyways.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

June 27 2018 13:38 GMT

#554

On June 27 2018 20:17 Regfan wrote:
-> I actually really liked Calix's point 2) on Cake in #172, is very much what we were thinking and talking about amongst each other at the time in that we could see a world where Cake was TMI'ing & pocketing players in the way they were giving town reads, the fact that Calix picked up on the same thing we did there is actually a very good sign regardless of whether Cakes scum or not. I find the interaction that follows with Cake to be fairly easy to follow and make plenty of sense. Dudes posts throughout his entire ISO actually scream town, a lot and his reaction in posts like #290, #298 and #307 all ring genuine; his analysis of the section and pull back on Cake there. Gemma linked me to #381 and I'm in agreement that I don't think that's how scum react towards being pushed there at all. Dude is very very clearly town, will try and spend some time running through the cases against him because he shouldn't ever be the lynch here, like ever.

- R

I will never ever think this is a good or accurate reasoning to townread someone. So we just have to agree to disagree. especially the ifrst part and the last part. I literally just proved Calix' analysis 100% wrong and what does she do? She never even for a second tried to figure out if i am right or wrong just calls me mafia. It jsut simply isn't a townie approach. The "reaction to rayn's post" is also very bad in my opinion. Idk maybe people who play as scum on other forums are just so terrible they cannot fake emotion or are completely emotionless as mafia. The main point is Calix never even defends against my argument and instead attacks the person. It's just simply not what townies do. It is very easy for a townie to say "you accuse me of X, i did not do X, looke here is why the case is bad." Or "yeah i did X, but i didn't do it because of why you say i did, this is why i did it [add explanation]". The only thing Calix even says is she attacks my wording which is completely irrelevant to what i say, and twists the meaning of my post onto something that it isn't, aka "you're not really even calling me mafia but stupid". That isn't defending yourself, that's trying to make the other person look "worse" for other people without actually saying anything about the case. And FYI acting arrogant like claix did in a situation like that isn't a towntell, ever.

On June 27 2018 21:40 Regfan wrote:
@Rayn - Lets talk, want to put your brain in for a second if you can find it?

Maybe there's a reason that Gemma and myself weren't playing much as a hydra for the prior parts? Hmmm. Let me think, oh yeah, I wasn't fucking here for ~20 hours and mentioned a few times I'm going to my girlfriends last night and would have zero chance to get to a computer. You know, that thing that I haven't been joining games of mafia for a while due to and why I've had to tell you no to playing prior games, yeah that? This really should be something that you'd have realised fucking ages ago. Oh and me playing this game a jigsaw puzzle and that I'm trying to break things into blocks and solve them that way re; what I was saying with you/calix/cake, the same thing where I've mentioned I assess things differently and look for anti-alignments in games to you before I agreed to come play a game here. And it really shouldn't be that difficult to understand why I'm more hesitant when it comes to reading you here, I pretty much know if you're scum and I state a town read on you here, you'll shoot me N1 and then make fun of me post-game for misreading you; sure I may have had a fairly good grip on reading you in the past, and heck, maybe I still do, but I've made it pretty clear in that I've changed a lot as a player since back then and I'm normally more patient when it comes to some reads. I wanted to be able to interact with you a lot and actually see you gamesolve to be able to solidify a read on you. But yeah, you're town, I don't think you go with this much of a stupid attack here if you're scum at all and think it's literally just another case of you not thinking about anything deeply at all, or stepping back and analysing and trying to solve.

So congrats, you've properly tilted me, happens very fucking rarely, but yeah, you're wrong on Calix, you're town and you're still completely unbearable to play with and I'm going for a run because I don't want to even deal with this shit anymore.

- R

Well you're probably town after all. Actually no, definitely. You have some weird way of twisting my play into some fucking bullshit about you when it is -- and has never been like that. It is cheap way to prove you're town Regfan, in my opinion. Whenever i disagree with you or think you are mafia you blow up and make a post like this. Also no, if i am mafia in this game i never shoot you N1 and no, i won't, or ever have made fun of you after game, as any fucking alignment (except for when you told erveryone in the game i am the worst player ever and then i got angry and single-handedly lynched all mafia and SK in a row because i got pissed off at you). And even then, that was my way of making fun of you, indirectly.

So if you wanna talk about something yeah, we can talk. I am gonna be gone for like 5-6 hours though. Maybe Gemma can like share the secret of why TT is a scumread because it still isn't out there. I also disagree with your reads on Koshi and Shockeyy. I do not think they are overly townie but when i have an actual scumread i am not lynching a null over scumread.