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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 02 2018 19:15 GMT
#2441
I dont know Calix’s personality

Like the moment I was about to be lunched I would have screamed I am a blue role lol

And i would be telling HF he is mafia the very same moment he told me i am not parity cop because I know it is true and only a mafia would have reacted like that.

That is why I was asking if it was w/w

Because like I said before, if slenderman flips town, town will lynch me inmediatly next day.

It is also odd that slenderman is considered the mafia and I am the town in this scenario.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 02 2018 19:26 GMT
#2442
On July 03 2018 04:15 CopCake wrote:
I dont know Calix’s personality

1. Like the moment I was about to be lunched I would have screamed I am a blue role lol

And i would be telling HF he is mafia the very same moment he told me i am not parity cop because I know it is true and only a mafia would have reacted like that.

That is why I was asking if it was w/w

2. Because like I said before, if slenderman flips town, town will lynch me inmediatly next day.

3. It is also odd that slenderman is considered the mafia and I am the town in this scenario.


1. Here are my thoughts on blue claims. This post is from a game where I was Vanilla Town:

On April 14 2018 06:28 Calix wrote:
I do not claim blue to save myself as either alignment. I don't do it as blue because blues who play like shit should usually be lynched and I am no exception. I don't do it as mafia because I never do it as blue so claiming a role under pressure would be a scum claim. I am explaining this because this isn't standard TL Mafia site meta. I do not care if you agree with me or not because I believe this regardless of alignment. You just need to know that this is logic I use.


2. It is LYLO. If we lynch Slenderman and he is town then it is game over. But you would be mafia in that scenario so you would already know that.

3. I am making the WILD (this is sarcasm) assumption that the person who cares about the game is town and the person who knows the game exists but doesn't care much is mafia. This is a heuristic but it is generally accurate.

But you're correct on one point. It is weird that nobody gives a fuck about you.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 02 2018 19:28 GMT
#2443
Why would I trust your 50/50 coinflip over two people claiming doctor on different days?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 02 2018 19:29 GMT
#2444
Clearly if you believe Koshi's claim, you have 100% mafia in rayn. If you believe rayn's claim, you have 100% mafia in Koshi. There are no in-betweens, there is no 50/50. This is why I don't care about Slenderman or Copcake
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 02 2018 19:30 GMT
#2445
The fact that you're trying to advocate your slendy/copcake check as what we need to focus on and lynch into without even addressing two doctor claims is outrageous and makes me want to believe you're not town even more.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 02 2018 19:30 GMT
#2446
like am I missing something here? why wouldn't we lynch into the two people that claimed the same role?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 02 2018 19:38 GMT
#2447
like I'm so confused at this whole situation. why would rayn even claim doctor.. the most likely possibility I guess is town rayn taht lied about doctor claim and doc Koshi

or doc rayn and mafia Koshi? but rayn not counterclaiming makes it seem like Koshi isn't lying

meh
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 02 2018 19:42 GMT
#2448
I have seen rayn fake claim doctor before as town
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 02 2018 19:43 GMT
#2449
ok I have seen the light and rayn/Koshi is most likely not the wagon we hit.

so now if I blindly believe in the parity cop Calix even though I don't think town anyone actually makes those checks, I have to filter a player with 3 posts vs Copcake who's been active this entire game

fun
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 02 2018 19:44 GMT
#2450
On July 03 2018 04:30 Conversion wrote:
like am I missing something here? why wouldn't we lynch into the two people that claimed the same role?


My personal belief is that rayn fake-claimed but is town, and that Koshi is the doctor. The only 'strong' evidence I have for you is that if Koshi is town, then he MUST have saved rayn, yes?

I'll explain a scenario where doc!Koshi 'saves' mafia!rayn and show you why it doesn't make much sense:

It's possible mafia!rayn fake-claims medic and then no-shoots. But mafia!rayn would HAVE to know a real doctor was in the game (since there are always two blues with me around). So if mafia!rayn decided to no shoot with that information then he has no idea who the real doctor is going to save or whether a vigilante would shoot on N2 or anything like that. He has no real incentive to no-shoot.

Basically the mafia!Koshi and mafia!rayn scenarios are TECHNICALLY possible but also make no sense. Thus I conclude both are town.

If you disagree, please find my mafia!Koshi post and mafia!rayn post and tell me how my logic is wrong, please. This is very speculative so I may have missed a scenario. But I think what I say makes sense.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 02 2018 19:44 GMT
#2451
Ok so

If we misslynch today it is game over?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 02 2018 19:45 GMT
#2452
yup
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 02 2018 19:46 GMT
#2453
On July 03 2018 04:44 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2018 04:30 Conversion wrote:
like am I missing something here? why wouldn't we lynch into the two people that claimed the same role?


My personal belief is that rayn fake-claimed but is town, and that Koshi is the doctor. The only 'strong' evidence I have for you is that if Koshi is town, then he MUST have saved rayn, yes?

I'll explain a scenario where doc!Koshi 'saves' mafia!rayn and show you why it doesn't make much sense:

It's possible mafia!rayn fake-claims medic and then no-shoots. But mafia!rayn would HAVE to know a real doctor was in the game (since there are always two blues with me around). So if mafia!rayn decided to no shoot with that information then he has no idea who the real doctor is going to save or whether a vigilante would shoot on N2 or anything like that. He has no real incentive to no-shoot.

Basically the mafia!Koshi and mafia!rayn scenarios are TECHNICALLY possible but also make no sense. Thus I conclude both are town.

If you disagree, please find my mafia!Koshi post and mafia!rayn post and tell me how my logic is wrong, please. This is very speculative so I may have missed a scenario. But I think what I say makes sense.


Mafia koshi and Mafia rayn doesnt work i think because theu are forced to shot no? And in that case it is just one blue role (which is yours)
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 02 2018 19:48 GMT
#2454
I have a questiooonnnnn

Can you parity cop dead people or not?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 02 2018 19:49 GMT
#2455
I will also ask two things:

If I'm mafia with TWO team mates who decides (presumably in the mafia QT) to fake-claim Cop, then:

1. Why do I pick 'the worst checks of all time'? Wouldn't my mafia buddies point this out and tell me to get more believable fake cop checks? What mafia motivation do I have to pick Slenderman and CopCake of all people when I could just pick my two scum-reads?

2. Why is everyone just ignoring the cop checks aside from the guy who claimed doctor? Wouldn't my mafia buddies want to push this in the thread or something? That would be why I 'fake claimed' right? Because I'm trying to get that last mislynch.

This post is WIFOM to the max but I don't give a shit. You guys haven't even considered how weird it is that (with the exception of Koshi) EVERYONE'S response to me has been "your checks suck, you suck at the game and you're mafia". Nobody is supporting me here.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 02 2018 19:50 GMT
#2456
On July 03 2018 04:48 CopCake wrote:
I have a questiooonnnnn

Can you parity cop dead people or not?


No.

Not that I asked because if you can then that defeats the whole point of Parity Cop.

But still, no.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
July 02 2018 19:51 GMT
#2457
No

If rayn fake claimed doctor and koshi protected him and there were no dead people they are both town.

No way in hell mafia would avoid a kill, and they MUST have tried to kill rayn or someone else, specially if they are close to win.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
July 02 2018 19:51 GMT
#2458
On July 03 2018 04:46 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2018 04:44 Calix wrote:
On July 03 2018 04:30 Conversion wrote:
like am I missing something here? why wouldn't we lynch into the two people that claimed the same role?


My personal belief is that rayn fake-claimed but is town, and that Koshi is the doctor. The only 'strong' evidence I have for you is that if Koshi is town, then he MUST have saved rayn, yes?

I'll explain a scenario where doc!Koshi 'saves' mafia!rayn and show you why it doesn't make much sense:

It's possible mafia!rayn fake-claims medic and then no-shoots. But mafia!rayn would HAVE to know a real doctor was in the game (since there are always two blues with me around). So if mafia!rayn decided to no shoot with that information then he has no idea who the real doctor is going to save or whether a vigilante would shoot on N2 or anything like that. He has no real incentive to no-shoot.

Basically the mafia!Koshi and mafia!rayn scenarios are TECHNICALLY possible but also make no sense. Thus I conclude both are town.

If you disagree, please find my mafia!Koshi post and mafia!rayn post and tell me how my logic is wrong, please. This is very speculative so I may have missed a scenario. But I think what I say makes sense.


Mafia koshi and Mafia rayn doesnt work i think because theu are forced to shot no? And in that case it is just one blue role (which is yours)


Setup states mafia can no-shoot. But if town no-lynches then mafia are forced to shoot first.

Koshi/ Rayn is NEVER a team. But I'm saying neither of them are mafia.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 02 2018 19:51 GMT
#2459
I have no idea what parity cop does, but I'm assuming if you check someone D1 and they die, you still have their alignment for the next check (plus the flip to extra confirm), but I don't think you can check dead people
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 02 2018 19:52 GMT
#2460
I have no idea on the specifics of what a parity cop does**
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