[M]Chill Hop Mafia - Page 124

On July 03 2018 03:39 Calix wrote:


You are too tunneled on a read you've had for most of the game. I bet you and rayn will yell at me post-game when I flip town without so much as a "sorry for tunneling you for three days" as well.

I can't convince you two of anything and the mafia will vote me with you two.

With that in mind, I think I will accept my mislynch. I have already fought my way out of a lynch twice. I do not care enough about the town win condition anymore to do this a third time.

On July 03 2018 04:56 Calix wrote:
CopCake very clearly gives a fuck about doing stuff and solving the game.

Slenderman doesn't.

This is a heuristic (I could be underestimating CopCake's mafia game and her play isn't super-townie) but it's accurate enough that I'm willing to roll with it.

On July 03 2018 04:59 CopCake wrote:


Oh

As mafia I am excellent.

As town not so much, I am paranoid.

On July 03 2018 04:30 Conversion wrote:
like am I missing something here? why wouldn't we lynch into the two people that claimed the same role?

On July 03 2018 04:43 Conversion wrote:
ok I have seen the light and rayn/Koshi is most likely not the wagon we hit.

so now if I blindly believe in the parity cop Calix even though I don't think town anyone actually makes those checks, I have to filter a player with 3 posts vs Copcake who's been active this entire game

fun

On July 03 2018 05:01 Conversion wrote:
why is your heuristic that mafia gives less fucks than town enough to the point that they have a 3 post filter in a 100+ page game

On July 01 2018 09:04 TheSlenderMan wrote:
I thought the Day would end tomorrow, not today :/

I see going by the last few pages that my inactivity warrants an apology. I don't know yet what has happened in the Thread, but I see a LOT of Modkills so something nasty must've happened.

I only had time to read a measly ten pages. If I do get retroactively modkilled for inactivity (as some people seem to be demanding), there's probably only one useful thing I can say at this point: I feel VERY strongly that Cake is Town. Cake isn't this fortright and confident as Mafia -- she "beats up around the bush" (if that's the correct English idiom) and focuses on manipulating people but doesn't do that here. I've played with her a lot and feel VERY strongly about this read.

If I had voted based on what I had read, my Vote would've gone to Calix. I really, really dislike the early Vote on Cake. Not because I disagree with the read, but because it felt really lazy, identifying Cake as a possible "low-hanging fruit" in the Thread. It didn't seem to have legitimate content-analysis to back the Vote up. Other than that his thread-presence has so far merely warranted the comment "okay-ish" in my notes, and such meek thread-presence (I've noticed) often ends up pointing to Scum.

rayn has started the game pointing out the exact things I would've expected him to, in the exact tone. So I feel pretty confident in saying he's also Town here, FWIW.

Of the non-modkilled early posters that leaves only Conversion and HF -- HF's start seems different compared to the last game, but not in a suspicion-raising way. "Undecided", in other words.
Conversion has been relaxed slash borderline troll-y, but based on small things like #133 I'd say they are slightly more likely to be Town. Ultimately also "undecided", though.

FWIW Mocsta seemed very different compared to the last game so my read of him was Town.
TicTock I felt more iffy about -- the tone of the early pages Townread to me, but #105 was really bad and #108 seemed self-aware in a Mafia-like way.
Regfan seemed very Town to me. Played with him a lot but that was many many years ago. As Mafia he starts painting himself in a corner very early in the game (tries to "overproduce content" in other words). There was no sight of that here, and the whole hydra-dynamic seemed not forced.

On July 03 2018 04:44 Calix wrote:


My personal belief is that rayn fake-claimed but is town, and that Koshi is the doctor. The only 'strong' evidence I have for you is that if Koshi is town, then he MUST have saved rayn, yes?

I'll explain a scenario where doc!Koshi 'saves' mafia!rayn and show you why it doesn't make much sense:

It's possible mafia!rayn fake-claims medic and then no-shoots. But mafia!rayn would HAVE to know a real doctor was in the game (since there are always two blues with me around). So if mafia!rayn decided to no shoot with that information then he has no idea who the real doctor is going to save or whether a vigilante would shoot on N2 or anything like that. He has no real incentive to no-shoot.

Basically the mafia!Koshi and mafia!rayn scenarios are TECHNICALLY possible but also make no sense. Thus I conclude both are town.

If you disagree, please find my mafia!Koshi post and mafia!rayn post and tell me how my logic is wrong, please. This is very speculative so I may have missed a scenario. But I think what I say makes sense.

On July 03 2018 05:05 CopCake wrote:
Eh

The problem is that I can see Slenderman to give a fuck if he was mafia.