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On July 20 2017 02:47 Holyflare wrote: EC why is rels scum for his vote when you TOWN read tumble?!?!?!?!
I thought about it a lot and I think tumble is scum too. You can take or leave your belief in this since I didn't post about it in thread. But look at the tone of questions I was asking.
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On July 19 2017 22:47 sicklucker wrote: 5 towns voted him 4 are confirmed towns. everyone that I think could potentially still be mafia voted to save him. He wants to kill me who is town. he wants to kill tumble who is probably town.
If you dont think tumbleweeds mafia that means all mafia voted to save skynx
On July 20 2017 00:29 Tumblewood wrote: i waanna town sl too. what i'm seeing is definitely the way i know him to approach the game. and he has some solid points too
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On July 19 2017 21:18 sicklucker wrote: day 1 vote
skynx - Dandred, Geript, va, ruxxar four confirmed town voted skynx day one... I cant make this shit up.
The other two mafia are on the counter wagon and theres only 3 options from my pov
On July 19 2017 21:19 sicklucker wrote: but then again mafia are sometimes awful and none vote to save there roleblocker....
But I still think its right here
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On July 20 2017 02:53 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 02:49 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:43 Rels wrote:On July 20 2017 02:39 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 02:17 Rels wrote: EC probably the third for this BS read on me, taht's only a nice story that proves nothing. Town does that too sometimes so maybe he's bad, but it's literally the only thing he's done for 50 hours. Heh it's true. If you're town you really need to stop spouting BS. Your main argument for scumreading me is a story. It's not fact, it's not scum mindset, it's just a story, that might or might nor be true. It doesn't prove shit. That I scumread TW but didn't vote until the very end proves nothing. Your argument that I'm asking shit questions make no sense too. First because it's against the facts, I don't remember asking you a lot of questions, the only thing I wanted an answer from you that I remember is the HF read. Second because it contradicts another post of yours where ytou say the exact opposite, that I'm scumreading you but not asking you questions. I recall these being separate occasions. Probably the last two nights. You trying to get a reaction out of tumble, getting one, the forgetting it is incredibly suspicious to me. It looks like you didn't care at all. Getting the reaction, then forgetting about it goes exactly against your reason for holding the vote. This is why I don't believe you on either point. Holding your vote from your team mate and then once the pressure is off is entirely what scum would do. What any self respecting scum player would do in this situation is jump onto the wagon for extra credit or divert the lynch as hard as they can rels did neither
sl did it for him
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On July 20 2017 02:54 Holyflare wrote: and by a lot I mean like 8 or so minutes today without reading anything
If rels and tumble are a scum team, do their actions make sense together?
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Then maybe I'm crazy, but my case on rels is not bad, despite what he repeats.
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mmm this was the excitement that this game needed
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On July 20 2017 02:59 Holyflare wrote:there's one thing you can do to resolve your alignment though and that's vote vivax 
I can vote him now to make you happy, maybe he'll be motivated to post something. But at the end of the day we flip either rels or tumble.
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On July 20 2017 03:04 Rels wrote: what happened to the open mind you wanted to keep ?
OK fair, but I will need a lot of convincing from this point.
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On July 20 2017 03:04 Rels wrote: and what happened to your Koshi read ?
By poe he dropped to like maybe 4/5.
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On July 20 2017 03:08 Holyflare wrote: My two wagon choices are EC and Vivax
What reasons do you have for thinking rels is town?
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On July 20 2017 03:12 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 03:09 Rels wrote:On July 15 2017 18:11 emperorchampion wrote: Something maybe kinda stupid that I was thinking about: how genuine is koshi's read of damdred based off of damdred 's read of geript. I assume there was some bullshit in damdy's read since he knew they were town based on masons.
Rayns seemed more genuine but idk On July 15 2017 18:25 emperorchampion wrote:On July 13 2017 19:23 Koshi wrote: Damdred tried to explain why geript is town and gave that read to the thread. =good stuff. Trying to convince somebody is town with reasoning that another person can understand is a townie treat. Him being extremely confident about it is also more likely town over mafia because mafia is afraid of showing TMI.
Damdred is town.
People who pretend to have a lot of reads but are not sharing them with the thread: rsoultin
PS to rayn: he is talking about ruxxar Like this post is exactly wrong, maybe damdy can chime in more, but I assume there was some tmi in the read. Mafia motivation is to fit in, buddy rayn for same reads. Did Koshi really know that Damdred / geript were masons at the time he wrote that post ? If yes then it's really damning But he didn't ? It's during the first 24 hours of the game. Why are you saying Koshi knew Damdred was mason ?
What are you talking about?
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On July 20 2017 03:14 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 03:13 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 03:08 Holyflare wrote: My two wagon choices are EC and Vivax What reasons do you have for thinking rels is town? his sl read just now seemed out of the blue and honest and I liked it and the fact that he's still trying to solve the game when there's literally just us three in the thread he's also scum reading vivax which is the correct thing to do and voting him which you're not even sticking to because you're mafia D:
Idk about you, but it's just too coincidental that three players with poor filters, also happen to save each other, then come around on town reads on each other out of the blue. None of them have as primary lynch targets. It was looking for a while like rels was gonna get bussed.
When I try interacting with sl and tumble about rels: not a single thing.
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The association is association, maybe whatever, but all three are scummy in their own rights.
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On July 20 2017 03:18 Rels wrote: weird thing to say. EC did you find Damdred's read of geript bad ? It's not BS just because it's fabricated. Actually it's not fabricated since he knows geript is town, he can find stuff that makes him town with less doubts. So what made you think Damdred's read was bad ?
I remember it being weird to have such a strong read early in the game off so little. The read itself is totally inconsequential to my point on koshi.
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Call to arms in the qt! :D
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On July 20 2017 03:23 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 03:18 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 03:14 Holyflare wrote:On July 20 2017 03:13 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2017 03:08 Holyflare wrote: My two wagon choices are EC and Vivax What reasons do you have for thinking rels is town? his sl read just now seemed out of the blue and honest and I liked it and the fact that he's still trying to solve the game when there's literally just us three in the thread he's also scum reading vivax which is the correct thing to do and voting him which you're not even sticking to because you're mafia D: Idk about you, but it's just too coincidental that three players with poor filters, also happen to save each other, then come around on town reads on each other out of the blue. None of them have as primary lynch targets. It was looking for a while like rels was gonna get bussed. When I try interacting with sl and tumble about rels: not a single thing. no it's not coincidental in the slightest because: 1. Your TW read ALSO was updated to be that he was town because of tone etc at deadline: Show nested quote +Tumblewood: has a few things going for him from previously for me, plus towny reaction around eod 2. Confirmed town also saved Tumblewood, who you town read AT THE SAME TIME AS THEM. 3. Rels looked awful from not placing his vote at the time. Mafia don't want to look awful. 4. Like I said before, mafia don't make these plans you're talking about. 5. SL pushed someone he thought was mafia over someone he said started looking towny, which you yourself thought too (tw looked towny), so SL is not mafia because he started pushing his mafia read (like last game  ). If confirmed town damdred/geript(at some point) could vote off TW and you said he was looking towny it's not a big stretch in the slightest that they could be town too. You have just started a narrative. You also arbitrarily have made Tumblewood mafia again FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON other than people saving him. This only makes sense in the world where you have to rewrite history. You town read TW at that same time, just like those people, you can't erase this and rewrite the narrative.
1. I can understand the reasons that the tumble related things don't make sense. To me my read was based on tone, but the way things look now it's bad to me. If you want other reasons to think he's scum you can look up koshi's case.
2. Rels clearly thinks he looks good by changing his vote at the last second, so I think your point is moot on that.
3. It doesn't have to be a "plan" , sl just comes in and tries to get the vote off of tumble because he's a teammate
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Look at the house of cards they built hf
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On July 20 2017 03:35 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 03:33 emperorchampion wrote: 2. Rels clearly thinks he looks good by changing his vote at the last second, so I think your point is moot on that. You have to be kidding. Show nested quote +On July 20 2017 02:54 Rels wrote: like, in no ways that proves I'm town. But in no ways it proves I'm scum neither
Last night you were defending your reasons for not voting sl by saying you voted him last minute. So a good thing in your mind.
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I will think it over, but I'm not completely convinced I'm crazy yet.
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