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On July 27 2017 03:39 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2017 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2017 03:25 beentheredonethat wrote:On July 27 2017 03:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2017 03:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
Basically, I reacted to the discussion with "stop it immediately" and I hope it kinda worked. ??? On July 15 2017 18:02 beentheredonethat wrote:
Stop that discussion right now, everyone. Not sure what you mean with those question marks, rayn. There was a lot of back and forth PM'ing in the background going on. I mean that 100% of the stuff had already gone off before that post of yours. That's correct. That's why I said previously that I don't have 24/7 availability. I'm not saying that I solved it, I just summed up my in thread reaction. Keep in mind there was quite the PM war going on in the meantime  .
yeah but you were still able to do votecounts and even a night post.
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On July 27 2017 03:11 geript wrote:
Not lynching Koshi D2 was a major mistake. I should've been all over that band wagon. My problem is that I've seen Koshi give absolutely 0 fucks as both alignments and I like a few minor comments he made. Overall though, the Ruxxar Lynch on D2 was a fucking travesty because he was far from a good lynch then. Not lynching VA was much tougher IMO; I don't think there were any slam dunk cases around. We maybe could've pulled a lurker lynch for SL, but past that IDK. There weren't any slam dunk cases on D1 and there were a number of people who allowed the lurker scum to not be easy policy lynches.
Like here's the thing Rels. If you start playing and start to look towny on D2, you've helped scum get a more favorable lynch on D1. On D1, I think Rels, SL, Koshi, TW, Tina and maybe EC could've all been solid lynches as Lurker + questionable play. On D2, Rels removed himself from that list; maybe EC did too. IDK, I feel really good and bad about my EC reads this game (which I'm ok with since I haven't seen him before). IMO, the most important thing you can do as town is to remove yourself from the lynch list. If all townies are obviously town, then finding the right person to lynch becomes super easy. Even if they're just reasonably townie, people will find reasons to lynch someone else.
Ruxxar D2 was a huge mistake I felt. Not there to defend himself, everyone had been talking about others the whole day phase...very strange lynch.
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On July 26 2017 21:59 Holyflare wrote:
I'm just going to tackle the elephant in the room. If anyone is offended by something then next time just talk to the host and get them to sort it out. If you post anything in the thread I will never believe a word you're saying because this is a mafia game and people lie and manipulate all the time. There were some definite derogatory things (and others taken way out of context/overblown) but at the end of the day that's what the hosts and end game are there to deal with.
Personally I found it difficult to act in the thread here as I was sitting in a very biased position given Tina is my fiancee. Was worried of making the situation worse if I stepped in. Perhaps I should have anyway, dno.
@btdt thanks man. You did a great job yourself especially given the medical stuff you had to deal with. Just gotta up your gif game a bit.
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Ruxxar was a bad lynch but an ok one in a way.
It gave us a decent amount of information about people's motivation. Without the shenanigans I don't think koshi or sl would of been quite as open after that.
Koshi was always the lynch probably the next day, but the way he subtly blamed everyone for the run over tw lynch while admitting to actively lurking did just seem scummy to me looking back at that moment.
Rux is actually fun to play with though, I just failed to read him correctly Mich of that day, when I read him correctly earlier.
Overall besides the rs issues (mad me sad an left), I thought it was a pretty enjoyable game that has some decent play in it overall by town.
I hope to play more seriously next game cause I'm stuck not being able to move easily for a bit  . Maybe some classic damdred that Ryan and hf will love and not hate me anymore 😣
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aww <3
you need to stop going to hospital ian
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On July 27 2017 03:47 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2017 03:11 geript wrote:
Not lynching Koshi D2 was a major mistake. I should've been all over that band wagon. My problem is that I've seen Koshi give absolutely 0 fucks as both alignments and I like a few minor comments he made. Overall though, the Ruxxar Lynch on D2 was a fucking travesty because he was far from a good lynch then. Not lynching VA was much tougher IMO; I don't think there were any slam dunk cases around. We maybe could've pulled a lurker lynch for SL, but past that IDK. There weren't any slam dunk cases on D1 and there were a number of people who allowed the lurker scum to not be easy policy lynches.
Like here's the thing Rels. If you start playing and start to look towny on D2, you've helped scum get a more favorable lynch on D1. On D1, I think Rels, SL, Koshi, TW, Tina and maybe EC could've all been solid lynches as Lurker + questionable play. On D2, Rels removed himself from that list; maybe EC did too. IDK, I feel really good and bad about my EC reads this game (which I'm ok with since I haven't seen him before). IMO, the most important thing you can do as town is to remove yourself from the lynch list. If all townies are obviously town, then finding the right person to lynch becomes super easy. Even if they're just reasonably townie, people will find reasons to lynch someone else. Ruxxar D2 was a huge mistake I felt. Not there to defend himself, everyone had been talking about others the whole day phase...very strange lynch.
I didn't really want to lynch ruxxar, but for me: 1) wasn't me, and I was a little selfish because of cop, and 2) it was still another null that I had at the moment. Overall not the worst I think.
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Thanks to the hosts, think it was a well run game! 
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Obviously koshi would have been better lol, if ruxxar had been in thread it might have gone off too.
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On July 27 2017 03:11 geript wrote:
Not lynching Koshi D2 was a major mistake. I should've been all over that band wagon. My problem is that I've seen Koshi give absolutely 0 fucks as both alignments and I like a few minor comments he made. Overall though, the Ruxxar Lynch on D2 was a fucking travesty because he was far from a good lynch then. Not lynching VA was much tougher IMO; I don't think there were any slam dunk cases around. We maybe could've pulled a lurker lynch for SL, but past that IDK. There weren't any slam dunk cases on D1 and there were a number of people who allowed the lurker scum to not be easy policy lynches.
Like here's the thing Rels. If you start playing and start to look towny on D2, you've helped scum get a more favorable lynch on D1. On D1, I think Rels, SL, Koshi, TW, Tina and maybe EC could've all been solid lynches as Lurker + questionable play. On D2, Rels removed himself from that list; maybe EC did too. IDK, I feel really good and bad about my EC reads this game (which I'm ok with since I haven't seen him before). IMO, the most important thing you can do as town is to remove yourself from the lynch list. If all townies are obviously town, then finding the right person to lynch becomes super easy. Even if they're just reasonably townie, people will find reasons to lynch someone else.
You were way too tunneled on me  Honestly I still don't know why you think I was scum this game. To me it seemed like because of things revolving around Skynx's case, that I think I explained a dozen times lol
I think I played pretty good up to the end of night 1, after that I just kind of did my job imo.
A note on the VA lynch for me: I play about 1 game of mafia every 6 or so months, so when I play I actually want to play. When someone does some bs and gives up it annoys me quite a bit, then the defense of "no one reads me correctly", well then may as well kill you now since at best you're just going to be a null all game. I have 0 remorse about lynching VA.
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You played really towny until you tmid like crazy with your rels/tw/sl scum team and I thought you were mafia because thinking there's a cop would have been silly
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EC, you were different. I think part of it may be different play because you're blue (often blue and red appear similar to me at least). Part of it was definitely your approach to the Skynx case. Part of it was your reaction to the mason claim. Once you claimed cop, your play made total sense.
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i find myself liking va reads/analysis but having trouble reading him just the same. smart guy. hard to read
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I've been having the itch to play again lately, so I wound up following a good chunk of this game.
Town played pretty well imo, and Rels did an amazing job nailing SL in the end. Emps claim put the nail in his coffin, but I thought Rels case and SL's reaction should have been enough to show SL was the last scum.
I don't want to dig too much into the sexism discussion as I feel you all have done it justice for the most part already. However, I felt like Rsoul's request was totally valid and very much outside of the scope of a mafia game. The responses some of you made to her were extremely belittling and really should not be tolerated. Regardless of someone's alignment a request for people to stop a behavior that is offensive should be taken seriously, such things are totally NAI in my opinion so that argument is kinda bullshit imo.
While I think Hosts should be notified/aware of when such things are going on the responsibility is not solely on their shoulders. It is everyone's responsibility to keep the environment in game from becoming toxic and discriminatory. Winning a game is not a valid excuse to be an asshole. Especially when this community has been apparently slowly dying already.
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yea I came back for 2 games and played horribly in both my bad.
thanks hosts
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On July 27 2017 02:14 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2017 02:03 rsoultin wrote:On July 27 2017 02:00 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2017 01:36 Holyflare wrote:
I thought I played quite towny lol? Your reads were all over the place. I felt like at some point you had called everyone town and scum. Basically it looks like you're doing something when you're not. Flailing your arms around and puffing your chest, but ultimately there's no dedication or commitment. In my eyes that's quite scummy. I actually find reevaluation towny, ruxxy ^^ especially when people have strong opinions one way or the other earlier Sure, but when people flip their reads from town to scum to town as quick as the bat of an eye, it doesn't feel like their reads carry any weight. This generates the feeling of light town/scum lean hedging where you always leave yourself an escape route as scum. Which is the complete opposite of my mafia meta of hounding people till they get lynched :D
From what I remember this is very true. I'll give you that
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And to people saying my lynch was bad:
It was 90% my own fault.
My day 2 play was atrocious.
I couldn't present myself with an honest towny appearance as long as I was scum reading hf and koshi.
When HF even wanted to lynch koshi, i was checkmated and sidelined.
I'll try to be stronger next time and overcome these mental blocks of mine.
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On July 27 2017 07:01 ruXxar wrote:
And to people saying my lynch was bad:
It was 90% my own fault.
My day 2 play was atrocious.
I couldn't present myself with an honest towny appearance as long as I was scum reading hf and koshi.
When HF even wanted to lynch koshi, i was checkmated and sidelined.
I'll try to be stronger next time and overcome these mental blocks of mine.
I think you may do well to try to restrain your posting a bit more.
I felt you would post any and every thought that crossed your mind and that led to you constantly contradicting yourself or loosing your train of thought. It was what caused multiple people to stop and ask wtf you were doing half the time.
On the one hand posting freely and not holding back is very towny, but sometimes when you post everything you think it ends up flooding the game and your filter with conflicting drivel.
I'm not saying you should hold back posting your thoughts, but take a few moments before hitting post to think of what you are posting is adding to the game or not.
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On July 27 2017 07:40 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2017 07:01 ruXxar wrote:
And to people saying my lynch was bad:
It was 90% my own fault.
My day 2 play was atrocious.
I couldn't present myself with an honest towny appearance as long as I was scum reading hf and koshi.
When HF even wanted to lynch koshi, i was checkmated and sidelined.
I'll try to be stronger next time and overcome these mental blocks of mine. I think you may do well to try to restrain your posting a bit more. I felt you would post any and every thought that crossed your mind and that led to you constantly contradicting yourself or loosing your train of thought. It was what caused multiple people to stop and ask wtf you were doing half the time. On the one hand posting freely and not holding back is very towny, but sometimes when you post everything you think it ends up flooding the game and your filter with conflicting drivel. I'm not saying you should hold back posting your thoughts, but take a few moments before hitting post to think of what you are posting is adding to the game or not.
I can't help myself.
When I play mafia I play mafia.
I just feel like posting my thoughts and talking to people.
I know this isn't always conducive to good mafia play, but playing mafia has to be entertaining to keep me playing.
I keep myself entertained by posting stuff and being engaged.
Which basically ends up with me making lots of filler posts in between my regular objective based posts.
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On July 27 2017 03:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2017 03:39 beentheredonethat wrote:On July 27 2017 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2017 03:25 beentheredonethat wrote:On July 27 2017 03:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2017 03:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
Basically, I reacted to the discussion with "stop it immediately" and I hope it kinda worked. ??? On July 15 2017 18:02 beentheredonethat wrote:
Stop that discussion right now, everyone. Not sure what you mean with those question marks, rayn. There was a lot of back and forth PM'ing in the background going on. I mean that 100% of the stuff had already gone off before that post of yours. That's correct. That's why I said previously that I don't have 24/7 availability. I'm not saying that I solved it, I just summed up my in thread reaction. Keep in mind there was quite the PM war going on in the meantime . yeah but you were still able to do votecounts and even a night post.
What's your point?
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On July 27 2017 08:16 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2017 03:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2017 03:39 beentheredonethat wrote:On July 27 2017 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2017 03:25 beentheredonethat wrote:On July 27 2017 03:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2017 03:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
Basically, I reacted to the discussion with "stop it immediately" and I hope it kinda worked. ??? On July 15 2017 18:02 beentheredonethat wrote:
Stop that discussion right now, everyone. Not sure what you mean with those question marks, rayn. There was a lot of back and forth PM'ing in the background going on. I mean that 100% of the stuff had already gone off before that post of yours. That's correct. That's why I said previously that I don't have 24/7 availability. I'm not saying that I solved it, I just summed up my in thread reaction. Keep in mind there was quite the PM war going on in the meantime . yeah but you were still able to do votecounts and even a night post. What's your point?
That you reacted to the discussion with "stop it immediately" when it was already over, but you had time to do that earlier if you wanted to since you had time to do votecounts and a night post. So you actually didn't react to it when it was relevant. I mean i don't blame you for not finding it relevant to react to it at the time but don't try to basically say you "would have if i could have" since you definitely could have.
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