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why has your playstyle miraculously deviated from your plan koshi?
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On July 17 2017 03:27 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 03:21 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 03:17 Tumblewood wrote:On July 17 2017 03:11 Koshi wrote:
TW do you have a scumread? you. and i thought hf had a redcheck on rels so he was hard scum, but now i don't know what's what with that So you missed all the posts in which people blamed hf for fakeclaiming, the hf fakeclaim post itself and then all other posts about that. Cool. So how did you catch up? started off strong, finished strong, skipped every other page in the middle. so i've seen hf posting about how he wouldn't fakeclaim cop, people discussing a fakeclaim in mild confusion, people yelling about mason/cop setups, and some votes. and i could reread pages 89-93 but i'm on mobile and not interested in doing that
perhaps you should read them instead
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rels just got off red check and left didn't he?
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On July 17 2017 03:29 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 03:28 Holyflare wrote:
rels just got off red check and left didn't he? Go check steam friendlist
playing battlerite innit
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On July 17 2017 03:44 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 03:38 Holyflare wrote:On July 17 2017 03:29 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 03:28 Holyflare wrote:
rels just got off red check and left didn't he? Go check steam friendlist playing battlerite innit it was joke
did the innit not make it sound like a joke reply?
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On July 17 2017 03:49 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 03:38 Holyflare wrote:On July 17 2017 03:29 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 03:28 Holyflare wrote:
rels just got off red check and left didn't he? Go check steam friendlist playing battlerite innit So we still lynch him. I see zero reason to not do so.
because like I said before he did this last game as town too
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On July 17 2017 03:50 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 19:43 ruXxar wrote:On July 16 2017 19:30 emperorchampion wrote:On July 16 2017 19:19 ruXxar wrote:On July 16 2017 16:55 emperorchampion wrote:
@ ruxxar: do you remember if you had a town lock on tumble first, or him with you? Please explain why that is important to you. I think that one of the reads could be a buddying attempt since there's an ok chance one of you are scum. Tumbles read seems a bit more suspicious at the moment given his most recent reply. To me seems possible that tumble gives you town lock as scum to help build allies with players that are in weaker situations. I can see that. I know I look bad for my defending of VA, so I'm a hypocrite for saying this, but I think TW also looks bad for his supposed town read on VA. I wouldn't say it's definitely mafia though, since I'm town and reached the same conclusion. What most bothers me about TW, is how little doubt he has about any of his reads. His reads are static and non evolving as the game progresses. Most notably very few ingame events makes him reconsider his reads, which means that his reads are locked regardless of what we do. That is a sign of someone with TMI aka mafia. Goddamnit Ruxxar. This is exactly what I said about TW....
dude doesn't remember any of his reads
doesn't even remember he 100% scum reads you
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On July 17 2017 03:51 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 03:42 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 03:37 ruXxar wrote:On July 17 2017 03:34 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 03:29 ruXxar wrote:Koshi did you read my case on TW? + Show Spoiler +On July 16 2017 10:52 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 09:53 geript wrote:
@HF. I'd like to get your opinion on TW. IMO, he looks like a great flip (better than Rux). He seems to have a lot of opinions without many suppositions. Many of those opinions are correct and I don't think he was more than mediocre when I've played with him previously. I'm reviewing my read on TW, who I previously had as lock town. The reason for my lock town read, was a very strong tone and meta read from his first list post. After now reviewing his filter again, my opinion on him has changed from locked town to free agent. Here is one of my findings on why my opinion changed: Here he says who he wants to lynch due to his Poe. But more importantly he mentions the *order* in which he wants to lynch. Indicating that this is his strongest scum reads from left to right: Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 14:51 Tumblewood wrote:
the scary thing is i don't think hf is obvious mafia this game. idk what that's supposed to mean but i don't think i want to lynch him today
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actually looking at the playerlist, if you remove everyone i had some reason to not wanna lynch today it's only 4 people. and that's ec/va/rels/koshi. so imma lynch into them in that order(ish) and then after than idk
but if i wanna actually be decent i'll have to filter people. tomorrow (TM) HOWEVER. When I question him later why EC is his primary scum read(as indicated from the post above), this is the response I get: Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 01:52 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 01:50 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 01:46 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 00:52 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 00:49 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 00:31 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 00:28 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 00:25 ruXxar wrote:
VA. Tumblewood, rels.
Please vote. What? TW was 100 town???? Yes? What did he do wrong? What did Rels do wrong? They haven't voted yet. chill, i have like 5 hours left to do this Why is EC scum? i didn't say he is. i said he was one of four people i had no reason to townread, and right now i am filtering him I find it suspicious that before even filtering his *primary* scum read, he has already determined the order in which he want to lynch his scum reads. This tells me that he constructed the order in which he wanted to lynch people based on something else than their actual posts in the game. This could be mafia wanting to push a lynch agenda suited to third agenda. It really seemed to catch TW off-guard to be questioned about this, when he should've already had his reasons clear to him on the lynch order if he was town. I read it but just kept in the back of my mind as "possible true". Rereading it now, I like the a lot. Shows TW is not finding mafia and just going with the flow this game.
And now I am pretty sure about the fact TW is somebody who does not care about how people perceive him but about solving the game. If needed on his own. What does this mean? That in this game TW is not solving the game. Which for him is the fun part. His only scumread is me and I don't even know why. Probably thread sentiment. Explain what changed your mind to now reach this conclusion of being so sure. Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 03:34 Koshi wrote:
And now I am pretty sure about the fact TW is somebody who does not care about how people perceive him but about solving the game. If needed on his own.
he did explain that in general tw is like that but isn't like that in this game
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On July 17 2017 04:09 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 04:07 ruXxar wrote:On July 17 2017 04:06 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 04:04 ruXxar wrote:On July 17 2017 04:03 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 04:01 ruXxar wrote:On July 17 2017 03:59 Koshi wrote:I said the now because last time I said something about TW and that was incorrect ↓. But this time I am sure I am correct. + Show Spoiler +On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.
Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town. You don't answer my question. Why? Last time I wasn't sure about something I said and this time I was sure. Holy fuck... In which wolrd does it even matter??? So this new surety of TWs play style just manifested itself out of nothing? my brain? and the fact I played a lot with him. So why weren't you she before, but now you are sure? Cuz 1 thing I wasn't sure about. But the other thing I was sure about. It's like: Koshi: I am not sure I ate a banana last week but I think I did. Koshi's mom: No you didn't eat a banana last weak. Koshi: oh ok, but now I am sure about the fact I ate a apple last week.
So let me ask you this. You were wrong about TW's meta in your original post which means you don't even know how he correctly plays or what he posts like. So how do you now know that TW is a confident person that says his reads and doesn't care how he looks if you didn't know the first time?
ALSO isn't this read the exact same as what you're scum reading TW for about how he forced a read onto VA about him being excited and town? It looks the same to me.
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perhaps you're misunderstanding
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On July 17 2017 03:34 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 03:29 ruXxar wrote:Koshi did you read my case on TW? + Show Spoiler +On July 16 2017 10:52 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 09:53 geript wrote:
@HF. I'd like to get your opinion on TW. IMO, he looks like a great flip (better than Rux). He seems to have a lot of opinions without many suppositions. Many of those opinions are correct and I don't think he was more than mediocre when I've played with him previously. I'm reviewing my read on TW, who I previously had as lock town. The reason for my lock town read, was a very strong tone and meta read from his first list post. After now reviewing his filter again, my opinion on him has changed from locked town to free agent. Here is one of my findings on why my opinion changed: Here he says who he wants to lynch due to his Poe. But more importantly he mentions the *order* in which he wants to lynch. Indicating that this is his strongest scum reads from left to right: Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 14:51 Tumblewood wrote:
the scary thing is i don't think hf is obvious mafia this game. idk what that's supposed to mean but i don't think i want to lynch him today
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actually looking at the playerlist, if you remove everyone i had some reason to not wanna lynch today it's only 4 people. and that's ec/va/rels/koshi. so imma lynch into them in that order(ish) and then after than idk
but if i wanna actually be decent i'll have to filter people. tomorrow (TM) HOWEVER. When I question him later why EC is his primary scum read(as indicated from the post above), this is the response I get: Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 01:52 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 01:50 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 01:46 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 00:52 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 00:49 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 00:31 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 00:28 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 00:25 ruXxar wrote:
VA. Tumblewood, rels.
Please vote. What? TW was 100 town???? Yes? What did he do wrong? What did Rels do wrong? They haven't voted yet. chill, i have like 5 hours left to do this Why is EC scum? i didn't say he is. i said he was one of four people i had no reason to townread, and right now i am filtering him I find it suspicious that before even filtering his *primary* scum read, he has already determined the order in which he want to lynch his scum reads. This tells me that he constructed the order in which he wanted to lynch people based on something else than their actual posts in the game. This could be mafia wanting to push a lynch agenda suited to third agenda. It really seemed to catch TW off-guard to be questioned about this, when he should've already had his reasons clear to him on the lynch order if he was town. I read it but just kept in the back of my mind as "possible true". Rereading it now, I like the a lot. Shows TW is not finding mafia and just going with the flow this game. And now I am pretty sure about the fact TW is somebody who does not care about how people perceive him but about solving the game. If needed on his own.
THIS is how you define TW's town game, correct?
Right, so now you are saying this whereas previously you said this:
On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.
Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town.
So you've gone somehow from TW not being someone to make those reads into TW being someone that makes those reads and doesn't care how he looks (as town) out of thin air.
Where did that switch come from?
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And how does he display solving the game as town koshi if you don't know how he plays town to begin with as outlined by your first quote when you say he doesn't speak in absolutes?
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On July 17 2017 04:29 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 04:28 Holyflare wrote:
And how does he display solving the game as town koshi if you don't know how he plays town to begin with as outlined by your first quote when you say he doesn't speak in absolutes? I actually do know how he plays as town because I played a ton of games with him. I just didn't know that fact for sure. AS I FUCKING SAID.
you said only mafia plays in absolutes (which is an absolute and therefore you're mafia) but actually TW as town plays in absolutes too so you have no idea what you're talking about and made up false meta
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like I don't give a shit, TW is probably mafia, I'm getting the read on you because you're just pulling stuff out your butt from thin air and making it fit
smells like bus land to me
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On July 17 2017 04:33 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 04:32 Holyflare wrote:On July 17 2017 04:29 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 04:28 Holyflare wrote:
And how does he display solving the game as town koshi if you don't know how he plays town to begin with as outlined by your first quote when you say he doesn't speak in absolutes? I actually do know how he plays as town because I played a ton of games with him. I just didn't know that fact for sure. AS I FUCKING SAID. you said only mafia plays in absolutes (which is an absolute and therefore you're mafia) but actually TW as town plays in absolutes too so you have no idea what you're talking about and made up false meta While I said "I am not sure if he plays like this" So I didn't try to push false meta in the game. I just cba to check it because I thought I was right. I fucking said: "I AM NOT SURE ABOUT THIS BUT"
I AM NOT SURE ABOUT THIS WRONG META THAT WAS POINTED OUT TO ME BEFOREHAND BUT here is my read that states TW is not solving the game like his town meta and is therefore mafia.
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On July 17 2017 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
like I don't give a shit, TW is probably mafia, I'm getting the read on you because you're just pulling stuff out your butt from thin air and making it fit
smells like bus land to me
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It's not horrible it's the objective truth. I think you're stuck in a corner and can't play to your self imposed ban because it's evidently not working out for you and so had to start bussing your team mate.
You were going to be the lynch today barring the cop claim and all you've really given us is this tw thing which already existed and he was going to get lynched after you. Basically nothing new.
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Yeh so how do I auto the third without my best friend vivax?
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Rels if you are green why are you not 100x over lynching ruxxar?
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