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[M][T]Who wants to Murder a Millionaire Mafia

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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-10 15:02:52
June 15 2017 19:03 GMT
#1
NVM GAME CANCELED
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Rsoultin and vacancy are my cohosts. Please expect them to do all the work for me.
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Previous games in this series:
Cell Mini Mafia
Cell Mini Mafia II
Cell Mini Mafia III
Who wants to be a millionaire cell mini mafia



Who wants to murder a Millionaire Cell Mini Mafia

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Setup
The setup contains either 9 or 15 players. 1 in 3 are Mafia. All players are divided into cells of 2 town players and 1 mafia player. After a game host election decides the order of the groups, each group comes up for lynch one at a time. All players alive may vote on the person within the group up for lynch whom they want to vote.

When day starts, players vote for one of the three players alive within the cell. If a mafia player is lynched, town gains a point. If a town player is lynched, mafia gains a point. The first team, Town or Mafia, to get three players of the opposing team lynched wins the game.

In this setup, only the player that gets lynched is flipped. The other two players that were still alive in the setup are removed from the game without a flip. It is strictly prohibited that they give hints towards their allegiance after the flip has occurred if the player was town. A simple "gg" is all that is allowed. I will seek a ban if you break this rule.

Game Host
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The Game Host is elected at the start of the game, on a 24-hour Day 1. He or she may elect the order of the cells. In addition, the host has up to two options available.

Ask the Audience
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When used, the Obs QT is asked to submit comments on whom they believe is mafia. Random comments will be copied from the Obs QT related to the current cell. It will not be revealed whom made these comments.

50:50
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This helpline is only available in a 15 player game. The 50:50 may be applied during the first 24 hours of any cell, and confirms one of the two town players in a cell as an innocent child at random. This ability may not be used on the last cell.

The Shot
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In this version, mafia may shoot any one player in any cell other than the last cell during any day switch. That player will have their alignment flipped. NOTE: If the 50:50 was used before The Shot is used, The Shot does not reveal the alignment of the shot player, and players may vote for this slot.

The Veto
Anytime before the end of Day 1, the mafia team may submit one cell to the hosts. The chosen cell will not be allowed to be placed last in the order of cells. The veto will not be published.

Q&A
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Q: Can players that aren't in the current group for lynch vote?
A: Yes. So for Day 2 (the first lynch day), all 15 alive players will vote. After that, there will be 12 players left on Day 3, 9 on Day 4, et cetera.
Q: Can the mafia communicate?
A: Yes, they can communicate privately as normal.
Q: Can everyone talk during all phases?
A: Players can talk during the day phases. There is a short phase after the mayor is elected, which is silent.
Q: When does Town win, and when does Mafia win?
A: Either faction wins when they lynch 3 players of the other faction.
Q: Are there any blue roles in this game?
A: There are no blue roles other than the Game Host, which is elected.
Q: What happens to the Game Host powers if he is removed from the game?
A: The Game Host can only use the 50/50 and call the audience powers whilst he is in the game. Should his cell conclude before all powers are used, they are voided.
Q: What will happen in case of a modkill?
A: If it's at all possible, the player will be replaced. If it isn't, the cell with the modkilled slot will be moved to the front unflipped, and the option to lynch that slot will be made available.
Q: When can The Shot be used?
A: The Shot can be used anytime from the end of Day 1 until the beginning of the fourth cell. It can be used on any player in any cell but the last cell in the order.


Standard Rules
This game follows the Ban List and utilizes the Standard Rules unless otherwise stated.

Game Specific Rules
  • The deadline will be set at 21:59 GMT (+00:00).
  • All days other than day 1 will last 48 hours. Day 1 will last 24 hours.
  • The system is a plurality lynch system. Players become the lynch target when they have more votes than anyone else.
  • Voting is mandatory. Failure to vote once will result in a warning both ingame and in the banlist. Failure to vote twice will result in a modkill and a ban. Use the vote thread to vote.
  • Hydras are allowed providing no one objects. Smurfs must PM me beforehand with their identity, but are allowed. If you're coaching/shadowing a player in the game, please PM it to me beforehand as well.
  • Wisdom of the Crowds is active for this game. If there's someone you don't want to play with, please PM me. If I receive enough complaints for a single player, I will remove them from the player list.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-10 14:53:49
June 15 2017 19:03 GMT
#2
GAME ABORTED
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
June 15 2017 19:20 GMT
#3
/in!!
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 16 2017 01:57 GMT
#4
/in

Jameson still best whiskey

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where do I find Talisker in USA
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 16 2017 06:12 GMT
#5
I'd love to play but I'm super worried that I won't understand the rules
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 16 2017 08:49 GMT
#6
Let this game type die ffs.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-16 12:18:30
June 16 2017 12:17 GMT
#7
On June 16 2017 15:12 beentheredonethat wrote:
I'd love to play but I'm super worried that I won't understand the rules

I would suggest scrolling through the previous game. Its not as complicated as it may seem!
On June 16 2017 17:49 Holyflare wrote:
Let this game type die ffs.

Its actually back by popular (or at least darthfoley) demand though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 16 2017 12:21 GMT
#8
Curse you, Darthfoley!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 16 2017 13:46 GMT
#9
/out.

Time constraints
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
June 16 2017 14:48 GMT
#10
On June 16 2017 21:21 Holyflare wrote:
Curse you, Darthfoley!


Don't play then ya goober!
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 16 2017 21:48 GMT
#11
/in Assuming this starts after next Thursday.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 19 2017 21:02 GMT
#12
/out
/sit out
Will explain later.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 21 2017 23:24 GMT
#13
/obs
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 25 2017 20:36 GMT
#14
Bump
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
June 26 2017 13:31 GMT
#15
guess it's not happening lol
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 26 2017 16:19 GMT
#16
/in
good times for all
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 26 2017 19:55 GMT
#17
TBH cell is a very mafia favored setup. It seems like it shouldn't be, but there are two aspects which lead to this. First, as town you can never get ahead; you always lose two town when you lynch correctly. Second, it's exceptionally easy for mafia to gain control of the ordering; that's a huge advantage for controlling the voice in the game. Third, there's no real comeback mechanic for town if they get behind. Last day most important, it is terribly easy for scum to force two mislymches early; in that case, you're at lylo and still can't confirm many things. Armani's I know you love the idea, but just let it die.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
June 26 2017 22:53 GMT
#18
/replace
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 28 2017 09:06 GMT
#19
On June 27 2017 04:55 geript wrote:
TBH cell is a very mafia favored setup. It seems like it shouldn't be, but there are two aspects which lead to this. First, as town you can never get ahead; you always lose two town when you lynch correctly. Second, it's exceptionally easy for mafia to gain control of the ordering; that's a huge advantage for controlling the voice in the game. Third, there's no real comeback mechanic for town if they get behind. Last day most important, it is terribly easy for scum to force two mislymches early; in that case, you're at lylo and still can't confirm many things. Armani's I know you love the idea, but just let it die.

A) I hosted this game at a request
B) That's wrong.
C) As you believe the game is incredibly mafia favored and Rayn believes the game is incredibly town favoured, I would invite you both to join the game and prove your point. Failing that, please don't dissuade people from joining for no reason.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 28 2017 11:08 GMT
#20
or pad your stats with ez mafia win
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
June 28 2017 14:53 GMT
#21
On June 28 2017 18:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On June 27 2017 04:55 geript wrote:
TBH cell is a very mafia favored setup. It seems like it shouldn't be, but there are two aspects which lead to this. First, as town you can never get ahead; you always lose two town when you lynch correctly. Second, it's exceptionally easy for mafia to gain control of the ordering; that's a huge advantage for controlling the voice in the game. Third, there's no real comeback mechanic for town if they get behind. Last day most important, it is terribly easy for scum to force two mislymches early; in that case, you're at lylo and still can't confirm many things. Armani's I know you love the idea, but just let it die.

A) I hosted this game at a request
B) That's wrong.
C) As you believe the game is incredibly mafia favored and Rayn believes the game is incredibly town favoured, I would invite you both to join the game and prove your point. Failing that, please don't dissuade people from joining for no reason.


yea i love how they both are so adamant in opposite directions
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-28 17:18:13
June 28 2017 17:16 GMT
#22
I sucked at the first two i played and solved the last game on D1 in the obs QT.
I don't like the setup at all, especially with the special mechanics. I also don't like the way people play the game and i don't wanna play a game where i think people play it "wrong".
table for two on a tv tray
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
June 28 2017 17:45 GMT
#23
Fair enough. To each his own
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 28 2017 19:09 GMT
#24
And i dont dissuade anyone to join. I havent even posted in this thread before my last post.
table for two on a tv tray
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 28 2017 20:11 GMT
#25
He was talking to me Rayn. It is kinda curious how closely Rayn and I usually see things to come out so vastly different on this setup. I think it's perhaps a difference in how we approach and see games.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-29 04:21:50
June 29 2017 04:15 GMT
#26
On June 29 2017 05:11 geript wrote:
He was talking to me Rayn. It is kinda curious how closely Rayn and I usually see things to come out so vastly different on this setup. I think it's perhaps a difference in how we approach and see games.

The problem isn't that the setup is scumfavored. The problem is (as i wrote in the last game's obs QT) that the game is actually way easier than a normal game of mafia. It is a statistical fact due to every lynch randomly having a 33% chance of hitting mafia (50% if you are in the said cell). Towns just doesn't know how to play it properly. There is ALSO an extended D1...

Basically people make or try to make reads on stuff that is purely game mechanics and what you can't really make reads from (at least accurate lol). People also focus on talking about stuff that doesn't further town winning the game. Idk why that happens in every single cell game, probably because the game type is new to our mafia (i know i am guilty of same mistake in my first game).

Basically a good comparison would be that towns try to solve the game by rolehunting when it's an all vanilla game....
Unless i did the math incorrectly town should have a 24% chance of winning the game by randomly lynching every day.... Add a 50/50 there and the chance is even higher.
table for two on a tv tray
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 04 2017 05:35 GMT
#27
If no one new signs up by Friday I'll cancel the game
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 04 2017 06:39 GMT
#28
/in
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
July 04 2017 20:55 GMT
#29
/in
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
July 05 2017 20:11 GMT
#30
/sitout

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"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 06 2017 11:52 GMT
#31
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"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 06 2017 12:26 GMT
#32

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table for two on a tv tray
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
July 10 2017 06:23 GMT
#33
/out
good times for all
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
July 10 2017 06:31 GMT
#34
I think my MS Paint Masterpieces speak for themselves.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
July 10 2017 14:53 GMT
#35
Aborting game due to lack of interest to make room for new games.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
July 10 2017 18:38 GMT
#36
On July 10 2017 23:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Aborting game due to lack of interest to make room for new games.


oh well. was worth a shot. thanks!
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