[M][N] I'm a cop you idiot mafia --- the reboot - Page 27

On December 11 2016 16:58 ExO_ wrote:
But I know that you can't be scum, because if CR was actually town the game would've been over already after I voted for him. I know you have to be telling the truth because of that fact alone. But Jesus Christ dude sometimes you say things that look scummy as hell.

On December 12 2016 03:16 Tumblewood wrote:
AND BY THE WAY NOT CONSIDERING OTHER OPTIONS IS NIT STRICTLY SCUM.

On December 12 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:

also your "ExO is not considering other options" thing doesn't even work because if you are me or ExO you can determine that ray's partner can only be you or NU, and if you have half a brain you can determine that NU is town

On December 07 2016 00:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
Why are there suggestions for the cop to claim during D1? Why not end of N1 when theres a chance at 2 checks?

let me earn towncred by showing you the correct answer

"this is the correct play, you fools"

I am going to plant this bluetell for the scum team to find

On December 08 2016 03:27 Hopeless1der wrote:
cakepie is it okay if I just sheep you today?

I townread you. Your case is good. Based on my reading of the thread, all the bases have been covered. I have nothing to add or subtract. Let me sheep you.

I have a towncheck on you        or        I have a scumcheck on your target (TW)

On December 08 2016 03:37 cakepie wrote:

No.

I am able to read between the lines. Please tell me more.

On December 08 2016 03:43 Hopeless1der wrote:


k well I either want to lynch TW or no-lynch today.

I have no other lynch candidates.

I have a towncheck on you        or        I have a scumcheck on your target

On December 08 2016 03:46 cakepie wrote:
Like wtf H1, at least try. Maybe we've exhausted the available material on TW, but tell me something about NU or ExO or CRay.

I am pretending to be incredulous. If you're telling me my case is solid, I got it. Can you help me out with these?

On December 08 2016 04:04 Hopeless1der wrote:
ExO has maintained that the cop should claim. I dont particularly agree, I'd rather tempt fate on a no-lynch and have the cop end-of-night phase post their N0 check, with the possibility of getting a N1 check as well. Besides that, ExO is doing a poor job of actually reading the thread, and I'm not sure where that falls on the scummy/stupid scale so I dont want to pursue a lynch there.

You are wrong to tunneltown ExO, you idiot. Here's why he is being anti-town. That makes him scum or bad VT. You are bad VT for not knowing the correct strategy. Don't lose us the game!
Also, see how he isn't actually responding to people that are talking to him? He's only obsessed with attacking Ray's case.

I like CR's posts, his suspicions, questions, justifications for everything are well reasoned and show appropriate suspicion.

He's town. He's scumhunting poorly and taking flak for it -- I know you know because I see you have posted concerns about it -- but I think there's some merit to what he's saying.

TW is scum. ExO is scum or badVT. You're bad VT. NU is scum or badVT for N0 plan stuff.
I'm VT pretending to be cop -- if you don't see this message now, you will when I flip town.
By PoE, CR is the cop. I think he is pushing his read so hard because he redchecked NU.

I do not like NU's overly defensive tone following the daypost when CR accused TW/NU of hiding behind poorly reasoned math.
+ Show Spoiler [#86] +

Especially the 2nd paragraph in the above spoiler, it reads to me as less about NU being one of the targets and more about CR having more than one target, when they're being accused with same reasoning. Why would CR be inclined to single someone out in this scenario? To me, there's no reason for it and NU's post comes off as contrived to me.

you are worried that CR is tarring both TW and NU with the same brush, since you mindmeld NU on TW buddying and townlean NU. But I know CR is cop. If he claims N0 redcheck on TW, you must believe him.

As you said, most of the TW material has been covered so I'll skip over it. Also, I think you're town.

My vote preferences are:
1-No-Lynch
2-TW
3-NU
4-ExO
5-CR
6-cake
7-me

look here, cakepie. if you can see this message, you will wonder why I don't townlean NU like you do. that's because I strongly believe CR N0 redchecked TW.

On December 08 2016 04:26 cakepie wrote:
You've given me some insight into something that was of interest to me. Thanks.
[...]

I got (some) of your secret message. Follow up questions...

On December 08 2016 04:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
Re: CR - I wouldn't dismiss the notion out of hand, but its not high on my gutcheck rating. Being able to come out on blue-planning is a really safe way for mafia to seem invested without actually doing anything. That is only compounded by the fact that our doc got shot first, rendering a huge portion of N0 reasoning useless for the purposes of planning. CR is at least trying to use those posts to get reads.

I agree it's unlikely. but it's not impossible. Do you see that CR is trying to squeeze information out of koshi's death where no one else is doing so?

On December 08 2016 04:57 cakepie wrote:
[*]H1 thanks for our brief exchange. Please work with the others while I'm asleep.

On December 09 2016 03:07 cakepie wrote:
@NU re H1
The 'cute' (?) thing about H1 is that bit asking permission to sheep. When I deny permission, 124/126 pretty precisely hit upon topics I want people's opinions on, and things I might have missed. There's some level of "I agree with you on these things" coupled with "here's things you want or that might help you". That seems attentive if nothing else.

On December 10 2016 02:04 cakepie wrote:
I think ExO is derpscum with TW.

I've been suspecting it since here.I thank H1, this was for triggering me to look at ExO. I only had time to take a quick look at his filter before going to bed, but I saw enough to want to call others' attention to it. Reminding NU to filter ExO is a hint for the attentive -- I had not asked for it before, this is a fake reminder.

I've been keeping an eye on TW+ExO interactions ever since.

On December 11 2016 19:48 ExO_ wrote:
This is quite a last ditch scum effort from CP/CR. It's full of some pretty coordinated bullshit I think I've presented myself well, and I think this is very obviously a last ditch effort to win the game.

NU the game is in your hands. These posts from CP/CR are big, but they are full of garbage. Lines like this from CR:

"ExO is seriously considering that you might be mafia, because of a case I presented."

should tell you everything you need to know. ofc I was considering you were mafia. I have to consider every possibility, in particular that my reads might be wrong.

No where in CR's posts does he explain why if he was the cop does he only have 2 pages in his filter. Why he strictly tunneled you and TW the entire game. Why he didn't breadcrumb at all. Why both he and cakepie tried to start a a train on Day 1, when it's clearly an incredible risk to do so instead of just waiting a day.


Compare TWs effort all game long, despite constantly being pressured. His posts all game long. He has at least been trying all game long. CR only shows up now. Is that what a cop would do? Post barely anything and tunnel 2 players all game long?

Don't fall for this last ditch effort by CP/CR NU.

On December 09 2016 04:11 Hopeless1der wrote:

stop asking me real questions..Fine my previous list was wrong. TW-ExO-CR-NU-cake-me

I see that you don't understand that I'm only faking cop. Oh well.

On December 09 2016 06:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
TW was not slammed when 2 people voted him, Either one of the voters (CR and cake) were scum OR TW is scum. Technically its possible that everyone involved is wrong, but fuck that noise, I'm calling TW scum, Good fucking game.

Cop, dont claim until you absolutely have to at end of Nightphase.

If TW claims cop, lynch that piece of garbage. I will not accept him claiming cop this game.

##Unvote##Vote: Tumblewood

I fully understand that this day is going to be a no lynch. I'm like 51/49 on lynhching TW today.

I'm the cop. I have a redcheck on TW. If tomorrow turns out to be him cc me, I will use this as evidence/"crumb" for my N0 TW redcheck.

On December 09 2016 07:12 Hopeless1der wrote:
k so at this point i have a sharp assumption that TW is scum. Any and every question from this point forward will be colored by the assumption that TW is scum. Thank you for your cooperation.

@Cop, my preference would be that you make your claim just before the end of night phase.

Besides that, feel free to tell me why anyone is scum

I am the cop. TW is scum. Thanks!
I will make my claim at EoN
if you want to suggest who to check, let me know!

On December 11 2016 16:20 Chairman Ray wrote:
cakepie you are a fucking HERO. If we end up winning this, it'll all be because of you.

On December 12 2016 04:40 Chairman Ray wrote:
NU, i know theres a lot to go through and not a lot of time, but give it ur best shot. The fact that cakepie made all these great cases shows that he's looking very careful into the game, and is also trying to convince other town to get on board. Exo and TW are not reading into anything and just plainly being around. They're not posting analytical cases and trying to convince others, well except that TW posted a pretty good case on why his greencheck was mafia. These facts should tell you whos the real town and whos the real mafia. If you have any questions for me, let me know.