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Oh, one more thing.
On December 11 2016 13:23 cakepie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2016 13:11 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Your 'generation' has a fetish for posting walls of text That's just me doing it poorly.
Basically, the idea behind it is to throw out all the things that we see that are possibly some kind of read.
Whether it be based on emotion, logic, mistakes, inconsistencies, etc.
The reads may be good or bad. That's fine. They are:
1. Basis for discussion and refinement.
- evaluate everything
- toss out crap
- correct faulty reads
- share interpretations that others missed
2. It's a reaction check:
2a - people who resonate with me on weird things I caught are probably town like me, and it also reinforces the read. (This is why I TR you NU. Coming from the same VT pov, we gut check the same things to be weird.)
2b - people who try to consider both sides of the coin for each component of the case are town.
2cii - targets who only crush the weak reasons and don't/can't address the strong ones are scum (TW)
2cii - for other people, crushing the weak reasons is null UNLESS proxy defense in association read. (ExO)
2d - people with strange reactions are earmarked for attention (ExO saying TW didn't buddy you -- and not explaining it)
2e - if the target addresses a strong part of the read by showing me a good alternative town explanation or town motivation, I can evaluate that explanation on good faith.
Then the whole both sides of the coin for each argument, form a plausible narrative, occam's razor stuff.
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On December 11 2016 13:45 NeverUnlucky wrote:
By "I don't really want a tutorial" I meant I don't want you to teach me how to play. I find this to be very arrogant if you're town and manipulative if you're scum. Keep it to your POV: why in your pov is x scum/town?
Do show me why his flip points to TW and ExO.
Fuck you, you can go ahead and hammer now. Don't waste my time.
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On December 11 2016 13:52 cakepie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2016 13:45 NeverUnlucky wrote:
By "I don't really want a tutorial" I meant I don't want you to teach me how to play. I find this to be very arrogant if you're town and manipulative if you're scum. Keep it to your POV: why in your pov is x scum/town?
Do show me why his flip points to TW and ExO. Fuck you, you can go ahead and hammer now. Don't waste my time.
tilted scum
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On December 11 2016 13:55 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2016 13:52 cakepie wrote:On December 11 2016 13:45 NeverUnlucky wrote:
By "I don't really want a tutorial" I meant I don't want you to teach me how to play. I find this to be very arrogant if you're town and manipulative if you're scum. Keep it to your POV: why in your pov is x scum/town?
Do show me why his flip points to TW and ExO. Fuck you, you can go ahead and hammer now. Don't waste my time. tilted scumtown
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On December 11 2016 13:52 cakepie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2016 13:45 NeverUnlucky wrote:
By "I don't really want a tutorial" I meant I don't want you to teach me how to play. I find this to be very arrogant if you're town and manipulative if you're scum. Keep it to your POV: why in your pov is x scum/town?
Do show me why his flip points to TW and ExO. Fuck you, you can go ahead and hammer now. Don't waste my time.
????
You've just taken an hour of my time and made me miss my movie for this? To tell me that I don't know how to play and to tell me "Fuck you"?
I'm shocked and utterly pissed.
I want to hammer you now, not Ray. Fuck you.
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On December 11 2016 13:56 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2016 13:52 cakepie wrote:On December 11 2016 13:45 NeverUnlucky wrote:
By "I don't really want a tutorial" I meant I don't want you to teach me how to play. I find this to be very arrogant if you're town and manipulative if you're scum. Keep it to your POV: why in your pov is x scum/town?
Do show me why his flip points to TW and ExO. Fuck you, you can go ahead and hammer now. Don't waste my time. ???? You've just taken an hour of my time and made me miss my movie for this? To tell me that I don't know how to play and to tell me "Fuck you"? I'm shocked and utterly pissed. I want to hammer you now, not Ray. Fuck you.
It has to be Ray, ray before anything else.
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On December 11 2016 13:52 cakepie wrote:
Keep it to your POV: why in your pov is x scum/town?
Okay. I will try to show you how I apply 465+475+481 to solve everything.
But you're not really as receptive as you need to be.
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On December 11 2016 14:00 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2016 13:56 NeverUnlucky wrote:On December 11 2016 13:52 cakepie wrote:On December 11 2016 13:45 NeverUnlucky wrote:
By "I don't really want a tutorial" I meant I don't want you to teach me how to play. I find this to be very arrogant if you're town and manipulative if you're scum. Keep it to your POV: why in your pov is x scum/town?
Do show me why his flip points to TW and ExO. Fuck you, you can go ahead and hammer now. Don't waste my time. ???? You've just taken an hour of my time and made me miss my movie for this? To tell me that I don't know how to play and to tell me "Fuck you"? I'm shocked and utterly pissed. I want to hammer you now, not Ray. Fuck you. It has to be Ray, ray before anything else.
Yeah, I know. I wrote that out of anger.
I'm at the point where I'm deleting all the posts I'm drafting cause of toxicity. So, I'll go to bed.
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On December 11 2016 14:02 cakepie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2016 13:52 cakepie wrote:
Keep it to your POV: why in your pov is x scum/town? Okay. I will try to show you how I apply 465+475+481 to solve everything. But you're not really as receptive as you need to be.
Listen, I'm not going to listen to you one bit if you're telling me "Fuck you" and other shit. I don't deserve it. And you don't deserve my attention if this is what you're going to tell me when I've dedicated my time to you "out of good faith".
I'm out.
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NU, I'm sorry I yelled at you and I'm willing to forgive you for yelling back at me.
I triggered really hard that you called me arrogant. Because I've clearly expressed that I'm not the best player or best teacher for showing the ropes to you. I know it might come across as me preaching to you but I'm really not coming at you from a high and mighty position here. We've both been bad this game. It's just that I'm a bad but improving player trying to help fellow town improve. Because we might just be able to win this.
I do appreciate that you realized you were straying into toxicity and held back.
And I think that we both got too caught up in the heat of the moment here.
For you to go to bed and come back later hopefully with a fresh mind is actually good for us here.
It also gives me time to write. Cuz holy shit I take a long time to write stuff. People call me out for being scum being overcautious, but it's really a NAI trait for me. So me having time and you not being impatient is better for us.
I'm going to take a break (lunch etc) before coming back to post the things I promised, when I'm less angry at you.
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no hammering of any sort went on, right?
good.
dunno why I'd ever let cakepie tell me how to play; NU actually has more experience if you count that other site.
I've given up on reading everything cakepie says. all of it seems really last-ditch to me — frenzy mode.
if I'm feeling particularly useful I might put together a big ol' post on why ray is scum, and after that I'll answer questions but everything should fall into place by itself. sorry to put so much pressure on you, NU. vote who you think is scum any time you feel ready, as long as it's before two and you vote ray 
and cakepie, please don't kill yourself caring too much about a forum game.
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shit why do I have to convince that you ray is maf. he should've already done that for you by not posting for 20 hours
in remembrance:On December 10 2016 10:05 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2016 10:04 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Ray's claim is way too convenient, and I think TW is the real cop due to my reasoning in 331.
##Vote Chairman Ray
If you hammer, please have the decency of telling your alignment while we wait for the end game post. How did you know game was going to end? SCUMSLIP SCUMSLIP SCUMSLIP
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On December 11 2016 16:07 Tumblewood wrote:shit why do I have to convince that you ray is maf. he should've already done that for you by not posting for 20 hours in remembrance: Show nested quote +On December 10 2016 10:05 Chairman Ray wrote:On December 10 2016 10:04 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Ray's claim is way too convenient, and I think TW is the real cop due to my reasoning in 331.
##Vote Chairman Ray
If you hammer, please have the decency of telling your alignment while we wait for the end game post. How did you know game was going to end? SCUMSLIP SCUMSLIP SCUMSLIP
Thanks dude, I could use that.
Also thanks for collecting the interactions between me and Ray.
You've been unwittingly so helpful -- I don't have to filter so hard now since you're passing me the things I need as I go.
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Ok, I just got back home, catching up on the thread now. Sorry for being away for so long
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cakepie you are a fucking HERO. If we end up winning this, it'll all be because of you. If we lose, it's 100% my fault for being stupid and signing up for a mafia game when I had a day trip today.
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On December 11 2016 16:20 Chairman Ray wrote:
cakepie you are a fucking HERO. If we end up winning this, it'll all be because of you. If we lose, it's 100% my fault for being stupid and signing up for a mafia game when I had a day trip today.
yeah because he's your fucking teammate
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On December 11 2016 16:32 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2016 16:20 Chairman Ray wrote:
cakepie you are a fucking HERO. If we end up winning this, it'll all be because of you. If we lose, it's 100% my fault for being stupid and signing up for a mafia game when I had a day trip today. yeah because he's your fucking teammate
You know it's true.
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I've put in the work this game and I'm tired of wading through crap. it's seriously tedious how much you guys are posting to try and save yourselves. please end it sooner rather than later >.<
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the worst part about it all is I can't gloat yet
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On December 11 2016 16:48 Tumblewood wrote:
the worst part about it all is I can't gloat yet
this kind of talk really unsettles me
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