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ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 11 2016 20:14 GMT
#561
Like I was worried about tomorrow making the decision between you and CP, but he was so all-in on CR that I thought there's no way in hell he's VT
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
December 11 2016 20:14 GMT
#562
O nvm
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 11 2016 20:15 GMT
#563
CR I want access to your brainwash beam that locked Cakepie in on the wrong thing so hard, that he did all of this for you. Its like CP never even considered the alternatives
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
December 11 2016 20:19 GMT
#564
Im really sorry cakepie if it looked like we we dragged the game way too long. We had good reason to. I know you committed to this game really hard, and sry for making you lose a lot of sleep and get sick. You played a hell of a game
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
December 11 2016 20:21 GMT
#565
Also, NU was a friggin god! Jesus, next Daniel Day Lewis with this acting ability.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 11 2016 20:21 GMT
#566
On December 12 2016 05:19 Chairman Ray wrote:
Im really sorry cakepie if it looked like we we dragged the game way too long. We had good reason to. I know you committed to this game really hard, and sry for making you lose a lot of sleep and get sick. You played a hell of a game


Cakepie shit the bed really hard. As VT he got locked in on you being the real cop based on nothing. I'm blown away that he never even considered TW was telling the truth with the mountain of evidence that you were scum.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 11 2016 20:24 GMT
#567
Also that fake claim as town was just fucking horrible. It had no chance of baiting out an actual shot with how late it was, and it took far too long to rescind

Cakepie is really the scum MVP here
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
December 11 2016 20:29 GMT
#568
Endgame

Tumblewood the Cop has been lynched!
NeverUnlucky and Chairman Ray the Mafia Goons have won!
Mafia Victory!



Obs QT: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/3HCpau7MKJtvh
Scum QT: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/WaAxtCc93V4vh
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
December 11 2016 20:30 GMT
#569
On December 12 2016 05:21 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2016 05:19 Chairman Ray wrote:
Im really sorry cakepie if it looked like we we dragged the game way too long. We had good reason to. I know you committed to this game really hard, and sry for making you lose a lot of sleep and get sick. You played a hell of a game


Cakepie shit the bed really hard. As VT he got locked in on you being the real cop based on nothing. I'm blown away that he never even considered TW was telling the truth with the mountain of evidence that you were scum.

There is a time where you respect the immense amount of time and effort someone put in the game and don't bash them for being wrong when that has already been made clear.

That time would be now.
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
December 11 2016 20:34 GMT
#570
On December 12 2016 05:24 ExO_ wrote:
Also that fake claim as town was just fucking horrible. It had no chance of baiting out an actual shot with how late it was, and it took far too long to rescind

Cakepie is really the scum MVP here


Accepted.

Holy shit NU great job.

Time to sleep.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 11 2016 20:34 GMT
#571
On December 12 2016 05:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2016 05:21 ExO_ wrote:
On December 12 2016 05:19 Chairman Ray wrote:
Im really sorry cakepie if it looked like we we dragged the game way too long. We had good reason to. I know you committed to this game really hard, and sry for making you lose a lot of sleep and get sick. You played a hell of a game


Cakepie shit the bed really hard. As VT he got locked in on you being the real cop based on nothing. I'm blown away that he never even considered TW was telling the truth with the mountain of evidence that you were scum.

There is a time where you respect the immense amount of time and effort someone put in the game and don't bash them for being wrong when that has already been made clear.

That time would be now.


I don't think I'm being too harsh. Plus I'm salty about the ending. How can I not be after that ending?

But w/e. gg well played scum
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
December 11 2016 20:35 GMT
#572
To cakepies credit, he got very close to figuring out the game. I dont think anyone else would have considered NU would be scum after I flip, but cakepie got one thing perfectly correct:

On December 10 2016 16:33 cakepie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2016 15:36 Tumblewood wrote:

I'm not lynching you today, not with an absolute certainty on the board. but consider that, if you're town, then exo has to be scum and must be playing a pretty damn good game.


Huh, you might actually care. You could lynch Ray today, and die tonight, and leave us to our devices. But you care (or are pretending to.)

If cop!TW and town!cakepie, it's either ExO or NU with Ray. Don't discount NU with Ray. It's plausible that the following:

- You were selected as D1 target based on N0, and Ray vs NU was a distancing move where Ray has to lynch you to flip you scum and scum NU by association. But we could copcheck you as town and Ray would safely disengage NU. Or we mislynch you and they win. In that sense, Ray v NU isn't even a bus.

- EoD1 may have had NU waiting to hammer you if ExO or H1 voted.

- your crumbs were found, and scum actually opted not to kill cop!TW because:
       - they get to kill conftown in H1
       - you were scumread D1 by H1, me, and ?ExO?
       - with me going after TW+ExO, I'm the weakest link who will mislynch you

- in any event, NU is sent into thread to vote you and get stupidcake to vote you and then Ray hammers

- scum puzzles over my claim for a bit and then figures out I fucked up. Ray formulates his copclaim.

- NU voting ray is ballsy, but they know I will tell NU to unvote.

- This requires NU to be playing very well, but this is the scenario where he has Ray as a very experienced scumbuddy who can guide him.

So you need to consider both ExO and NU.

ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 11 2016 20:35 GMT
#573
On December 12 2016 05:34 cakepie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2016 05:24 ExO_ wrote:
Also that fake claim as town was just fucking horrible. It had no chance of baiting out an actual shot with how late it was, and it took far too long to rescind

Cakepie is really the scum MVP here


Accepted.

Holy shit NU great job.

Time to sleep.


Man you've gotta explain to me wtf happened there. How'd you get so locked in, why the super late fake claim. Those massive wall posts. I'm so blown away right now that you aren't scum after that
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
December 11 2016 20:41 GMT
#574
On December 12 2016 05:35 Chairman Ray wrote:
To cakepies credit, he got very close to figuring out the game. I dont think anyone else would have considered NU would be scum after I flip, but cakepie got one thing perfectly correct:

Show nested quote +
On December 10 2016 16:33 cakepie wrote:
On December 10 2016 15:36 Tumblewood wrote:

I'm not lynching you today, not with an absolute certainty on the board. but consider that, if you're town, then exo has to be scum and must be playing a pretty damn good game.


Huh, you might actually care. You could lynch Ray today, and die tonight, and leave us to our devices. But you care (or are pretending to.)

If cop!TW and town!cakepie, it's either ExO or NU with Ray. Don't discount NU with Ray. It's plausible that the following:

- You were selected as D1 target based on N0, and Ray vs NU was a distancing move where Ray has to lynch you to flip you scum and scum NU by association. But we could copcheck you as town and Ray would safely disengage NU. Or we mislynch you and they win. In that sense, Ray v NU isn't even a bus.

- EoD1 may have had NU waiting to hammer you if ExO or H1 voted.

- your crumbs were found, and scum actually opted not to kill cop!TW because:
       - they get to kill conftown in H1
       - you were scumread D1 by H1, me, and ?ExO?
       - with me going after TW+ExO, I'm the weakest link who will mislynch you

- in any event, NU is sent into thread to vote you and get stupidcake to vote you and then Ray hammers

- scum puzzles over my claim for a bit and then figures out I fucked up. Ray formulates his copclaim.

- NU voting ray is ballsy, but they know I will tell NU to unvote.

- This requires NU to be playing very well, but this is the scenario where he has Ray as a very experienced scumbuddy who can guide him.

So you need to consider both ExO and NU.



Yes.

The point when the game was irretrievably lost was when TW shut the door on me.
If he was more receptive, I maybe maybe maybe I could have sorted it out.


cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
December 11 2016 20:46 GMT
#575
On December 12 2016 05:41 cakepie wrote:
The point when the game was irretrievably lost was when TW shut the door on me.
If he was more receptive, I maybe maybe maybe I could have sorted it out.


Not blaming him or anything, mind you. We'd been TvT so hard and my dumb shenanigans didn't help him trust me at all.



Thanks to hosts and players.

I really really really must sleep now.

GG!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18146 Posts
December 11 2016 20:55 GMT
#576
Ok, so that happened. Well played scum! CR just well enough to convince a townie, and that's all that was needed. And NU well enough to convince all townies

Honestly, though, this game deserves some post-mortem! There was a moment when TW and NU were on CR, and I mentioned to Artanis that CR should just hammer himself and stop town's chance for thinking out the game. But instead scum decided NU should unvote and they went with CR as a countercopclaim gambit. And then town chewed themselves up, because nobody considered for a second that NU was scum.

@ExO_: you blame cakepie for that, but not for a second did you consider the possibility that NU was scum. And you were one of the two players in an amazing place to realize that it should be possible. Cakepie was posting pages and pages of analysis, but hadn't voted. Why would a scum, trying to convince the final remaining townie, not vote and hope that townie hammers? Instead, cakepie was trying to convince with words, but was really hesitant to vote. That was a real clue there that nobody picked up on. And both TW and ExO_ were in position to figure this out, because they knew they were townies themselves (and ExO_ had already figured out that if he was voting for a townie then they would already have been hammered and GG), whereas cakepie was convinced that TW and ExO_ were the scumteam and teamed up to vote for town!CR. Of course, credit goes to NU as well here, who played amazingly as the confused townie dragging his feet.

As for claims: cakepie already realized he shouldn't have fakeclaimed as a VT, and this game is a pretty harsh setup that really really punishes town fakeclaiming (although he would've baited scum into shooting him if he had done it about 5 minutes earlier, and that would have been good). However, it was still unnecessary, because scum was running after H1der's fake bluetells.

Other than that, town got a bit unlucky that the medic got shot on N0.

I promise the roles were 100% random.

Town mvp: nobody, but an honorable mention to cakepie for the huge efforts.
Scum mvp: NU

Links:
ScumQT: https://quicktopic.com/52/H/WaAxtCc93V4vh
ObsQT: https://quicktopic.com/52/H/3HCpau7MKJtvh
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 11 2016 20:57 GMT
#577
I did consider the possibility that NU was scum. I specifically mention this.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 11 2016 21:02 GMT
#578
I just couldn't see CP fake claiming and making these huge wall posts of fake analysis as town. It didn't make sense to me. Plus with the way CP/CR matched voting on Day 1.

I was really looking forward to choosing between NU/CP but I would almost certainly have voted out CP.

Im stilll super salty :/
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
December 11 2016 21:05 GMT
#579
cakepie ur bad
NU ur exceptional
but cakepie ur bad
ExO ur alright
I'm alright too
good times for all
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 11 2016 21:06 GMT
#580
I shouldn't say fake analysis I guess. It just looked fake to me with how off-base it was.
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