On December 30 2016 04:51 disformation wrote:
@Grack:
GB did sheep the main wagon at the very end?
@Grack:
GB did sheep the main wagon at the very end?
Yeah but he made his sheep post after I had made my post on LS.
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Grackaroni
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On December 30 2016 04:51 disformation wrote: @Grack: GB did sheep the main wagon at the very end? Yeah but he made his sheep post after I had made my post on LS. | ||
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Explains his reads and starts on the Slammer: On December 29 2016 01:02 ExO_ wrote: I feel like there are a lot of people to seriously consider, but we have 8 hours left and the votes are all over the place. I think I'd prefer chez/slam if we're just gonna lynch a trolly person. I could see grack being scum, but I could also see Koshi very easily being scum here. His post looks good, but look at how he's playing this game. He's not posting with fire or over the top bravado. He's saying good shit, but he's not playing with that huge umpf that he plays with as town. He's antagonizing nobody. This still doesn't look like town Koshi to me, it reminds me so much of dota 2 mafia. Still I don't wanna get tunneled all in on this theory 100% yet. I think we should come together as town and get rid of either slam or chezinu for now. ##Unvote ##Vote: Alakaslam + on koshi: On December 29 2016 03:19 ExO_ wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2016 03:04 Koshi wrote: This is my last post this cycle. I would enjoy it if you lynch within my top 4 names. What a wonderful non-post. I'd be okay with Koshi lynch after this. so for me: Slam/Chez/Koshi are who I think we should lynch - on grack: On December 29 2016 03:23 ExO_ wrote: Because I'm not convinced enough that he's scum yet. The biggest thing I found scummy about him was his buddying with TT, and his post count that doesn't really scum hunt or drive town forward in any way. But I don't think I'm okay lynching him today when he's at least talking a decent amount. The fact that Koshi wants to lynch him also makes me think me want to hold off on a grack lynch. 1 day pass on tt2: On December 29 2016 04:06 ExO_ wrote: Time trav, you get a pass from me today, I know what its like to be new and exposed to day 1 and not really able to take it all in. That said it ONLY applies for day 1. You're going to have to step it up after today on btdt: On December 29 2016 07:55 ExO_ wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2016 07:55 Tictock wrote: On December 29 2016 07:52 ExO_ wrote: K I'm home for the last hour. BTDT is completely afk right, can somebody explain why we're lynching him? I'd rather lynch slam/chez and see if btdt can get replaced He came in to say he forgot about the game and waste a vote on me. I'm pointing out that he confirmed on Monday and so he 100% knew the game was starting. k Good enough for me on LS/koshi: On December 29 2016 08:22 ExO_ wrote: I don't think I'm okay with an L.S. lynch. I have my doubts about him. I think I like Koshi. Again everything I said about Koshi still stands. Town Koshi is in your face and loud and proud, and here he's kinda just "meh'. His post count is really low too. I'm not 100% sure, but I think I'd prefer Koshi to btdt at this point. I feel like its riskier to go with Koshi over chez/slam/btdt/insert other inac here but he just feels like scummy to me. Would like a bit more explanation on LS though. On December 29 2016 08:34 ExO_ wrote: Grack should 100% not be the lynch right now. He has 8 pages of filter. Even if a good portion of it is garbage, I cannot say anything has sold me he's so scummy that he should be lynched day 1. Koshi has 1 page of filter, is completely out of the thread, and had a weak case on grack. Then peaced out. That's it. I think he's our best bet here On December 29 2016 08:38 ExO_ wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2016 08:36 Time Traveler wrote: Can anyone repeat why Koshi is being voted again? Koshi is a well-known player on TL mafia. He can be very antagonistic but he can also be right. My thinking is this: Koshi has 1 page of filter. That's incredibly low activity, esp for Koshi. Koshi makes a bad case on grack and doesn't really try past that. His posts aren't getting in anybody's face (which is my impression of his town meta) but instead he's acting disinterested and not passionate (what I think his scum meta is like based on his scum play in dota 2 mafia). Therefore I think he's our best bet right now. I'm not as sold on LS at the moment I dont like that these boil down to activity. calls out the grack thing: On December 29 2016 08:52 ExO_ wrote: Grack you said your goal was to get Koshi lynched, but you've been parked on LS this entire time. Why was your "goal" to get Koshi lynched and why are you not voting for him now? On December 29 2016 08:59 ExO_ wrote: Grack you are suspicious as fuck right now Left out a bit of pocking left and right, which all felt like he seriously was trying to figure out the game. 2 very small things: why didnt he like a LS lynch. and i didnt super agree with the activity based read on Koshi/Grack. But I am fairly sure he is just town. His read progression on Koshi makes a lot of sense. And while I am not a huge fan of that grack read, he realizes grack looks really weird at EoD. Overall feels a lot like figuring out the game and not like he is agenda driven or playing for survival. | ||
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On December 30 2016 04:58 Grackaroni wrote: Show nested quote + On December 30 2016 04:51 disformation wrote: @Grack: GB did sheep the main wagon at the very end? On December 29 2016 08:58 GlowingBear wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Koshi Yeah but he made his sheep post after I had made my post on LS. ah i understand now. | ||
Chezinu
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On December 29 2016 21:30 disformation wrote: /inthegamewithChez but i got nuthin. role says i cant get item from feast Ok! I have chosen you since you couldn't enjoy the feast. What type of seed do you want? | ||
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On December 30 2016 05:16 Chezinu wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2016 21:30 disformation wrote: /inthegamewithChez but i got nuthin. role says i cant get item from feast Ok! I have chosen you since you couldn't enjoy the feast. What type of seed do you want? Oh most generous Chez! It appears I am currently far from the Capital on some plains. Which is why I am missing the feast. I would humbly request a seed of planting so the seed shall take root in these plains and spread far and wide! | ||
Chezinu
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On December 30 2016 05:20 disformation wrote: Show nested quote + On December 30 2016 05:16 Chezinu wrote: On December 29 2016 21:30 disformation wrote: /inthegamewithChez but i got nuthin. role says i cant get item from feast Ok! I have chosen you since you couldn't enjoy the feast. What type of seed do you want? Oh most generous Chez! It appears I am currently far from the Capital on some plains. Which is why I am missing the feast. I would humbly request a seed of planting so the seed shall take root in these plains and spread far and wide! Ok, I can give you a seed that you my sow at someone. What would you like this seed to do? | ||
Chezinu
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On December 30 2016 05:29 Chezinu wrote: Show nested quote + On December 30 2016 05:20 disformation wrote: On December 30 2016 05:16 Chezinu wrote: On December 29 2016 21:30 disformation wrote: /inthegamewithChez but i got nuthin. role says i cant get item from feast Ok! I have chosen you since you couldn't enjoy the feast. What type of seed do you want? Oh most generous Chez! It appears I am currently far from the Capital on some plains. Which is why I am missing the feast. I would humbly request a seed of planting so the seed shall take root in these plains and spread far and wide! Ok, I can give you a seed that you my sow at someone. What would you like this seed to do? oh wait nm, You can target yourself with the seed. I can make this happen.. | ||
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On December 30 2016 05:29 Chezinu wrote: Show nested quote + On December 30 2016 05:20 disformation wrote: On December 30 2016 05:16 Chezinu wrote: On December 29 2016 21:30 disformation wrote: /inthegamewithChez but i got nuthin. role says i cant get item from feast Ok! I have chosen you since you couldn't enjoy the feast. What type of seed do you want? Oh most generous Chez! It appears I am currently far from the Capital on some plains. Which is why I am missing the feast. I would humbly request a seed of planting so the seed shall take root in these plains and spread far and wide! Ok, I can give you a seed that you my sow at someone. What would you like this seed to do? I think we are in such a state of disarray that neither a seed that sprouts in a healing flower nor a seed that sprouts into a poisonous one are a good choice. I'd love a seed that sprouts a flower blossoming in the true colours of the person at whose feet I sow it. If that is possible. =D | ||
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LightningStrike
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On December 30 2016 02:33 darthfoley wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2016 07:30 LightningStrike wrote: I home for just for a few minutes will answer some questions then I will have to answer on mobile: On December 29 2016 06:04 Tictock wrote: Decided to take a walk kus I don't feel like giving up my whole day off for this game. @LS While I agree that between Koshi and Grack, Grack looks more likely to be scum, I don't like how you are pushing that there MUST be mafia in Grack/Koshi. Also all I have really seen from you this game is sheeping Exo on Koshi and now sheeping Koshi on Grack. Becuase something in the tone between them plus how they interacted with each other don't seem like TvT but more like TvS. On December 29 2016 06:31 GlowingBear wrote: GRACK IS NOT THE LYNCH TODAY HE WON'T BE THE LYNCH TODAY. I REFUSE TO LET THAT HAPPEN He has one of the biggest filter atm and he has been here commenting stuff. My suggestion is that we lynch Time Traveler/disformation No we lynching Grack Time Traveler and dis look better than him in my opinion. On December 29 2016 06:38 beentheredonethat wrote: oh shit forgot about this game, have my gf here :< will catch up tomorrow. voting tictock because I have to vote This post from btdt is pretty bad and idk why he voting Tictock atm. Explain to me how you go from this post, to your next post saying this. Show nested quote + On December 29 2016 07:30 LightningStrike wrote: Also btdt is a terrible lynch because we wont get any information regarding anything tbh. Then finally this Show nested quote + On December 29 2016 07:33 LightningStrike wrote: On December 29 2016 07:31 Grackaroni wrote: On December 29 2016 07:30 LightningStrike wrote: Also btdt is a terrible lynch because we wont get any information regarding anything tbh. Why not? Any lynch should be informative today. btdt only post was the one I quoted so we wont have anything to really go on except maybe people's reasoning but even then it's meh in my opinion. I understand you left before btdt went on his EoD desperate tirade thing, but how do you go from saying his post is "pretty bad," implying scum then turn around and say his lynch would be terrible. While it's true that his lynch may not have given us the "most" information, how could lynching someone who's very scummy be terrible? Especially when the guy you're sheeping is the one on the chopping block. You post this before you go Show nested quote + On December 29 2016 07:37 LightningStrike wrote: Okay his[Koshi??] posts are okay enough that at least I got a second lead if he flips scum and if he flips town I can see his thought process better. Anyways going to be on mobile now. So in that post you say you're okay with Koshi being the lynch after you sheep him the whole day? You're okay with him being the lynch over someone you thought was pretty scummy? Also you said that you would have a bunch of info regardless of Koshi's flip. Let's hear it His in that in that last post was grack. Yes i wasn't around EoD and I should of warned on that. Also in case I wasn't clear df should be up for lynch after grack. The reason is that his EoD blaming me about not lynching btdt you guys could of still lynched him instead of Koshi. | ||
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starts on superbia: On December 29 2016 05:21 darthfoley wrote: Somehow everyone has forgotten that Superbia's filter is pretty ass. It's actually very ass. He hones in on one sentence of mine and that Koshi posted a list post. That's literally all the analysis he's done. The rest is mechanics and banter fluff. This was before he supposedly got sick. (Mafia can get sick too!) I don't know why anyone is town reading him. ##Vote: Superbia On December 29 2016 07:26 darthfoley wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2016 06:28 Superbia wrote: On December 29 2016 06:12 Superbia wrote: Specifically: 1a. Reads me mafia based on OP+activity (afaicr) 1b. Unwilling to push anything on me when we're both around. 1c. This is strengthened by his immediate response when I get smitten. 2 Lumps me together with disfo as becomin"sick on lynch day". I became OG sick near game start. This showcases that he is not familiar with my (admittedly) limited gameplay. Also I don't think his read progression on disfo has progressed but I may be wrong. Did he interact with disfo in between his list post and voting me? 3. My actual activity is not taken into account at all in the vote or read even though I have done some AI things Read this fucking post 1a. Yea,basically. Plus you've literally done nothing but push shit on me. The only thing that makes me a little less sure is that you're trying to get people to lynch me, when i've been almost universally townread so far. That's definitely not the easy way out, so perhaps i'm wrong on you. 1b. Unwilling to push anything on you when we're both around? Wtf is this point? I interacted with you when you pushed me, when you said something about Koshi that I found a scummy point. I've interacted with you more than most people in this thread. Just ctrl + F superbia in my filter. 1c. Not my fault you got yourself killed for surface level ez town points. 2. I don't know what this has to do with me being mafia? I'm on the fence on disformation and i'm rereading his filter currently. 3. What AI things have you done? Getting yourself briefly out of a bastard game by doing some bet with the hosts? Cool, man. Your "actual activity" is definitely taken into account in all of these posts. Show nested quote + On December 29 2016 05:21 darthfoley wrote: Somehow everyone has forgotten that Superbia's filter is pretty ass. It's actually very ass. He hones in on one sentence of mine and that Koshi posted a list post. That's literally all the analysis he's done. The rest is mechanics and banter fluff. This was before he supposedly got sick. (Mafia can get sick too!) I don't know why anyone is town reading him. ##Vote: Superbia What am I missing from your filter? willing to consolidate on btdt: On December 29 2016 07:31 darthfoley wrote: Now that i've dispatched of Superbia's bad case against me, I agree with Ticktock that BTDT's post is utter garbage; I'd be willing to consolidate on someone who opted out of D1 after confirming two days ago grack/koshi/ls: On December 29 2016 07:33 darthfoley wrote: I actually like Grack more than I like Koshi right now On December 29 2016 07:40 darthfoley wrote: I still find LS's Koshi v Grack analysis very very troubling and i'm nervous about it Show nested quote + On December 28 2016 11:04 LightningStrike wrote: I too think Grack is potential mafia too due to how when I was hard pushing you Koshi earlier he kept trying to steer it away to Slam who we both know is harder to read based on pure pushing. this post man??? Grack did a better job of pointing out the inconsistencies it assumes, but c'mon like what On December 29 2016 07:47 darthfoley wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2016 07:46 Tictock wrote: On December 29 2016 07:38 Grackaroni wrote: I don't like that first he was calling me scum for being Koshi's scum partner and now he's saying that I'm scum because my Koshi fight seems like it's between town and scum. Those are opposite reasons but I always seem to end up the lynch over Koshi. Yea he never said you were Scum with Koshi. No idea where you got that, I just ignored that you thought that till now. Seemed more like he was swayed by Koshi's case after being sus on you kus of your defense of Koshi early on. I do agree LS is pretty suspect though, and I only see people Town reading him kus of meta. which annoys me On December 29 2016 07:51 darthfoley wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2016 07:48 disformation wrote: On December 29 2016 07:47 LightningStrike wrote: On December 29 2016 07:46 disformation wrote: I think there was this thing where i was trying to say that i think that LS case on you is more likely to come from town ls and you though I was agreeing with his case. I like the credit and all but it was Koshi's case with a add on from me. still felt different from what you have done last game. I feel like it would be much EASIER to change your scum play after just being caught as mafia; you're hyper aware of your tells, etc. I don't know why this is your defense of him. I know it's WIFOMy and kinda damned if you do/don't, but why would LS ever attempt another baby rage after getting shot down so easily like yesterday. Of course his scum play would look different right after, ESPECIALLY on D1 when it's easy to blend into 13 people. On December 29 2016 07:59 darthfoley wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2016 07:55 Grackaroni wrote: I think I have to assume at this point that a Koshi lynch isn't happening, which makes me very dissappoint. But meh. I actually quite like your case on Koshi. I'm just conflicted on whether he should be a d1 lynch unvotes cause nobody is on super: On December 29 2016 08:10 darthfoley wrote: Okay since everyone has just ignored Superbia's terrible case on me and is not willing to vote on him, I'm basically between btdt/LS/other inactive people ##unvote hates my defense of LS: On December 29 2016 08:15 darthfoley wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2016 08:12 disformation wrote: have you read LS filter like at all? Pray tell me where I am mistaken, for I just finished reading through is filter, and it's a whole lot of meh On December 29 2016 08:17 darthfoley wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2016 08:15 disformation wrote: On December 29 2016 08:14 disformation wrote: On December 29 2016 08:12 Grackaroni wrote: On December 29 2016 08:12 disformation wrote: On December 29 2016 08:08 darthfoley wrote: On December 28 2016 06:23 LightningStrike wrote: On December 28 2016 04:46 Grackaroni wrote: I don't understand how Koshi is town reading LS. He came back recently and he was still focused entirely on Koshi's first post. He's probably the most likely mafia at this point. You be suprised how hard I can tunnel as town. Yet you haven't tunneled anyone. You also added onto Koshi's case on Grack with a bad point onto a case that was already bad. Outside of that, I don't really know what you've done to push anyone or to push the game forward. I do not like this post. I do. should have specified: I dont mind the first sentence. I really do not like the second. I should go to bed. specifically i dislike the "Outside of that, I don't really know what you've done to push anyone or to push the game forward." because i feel it is not true at all Yea okay you've now used three posts to tell us you don't like it. Why is it not true? Who/what has he pushed that have been original points? On December 29 2016 08:21 darthfoley wrote: I just reread all of LS filter for disformation's sake and my opinion has not changed. You like my point about LS and Koshi's bad case on Grack, but dislike my second line? What else has LS else this game dude? On December 29 2016 08:23 darthfoley wrote: How the fuck is him saying ExO is probably town an original point? ExO has been townread by everyone except GB for ages. Even at the time, that was a safe read. Most of what you just quoted is confined to two players, and a widely read town player. Color me not impressed switches to koshi: On December 29 2016 08:36 darthfoley wrote: Fuck it I will vote Koshi if LS is not going to happen. The dude has one page filter and his only case is jabroni baloney on Grack On December 29 2016 08:39 darthfoley wrote: ##Vote: Koshi One page filter, won't get NK'd if he is town because of the suspicion he draws. Also no blues so don't have to worry about that. Only case is on Grack. Not happy with D1 but this is the way the cookie crumbles. little addon onto ls: On December 29 2016 08:44 darthfoley wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2016 08:40 ExO_ wrote: DF can you explain to me why LS lynch btw? I'm not sure I'm going to be comfortable moving votes as the deadline gets within the 5 minute window but what am I missing about LS? It was mainly because I feel like his filter has been very carefully limited to talking about you (who most people view as town), and Koshi v. Grack. I also think Grack is way more townie at this point, so not sure why LS views the two completely opposite to me. He's had a few town things to point to: the point of voting btdt, for example On December 29 2016 08:54 darthfoley wrote: I'm staying on Koshi unless it becomes an LS wagon. dunno. this one is a bit hard. like he has his own reads and the progression mostly makes sense. well there is that part where he wants to lynch into the afks and then it goes to LS/Koshi. Generally he seems to be cool with like whatever wagon, besides grack? Problem: since EoD was so chaotic and so all over the place I can hardly blame the guy. Still for whatever reason my gut feeling is pretty bleh on this one. Also found the line of "One page filter, won't get NK'd if he is town because of the suspicion he draws. Also no blues so don't have to worry about that." to be rather strange. Esp. the NK thing? Just seems like a weird train of thought to me. Not sure if that is even really AI. Also getting really tired. Will probably reread this one, if I dont dieded. | ||
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Alakaslam
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On December 30 2016 05:16 Chezinu wrote: Show nested quote + On December 29 2016 21:30 disformation wrote: /inthegamewithChez but i got nuthin. role says i cant get item from feast Ok! I have chosen you since you couldn't enjoy the feast. What type of seed do you want? /inthegamewithchez Ayylmao /inthegamewithchez ##Ayy LMAO | ||
Grackaroni
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On December 29 2016 08:48 Chezinu wrote: Where are the mafia counter wagons?!?!?! This post makes me lean slightly townie on him. | ||
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Tictock
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On December 30 2016 04:43 Grackaroni wrote: Ok I have read through all of the filters. LS still looks very scummy and I think it is a massive red flag that Koshi got lynched over him. I think my case on LS should have gained more traction than it did. I also think that if Koshi and LS were being viewed as equally scummy then normally the lynch would land on LS. I actually think ExO came out very townie from the lynch. He was the only person that fully took control during all of the waffling and pushed through who he wanted to be lynched, which was consistent from his earlier posts. GlowingBear has seemed pretty townie to me. However, he said that he would sheep me and never moved his vote. He loses points for that. I think that if he had moved his vote then LS would have been more likely to have been lynched. Also I may be biased because he defended me at the end of the day. I think TT looks quite bad from the lynch. He started out calling Koshi very townie but he offered no real defense of him when Chezinu and BtDt voted to lynch him. Show nested quote + On December 28 2016 15:02 Tictock wrote: I started this post over twice kus I both want to let Grack and Koshi get into it, yet I also feel like I want to weigh in. Koshi is towny AF and Grack could easily be mafia. However, I do rather like Gracks rundowns of the game. I'm setteling in to reread Dis now but I'd also like to point out how incredibly shit GB's last batch of posts were. Show nested quote + On December 29 2016 07:06 Tictock wrote: On December 29 2016 06:52 Time Traveler wrote: Wait, Grack actually wants Koshi dead after defending him? da fack. Guess I'll have to re-read It's about half OMGUS based, but he doesn't like that Koshi is pushing him without interacting with him. It's a fair point honestly, I just don't want to lynch Koshi today. Show nested quote + On December 29 2016 08:49 Tictock wrote: On December 29 2016 08:43 Time Traveler wrote: BtDt, be honest, you just want to lynch me because I voted you without saying anything and caused all this mess by accident. And now you're like "OMG. THIS GUY ALMOST GOT ME KILLED. #DOWNWITHHIM Your vote was quite opportunistic and have not really brought any scum hunting to the table yourself. Honestly if it weren't for this being your first game you would probably be the lynch right now. That is the only thing holding me back ATM and I'm wondering if that isn't completely wrong right now. I'm also not terribly keen on D1 lynching Koshi as I don't think he has really been scummy at all. He has fooled me in the past though....bleh. Show nested quote + On December 29 2016 08:52 Tictock wrote: Meh not sure where the vote count is at. If we are actually between LS and Koshi then I'm going with LS. He also joins in with a bunch of other people blaming me for the Koshi lynch, when I had at least made a case for voting LS over Koshi. Show nested quote + On December 29 2016 08:59 Tictock wrote: On December 29 2016 08:57 Grackaroni wrote: On December 29 2016 08:56 darthfoley wrote: Why is Grack not voting Koshi after getting lots of us to vote Koshi? I'm feeling nervous about how easily this lynch is happening when so many people were hard townreading Koshi when I started posting today. If Koshi flips Town you are getting scrutinized to all hell tomorrow. He did nothing to prevent the Koshi lynch. He didn't even move his vote. That's scummy. I realized I'm going to have to break this post up into many parts. In hindsight I def should have fought people wanting to lynch Koshi. My problem was I was getting waffly and didn't have any strong scum reads so I was more invested trying to find my lynch preference than paying attention to the votes. I actually kinda thought like you that LS had some votes on him and so my final thought when I voted was that I preferred an LS lynch to Koshi, even though I wasn't too hot about either. I actually kinda like LS a bit more with his posts tonight but mostly that's just his tone. I probably won't seriously look at LS as scum until I see BtDt flip but that's not even a strong association imo. EoD is hard when everyone is so all over the place and I'm not tunneled on someone. | ||
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