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On December 29 2016 23:11 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 21:34 disformation wrote:On December 29 2016 11:15 Tictock wrote:I'm looking at Gracks filter and he is super all over the place. It's really weird how he calls Koshi an easy lynch and then goes "yea I'll consolidate" after casing Koshi and being one of the main driving factors at the start of the wagon. On December 29 2016 09:20 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 04:14 Koshi wrote:
Try your bestest Grackie. I think it is possible. Worth for this post. This seems overly gloaty if Grack is scum though. I dunno I should reread Grack in more detail. I think I would still easily lynch Dis/BtDt at this point before Grack. Honestly I kinda like having Grack in the game for how active he has been. thats a very bad reason and you know it. That's not a bad reason and you should know it Oo
It is a horrible reason.
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On December 29 2016 23:08 disformation wrote:
and yes im pissed towards btdt so I scumread him
On December 29 2016 23:08 disformation wrote:
if i have a vig shot im still shooting grack over btdt
Okay. Get out of the thread. Return later when you calmed down. Because if you don't, you're helping scum. Stop one-lining. Instead, take a step back.
Also, I apologize for upsetting you. It was not my intention to so and I was (and partially am) pissed about the way you approached the game because if you're town, it's helping scum and if you're scum, you're frustrating af to play against.
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Grack:
Push/Case on Koshi during the day. (triggered by koshi scumreading grack).
Then starts on LS around ~1h prior to DL:
On December 29 2016 07:36 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm souring on LS.
On December 29 2016 07:38 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't like that first he was calling me scum for being Koshi's scum partner and now he's saying that I'm scum because my Koshi fight seems like it's between town and scum. Those are opposite reasons but I always seem to end up the lynch over Koshi.
On December 29 2016 07:43 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 07:40 darthfoley wrote:I still find LS's Koshi v Grack analysis very very troubling and i'm nervous about it On December 28 2016 11:04 LightningStrike wrote:
I too think Grack is potential mafia too due to how when I was hard pushing you Koshi earlier he kept trying to steer it away to Slam who we both know is harder to read based on pure pushing. this post man??? Grack did a better job of pointing out the inconsistencies it assumes, but c'mon like what What bothers me more is that while I think that's an acceptable post to see from LS, I can't see how Koshi would be able to call that post excellent.
On December 29 2016 07:47 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 07:45 LightningStrike wrote:
We not lynching ExO I think he's a paranoid town. He shown this in his last game. This again is wtf level. He made three reads at the start of the game. ExO seems townie. Koshi is mafia. Grack is mafia for deflecting off of Koshi. Every post he has made since then has just been reiterating the exact same reads while changing around the reasoning behind them. I don't think he can come up with his own reads. At this point I think we just kill LS.
On December 29 2016 08:00 Grackaroni wrote:Can we lynch LS? I think he's more likely to be scum than Koshi. Koshi was just bothering me more.Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 07:38 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't like that first he was calling me scum for being Koshi's scum partner and now he's saying that I'm scum because my Koshi fight seems like it's between town and scum. Those are opposite reasons but I always seem to end up the lynch over Koshi. Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 07:47 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 07:45 LightningStrike wrote:
We not lynching ExO I think he's a paranoid town. He shown this in his last game. This again is wtf level. He made three reads at the start of the game. ExO seems townie. Koshi is mafia. Grack is mafia for deflecting off of Koshi. Every post he has made since then has just been reiterating the exact same reads while changing around the reasoning behind them. I don't think he can come up with his own reads. At this point I think we just kill LS. Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 05:36 GlowingBear wrote:
I must say I'm disliking LS. I remember Tina saying something about him being more "mechanical" when he is Mafia? ##Vote: LS
Note the bolded in above post.
On December 29 2016 08:29 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:26 darthfoley wrote:
Grack, ExO: what do you guys think about going Koshi? I am most comfortable with LS or Koshi ATM. I honestly think LS is the better lynch. But obviously I'm willing to switch to Koshi.
On December 29 2016 08:32 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:31 disformation wrote:On December 29 2016 08:24 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 08:20 disformation wrote:On December 29 2016 08:17 darthfoley wrote:On December 29 2016 08:15 disformation wrote:On December 29 2016 08:14 disformation wrote:On December 29 2016 08:12 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 08:12 disformation wrote:On December 29 2016 08:08 darthfoley wrote:
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Yet you haven't tunneled anyone.
You also added onto Koshi's case on Grack with a bad point onto a case that was already bad. Outside of that, I don't really know what you've done to push anyone or to push the game forward. I do not like this post. I do. should have specified: I dont mind the first sentence. I really do not like the second. I should go to bed. specifically i dislike the "Outside of that, I don't really know what you've done to push anyone or to push the game forward." because i feel it is not true at all Yea okay you've now used three posts to tell us you don't like it. Why is it not true? Who/what has he pushed that have been original points? On December 27 2016 12:11 LightningStrike wrote:
I going to put a vote on Koshi for right now because his opening was pure shit and not like any town opening I remember him doing.
##Vote: Koshi On December 27 2016 12:15 LightningStrike wrote:
I also really liking ExO already too he trying to push a town agenda and get this game rolling off the bat. On December 27 2016 14:05 LightningStrike wrote:
Tbh Grack's defense of Koshi is a little bit strange can't remember if he did the same thing regarding me in my very first game together. Anyways I think we should leave Slam alone and see what he does because one of the ways Geript had a good read on to Slam is if Slam does his own thing which would mean he would be town so I rather see what he does later. On December 28 2016 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:On December 28 2016 03:45 disformation wrote:
I like GB.
I like Koshi liking GB.
I dislike Koshi liking ExO_
but tbh Im just policy voting ExO_ :D Pretty terrible policy vote tbh. I think he's more likely town than scum at this point and we shouldn't lynch him. On December 28 2016 10:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Nothing really was going on and post game of the other game just started.
@Darth thoughts on Koshi? On December 28 2016 11:04 LightningStrike wrote:
I too think Grack is potential mafia too due to how when I was hard pushing you Koshi earlier he kept trying to steer it away to Slam who we both know is harder to read based on pure pushing. Really? The original Koshi push was a follow up of ExO's push. There's a bunch of duplicate town reads on ExO And then 2 posts on my Koshi post that DF (and I) already addressed. Now here's an experiment for you. Go through my filter just starting around page 5 or 6 and make a comparison. I dont think LS filter will ever look like one of yours regardless of alignment.  If only based on the fact that he isnt posting as much. But I think I feel actually better not lynching you. That's a fair point. But I've definitely had games where I've gotten strong town feelings from LS before and this just isn't one of those for me.
On December 29 2016 08:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Killing Koshi was my primary goal for today but I don't feel all that great about the way it has happened lol.
On December 29 2016 08:57 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:56 darthfoley wrote:
Why is Grack not voting Koshi after getting lots of us to vote Koshi? I'm feeling nervous about how easily this lynch is happening when so many people were hard townreading Koshi when I started posting today.
On December 29 2016 08:58 Grackaroni wrote:
Anyway I'll consolidate.
TBH it is not as slam dunk as I did remember it.
But there are two things that stick out:
"Can we lynch LS? I think he's more likely to be scum than Koshi. Koshi was just bothering me more."
"Killing Koshi was my primary goal for today but I don't feel all that great about the way it has happened lol."
Primary goal for today doesnt sound town at all to me, but more like it was his mafia agenda for the day. And getting the guy lynched that was scumreading you, is a damn fine goal for scum.
And again if LS is more scummy, why was Koshi the primary goal? Just weird to state it like that as town.
The progression itself isnt that horrible. Picks up a bunch of points on LS, makes a small case wants him over koshi. Gets confused when suddenly everyone wants koshi. Though that confusing can him being knowing koshi will flip green and not knowing what the best position is here for him, cause that will have caught scum by surprise too.
So not as slam dunk as I thought, but it is still pretty bad.
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On December 29 2016 09:20 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 04:14 Koshi wrote:
Try your bestest Grackie. I think it is possible. Worth for this post.
Also think grack is a bit of a joker, so I can see him post that as either alignment and treat is as NAI.
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Are we really calling Grack mafia because Koshi flipped town?
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On December 29 2016 23:12 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 23:08 disformation wrote:
and yes im pissed towards btdt so I scumread him Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 23:08 disformation wrote:
if i have a vig shot im still shooting grack over btdt Okay. Get out of the thread. Return later when you calmed down. Because if you don't, you're helping scum. Stop one-lining. Instead, take a step back. Also, I apologize for upsetting you. It was not my intention to so and I was (and partially am) pissed about the way you approached the game because if you're town, it's helping scum and if you're scum, you're frustrating af to play against.
Is fine. I def. didnt play very good. Lemme do my vca stuff, I'm actually good, or at least decent, at that. Will reread you later or something.
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On December 29 2016 23:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Are we really calling Grack mafia because Koshi flipped town?
It's more than that. Koshi made a case on him plus my add on also dis did add a good point his progression on the lynching of Koshi 1 hour before EoD was very odd considering I was his biggest scumread yet he wasn't pushing me that hard. In addition he said he would switch to Koshi but doesn't do it till much later than he said he would switch.
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I must say
I can moo someone tonight.
One of the hosts sent me a PM saying I could moo anyone. I have no idea what it does.
I'll moo you, LS.
##Moo: LS
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On December 30 2016 00:19 GlowingBear wrote:
I must say
I can moo someone tonight.
One of the hosts sent me a PM saying I could moo anyone. I have no idea what it does.
I'll moo you, LS.
##Moo: LS
.................
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On December 29 2016 23:25 disformation wrote:Grack:Push/Case on Koshi during the day. (triggered by koshi scumreading grack). Then starts on LS around ~1h prior to DL: Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 07:38 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't like that first he was calling me scum for being Koshi's scum partner and now he's saying that I'm scum because my Koshi fight seems like it's between town and scum. Those are opposite reasons but I always seem to end up the lynch over Koshi. Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 07:43 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 07:40 darthfoley wrote:I still find LS's Koshi v Grack analysis very very troubling and i'm nervous about it On December 28 2016 11:04 LightningStrike wrote:
I too think Grack is potential mafia too due to how when I was hard pushing you Koshi earlier he kept trying to steer it away to Slam who we both know is harder to read based on pure pushing. this post man??? Grack did a better job of pointing out the inconsistencies it assumes, but c'mon like what What bothers me more is that while I think that's an acceptable post to see from LS, I can't see how Koshi would be able to call that post excellent. Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 07:47 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 07:45 LightningStrike wrote:
We not lynching ExO I think he's a paranoid town. He shown this in his last game. This again is wtf level. He made three reads at the start of the game. ExO seems townie. Koshi is mafia. Grack is mafia for deflecting off of Koshi. Every post he has made since then has just been reiterating the exact same reads while changing around the reasoning behind them. I don't think he can come up with his own reads. At this point I think we just kill LS. Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:00 Grackaroni wrote:Can we lynch LS? I think he's more likely to be scum than Koshi. Koshi was just bothering me more.On December 29 2016 07:38 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't like that first he was calling me scum for being Koshi's scum partner and now he's saying that I'm scum because my Koshi fight seems like it's between town and scum. Those are opposite reasons but I always seem to end up the lynch over Koshi. On December 29 2016 07:47 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 07:45 LightningStrike wrote:
We not lynching ExO I think he's a paranoid town. He shown this in his last game. This again is wtf level. He made three reads at the start of the game. ExO seems townie. Koshi is mafia. Grack is mafia for deflecting off of Koshi. Every post he has made since then has just been reiterating the exact same reads while changing around the reasoning behind them. I don't think he can come up with his own reads. At this point I think we just kill LS. On December 29 2016 05:36 GlowingBear wrote:
I must say I'm disliking LS. I remember Tina saying something about him being more "mechanical" when he is Mafia? ##Vote: LS Note the bolded in above post. Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:29 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 08:26 darthfoley wrote:
Grack, ExO: what do you guys think about going Koshi? I am most comfortable with LS or Koshi ATM. I honestly think LS is the better lynch. But obviously I'm willing to switch to Koshi. Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:32 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 08:31 disformation wrote:On December 29 2016 08:24 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 08:20 disformation wrote:On December 29 2016 08:17 darthfoley wrote:On December 29 2016 08:15 disformation wrote:On December 29 2016 08:14 disformation wrote:On December 29 2016 08:12 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 08:12 disformation wrote:
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I do not like this post. I do. should have specified: I dont mind the first sentence. I really do not like the second. I should go to bed. specifically i dislike the "Outside of that, I don't really know what you've done to push anyone or to push the game forward." because i feel it is not true at all Yea okay you've now used three posts to tell us you don't like it. Why is it not true? Who/what has he pushed that have been original points? On December 27 2016 12:11 LightningStrike wrote:
I going to put a vote on Koshi for right now because his opening was pure shit and not like any town opening I remember him doing.
##Vote: Koshi On December 27 2016 12:15 LightningStrike wrote:
I also really liking ExO already too he trying to push a town agenda and get this game rolling off the bat. On December 27 2016 14:05 LightningStrike wrote:
Tbh Grack's defense of Koshi is a little bit strange can't remember if he did the same thing regarding me in my very first game together. Anyways I think we should leave Slam alone and see what he does because one of the ways Geript had a good read on to Slam is if Slam does his own thing which would mean he would be town so I rather see what he does later. On December 28 2016 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:On December 28 2016 03:45 disformation wrote:
I like GB.
I like Koshi liking GB.
I dislike Koshi liking ExO_
but tbh Im just policy voting ExO_ :D Pretty terrible policy vote tbh. I think he's more likely town than scum at this point and we shouldn't lynch him. On December 28 2016 10:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Nothing really was going on and post game of the other game just started.
@Darth thoughts on Koshi? On December 28 2016 11:04 LightningStrike wrote:
I too think Grack is potential mafia too due to how when I was hard pushing you Koshi earlier he kept trying to steer it away to Slam who we both know is harder to read based on pure pushing. Really? The original Koshi push was a follow up of ExO's push. There's a bunch of duplicate town reads on ExO And then 2 posts on my Koshi post that DF (and I) already addressed. Now here's an experiment for you. Go through my filter just starting around page 5 or 6 and make a comparison. I dont think LS filter will ever look like one of yours regardless of alignment. If only based on the fact that he isnt posting as much. But I think I feel actually better not lynching you. That's a fair point. But I've definitely had games where I've gotten strong town feelings from LS before and this just isn't one of those for me. Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Killing Koshi was my primary goal for today but I don't feel all that great about the way it has happened lol. Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:57 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 08:56 darthfoley wrote:
Why is Grack not voting Koshi after getting lots of us to vote Koshi? I'm feeling nervous about how easily this lynch is happening when so many people were hard townreading Koshi when I started posting today. TBH it is not as slam dunk as I did remember it. But there are two things that stick out: "Can we lynch LS? I think he's more likely to be scum than Koshi. Koshi was just bothering me more." "Killing Koshi was my primary goal for today but I don't feel all that great about the way it has happened lol." Primary goal for today doesnt sound town at all to me, but more like it was his mafia agenda for the day. And getting the guy lynched that was scumreading you, is a damn fine goal for scum. And again if LS is more scummy, why was Koshi the primary goal? Just weird to state it like that as town. The progression itself isnt that horrible. Picks up a bunch of points on LS, makes a small case wants him over koshi. Gets confused when suddenly everyone wants koshi. Though that confusing can him being knowing koshi will flip green and not knowing what the best position is here for him, cause that will have caught scum by surprise too. So not as slam dunk as I thought, but it is still pretty bad.
This is not all that different than what my take-away from rereading Gracks EoD was.
I feel like a Scum!Grack would be all too happy to go back to Koshi given the investment he made in pushing him earlier in the day. Having cold feet about Koshi when he did seems more like a paranoid townie to me than mafia making their own position look shit.
@ BtDt
I think it is shit that you got super uppity and aggressive about us pushing you for clearly making no attempt to play the game. Then after the flip you've been in everyone's face placing blame.
Have you even fully read the game at this point?
Like there is just this huge disconnect between your opening post and everything after that, and it all just SCREAMS playing for survival to me.
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I forgot I have to work today won't have as much time as I wanted to be around.
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On December 29 2016 23:49 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 23:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Are we really calling Grack mafia because Koshi flipped town? It's more than that. Koshi made a case on him plus my add on also dis did add a good point his progression on the lynching of Koshi 1 hour before EoD was very odd considering I was his biggest scumread yet he wasn't pushing me that hard. In addition he said he would switch to Koshi but doesn't do it till much later than he said he would switch.
Koshi flipping green does not take away from the fact that there were pretty big logical holes in his argument on his Grack case. For example, he said he had no idea who Grack thought was mafia, then two lines later said Grack was scumreading you.
I often get cold feet near EoD when there's only one wagon in similar circumstances so in retrospect I don't have as big of a problem with his EoD as I previously remembered.
I agree with dis in the sense that the wording of "primary goal" sounds quite odd from town pov though. Can you explain that Grack?
Also Alakaslam comes in with three more one liners than leaves
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On December 29 2016 17:32 Superbia wrote:
Df can you link me to the game you most recently played as mafia?
It was Unoriginal Mini Mafia in like January 2016. I'm on mobile so I don't have the link
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On December 30 2016 01:03 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 23:25 disformation wrote:Grack:Push/Case on Koshi during the day. (triggered by koshi scumreading grack). Then starts on LS around ~1h prior to DL: On December 29 2016 07:36 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm souring on LS. On December 29 2016 07:38 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't like that first he was calling me scum for being Koshi's scum partner and now he's saying that I'm scum because my Koshi fight seems like it's between town and scum. Those are opposite reasons but I always seem to end up the lynch over Koshi. On December 29 2016 07:43 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 07:40 darthfoley wrote:I still find LS's Koshi v Grack analysis very very troubling and i'm nervous about it On December 28 2016 11:04 LightningStrike wrote:
I too think Grack is potential mafia too due to how when I was hard pushing you Koshi earlier he kept trying to steer it away to Slam who we both know is harder to read based on pure pushing. this post man??? Grack did a better job of pointing out the inconsistencies it assumes, but c'mon like what What bothers me more is that while I think that's an acceptable post to see from LS, I can't see how Koshi would be able to call that post excellent. On December 29 2016 07:47 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 07:45 LightningStrike wrote:
We not lynching ExO I think he's a paranoid town. He shown this in his last game. This again is wtf level. He made three reads at the start of the game. ExO seems townie. Koshi is mafia. Grack is mafia for deflecting off of Koshi. Every post he has made since then has just been reiterating the exact same reads while changing around the reasoning behind them. I don't think he can come up with his own reads. At this point I think we just kill LS. On December 29 2016 08:00 Grackaroni wrote:Can we lynch LS? I think he's more likely to be scum than Koshi. Koshi was just bothering me more.On December 29 2016 07:38 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't like that first he was calling me scum for being Koshi's scum partner and now he's saying that I'm scum because my Koshi fight seems like it's between town and scum. Those are opposite reasons but I always seem to end up the lynch over Koshi. On December 29 2016 07:47 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 07:45 LightningStrike wrote:
We not lynching ExO I think he's a paranoid town. He shown this in his last game. This again is wtf level. He made three reads at the start of the game. ExO seems townie. Koshi is mafia. Grack is mafia for deflecting off of Koshi. Every post he has made since then has just been reiterating the exact same reads while changing around the reasoning behind them. I don't think he can come up with his own reads. At this point I think we just kill LS. On December 29 2016 05:36 GlowingBear wrote:
I must say I'm disliking LS. I remember Tina saying something about him being more "mechanical" when he is Mafia? ##Vote: LS Note the bolded in above post. On December 29 2016 08:29 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 08:26 darthfoley wrote:
Grack, ExO: what do you guys think about going Koshi? I am most comfortable with LS or Koshi ATM. I honestly think LS is the better lynch. But obviously I'm willing to switch to Koshi. On December 29 2016 08:32 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 08:31 disformation wrote:On December 29 2016 08:24 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 08:20 disformation wrote:On December 29 2016 08:17 darthfoley wrote:On December 29 2016 08:15 disformation wrote:On December 29 2016 08:14 disformation wrote:On December 29 2016 08:12 Grackaroni wrote:
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I do. should have specified: I dont mind the first sentence. I really do not like the second. I should go to bed. specifically i dislike the "Outside of that, I don't really know what you've done to push anyone or to push the game forward." because i feel it is not true at all Yea okay you've now used three posts to tell us you don't like it. Why is it not true? Who/what has he pushed that have been original points? On December 27 2016 12:11 LightningStrike wrote:
I going to put a vote on Koshi for right now because his opening was pure shit and not like any town opening I remember him doing.
##Vote: Koshi On December 27 2016 12:15 LightningStrike wrote:
I also really liking ExO already too he trying to push a town agenda and get this game rolling off the bat. On December 27 2016 14:05 LightningStrike wrote:
Tbh Grack's defense of Koshi is a little bit strange can't remember if he did the same thing regarding me in my very first game together. Anyways I think we should leave Slam alone and see what he does because one of the ways Geript had a good read on to Slam is if Slam does his own thing which would mean he would be town so I rather see what he does later. On December 28 2016 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:On December 28 2016 03:45 disformation wrote:
I like GB.
I like Koshi liking GB.
I dislike Koshi liking ExO_
but tbh Im just policy voting ExO_ :D Pretty terrible policy vote tbh. I think he's more likely town than scum at this point and we shouldn't lynch him. On December 28 2016 10:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Nothing really was going on and post game of the other game just started.
@Darth thoughts on Koshi? On December 28 2016 11:04 LightningStrike wrote:
I too think Grack is potential mafia too due to how when I was hard pushing you Koshi earlier he kept trying to steer it away to Slam who we both know is harder to read based on pure pushing. Really? The original Koshi push was a follow up of ExO's push. There's a bunch of duplicate town reads on ExO And then 2 posts on my Koshi post that DF (and I) already addressed. Now here's an experiment for you. Go through my filter just starting around page 5 or 6 and make a comparison. I dont think LS filter will ever look like one of yours regardless of alignment. If only based on the fact that he isnt posting as much. But I think I feel actually better not lynching you. That's a fair point. But I've definitely had games where I've gotten strong town feelings from LS before and this just isn't one of those for me. On December 29 2016 08:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Killing Koshi was my primary goal for today but I don't feel all that great about the way it has happened lol. On December 29 2016 08:57 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 08:56 darthfoley wrote:
Why is Grack not voting Koshi after getting lots of us to vote Koshi? I'm feeling nervous about how easily this lynch is happening when so many people were hard townreading Koshi when I started posting today. On December 29 2016 08:58 Grackaroni wrote:
Anyway I'll consolidate. TBH it is not as slam dunk as I did remember it. But there are two things that stick out: "Can we lynch LS? I think he's more likely to be scum than Koshi. Koshi was just bothering me more." "Killing Koshi was my primary goal for today but I don't feel all that great about the way it has happened lol." Primary goal for today doesnt sound town at all to me, but more like it was his mafia agenda for the day. And getting the guy lynched that was scumreading you, is a damn fine goal for scum. And again if LS is more scummy, why was Koshi the primary goal? Just weird to state it like that as town. The progression itself isnt that horrible. Picks up a bunch of points on LS, makes a small case wants him over koshi. Gets confused when suddenly everyone wants koshi. Though that confusing can him being knowing koshi will flip green and not knowing what the best position is here for him, cause that will have caught scum by surprise too. So not as slam dunk as I thought, but it is still pretty bad. This is not all that different than what my take-away from rereading Gracks EoD was. I feel like a Scum!Grack would be all too happy to go back to Koshi given the investment he made in pushing him earlier in the day. Having cold feet about Koshi when he did seems more like a paranoid townie to me than mafia making their own position look shit. @ BtDt I think it is shit that you got super uppity and aggressive about us pushing you for clearly making no attempt to play the game. Then after the flip you've been in everyone's face placing blame. Have you even fully read the game at this point? Like there is just this huge disconnect between your opening post and everything after that, and it all just SCREAMS playing for survival to me.
actually decent point on grack.
still worried about the two lines I pointed out though.
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Time Traveller
On December 29 2016 06:39 Time Traveler wrote:
I filtered LS and I liked it at the beggining. He seemed to be consistent with his reads and such, but I do not like how he, after scumreading Koshi, decides to vote Grack after he Koshi makes a post about why people should lynch Grack. Then he says that it is because Grack is more likely to be Mafia than Koshi, and this is because he defended Koshi. Huuuh. Sounds strange that the person who defends his scum read gets scum read as well.
On December 29 2016 07:40 Time Traveler wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 07:39 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 07:38 Time Traveler wrote:On December 29 2016 07:34 Tictock wrote:
Oh wow Ninja vote from Traveler.
Humm... Your vote system here in TL is strange as fuck. Normally we explain why we're voting for somebody here before we vote in the voting thread. Well, then I can say that I voted BtDt because #yolo.
On December 29 2016 08:00 Time Traveler wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 07:57 ExO_ wrote:
isn't it a 3 post minimum though? As per the rules? Won't he still get replaced with only 1?
Either way I guess I'm okay with this If that's right, I wouldn't mind unvoting him.
On December 29 2016 08:26 Time Traveler wrote:
Yeah, I'm unvoting BtDt. I kinda random voted him because it was mandatory and I didn't have anyone clear in mind. And I still do not who to vote. Hum.
On December 29 2016 08:44 Time Traveler wrote:
Also, I voted Superbia because I don't expect him to be voted by anyone else. So you can consider that a null vote.
On December 29 2016 08:47 Time Traveler wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:45 ExO_ wrote:On December 29 2016 08:44 Time Traveler wrote:
Also, I voted Superbia because I don't expect him to be voted by anyone else. So you can consider that a null vote. Why would you actively want to waste your vote, and what gave you the expectation that nobody else would vote him? Maybe you want to not use something in order to not cause harm and you don't know how to use it correctly, than incorrectly use it. I hope that made sense. And no one is voting him, so I guess he won't be killed.
@Time Traveller:
why didnt you vote LS when that wagon came up? You implied being not too happy with his filter earlier. Yet I see no mention of LS in your filter when he was up for vote.
Don't know what to say about this. Feel like I am not really in a good position to complain about him avoiding any stances at EoD. Really needs to put out some decent reads, soon.
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LightningStrike
First thing: he is voting his #1 scumread together with his #2 scumread. Even sheeping his #2 scumreads read.
But he states:
On December 29 2016 07:30 LightningStrike wrote:I home for just for a few minutes will answer some questions then I will have to answer on mobile: Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 06:04 Tictock wrote:
Decided to take a walk kus I don't feel like giving up my whole day off for this game.
@LS
While I agree that between Koshi and Grack, Grack looks more likely to be scum, I don't like how you are pushing that there MUST be mafia in Grack/Koshi.
Also all I have really seen from you this game is sheeping Exo on Koshi and now sheeping Koshi on Grack. Becuase something in the tone between them plus how they interacted with each other don't seem like TvT but more like TvS. Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 06:31 GlowingBear wrote:
GRACK IS NOT THE LYNCH TODAY
HE WON'T BE THE LYNCH TODAY.
I REFUSE TO LET THAT HAPPEN
He has one of the biggest filter atm and he has been here commenting stuff.
My suggestion is that we lynch Time Traveler/disformation No we lynching Grack Time Traveler and dis look better than him in my opinion. Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 06:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
oh shit
forgot about this game, have my gf here :<
will catch up tomorrow.
voting tictock because I have to vote This post from btdt is pretty bad and idk why he voting Tictock atm.
It is TvS. Him thinking Grack is the scum, should kinda imply Koshi is town, or at least be way less likely to be town. So I can kinda see him do that vote.
Thing that annoys me is that he goes afk like 45mins b4 the deadline and therefore we have no in time comment on the koshi wagon. He comes back way later with an excuse... that sounds pretty deja vu like to my last game where he was scum.
He also vanishes kinda at a time, where ppl were discussing a LS lynch, but i didnt look like it would gain much traction?
Last post is:
On December 29 2016 08:13 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:11 darthfoley wrote:On December 29 2016 08:10 LightningStrike wrote:On December 29 2016 08:08 darthfoley wrote:On December 28 2016 06:23 LightningStrike wrote:On December 28 2016 04:46 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't understand how Koshi is town reading LS. He came back recently and he was still focused entirely on Koshi's first post.
He's probably the most likely mafia at this point. You be suprised how hard I can tunnel as town. Yet you haven't tunneled anyone. You also added onto Koshi's case on Grack with a bad point onto a case that was already bad. Outside of that, I don't really know what you've done to push anyone or to push the game forward. I might be tunneled atm but I been pushing grack all day was pushing Koshi yesterday. Why would scum!Grack defend town!Koshi early d1? Easy town credit especially that early.
At that time he had 1 vote on him.
btdt comes in 8mins later.
so yeah I dont like him vanishing without warning 45mins b4 deadline and then coming back with IRL excuses. He did the exact same as scum last game.
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/inthegamewithchez
But I am low on time
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These posts are good Disfo.
I'll take responsibility for the Koshi lynch. I had expected LS to be the one to get lynched, as there were lots of people that had either town read Koshi or had him on a list of people they wouldn't lynch day 1. I got cold feet on the Koshi lynch when Chez/Btdt joined the Koshi lynch and nobody else jumped on LS or any other lynch.
The primary goal thing should be explained if you look back at when I first came back to the thread during the second half of day 1. Koshi's response was bothering me and then he issued a challenge for me to lynch him.
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On December 29 2016 07:30 LightningStrike wrote:I home for just for a few minutes will answer some questions then I will have to answer on mobile: Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 06:04 Tictock wrote:
Decided to take a walk kus I don't feel like giving up my whole day off for this game.
@LS
While I agree that between Koshi and Grack, Grack looks more likely to be scum, I don't like how you are pushing that there MUST be mafia in Grack/Koshi.
Also all I have really seen from you this game is sheeping Exo on Koshi and now sheeping Koshi on Grack. Becuase something in the tone between them plus how they interacted with each other don't seem like TvT but more like TvS. Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 06:31 GlowingBear wrote:
GRACK IS NOT THE LYNCH TODAY
HE WON'T BE THE LYNCH TODAY.
I REFUSE TO LET THAT HAPPEN
He has one of the biggest filter atm and he has been here commenting stuff.
My suggestion is that we lynch Time Traveler/disformation No we lynching Grack Time Traveler and dis look better than him in my opinion. Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 06:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
oh shit
forgot about this game, have my gf here :<
will catch up tomorrow.
voting tictock because I have to vote This post from btdt is pretty bad and idk why he voting Tictock atm.
Explain to me how you go from this post, to your next post saying this.
On December 29 2016 07:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Also btdt is a terrible lynch because we wont get any information regarding anything tbh.
Then finally this
On December 29 2016 07:33 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 07:31 Grackaroni wrote:On December 29 2016 07:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Also btdt is a terrible lynch because we wont get any information regarding anything tbh. Why not? Any lynch should be informative today. btdt only post was the one I quoted so we wont have anything to really go on except maybe people's reasoning but even then it's meh in my opinion.
I understand you left before btdt went on his EoD desperate tirade thing, but how do you go from saying his post is "pretty bad," implying scum then turn around and say his lynch would be terrible. While it's true that his lynch may not have given us the "most" information, how could lynching someone who's very scummy be terrible?
Especially when the guy you're sheeping is the one on the chopping block. You post this before you go
On December 29 2016 07:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay his[Koshi??] posts are okay enough that at least I got a second lead if he flips scum and if he flips town I can see his thought process better. Anyways going to be on mobile now.
So in that post you say you're okay with Koshi being the lynch after you sheep him the whole day? You're okay with him being the lynch over someone you thought was pretty scummy?
Also you said that you would have a bunch of info regardless of Koshi's flip. Let's hear it
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On December 30 2016 01:59 disformation wrote:LightningStrikeFirst thing: he is voting his #1 scumread together with his #2 scumread. Even sheeping his #2 scumreads read. But he states: Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 07:30 LightningStrike wrote:I home for just for a few minutes will answer some questions then I will have to answer on mobile: On December 29 2016 06:04 Tictock wrote:
Decided to take a walk kus I don't feel like giving up my whole day off for this game.
@LS
While I agree that between Koshi and Grack, Grack looks more likely to be scum, I don't like how you are pushing that there MUST be mafia in Grack/Koshi.
Also all I have really seen from you this game is sheeping Exo on Koshi and now sheeping Koshi on Grack. Becuase something in the tone between them plus how they interacted with each other don't seem like TvT but more like TvS. On December 29 2016 06:31 GlowingBear wrote:
GRACK IS NOT THE LYNCH TODAY
HE WON'T BE THE LYNCH TODAY.
I REFUSE TO LET THAT HAPPEN
He has one of the biggest filter atm and he has been here commenting stuff.
My suggestion is that we lynch Time Traveler/disformation No we lynching Grack Time Traveler and dis look better than him in my opinion. On December 29 2016 06:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
oh shit
forgot about this game, have my gf here :<
will catch up tomorrow.
voting tictock because I have to vote This post from btdt is pretty bad and idk why he voting Tictock atm. It is TvS. Him thinking Grack is the scum, should kinda imply Koshi is town, or at least be way less likely to be town. So I can kinda see him do that vote. Thing that annoys me is that he goes afk like 45mins b4 the deadline and therefore we have no in time comment on the koshi wagon. He comes back way later with an excuse... that sounds pretty deja vu like to my last game where he was scum. He also vanishes kinda at a time, where ppl were discussing a LS lynch, but i didnt look like it would gain much traction? Last post is: Show nested quote +On December 29 2016 08:13 LightningStrike wrote:On December 29 2016 08:11 darthfoley wrote:On December 29 2016 08:10 LightningStrike wrote:On December 29 2016 08:08 darthfoley wrote:On December 28 2016 06:23 LightningStrike wrote:On December 28 2016 04:46 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't understand how Koshi is town reading LS. He came back recently and he was still focused entirely on Koshi's first post.
He's probably the most likely mafia at this point. You be suprised how hard I can tunnel as town. Yet you haven't tunneled anyone. You also added onto Koshi's case on Grack with a bad point onto a case that was already bad. Outside of that, I don't really know what you've done to push anyone or to push the game forward. I might be tunneled atm but I been pushing grack all day was pushing Koshi yesterday. Why would scum!Grack defend town!Koshi early d1? Easy town credit especially that early. At that time he had 1 vote on him. btdt comes in 8mins later. so yeah I dont like him vanishing without warning 45mins b4 deadline and then coming back with IRL excuses. He did the exact same as scum last game.
Well you were hard defending him against my wagon near EoD, so what is your overall conclusion read of him right now?
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