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NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 13 2016 12:43 GMT
#3361
HF scum-read you for being bad. He said it.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 13 2016 12:45 GMT
#3362
On October 13 2016 21:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 21:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 13 2016 21:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 13 2016 21:22 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 13 2016 17:59 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 13 2016 07:58 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On October 13 2016 06:37 scott31337 wrote:
Okay - time to look back into Calix's massive posting for clues - but probably all green checks with this voting pattern. lovely

She had a red-check on Damdred.

We are voting JAT regardless. If you are town, follow me. Vote Jat.

Why Jat over Damdred?

Both are 100% scum. Jat is the mafia power wolf. He is the one who will go into 2v1 LyLo and convince a townie of voting anyone but him. If I don't get him lynched today, he will never be lynched because they're killing me tonight.

Plus, marv was green checked. If we want to be sure that he is not the godfather that appeared town to Calix's check, we have to lynch the other mafia. Damdred was red-checked, so we know he isn't GF. Could be framer, granted, but that's besides the point.

It's triple Lylo, the order in which we lynch the scum does not really matter except for Jat who I can see convincing noobs of not voting for him.

The order actually matters a lot in the sense that we absolutely need to lynch the player with the highest chance of being mafia. Because we cannot fail today. The only reason you want to lynch me is because you want to pat your ego for lynching the "power wolf". If people are so stupid for possibly townreading me then why did you take me out of your mafia list last night? Yeah. You only put me in again because marv was greenchecked and for some idiotic reason you are 100 % ignoring oats who hasn't done shit for days and days. I will tell you a secret: the reason people think I am towny is that I am town.
You are literally saying we should lynch me for being towny compared to your other scumreads.

That is the dumbest shit I had to read 2016 which actually means a lot since you posted almost 600 times in this thread.

It actually makes a lot of sense to lynch you today. If we lynch Damdred then Scott, LyLo is Oats+Marv+You with only Oats being semi-confirmed town. Semi-afk Oats + AFK marv = low chances of success.

Marv/you is who we should lynch today. That's the coin flip that'll happen at LyLo anyways.

How on earth is oats semi-confirmed town?

Marv/me are literally the last people you should lynch today. I am town, he is green checked. This is record level terrible.

There is one VT slot left to claim in my PoE pool. Marv being green-checked means he have 50% chance of being GF, 50% chance of being VT.

Maybe. But your PoE pool is shit. There is 0 reason to consider oats as town.

Try convincing me otherwise then.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
October 13 2016 12:46 GMT
#3363
On October 13 2016 21:43 NeverUnlucky wrote:
HF scum-read you for being bad. He said it.

HF explicitly said I was null right before he died. Go read it if it is this important to you.

Fact is I am town and you are losing if you are town and lynch me today. And your irrational fear of "other people fucking up later" is unfounded anyways. As long as you are pushing for me to be lynched and oats to be confirmed town you will not die in the night. We do not lynch marv either because unlike you he WILL die in the night before 2v1 LYLO if he is town.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 13 2016 12:47 GMT
#3364
Mafia has no reason to kill someone who's in the PoE pool, lol. Koshi and I are the first and only ones to go no matter how bad our reads are.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
October 13 2016 12:48 GMT
#3365
The only reasonable thing to do today is to get the save scumlynch and work from there. Because then you actually have reliable information to figure out the people you are not entirely sure of. In my case those are marv/koshi.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
October 13 2016 12:49 GMT
#3366
On October 13 2016 21:47 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Mafia has no reason to kill someone who's in the PoE pool, lol. Koshi and I are the first and only ones to go no matter how bad our reads are.

You are pushing mafias agenda. You will not die ever. Mafia will get rid of a confirmed town marv as soon as they can.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 13 2016 12:52 GMT
#3367
I don't think they can kill one of their own.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
October 13 2016 12:59 GMT
#3368
Fine, then marv will be obvious mafia in 2v1 LYLO for not dieing. Lynching him then actually makes sense compared to today. We need to lynch who we are really sure is mafia today.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 13 2016 13:03 GMT
#3369
Re-post of marv's reads.

On October 11 2016 20:14 marvellosity wrote:
don't mind what Calix had to say about Damdred (read last 3 pages of Calix's filter + Damdred's filter).

Damdred could easily be mafia but I don't know how to say so with any confidence. I agree with Calix that Damdred's long defence post was quite poor.

On October 11 2016 23:14 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 13:15 scott31337 wrote:
Sorry I've really had a loss of time - friend needed a hand with some things - etc
This week is fall break so work should be slow.

Grack dying instead of basically any body else makes me think my reads are crap.

I'll be tearing it up tomorrow.

What's the rationale for this exactly?

Also no tearing it up occurred.

scott can easily be mafia because there's been no interesting thought whatsoever. I don't know how to call him mafia with any confidence, however.

^ This looks like a shy bus. Also worth noting that scott town-reads marv.
On October 11 2016 20:30 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2016 20:27 Koshi wrote:
I would also like to point out that you need to read
Palmar
JAT
Oats
Scott

In that order. But I know you get bitchy when somebody asks you to do things so I better not.

I did read Palmar and I don't think we should lynch him today.

tbh i'm not totally convinced he's town and he can do the 'angry' thing as mafia, but it doesn't read to me that way particularly. I can believe he thinks I'm 100% mafia at this point if he's town

i know i attacked him for his weird HF-switch reading around d1 deadline, but for some reason I got the opposite reaction to what he said about Superbia. (the fact the posts were so close together in his filter
)


Marv + Scott + Damdred makes a lot of sense to me.




Adding that Marv has 1 scum-read alive with Palmar flipping town..
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
October 13 2016 13:17 GMT
#3370
On October 13 2016 21:59 justanothertownie wrote:
Fine, then marv will be obvious mafia in 2v1 LYLO for not dieing. Lynching him then actually makes sense compared to today. We need to lynch who we are really sure is mafia today.

To add to this: Like you said we will hopefully know more about the mafias roles by then. If we for example lynch scott and he flips godfather then marv is literally confirmed town. If we lynch a framer we know marv is at least not godfather and they would have to frame him (much less likely than him being godfather).
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 13 2016 13:17 GMT
#3371
batsnacks (5) - marvellosity, Damdred, Calix, Oatsmaster, NeverUnlucky
Palmar (4) – Grackaroni, Holyflare, Koshi, Superbia
Damdred (1) - batsnacks
Superbia (1) - justanothertownie
Holyflare (1) – Palmar

Palmar (2) - marvellosity, Koshi,
Damdred (1) - Grackaroni
justanothertownie (2) – Palmar, Oatsmaster
marvellosity (1) - Superbia
Superbia (4) - justanothertownie, Calix, NeverUnlucky, scott31337

Palmar (4) – Koshi, marvellosity, Damdred, justanothertownie
Scott31337 (2) - Oatsmaster, Calix, Damdred, [blue]justanothertownie, marvellosity[blue]
Damdred (1) -Calix , scott31337
marvellosity (2) - Palmar, NeverUnlucky
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 13 2016 13:19 GMT
#3372
There's actually a chance of scott being town if you don't look at his awful posts.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
October 13 2016 13:21 GMT
#3373
Why? Do not count day3. I told you he was almost certainly being bussed there initially.
Day1/2 there was not a single mafia really up for lynch so the votecount won't really tell us anything at all.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 13 2016 13:25 GMT
#3374
Damdred who is 100% scum-reads his slot since D1 after Stutters made 4 posts. This could be due to the fact that Damdred knows he is scum, so he hedges his read though.

Scott has been voting Damdred since day 2 also. I didn't put his unvote in the vc, but he did vote damdred on d2 at one point. This would be a dual bus which is possible.

Keep in mind that that's if you don't consider scott's awful posts. He could be town.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
October 13 2016 13:27 GMT
#3375
On October 13 2016 22:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Damdred who is 100% scum-reads his slot since D1 after Stutters made 4 posts. This could be due to the fact that Damdred knows he is scum, so he hedges his read though.

Scott has been voting Damdred since day 2 also. I didn't put his unvote in the vc, but he did vote damdred on d2 at one point. This would be a dual bus which is possible.

Keep in mind that that's if you don't consider scott's awful posts. He could be town.

Ok. Fair enough.

But you are operating under the assumption that damdred was 100 % redchecked. I do not see that. If there was something in your weird chat with calix that proves this you really need to explain.
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 13 2016 13:35 GMT
#3376
Dude, he doesn't even need to be red-checked to be 100% scum. Look at who pressured him: Bats-Lynched, Grack-Night killed, Calix-NightKilled, me- :D.

Only town pressured this guy. If you look at his defense vs me and Calix, you'll see that he is scum easily as well. His opportunistic votes are telling also.

Being red-checked is a plus. I won't explain the code, it's irrelevant. I've told you all you needed to know about it: she claimed cop to me while pushing for damdred.

Also, it's obvious that she had a red-check on him from the posts I quoted and from the fact that Calix town-read Damdred from d1 to d2 and started being suspicious of him once I filter-dove Damdred and showed y'all why he was obv. scum. She pushed him hard d3.

DDD is 100% scum, debating about him is waste of time.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
October 13 2016 13:40 GMT
#3377
On October 13 2016 22:35 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Dude, he doesn't even need to be red-checked to be 100% scum. Look at who pressured him: Bats-Lynched, Grack-Night killed, Calix-NightKilled, me- :D.

Only town pressured this guy. If you look at his defense vs me and Calix, you'll see that he is scum easily as well. His opportunistic votes are telling also.

Being red-checked is a plus. I won't explain the code, it's irrelevant. I've told you all you needed to know about it: she claimed cop to me while pushing for damdred.

Also, it's obvious that she had a red-check on him from the posts I quoted and from the fact that Calix town-read Damdred from d1 to d2 and started being suspicious of him once I filter-dove Damdred and showed y'all why he was obv. scum. She pushed him hard d3.

DDD is 100% scum, debating about him is waste of time.

Explaining the code is very relevant. I would expect calix to claim a redcheck without any ambiguity. Especially since he did this for her greencheck too.

The likelihood that damdred is mafia is very high in general - that is true. But from calix' posting I do not see how it has to be a red check instead of a very strong scumread.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
October 13 2016 13:40 GMT
#3378
she* damn
NeverUnlucky
Profile Joined August 2016
Canada1622 Posts
October 13 2016 13:44 GMT
#3379
On October 13 2016 22:40 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 22:35 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Dude, he doesn't even need to be red-checked to be 100% scum. Look at who pressured him: Bats-Lynched, Grack-Night killed, Calix-NightKilled, me- :D.

Only town pressured this guy. If you look at his defense vs me and Calix, you'll see that he is scum easily as well. His opportunistic votes are telling also.

Being red-checked is a plus. I won't explain the code, it's irrelevant. I've told you all you needed to know about it: she claimed cop to me while pushing for damdred.

Also, it's obvious that she had a red-check on him from the posts I quoted and from the fact that Calix town-read Damdred from d1 to d2 and started being suspicious of him once I filter-dove Damdred and showed y'all why he was obv. scum. She pushed him hard d3.

DDD is 100% scum, debating about him is waste of time.

Explaining the code is very relevant. I would expect calix to claim a redcheck without any ambiguity. Especially since he did this for her greencheck too.

The likelihood that damdred is mafia is very high in general - that is true. But from calix' posting I do not see how it has to be a red check instead of a very strong scumread.

Then she did not meet your expectations.

Dude, I have no reason as town to come up with a fake red-check of someone who died. You don't scum-read me, so I don't know why you are doubting me.
"The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally." -darthfoley
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
October 13 2016 13:47 GMT
#3380
On October 13 2016 22:44 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2016 22:40 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 13 2016 22:35 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Dude, he doesn't even need to be red-checked to be 100% scum. Look at who pressured him: Bats-Lynched, Grack-Night killed, Calix-NightKilled, me- :D.

Only town pressured this guy. If you look at his defense vs me and Calix, you'll see that he is scum easily as well. His opportunistic votes are telling also.

Being red-checked is a plus. I won't explain the code, it's irrelevant. I've told you all you needed to know about it: she claimed cop to me while pushing for damdred.

Also, it's obvious that she had a red-check on him from the posts I quoted and from the fact that Calix town-read Damdred from d1 to d2 and started being suspicious of him once I filter-dove Damdred and showed y'all why he was obv. scum. She pushed him hard d3.

DDD is 100% scum, debating about him is waste of time.

Explaining the code is very relevant. I would expect calix to claim a redcheck without any ambiguity. Especially since he did this for her greencheck too.

The likelihood that damdred is mafia is very high in general - that is true. But from calix' posting I do not see how it has to be a red check instead of a very strong scumread.

Then she did not meet your expectations.

Dude, I have no reason as town to come up with a fake red-check of someone who died. You don't scum-read me, so I don't know why you are doubting me.

I am not doubting your alignment/that you think you are telling the truth. I am doubting your interpretation of her posts.
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