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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 25 2016 19:15 GMT
#510
i'll mod you if you don't say your thoughts on my case
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 25 2016 19:17 GMT
#514
I read DUH's filter and made a post about it and anyone can say stuff on it.

scott is forgettable as hell so can do that too but lynatic is better because of WIFOM and stuff
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 25 2016 19:19 GMT
#520
yay rels read it :D I was startig to think people were just ignoring my posts because lol lengths because a lot of my questions were not being answered? Like they're not massively important questions or I'd repeat it but it is bugging me a bit you know?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 25 2016 19:24 GMT
#527
wtf is everyone voting here for? vote in the vote thread, morons
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 25 2016 19:26 GMT
#528
On September 26 2016 04:24 DoYouHas wrote:
@Calix - My read on SEQ in the post you looked at is in no way null. I described him as jumping in with both feet and actively scumhunting. Those are town attributes.


you didn't make it explict which is why I was confused and I don't think they're town tells because scum can scum-hunt also or else they'd stick out and be well obvious yeah? but i can kinda see why people would make that mistake
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 25 2016 19:39 GMT
#535
I don't like the new additions to the train tbh

(iy's in order right?)
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 25 2016 19:49 GMT
#543
maybe? but we have like two hours so who knows what might happen int hat time lol. seven people and eight if you incude jealous fail voting = 100% scum on that wagon no question. Just wonder if it's a Ml or bussing

everytime danny says xe it makes me think of tumblah
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 25 2016 19:55 GMT
#553
super what do you mean with 550?

imma read scott now brb
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 25 2016 20:01 GMT
#563
well I don't think scotties filter is that bad because there are soe attempts at sorting people which is good. Which isn't ultra townie or anything but it's something that makes me inclined towards a d1 pass like with SEQ and co. Although I don't agree with much of it and his jump from kinda defending Lunatic to voting for him is pretty awkward so his thoygth process there = A.

Don't really get his stutters read either but will look at that in more detal later.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 25 2016 20:07 GMT
#568
xanatos pls, if you want a second target then say one instead of doing "well maybe scottie but nah but if enough people think so" lol you sound like jealous
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 25 2016 20:09 GMT
#570
also going 'it's for vca' might tip off the scum so future votes will be tainted by teh WIFOM
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 25 2016 20:15 GMT
#577
I don't see how people not unanimously agreieng that Lunatic is #1 lynch means anything because nobody is doing anything to start up a new wagon. Superbia's was like a placer vote if anything because Lunatic has 7 8 votes already.

also are you implying that all the non-voters are sucm because that's what it sounded like to me lol
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 25 2016 20:17 GMT
#580
I am kinda getting deja vu wrt tt/ scottie and now although nobdoy is pushing for lunatic like they did with tt in HM so doesn't have the same "power wolfing for a ML" vibe that i got from HF in HM
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 25 2016 20:23 GMT
#587
guys we should basically asusm he's not coming because otherwise we just sit on our hands and wiat for stuff to happen that might not happen?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 25 2016 21:29 GMT
#606
On September 26 2016 06:18 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2016 05:53 scott31337 wrote:
On September 26 2016 05:48 Jealous wrote:
## Vote Lunaticman


Want to post any other thoughts on the game Jealous?

I've posted what I deem a sufficient amount about Lunaticman prior to the vote; I actually voted for him in this thread much earlier than most of you, from what I can tell, but I forgot that I have to vote in the other thread. As far as my thoughts as I'm catching up, here's what I have (pretty loose, not on a PC until tomorrow and working until then):

Scott - In my experience Scott is always a man of few words so I don't feel his brevity is AI.

Superbia - welcome back, his type of spam might be what this game needed to be revitalized. I would like to see him speaking more specifically and referencing posts more clearly beyond just saying "I read his filter and I feel x." He also has the convenience of arriving into the thread when everything is more or less set in stone. But, because I myself am busy, I can relate.

Calix - am slightly surprised by her willingness to judge me for not being very confident or conclusive on people in D1 as I feel she knows me well enough to know that this isn't out of the norm. D2 is when I always do a lot of work, so I don't mind that you guys (particularly Rels) are giving me some crap over being soft-spoken because that will all change when I have concrete things to work off of and tie to posts.

Daneler - might be riding on the good feels he got from my posts before I became inactive, but he should have picked up on the general turn of town's opinion on me and the fact that it is reasonable I'm a vacuum. I agree with Rels that I wasn't a big fan of his list post.

Rels - staying on the ball and being assertive with his position, which I like. His going after me is forgivable because as I said it is justifiable and will not be the case come D2.

Xan - it's awkward for me to look back on my phone to make sure that it was him trying to create a second train, but if it was indeed him I'd have to say it seems like a stupid thing to attempt so openly and at this juncture. Stupidity isn't necessarily AI but in theory, taking votes off Lunaticman and creating the potential for shennanies (which are popular on TL and thus unfortunately not always AI)... Could be a dumb scum move. If it was not Xan who did this, attribute the same reasoning to whoever else it was that initiated this thought, and apologies to Xan.

Stutter - still haven't seen anything from him that would make me change my mind about him being my #2 lynch pick.

Nothing that I recall off the top of my head sticks out, but I'm not fully caught up so maybe I'll add some more as I walk to the store before EoD.


Don't think reading into Superbia's timing is going to get anyone anywhere. Details that could be explained very easily by RL are not something that should be considered imo.

Yeah, I am aware of your last game. Somehow you have become even worse since then and that's saying something considering that catch-up post you made last round. Your promise of getting less-shitty has been noted though.

Noticing that a lot of your reads so far are focused on yourself. I don't think you've been the centre of discussion so this strikes me as oddly self-centred.

Not sure who you're referring to with a 'second train' thing. Xatalos said "oh I can get behind a second train but I'm sticking with Lunatic" iirc before dropping it and Superbia was more open about a Scott train and has recently voted I think? Otherwise I don't follow.

Your Stutters read is something I agree on.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 25 2016 21:48 GMT
#612
On September 26 2016 06:43 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2016 06:29 Calix wrote:
On September 26 2016 06:18 Jealous wrote:
On September 26 2016 05:53 scott31337 wrote:
On September 26 2016 05:48 Jealous wrote:
## Vote Lunaticman


Want to post any other thoughts on the game Jealous?

I've posted what I deem a sufficient amount about Lunaticman prior to the vote; I actually voted for him in this thread much earlier than most of you, from what I can tell, but I forgot that I have to vote in the other thread. As far as my thoughts as I'm catching up, here's what I have (pretty loose, not on a PC until tomorrow and working until then):

Scott - In my experience Scott is always a man of few words so I don't feel his brevity is AI.

Superbia - welcome back, his type of spam might be what this game needed to be revitalized. I would like to see him speaking more specifically and referencing posts more clearly beyond just saying "I read his filter and I feel x." He also has the convenience of arriving into the thread when everything is more or less set in stone. But, because I myself am busy, I can relate.

Calix - am slightly surprised by her willingness to judge me for not being very confident or conclusive on people in D1 as I feel she knows me well enough to know that this isn't out of the norm. D2 is when I always do a lot of work, so I don't mind that you guys (particularly Rels) are giving me some crap over being soft-spoken because that will all change when I have concrete things to work off of and tie to posts.

Daneler - might be riding on the good feels he got from my posts before I became inactive, but he should have picked up on the general turn of town's opinion on me and the fact that it is reasonable I'm a vacuum. I agree with Rels that I wasn't a big fan of his list post.

Rels - staying on the ball and being assertive with his position, which I like. His going after me is forgivable because as I said it is justifiable and will not be the case come D2.

Xan - it's awkward for me to look back on my phone to make sure that it was him trying to create a second train, but if it was indeed him I'd have to say it seems like a stupid thing to attempt so openly and at this juncture. Stupidity isn't necessarily AI but in theory, taking votes off Lunaticman and creating the potential for shennanies (which are popular on TL and thus unfortunately not always AI)... Could be a dumb scum move. If it was not Xan who did this, attribute the same reasoning to whoever else it was that initiated this thought, and apologies to Xan.

Stutter - still haven't seen anything from him that would make me change my mind about him being my #2 lynch pick.

Nothing that I recall off the top of my head sticks out, but I'm not fully caught up so maybe I'll add some more as I walk to the store before EoD.


Don't think reading into Superbia's timing is going to get anyone anywhere. Details that could be explained very easily by RL are not something that should be considered imo.

Yeah, I am aware of your last game. Somehow you have become even worse since then and that's saying something considering that catch-up post you made last round. Your promise of getting less-shitty has been noted though.

Noticing that a lot of your reads so far are focused on yourself. I don't think you've been the centre of discussion so this strikes me as oddly self-centred.

Not sure who you're referring to with a 'second train' thing. Xatalos said "oh I can get behind a second train but I'm sticking with Lunatic" iirc before dropping it and Superbia was more open about a Scott train and has recently voted I think? Otherwise I don't follow.

Your Stutters read is something I agree on.

As I said, I'm not taking Superbia's timing into account because we are both in the same boat in that regard.

I really didn't notice too much going on as I skimmed besides what I had already mentioned and covered so ad my name was mentioned quite often I felt it appropriate to address that, because if I don't, who will? Only person who seems to still have a favorable opinion of me is Daneler and even I don't agree with him lol. I guess I could have brought the list up in another window on my phone and flip back and forth in order to give more reasons but I was moving fast in the interest of EoD time and because I feel that the differences between what I have said and he has said would at least cover some of that.

Yes, that is what I was referring to. I'm not sure I like such a blatantly artificial plan. Seems like it'd plant more seeds of confusion than any valuable information, especially since it was done so openly.


I still think my self-centred point stands as your answer only confirmed what I was saying.

What do you mean exactly with your last line of the 2nd paragraph?

What's artificial about considering other lynch options? I didn't notice anything unusual with that. (it makes for better VCA after all)
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 25 2016 22:03 GMT
#625
On September 26 2016 06:57 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2016 06:48 Calix wrote:
On September 26 2016 06:43 Jealous wrote:
On September 26 2016 06:29 Calix wrote:
On September 26 2016 06:18 Jealous wrote:
On September 26 2016 05:53 scott31337 wrote:
On September 26 2016 05:48 Jealous wrote:
## Vote Lunaticman


Want to post any other thoughts on the game Jealous?

I've posted what I deem a sufficient amount about Lunaticman prior to the vote; I actually voted for him in this thread much earlier than most of you, from what I can tell, but I forgot that I have to vote in the other thread. As far as my thoughts as I'm catching up, here's what I have (pretty loose, not on a PC until tomorrow and working until then):

Scott - In my experience Scott is always a man of few words so I don't feel his brevity is AI.

Superbia - welcome back, his type of spam might be what this game needed to be revitalized. I would like to see him speaking more specifically and referencing posts more clearly beyond just saying "I read his filter and I feel x." He also has the convenience of arriving into the thread when everything is more or less set in stone. But, because I myself am busy, I can relate.

Calix - am slightly surprised by her willingness to judge me for not being very confident or conclusive on people in D1 as I feel she knows me well enough to know that this isn't out of the norm. D2 is when I always do a lot of work, so I don't mind that you guys (particularly Rels) are giving me some crap over being soft-spoken because that will all change when I have concrete things to work off of and tie to posts.

Daneler - might be riding on the good feels he got from my posts before I became inactive, but he should have picked up on the general turn of town's opinion on me and the fact that it is reasonable I'm a vacuum. I agree with Rels that I wasn't a big fan of his list post.

Rels - staying on the ball and being assertive with his position, which I like. His going after me is forgivable because as I said it is justifiable and will not be the case come D2.

Xan - it's awkward for me to look back on my phone to make sure that it was him trying to create a second train, but if it was indeed him I'd have to say it seems like a stupid thing to attempt so openly and at this juncture. Stupidity isn't necessarily AI but in theory, taking votes off Lunaticman and creating the potential for shennanies (which are popular on TL and thus unfortunately not always AI)... Could be a dumb scum move. If it was not Xan who did this, attribute the same reasoning to whoever else it was that initiated this thought, and apologies to Xan.

Stutter - still haven't seen anything from him that would make me change my mind about him being my #2 lynch pick.

Nothing that I recall off the top of my head sticks out, but I'm not fully caught up so maybe I'll add some more as I walk to the store before EoD.


Don't think reading into Superbia's timing is going to get anyone anywhere. Details that could be explained very easily by RL are not something that should be considered imo.

Yeah, I am aware of your last game. Somehow you have become even worse since then and that's saying something considering that catch-up post you made last round. Your promise of getting less-shitty has been noted though.

Noticing that a lot of your reads so far are focused on yourself. I don't think you've been the centre of discussion so this strikes me as oddly self-centred.

Not sure who you're referring to with a 'second train' thing. Xatalos said "oh I can get behind a second train but I'm sticking with Lunatic" iirc before dropping it and Superbia was more open about a Scott train and has recently voted I think? Otherwise I don't follow.

Your Stutters read is something I agree on.

As I said, I'm not taking Superbia's timing into account because we are both in the same boat in that regard.

I really didn't notice too much going on as I skimmed besides what I had already mentioned and covered so ad my name was mentioned quite often I felt it appropriate to address that, because if I don't, who will? Only person who seems to still have a favorable opinion of me is Daneler and even I don't agree with him lol. I guess I could have brought the list up in another window on my phone and flip back and forth in order to give more reasons but I was moving fast in the interest of EoD time and because I feel that the differences between what I have said and he has said would at least cover some of that.

Yes, that is what I was referring to. I'm not sure I like such a blatantly artificial plan. Seems like it'd plant more seeds of confusion than any valuable information, especially since it was done so openly.


I still think my self-centred point stands as your answer only confirmed what I was saying.

What do you mean exactly with your last line of the 2nd paragraph?

What's artificial about considering other lynch options? I didn't notice anything unusual with that. (it makes for better VCA after all)

I feel like you might be tunneled on this self-centered sticking point but I don't feel it's quite fair. I might be digging myself an even deeper hole by pursuing this line of discussion but I think it must be addressed. I come back from a long period of inactivity to find that nearly every poster is saying that they are liking me less/scum leaning me. I get asked for my thoughts on the thread by Scott so I address all the points I found pertinent, which obviously included me since nearly everyone has mentioned my name in my absence. So, in order to respond to the people whose mentioning of me stuck out, I am forced to talk about myself and come to my own defense multiple times. It's simply logical, in my opinion. I feel like you only looked at the surface (amount of times I refer to myself) and not the underlying reasons. I'd rather not have something else added to the list of things people are scum leaning me for. Anyway, I think that about covers that issue.

Last line of the second paragraph, I'll rephrase. If I had more time and it wasn't such a pain, I would have brought up the list in a quote or in another page on my phone browser, and addressed the reasons why I didn't like his list more directly. However, because time was short, I didn't. Running out of time now, third point will have to wait.


You must have a weird definition of tunneling because I have only said that I think it's a valid point twice.

It's not just the fact that you mentioned yourself a lot by itself. It's the fact that your post focused a lot more on yourself for almost all of your reads (or initial impressions or whatnot as they're similar to that last-game post) compared to anything else that struck me as funny, you know what I mean?

But that isn't really a point that you can answer anymore than you already have so you'll be better off doing something else.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 25 2016 22:04 GMT
#628
I always find it funny when scum gets fucked Day 1 in a 600-post game compared to the usual town flailing in 6000.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 25 2016 22:09 GMT
#633
I don't think the other wagons are that telling. Pretty sure most, if not all, of the scum are in the late voters. Looking at how people reacted to Lunatic is way better than wagonomics.

Lemme find some of the vote posts now.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
September 25 2016 22:17 GMT
#638
On September 26 2016 04:18 scott31337 wrote:
Allright, so I even asked Luna who he wanted to lynch and didn't even say. He had two wordy posts that didn't have any content. There's a couple other people trying to push other lynches now too - so I feel more confident voting for him.


On September 26 2016 04:18 DoYouHas wrote:
##Vote: Luna

Kind of a shame, in my head he was going to come back strong today and I was going to be able to make a case for Dane over him. But every hour that goes by without him contributing makes it more and more likely he flips scum.


^^^^worst votes 2k16

DYH is textbook bussing. The weird-ass sympathy nails it for me.

Scott's awkward read-hopping looks even worse given that he was low-key defending Lunatic (nobody's contesting his wagon post) before he voted him for some lukewarm reasoning.

Stutters was a "voting so I don't forget" vote and ptmc voted near the very end so that looks like a "vote because it's mandatory" deal, Jealous voted because he agreed with my "Lunatic is more anti-town than the other wagons" argument.

Xatalos/ SEQ voted early on so they are extremely unlikely to be scum for that. Could have easily tried to have made a push on one of the other wagons given that both have some thread presence.
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