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On August 03 2016 04:01 Stutters695 wrote:
Rels, what do you make of my case on Grack? Weird that you don't even mention that.
It seemed OK.
I'm going out so I won't have time to give my thoughts before deadline. But TBF I have nothing incredible to say.
Basically if I die, Skynx' list is exactly where I am at.
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yo
I'm vig and I shot Grac
I wanted to shoot silent but he duelled me
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On August 03 2016 03:41 Grackaroni wrote:
I will not yield, Rels. Oh no, no, no! A fight through the day there shall be!
WHO IS THE STRONGEST NOW BITCH
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I apologize for my lack of involvment this game.
I'll take some hours tonight to get serious about the game
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On August 03 2016 17:13 Skynx wrote:
Nice shit, after like 4 people saying how vigclaim is not the play here
Except it is in my case, 'cause if I didn't people would try to lynch me all day and I would not be able to get the people I want lynched.
PLUS I don't care if I'm being roleblocked cause I don't have any power anymore.
PLUS as long as we have a doc and he doesn't have to claim I cannot die. Maybe scum will roll the dice of the setup being vet / vig instead of doc / vig and shoot me, but they will have a 50/50 chance to have their shot blocked. So I'm a confirmed town with a high chance of surviving.
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On August 03 2016 17:13 Skynx wrote:
Nice shit, after like 4 people saying how vigclaim is not the play here
I've been thinking about it and I think this is a really scummy reaction. In Skynx' mind, before the claim, I was the most likely scum in the game. The lynch today was basically me or silent, according to his list during the night. So me claiming is a fucking GOOD thing for him, as it makes him re evaluate and should push him in the right path instead of wasting time scumreading me.
But Skynx' reaction is the opposite. He is not happy with my claim because "this is not what we decided to do". This makes little sense when he should be happy that a claim showed him at least one of his read was wrong. I would agree that Celestial claiming would be a fucking waste for him: but me, a strong scumread, claiming should be nice for him.
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In addition, I heavily agree with Grac about Lunatic about how his attitude this game doesn't add up at all with his attitude last game as town.
I think I'm gonna push one of Luna / Skynx today.
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On August 03 2016 07:55 silentwarrior wrote:I believe Lunatic is Mafia. Here is why: Lunatic started of the game with saying he think Race was town for his excesive posting. But when Grack said the same thing he says "I don't know how you came to that conclusion" and says it's an easy way to get town points. But Lunatic literally did the same thing 4 posts before.: Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 04:36 Lunaticman wrote:On August 01 2016 00:55 Grackaroni wrote:On August 01 2016 00:50 Stutters695 wrote:On August 01 2016 00:38 Grackaroni wrote:On August 01 2016 00:25 Stutters695 wrote:On July 31 2016 22:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Hey guys, totally reasonable Moosy chipping in here. My totally logical thoughts say that Race Bannon is spamming for the sake of spamming. As a man who employs this technique myself I say it's safe to ignore every post he makes and address him on a later date since he's basically guaranteed to act like a sack of potatoes all of D1. Slight issue is that's totally unreasonable. He was completely capable of producing readable content as both alignments in previous games. This is probably an attempt to shift his meta, although it's almost inconsequential because it is incredibly anti-town. You should read Race Bannon's blog. Page 2 is where it starts to really get good. Can I get a tldr? Gonna lynch him? It is just the LONGEST stream of gibberish that I have ever seen. Celestial is right it looks like Race just got banned for 2 weeks, so a replacement should be on the way. Based on his play so far I think he was more likely to be town. I don't know how you came to that conclusion but since he is being replaced can you please elaborate on this read. Also this is a good way to get town cred now that he is getting replaced. He also says he dosen't want to post a lot because apparently in another game that ticked people off. That is a huge red flag for me. I don't think anyone would not want someone to post a lot. He says he will cutdown posting for that reason. Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 05:32 Lunaticman wrote:On August 01 2016 05:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 01 2016 05:17 Lunaticman wrote:On August 01 2016 04:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 01 2016 00:37 Skynx wrote:On August 01 2016 00:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Eh, not too fond of policy lynches D1 Hahahahaha Hey man I would be dead 85% of the time if people went for policy lynches D1. Care to elaborate why? Ask the other ppl in this game lol. Normally I'm batshit insane but I'm being the super reasonable Moosy right now. Well I don't really know what to make of that tbh, but it sounds super fishy? I think I had to change a few things about my playstyle here also. I ticked of a lot of the other townies last game because of my excessive posting. So guess I will try to cutback a bit on the posting but I just hope we get some discussions going. At that point he had done no analyzing or contributed in the slightest. He then attacks KSC in what can only be desribed as an easy way to get town points. He states that KSC went back on his word, even though he did no such thing and puts words in his mouth. He basically tries to make a case out of nothing. Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 05:38 Lunaticman wrote:On August 01 2016 05:09 KelsierSC wrote:
game starting again cool. Hi i'm town So are you having regrets about something? Your first posts really didn't put you in a good position becauset they were a super lame buss attempt on a "policy lynch" (however I don't think many would disagree on it), I would consider this was more of a towny mistake than anything but if I was town I wouldn't go back on what I said like that without an explination something like: "hey I messed that one up and thought he was super annoying". No intead you were like "Hi I'm town". It's like your just trying to hide what you previously stated. I would definatly not have a problem lynching you for your posting behaviour tbh. When celestial comes in with his big post he becomes his no:1 fanboy and basically tries his best at buddying up with him. The following post is nothing but licking celestials boot. Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 12:11 Lunaticman wrote:On August 01 2016 11:44 -Celestial- wrote:
That'll have to do for tonight I'm afraid. Its nearly four in the morning. My brain was already starting to feel numb about half way through writing that. First I just want to say what an incredible post, I love it! Also no mafia would ever write a post that is so coherent so you are the best town lean in the game for me atm. Tbh I didnt even realize rels was in the game, my god bring out another salt shacker for me lol. Yeah also I think I misunderstood the term bussing, I think I was thinking of like a train? When someone stacks votes on a player. I dont know the proper terminology for it. Be back in a couple of hours from work. Also, he says he cant trust Grac here: Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 04:36 Lunaticman wrote:On August 01 2016 01:52 Skynx wrote:On August 01 2016 01:34 Grackaroni wrote:Ok, I'll be back on tonight. I'd like to see some opinions on this post: On July 31 2016 19:39 silentwarrior wrote:Hi guys, this is my second game on TL. I play mostly irl mafia, but wanted to try this again, first game ended too quick. Ok, so about Race Bannon. He posted a lot in the beginning when not many else did, which is good as it helps town discussion. Granted, most of it was nonsense but he is atleast posting. Don't think he should continue with it later though. But what I wanted to focus on was KelsierSC On July 31 2016 17:12 KelsierSC wrote:
This game is fucking stupid. I'll see you all this evening when hopefully something reasonable has been posted. So, his first post he says that this is stupid and is gonna not post anything until the evening when something "reasonable" has been posted. But why not post yourself? Maybe say something reasonable yourself. Going away for hours without posting does not help us. On July 31 2016 19:07 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm not putting up with this shit for the whole game
##vote Race Bannon
See you all in a few days Then this, where he votes for Race Bannon (which is not what I have a problem with), but then states "See you all in a few days". Again, stating his intention to not post. I think not wanting to post and waiting for others seems like something scum would do. ##vote Kelsier SC I don't like this actually. Feels like he's just trying to find reason to sr someone. I mean you don't force some1 into contribute and half the thread was afk anyways. You can ask his opinions befroe he goes away try to spark some activity but voting because he doesnt contribute cuz cba is weak. It feels like you are also sceptical of Grac, I don't know if I will be able to trust him. Also I think he is playing similar to last game so far. I don't know if that is good or bad. The big difference is that he is contributing "more" atm so that should indicate he is towny? But just a few posts after he calls him town after his skepticism isn't shared by skynx. He then goes back on his word twice on grack in one post. He says he thinks he is probably town but will "wait and see". Basically not wanting to take a stance at all and keeping his options open, very scumlike. Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 18:40 Lunaticman wrote:On August 01 2016 14:51 Skynx wrote:On August 01 2016 04:36 Lunaticman wrote:On August 01 2016 01:52 Skynx wrote:On August 01 2016 01:34 Grackaroni wrote:Ok, I'll be back on tonight. I'd like to see some opinions on this post: On July 31 2016 19:39 silentwarrior wrote:Hi guys, this is my second game on TL. I play mostly irl mafia, but wanted to try this again, first game ended too quick. Ok, so about Race Bannon. He posted a lot in the beginning when not many else did, which is good as it helps town discussion. Granted, most of it was nonsense but he is atleast posting. Don't think he should continue with it later though. But what I wanted to focus on was KelsierSC On July 31 2016 17:12 KelsierSC wrote:
This game is fucking stupid. I'll see you all this evening when hopefully something reasonable has been posted. So, his first post he says that this is stupid and is gonna not post anything until the evening when something "reasonable" has been posted. But why not post yourself? Maybe say something reasonable yourself. Going away for hours without posting does not help us. On July 31 2016 19:07 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm not putting up with this shit for the whole game
##vote Race Bannon
See you all in a few days Then this, where he votes for Race Bannon (which is not what I have a problem with), but then states "See you all in a few days". Again, stating his intention to not post. I think not wanting to post and waiting for others seems like something scum would do. ##vote Kelsier SC I don't like this actually. Feels like he's just trying to find reason to sr someone. I mean you don't force some1 into contribute and half the thread was afk anyways. You can ask his opinions befroe he goes away try to spark some activity but voting because he doesnt contribute cuz cba is weak. It feels like you are also sceptical of Grac, I don't know if I will be able to trust him. Also I think he is playing similar to last game so far. I don't know if that is good or bad. The big difference is that he is contributing "more" atm so that should indicate he is towny? He asked for people's opinions, I gave one, how's that being sceptical of anyone? Also previous games shouldn't have an effect on how you approach people if they are not massive trolls. If you feel like you have such a good feel in his playstyle after 1 game and can meta read him based off of that 24h into a new game please inform us. That's what I did I must say I think he played brilliantly last game so of course I put him under the spotlight. I think he is probably town since it feels like he's intention is to solve the game atm. But he already fooled me once so we will have to wait and see I suppose. He then puts his vote on Rels, who was still inactive at that point. He was probably the easiest vote seeing as he was inactive. No one would even think twice about it, not even rels. After that he goes on to say that rels should accept resposibility for mislynching mderg, which makes no sense. Mderg was honestly acting scummy, and having mislynched someone obv don't make you mafia. Also, now that some of the thread have moved against Grac, he flips again from previous position and calls grac scummy. To me all this points that Lunatic is Mafia.
This is a pretty good case.
##Vote Lunatic
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On August 03 2016 20:00 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2016 19:29 Rels wrote:On August 03 2016 17:13 Skynx wrote:
Nice shit, after like 4 people saying how vigclaim is not the play here I've been thinking about it and I think this is a really scummy reaction. In Skynx' mind, before the claim, I was the most likely scum in the game. The lynch today was basically me or silent, according to his list during the night. So me claiming is a fucking GOOD thing for him, as it makes him re evaluate and should push him in the right path instead of wasting time scumreading me. But Skynx' reaction is the opposite. He is not happy with my claim because "this is not what we decided to do". This makes little sense when he should be happy that a claim showed him at least one of his read was wrong. I would agree that Celestial claiming would be a fucking waste for him: but me, a strong scumread, claiming should be nice for him. I've been thinking about it and I think this is a really scummy reaction. If you're actually vigi, claiming before next EoN would make your claim undeniable, not right now. What is pushing the "right" part in your opinion here? Grack flipped green so it clears Silent? You are confirmed town so only lynch now is Scott?
I didn't claim right before deadline because I was sleeping.
I don't understand what you are saying in that second part of your post. What I'm saying is that you should be happy that I claim cause now you know that I'm town and you can push whoever you want, silent or scsott being the most logical that is true given your list. Nothing you've written addresses this.
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On August 03 2016 20:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Hey Rels, do u have a delicious role breadcrumb or nah
no
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On August 04 2016 00:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2016 21:18 Rels wrote:On August 03 2016 20:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Hey Rels, do u have a delicious role breadcrumb or nah no  you're slipping mahn.
I don't think I ever breadcrumb as blue p: all my breadcrumbs were always as scum
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On August 04 2016 00:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Hey Rels, how are you enjoying the totally suave and totally reasonable Moosy?
I hate it.
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Yeah Lunatic dude couldn't help but post every 30 seconds in the previous game, but can't be assed to post for days here. Mafia, or he has some IRL urgencies. Let's hope it's not the latter.
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On August 04 2016 22:39 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2016 08:17 beentheredonethat wrote:Okay. Not much happened. Rels is confirmed town / un-cc'ed vig. I like Celestial a lot although his posting volume has dropped from D1 into a more lazy D2 so far. Town. Kelsier might very well be lurky scum. He voted, left the thread. No contribution at all. But as others pointed out already, also low-hanging mislynch fruit, so yeh, he needs to step up. MoosyDoosy. He played so shitty in the last game we had as town, totally yolo, and while I have techincally nothing that makes me think he's scum, I still have that weird gut feeling of "he's 180 degree changed since last game". J Roc. I think I completely disregarded this guy so far. So here we go. + Show Spoiler +On July 31 2016 20:31 J Roc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2016 19:39 silentwarrior wrote:Hi guys, this is my second game on TL. I play mostly irl mafia, but wanted to try this again, first game ended too quick. Ok, so about Race Bannon. He posted a lot in the beginning when not many else did, which is good as it helps town discussion. Granted, most of it was nonsense but he is atleast posting. Don't think he should continue with it later though. But what I wanted to focus on was KelsierSC On July 31 2016 17:12 KelsierSC wrote:
This game is fucking stupid. I'll see you all this evening when hopefully something reasonable has been posted. So, his first post he says that this is stupid and is gonna not post anything until the evening when something "reasonable" has been posted. But why not post yourself? Maybe say something reasonable yourself. Going away for hours without posting does not help us. On July 31 2016 19:07 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm not putting up with this shit for the whole game
##vote Race Bannon
See you all in a few days Then this, where he votes for Race Bannon (which is not what I have a problem with), but then states "See you all in a few days". Again, stating his intention to not post. I think not wanting to post and waiting for others seems like something scum would do. ##vote Kelsier SC This post. Spaming the thread doesnt help town in anyway. If anything it shuts down discussion because people dont want to deal with him. Normally I dont like policy lynches day one but here I dont mind the vote going on Bannon. Your problem is that someone posting shouldnt be voted. But when that person is doing nothing constructive and just posting nonsense it does nothing. So you reason for voting Kelsier is bad. While I dont like the fact that he said be back in a few days I had no problem with his vote and dont like your reason for voting him when he is putting pressure on someone who frankly needs pressure put on him. I think this is a town indicative post. At this point he could easily go for RB but states very clearly why it isn't necessarily a good idea. What is interesting is that he, contrary to me, absolutely dislikes scott's entrance: + Show Spoiler +On August 01 2016 20:30 J Roc wrote:
Just something real quick and I will be back later.
I really hated scotts entrance.
Race Bannons actions completely null and the fact that he came in here saying he knew RB was town from a obs point of view is really off to me.
Also the dude who wrote the huge post. You have pocketed me. Well played. Not voting you.
Ill be back later.
##Vote: Scott He even votes him. + Show Spoiler +On August 02 2016 10:17 J Roc wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 02 2016 10:12 J Roc wrote:On August 02 2016 10:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 02 2016 10:02 J Roc wrote:On August 02 2016 09:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:I also actually don't mind this D1 lynch at all. Good work Rels. And if I may ask old buddy, what's your read on me?  Was a bad lynch, we should have lynched Scott. Would you lynch me and Rels? Wouldn't lynch you at this point. Why would I? Rels needs to be looked at much harder because I disagreed with him on mderg but Scott is scum. scott is scum for his reasoning behind his posts? Or is there anything else? The fact that he just fucked off and let the train happen without doing anything else is really suspicious also. And keeps it up. On August 02 2016 10:28 J Roc wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 10:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also scott is very much correct. There was 100% a mafia or two on Race Bannon at one point or another. The opportunity was too easy to pass up especially since RB was really really low hanging fruit. He was so low, he was basically on the ground. And this is coming from me who uses that playstyle normally. Or Scott is mafia. And up. On August 02 2016 10:32 J Roc wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 10:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also scott is very much correct. There was 100% a mafia or two on Race Bannon at one point or another. The opportunity was too easy to pass up especially since RB was really really low hanging fruit. He was so low, he was basically on the ground. And this is coming from me who uses that playstyle normally. Like seriousness. Nothing race bannon did was alignment indicative, nothing. So you can't say he was low hanging fruit like he was confirmed town. He can play like that as either alignment. And up. Aaand finally: On August 03 2016 18:52 J Roc wrote:
I wont be around much today...
##Vote Scott.
I said there were scum on the mderg wagon. A vigi claimed and a vt flipped. We lynch scott 100% here today. The interesting thing here is that we had three people coming in and being very pushy: Scott, Rels, Roc. Rels is confirmed town, and Roc is going nuts on Scott. But I feel this is town vs. town here. The whole "scott couldn't be so sure in obs that rb is town" argument is weak imho. Having "wrong" thoughts or at least "unsure" opinions can happen, it's a guessing game. Of course this is not clearing scott but as long as there won't be more coming about scott I will not join the wagon that Jroc is trying to establish. Can't continue now for RL reasons, sorry. Will try to drop more stuff. For the time being, I'll join the Lunatic train. Good stuff going on there. ##vote LunaticManStill, JRoc comes on my town pile. Anyone calling me low hanging fruit or reluctant to lynch me is fairly suspicous at this point
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On August 05 2016 02:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
Youre relucting to vote Lunatic or at least I take that from your wording. Why? Also, I feel like youre wrong on scott, he's in my town circle. He's fairly actice, pushy, and I can see where most of his reads come from.
I actually let go of my town lean of you. If Lunatic flips red, I can easily see you bussing here to gain towncred. I am also a bit paranoid about a scott, you and lunatic team but for now the only reason to add Scott to that list is the pterequisite that you are scum, so its highly associative.
I don't get how scott goes from "in my town circle" to "in my Lunatic's likely partners".
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Furthermore you think Lunatic is scum right ?
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On August 05 2016 03:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2016 03:12 Skynx wrote:Man I so lost motivation for dis with work being more hectic than ever + TI n olympix at the same time Hey man, I'm pretty sure you're town so all is well. Just give brief thoughts on lunatic/btdt/anyone else scummy 4u and vote one of them but preferably on lunatic/btdt unless u notice something big.
Well who are you your two most liekly scums ? Cause it seemed like it was Lunatic + Celestial
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On August 05 2016 03:16 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2016 02:55 Rels wrote:On August 05 2016 02:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
Youre relucting to vote Lunatic or at least I take that from your wording. Why? Also, I feel like youre wrong on scott, he's in my town circle. He's fairly actice, pushy, and I can see where most of his reads come from.
I actually let go of my town lean of you. If Lunatic flips red, I can easily see you bussing here to gain towncred. I am also a bit paranoid about a scott, you and lunatic team but for now the only reason to add Scott to that list is the pterequisite that you are scum, so its highly associative. I don't get how scott goes from "in my town circle" to "in my Lunatic's likely partners". Thats why I said highly associative. If lunatic plus celestial are scum, I can see Scott scum. Last sentence of my post says "only reason to put him on that List", thought that makes my stance clear.
Well who are you your two most liekly scums ? Cause it seemed like it was Lunatic + Celestial
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On August 05 2016 04:20 Skynx wrote:
Rels can be confirmed for now I guess, I would still go back and read his interactions with Grack pre night flip tho.
Thanks for confirming yourself town
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