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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 28 2016 17:34 GMT
#59
On July 29 2016 00:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
uggh whatever, let's do it.

/in

I'll remain sane this game because it's a newbie game. Next vet game and every vet game I'm in though I'll make it a point to be super crazy.

Impossible
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-28 20:08:49
July 28 2016 20:08 GMT
#67
/in:open
Taking Grack's spot if he cannot play p:
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 29 2016 11:40 GMT
#80
On July 29 2016 11:04 -Celestial- wrote:
My god its only just hit me just how long its been since I played. And that's only because I noticed Rels in this game. I remember co-hosting in his first game last year, and I only played one game after that co-host. X-D

I really ought to get around here more often. Keep getting distracted by things.

Now that I've experienced what a commitment it is to host a game, I know that I owe you & the other hosts an enormous thank you for that game. It was so good hosting-wise, best flavor & hosting for sure. I have no idea where cakepie went but it's a shame he doesn't host anymore, one year later and my first game still contains the best flavor, votecounts & post game advices I've ever seen.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 29 2016 18:30 GMT
#90
I also want a coach
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 29 2016 18:40 GMT
#94
Je confirme ma participation
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 01 2016 20:03 GMT
#413
yo
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 01 2016 20:07 GMT
#417
On August 02 2016 05:04 Grackaroni wrote:
Rels my reads suck. Please help lol.

lol let me catch up and we'll see what we can do about that
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 01 2016 20:07 GMT
#418
On August 02 2016 05:05 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 05:03 Rels wrote:
yo


It's alive!

What's going on? Show us some magic!

sure
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 01 2016 20:26 GMT
#421
On August 01 2016 07:30 scott31337 wrote:
KelsierSC Mderg Stutters and BTDT

This list that scott posted right as he replaced is exactly my list at this point
Welcome my town bro
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 01 2016 20:26 GMT
#423
Well actually that's the list of the poeple that voted RB
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 01 2016 20:42 GMT
#429
On August 02 2016 05:41 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 05:37 Stutters695 wrote:
On August 02 2016 05:26 Skynx wrote:
Anyway I think this is my preferred priority algorythm for now:

Rels>Stutters>btdt>Grack>silent

So imo i liked gracks posts more than other two. Can't really quote out specific ones but his interactions felt more like natural towny to me.
Rels is plynch, same with silent.

We can also throw a curveball and go Luna if we don't want to deal with similar behavior cuz he didnt changed much but pretty sure he's town.


So one policy lynch (who just came back to the game) is a better lynch than any of your scum reads who are all better than the other policy lynch?

Technically yes. Rels came back sure and i actually realised something from his second post. Plynches are sometimes the way to go but this might now be one.
One plynch made 0 posts prior to that opinion, other made couple stating his opinion, thats about it.

??
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 01 2016 20:46 GMT
#431
On August 02 2016 05:44 Skynx wrote:
Well since i gotta go bed tone based updates:

Rels, Scott, stutters are town. Also not feeling like plynch as per stutters point so silent gets a pass. Grack is very very slightly above btdt for me.

Mderg or btdt.

Explain the stutters read
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 01 2016 20:55 GMT
#437
On August 02 2016 05:51 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 05:46 Rels wrote:
On August 02 2016 05:44 Skynx wrote:
Well since i gotta go bed tone based updates:

Rels, Scott, stutters are town. Also not feeling like plynch as per stutters point so silent gets a pass. Grack is very very slightly above btdt for me.

Mderg or btdt.

Explain the stutters read

Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 05:37 Stutters695 wrote:
On August 02 2016 05:26 Skynx wrote:
Anyway I think this is my preferred priority algorythm for now:

Rels>Stutters>btdt>Grack>silent

So imo i liked gracks posts more than other two. Can't really quote out specific ones but his interactions felt more like natural towny to me.
Rels is plynch, same with silent.

We can also throw a curveball and go Luna if we don't want to deal with similar behavior cuz he didnt changed much but pretty sure he's town.


So one policy lynch (who just came back to the game) is a better lynch than any of your scum reads who are all better than the other policy lynch?

When someone puts you in a trio as possible scum, this is just not the reaction you give. I feel like its very genuine and game solving kimd of mindset. If he's the scum in the trio then i dont think he'd post something like this, he'd just prolly shut up.

meh meh meh. Don't agree with you. He attacked your post with a weak question, the very same post in which you call him a potential lynch.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 01 2016 21:02 GMT
#439
mderg you're scum
##Vote mderg
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 01 2016 21:03 GMT
#440
Scum team is very likely to be in this pool:

mderg
Celestial / KSC / Stutters
BTDT
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 01 2016 21:15 GMT
#443
On August 02 2016 06:03 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 06:02 Rels wrote:
mderg you're scum
##Vote mderg

what makes you think so?

Several things.
First, your entire game is centered around RB, then scott. It's just so easy to talk about him right ? But this post is fucking bullshit:
On August 01 2016 02:53 mderg wrote:
I guess this replacement prevents the plynch discussion that I hoped would give us some information...

I don't believe this for one second. Your voting post is pretty well explained for a "trap":
On August 01 2016 00:04 mderg wrote:
Based on the last page I'd say we policy lynch Race Bannon. It will just get more and more obnoxious, if he continues to post like this. So I simply want to get this out of the way.

##vote Race Bannon

And there WERE some reactions to RB spamming + replacement, and you just didn't seem interested in looking for them.

Second, this post is also bullshit:
On August 02 2016 04:32 mderg wrote:
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On August 02 2016 04:20 -Celestial- wrote:
Also at present:
- silent has done sod all since confirming his feelings on Kelsier
- Rels is going to get himself replaced or modkilled because of total inactivity

Can we expect a replacement or a modkill for Rels if he doesn't turn up at all for the entire day?

Now that you mention it, silent is someone I could get behind lynching today. Didn't like his opening and he didn't do anything since then.

"Now thazt you mention it" ? The only thing you've extensively talk about apart from RB / scott was how silent's posts were bad. Your scott read is also based party on that:
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 31 2016 21:26 mderg wrote:
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On July 31 2016 21:10 silentwarrior wrote:
Well, early posting helps makes other post. We are posting because of him now, aren't we? It helps discussion going, but I agree that now that early game is over he should start getting serious. Hopefully he will start writing constructive stuff from here on.

Kelsier on the other hand said outright that he could post but wouldn't because nothing "reasonable had been posted". But he dosen't post anything at all and says he will even wait. To me that seems a lot more suspicous than posting nonsense. Remember, we are here to lynch mafia not people we don't like. That makes my vote much better than Kelsier. Not to mention it puts pressure on him to not just "see us in a few days" but actually post during this time.

Also, I never said that I wouldn't vote for Race given reason(even said I had no problem with Kelsier voting for him). I didn't vote for Kelsier because he didn't post, I voted for him because he could post but said he wouldn't and instead wait to see what others posted. You have to agree that's kind of suspicous, right?

I don't like your reasoning. What Kelsier did was so obvously suspicious that it doesn't really say much. It points much more towards lazy/annoyed than any alignment.

On August 01 2016 17:25 mderg wrote:
Completely agree with the stuff about silentwarrior calling out Kelsier. Every proper townie should dislike what Kelsier did. But that doesn't make Kelsier scum, making such a big deal out of it doesn't feel right when you think about it a bit.

[...]

Thoughts on scott: a bit superficial and I absolutely disagree with his thoughts on silent. Don't like him too much for now.

On August 01 2016 22:05 mderg wrote:
scott made a list of people who had their vote on Race Bannon and took picked one of those to push. It doesn't take a town hero to call BTDT out on that. Then he gives town points to J Roc for having called out the same post by BTDT. He also liked silentwarrior's post regarding Kelsier which I didn't like for reasons already stated.
His thoughts so far seem superficial and lacking any sort of depth. And that's something I see as scummy, more so than one obviously bad post.

On August 02 2016 01:51 mderg wrote:
btdt's post basically had a big sign with "That's bad for town" attached to it. Scott scumread him for that,nothing wrong with that, though a bit superficial.
Then he also townread J Roc for voicing the same concerns about the post with the big sign. Calling out such a post is really not a reason for townreading somebody.
He also liked silentwarrior's post about Kelsier. Kelsier carrying a huge sign saying "anti town".



Third, you repeated your scott reasonning several times like a machine, and it's full of words like "superficial" that don't mean anything but looks cool. Standard scum reads. All your reads are like that.

Fourth, I just don't like your tone. Scummy posts ahead:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 01 2016 00:04 mderg wrote:
Based on the last page I'd say we policy lynch Race Bannon. It will just get more and more obnoxious, if he continues to post like this. So I simply want to get this out of the way.

##vote Race Bannon

On August 01 2016 02:56 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 01:52 Skynx wrote:
On August 01 2016 01:34 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok, I'll be back on tonight. I'd like to see some opinions on this post:
On July 31 2016 19:39 silentwarrior wrote:
Hi guys, this is my second game on TL. I play mostly irl mafia, but wanted to try this again, first game ended too quick. Ok, so about Race Bannon. He posted a lot in the beginning when not many else did, which is good as it helps town discussion. Granted, most of it was nonsense but he is atleast posting. Don't think he should continue with it later though.

But what I wanted to focus on was KelsierSC

On July 31 2016 17:12 KelsierSC wrote:
This game is fucking stupid. I'll see you all this evening when hopefully something reasonable has been posted.


So, his first post he says that this is stupid and is gonna not post anything until the evening when something "reasonable" has been posted. But why not post yourself? Maybe say something reasonable yourself. Going away for hours without posting does not help us.

On July 31 2016 19:07 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm not putting up with this shit for the whole game

##vote Race Bannon

See you all in a few days


Then this, where he votes for Race Bannon (which is not what I have a problem with), but then states "See you all in a few days". Again, stating his intention to not post.
I think not wanting to post and waiting for others seems like something scum would do.
##vote Kelsier SC


I don't like this actually. Feels like he's just trying to find reason to sr someone.
I mean you don't force some1 into contribute and half the thread was afk anyways. You can ask his opinions befroe he goes away try to spark some activity but voting because he doesnt contribute cuz cba is weak.

Yeah, it's a lazy scumread

On August 01 2016 06:00 mderg wrote:
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On August 01 2016 05:38 Lunaticman wrote:
On August 01 2016 05:09 KelsierSC wrote:
game starting again cool. Hi i'm town


So are you having regrets about something? Your first posts really didn't put you in a good position becauset they were a super lame buss attempt on a "policy lynch" (however I don't think many would disagree on it), I would consider this was more of a towny mistake than anything but if I was town I wouldn't go back on what I said like that without an explination something like:

"hey I messed that one up and thought he was super annoying". No intead you were like "Hi I'm town".

It's like your just trying to hide what you previously stated. I would definatly not have a problem lynching you for your posting behaviour tbh.


Why are you talking about a bus attempt? Do you know Race Bannon's alignment?

On August 01 2016 06:45 mderg wrote:
Do something to change that


These are all posts that look like you're trying to hard to be useful. But aren't useful.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 01 2016 21:21 GMT
#445
I read and read and read mderg's filter and find him each time scummier.
Him calling out scott for being superficial is a joke. His scott read is the most shallow and non-evolving read ever.
On August 01 2016 17:25 mderg wrote:
Thoughts on scott: a bit superficial and I absolutely disagree with his thoughts on silent. Don't like him too much for now.

On August 01 2016 22:05 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 21:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 01 2016 17:40 mderg wrote:
On August 01 2016 12:57 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 01 2016 11:36 -Celestial- wrote:
Grackaroni - Has a lengthier filter than most but there's honestly not a lot in it. The stuff pre-Race ban is a bunch of nothing. I don't like all this "Race is probably town" based off the utter garbage Race was serving up. Also I feel like the whole "Mafia plays subdued" thing is honestly pretty leading. I don't think this is necessarily a safe assumption at all, but he seems quite happy to push town down that way of thinking.

I like that he brings up silent's post but I don't like that he doesn't want to post his own thoughts before getting other people's. I also don't like that he disagrees with it but just dismisses it as 'reasoning a new town player would make' whilst simultaneously setting up to call anyone who calls silent scum, scum themselves. Then calling up people who were calling on silent, despite the fact that he's admitted that he disagrees with silent himself...he just doesn't find him particularly scummy for it.

This is a kind of weird mentality...you agree that you don't like the thoughts in silent's post...but they're scummy for feeling that it might make silent scummy?

I got split feelings on the three he calls most towny. So I guess I can't do much with this.

However I have huge issues with this bit:

Right now I'm kind of inclined to lynch Mderg just because I think the three people he has pushed so far (Silentwarrior, Lunatic, scott) have been the townier people in the thread, and he has pushed suspicion on two of them and tried to policy lynch the third.


No. Mderg wanted to policy lynch Race, because he was screwing up the thread. Mderg hasn't commented AT ALL on scott himself because he's not been in thread since then. This is pretty deceptive stuff from Grack imo. I don't like it when people try to slip things like that under the radar. Scum lean.
The defence on Lunatic is NAI because its exactly what I thought. Asking Kelsier to play is fine and complaining about him complaining is also fine but nothing special. Asks for a lynch target from Kelsier. NAI, anyone would want more info from Kelsier at this stage no matter their alignment or Kelsier's.

I think that mafia tends to play more subdued is a pretty standard idea that most players would accept. I'm not saying Race Bannon could never be mafia but lynching the guy who goes out of his way to spam the thread and pisses everybody off in the process is definitely not a good place to start if you want to hit mafia.

Silent made the first serious accusatory post of the game and put himself in the spotlight. I liked the post just because I think that Kelsier's non-contribution would look scummy to a newcomer, but the start of the game is the easiest time to "contribute". All I've gathered so far is that Kelsier seems annoyed from the state of the game and can't be assed to start playing. I don't really read Kelsier either way. Also I can disagree with a post's conclusions and still townread somebody for their post. Case in point, I don't really agree with your reads or any of the reasoning attached to them, but I'm still very thankful for something to comment on and will give a town read for it. It's magic!

As for my choice not to post my thoughts before getting other people's. Are you saying that I'm afraid of putting forth my own thoughts before seeing other people's or something else? I don't think that will be too much of an issue. Actually I think the reason I've come up here in the first place is that I've actually put out some of the more distinctive things.

My point here for Mderg is that he's pushed three slots that I feel are town slots. What kind of deception do you think I'm trying to slip under the radar here? Anyone can read his filter in 30 seconds and see whether he has posted about Race bannon or Scott.

I didn't push lunatic, I was just hoping my post would start some discussion while I'm away.

That makes it 2 "town slots" I've pushed. I really can't see what you like about either of them. I actually dislike scott's posts more than I did Race Bannon's (alignment wise).

explAin dood

Race Bannon simply posted gibberish which is obnoxious and annoying but not really alignment indicative.

scott made a list of people who had their vote on Race Bannon and took picked one of those to push. It doesn't take a town hero to call BTDT out on that. Then he gives town points to J Roc for having called out the same post by BTDT. He also liked silentwarrior's post regarding Kelsier which I didn't like for reasons already stated.
His thoughts so far seem superficial and lacking any sort of depth. And that's something I see as scummy, more so than one obviously bad post.

On August 02 2016 01:51 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 00:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 01 2016 22:56 Skynx wrote:
Also Moosy how is KSC town is that a tone read?

Yes.

On August 01 2016 22:54 mderg wrote:
On August 01 2016 22:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 01 2016 22:05 mderg wrote:
On August 01 2016 21:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 01 2016 17:40 mderg wrote:
On August 01 2016 12:57 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 01 2016 11:36 -Celestial- wrote:
Grackaroni - Has a lengthier filter than most but there's honestly not a lot in it. The stuff pre-Race ban is a bunch of nothing. I don't like all this "Race is probably town" based off the utter garbage Race was serving up. Also I feel like the whole "Mafia plays subdued" thing is honestly pretty leading. I don't think this is necessarily a safe assumption at all, but he seems quite happy to push town down that way of thinking.

I like that he brings up silent's post but I don't like that he doesn't want to post his own thoughts before getting other people's. I also don't like that he disagrees with it but just dismisses it as 'reasoning a new town player would make' whilst simultaneously setting up to call anyone who calls silent scum, scum themselves. Then calling up people who were calling on silent, despite the fact that he's admitted that he disagrees with silent himself...he just doesn't find him particularly scummy for it.

This is a kind of weird mentality...you agree that you don't like the thoughts in silent's post...but they're scummy for feeling that it might make silent scummy?

I got split feelings on the three he calls most towny. So I guess I can't do much with this.

However I have huge issues with this bit:

Right now I'm kind of inclined to lynch Mderg just because I think the three people he has pushed so far (Silentwarrior, Lunatic, scott) have been the townier people in the thread, and he has pushed suspicion on two of them and tried to policy lynch the third.


No. Mderg wanted to policy lynch Race, because he was screwing up the thread. Mderg hasn't commented AT ALL on scott himself because he's not been in thread since then. This is pretty deceptive stuff from Grack imo. I don't like it when people try to slip things like that under the radar. Scum lean.
The defence on Lunatic is NAI because its exactly what I thought. Asking Kelsier to play is fine and complaining about him complaining is also fine but nothing special. Asks for a lynch target from Kelsier. NAI, anyone would want more info from Kelsier at this stage no matter their alignment or Kelsier's.

I think that mafia tends to play more subdued is a pretty standard idea that most players would accept. I'm not saying Race Bannon could never be mafia but lynching the guy who goes out of his way to spam the thread and pisses everybody off in the process is definitely not a good place to start if you want to hit mafia.

Silent made the first serious accusatory post of the game and put himself in the spotlight. I liked the post just because I think that Kelsier's non-contribution would look scummy to a newcomer, but the start of the game is the easiest time to "contribute". All I've gathered so far is that Kelsier seems annoyed from the state of the game and can't be assed to start playing. I don't really read Kelsier either way. Also I can disagree with a post's conclusions and still townread somebody for their post. Case in point, I don't really agree with your reads or any of the reasoning attached to them, but I'm still very thankful for something to comment on and will give a town read for it. It's magic!

As for my choice not to post my thoughts before getting other people's. Are you saying that I'm afraid of putting forth my own thoughts before seeing other people's or something else? I don't think that will be too much of an issue. Actually I think the reason I've come up here in the first place is that I've actually put out some of the more distinctive things.

My point here for Mderg is that he's pushed three slots that I feel are town slots. What kind of deception do you think I'm trying to slip under the radar here? Anyone can read his filter in 30 seconds and see whether he has posted about Race bannon or Scott.

I didn't push lunatic, I was just hoping my post would start some discussion while I'm away.

That makes it 2 "town slots" I've pushed. I really can't see what you like about either of them. I actually dislike scott's posts more than I did Race Bannon's (alignment wise).

explAin dood

Race Bannon simply posted gibberish which is obnoxious and annoying but not really alignment indicative.

scott made a list of people who had their vote on Race Bannon and took picked one of those to push. It doesn't take a town hero to call BTDT out on that. Then he gives town points to J Roc for having called out the same post by BTDT. He also liked silentwarrior's post regarding Kelsier which I didn't like for reasons already stated.
His thoughts so far seem superficial and lacking any sort of depth. And that's something I see as scummy, more so than one obviously bad post.

So do you think btdt's post was shit or good?

it was bad

So you're scumreading scott because he's scumreading btdt for making a shit post?

The scumread itself is not my issue with scott. I'll try to explain it again.

btdt's post basically had a big sign with "That's bad for town" attached to it. Scott scumread him for that,nothing wrong with that, though a bit superficial.
Then he also townread J Roc for voicing the same concerns about the post with the big sign. Calling out such a post is really not a reason for townreading somebody.
He also liked silentwarrior's post about Kelsier. Kelsier carrying a huge sign saying "anti town".

That's just way too superficial for me. There's no effort to really figure people out in there, just focusing on single posts with imo very little value. It's like he's following a simple line of seeing a obviouslybad post -> seeing people calling those posts out -> townreading those people. I'd expect a townie to put a bit more thought into it than that.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 01 2016 21:23 GMT
#446
The silent read is the same. I already quoted the posts above
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 01 2016 21:25 GMT
#449
Yep this is the lynch.
All aboard the mderg express. You have to be seated before the departure. Scummates traveling with mderg are not allowed in
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 01 2016 21:31 GMT
#452
On August 02 2016 06:24 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 06:15 Rels wrote:
On August 02 2016 06:03 mderg wrote:
On August 02 2016 06:02 Rels wrote:
mderg you're scum
##Vote mderg

what makes you think so?

Several things.
First, your entire game is centered around RB, then scott. It's just so easy to talk about him right ? But this post is fucking bullshit:
On August 01 2016 02:53 mderg wrote:
I guess this replacement prevents the plynch discussion that I hoped would give us some information...

I don't believe this for one second. Your voting post is pretty well explained for a "trap":
On August 01 2016 00:04 mderg wrote:
Based on the last page I'd say we policy lynch Race Bannon. It will just get more and more obnoxious, if he continues to post like this. So I simply want to get this out of the way.

##vote Race Bannon

And there WERE some reactions to RB spamming + replacement, and you just didn't seem interested in looking for them.

Second, this post is also bullshit:
On August 02 2016 04:32 mderg wrote:
On August 02 2016 04:20 -Celestial- wrote:
Also at present:
- silent has done sod all since confirming his feelings on Kelsier
- Rels is going to get himself replaced or modkilled because of total inactivity

Can we expect a replacement or a modkill for Rels if he doesn't turn up at all for the entire day?

Now that you mention it, silent is someone I could get behind lynching today. Didn't like his opening and he didn't do anything since then.

"Now thazt you mention it" ? The only thing you've extensively talk about apart from RB / scott was how silent's posts were bad. Your scott read is also based party on that:
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 31 2016 21:26 mderg wrote:
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On July 31 2016 21:10 silentwarrior wrote:
Well, early posting helps makes other post. We are posting because of him now, aren't we? It helps discussion going, but I agree that now that early game is over he should start getting serious. Hopefully he will start writing constructive stuff from here on.

Kelsier on the other hand said outright that he could post but wouldn't because nothing "reasonable had been posted". But he dosen't post anything at all and says he will even wait. To me that seems a lot more suspicous than posting nonsense. Remember, we are here to lynch mafia not people we don't like. That makes my vote much better than Kelsier. Not to mention it puts pressure on him to not just "see us in a few days" but actually post during this time.

Also, I never said that I wouldn't vote for Race given reason(even said I had no problem with Kelsier voting for him). I didn't vote for Kelsier because he didn't post, I voted for him because he could post but said he wouldn't and instead wait to see what others posted. You have to agree that's kind of suspicous, right?

I don't like your reasoning. What Kelsier did was so obvously suspicious that it doesn't really say much. It points much more towards lazy/annoyed than any alignment.

On August 01 2016 17:25 mderg wrote:
Completely agree with the stuff about silentwarrior calling out Kelsier. Every proper townie should dislike what Kelsier did. But that doesn't make Kelsier scum, making such a big deal out of it doesn't feel right when you think about it a bit.

[...]

Thoughts on scott: a bit superficial and I absolutely disagree with his thoughts on silent. Don't like him too much for now.

On August 01 2016 22:05 mderg wrote:
scott made a list of people who had their vote on Race Bannon and took picked one of those to push. It doesn't take a town hero to call BTDT out on that. Then he gives town points to J Roc for having called out the same post by BTDT. He also liked silentwarrior's post regarding Kelsier which I didn't like for reasons already stated.
His thoughts so far seem superficial and lacking any sort of depth. And that's something I see as scummy, more so than one obviously bad post.

On August 02 2016 01:51 mderg wrote:
btdt's post basically had a big sign with "That's bad for town" attached to it. Scott scumread him for that,nothing wrong with that, though a bit superficial.
Then he also townread J Roc for voicing the same concerns about the post with the big sign. Calling out such a post is really not a reason for townreading somebody.
He also liked silentwarrior's post about Kelsier. Kelsier carrying a huge sign saying "anti town".



Third, you repeated your scott reasonning several times like a machine, and it's full of words like "superficial" that don't mean anything but looks cool. Standard scum reads. All your reads are like that.

Fourth, I just don't like your tone. Scummy posts ahead:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 01 2016 00:04 mderg wrote:
Based on the last page I'd say we policy lynch Race Bannon. It will just get more and more obnoxious, if he continues to post like this. So I simply want to get this out of the way.

##vote Race Bannon

On August 01 2016 02:56 mderg wrote:
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On August 01 2016 01:52 Skynx wrote:
On August 01 2016 01:34 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok, I'll be back on tonight. I'd like to see some opinions on this post:
On July 31 2016 19:39 silentwarrior wrote:
Hi guys, this is my second game on TL. I play mostly irl mafia, but wanted to try this again, first game ended too quick. Ok, so about Race Bannon. He posted a lot in the beginning when not many else did, which is good as it helps town discussion. Granted, most of it was nonsense but he is atleast posting. Don't think he should continue with it later though.

But what I wanted to focus on was KelsierSC

On July 31 2016 17:12 KelsierSC wrote:
This game is fucking stupid. I'll see you all this evening when hopefully something reasonable has been posted.


So, his first post he says that this is stupid and is gonna not post anything until the evening when something "reasonable" has been posted. But why not post yourself? Maybe say something reasonable yourself. Going away for hours without posting does not help us.

On July 31 2016 19:07 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm not putting up with this shit for the whole game

##vote Race Bannon

See you all in a few days


Then this, where he votes for Race Bannon (which is not what I have a problem with), but then states "See you all in a few days". Again, stating his intention to not post.
I think not wanting to post and waiting for others seems like something scum would do.
##vote Kelsier SC


I don't like this actually. Feels like he's just trying to find reason to sr someone.
I mean you don't force some1 into contribute and half the thread was afk anyways. You can ask his opinions befroe he goes away try to spark some activity but voting because he doesnt contribute cuz cba is weak.

Yeah, it's a lazy scumread

On August 01 2016 06:00 mderg wrote:
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On August 01 2016 05:38 Lunaticman wrote:
On August 01 2016 05:09 KelsierSC wrote:
game starting again cool. Hi i'm town


So are you having regrets about something? Your first posts really didn't put you in a good position becauset they were a super lame buss attempt on a "policy lynch" (however I don't think many would disagree on it), I would consider this was more of a towny mistake than anything but if I was town I wouldn't go back on what I said like that without an explination something like:

"hey I messed that one up and thought he was super annoying". No intead you were like "Hi I'm town".

It's like your just trying to hide what you previously stated. I would definatly not have a problem lynching you for your posting behaviour tbh.


Why are you talking about a bus attempt? Do you know Race Bannon's alignment?

On August 01 2016 06:45 mderg wrote:
Do something to change that


These are all posts that look like you're trying to hard to be useful. But aren't useful.

I never said that I started some policy lynch discussion so we could get some information out of it. I was just a bit disappointed that pretty much the only ting that actually got people to do stuff was shut off because of the replacement. No ulterior motive, just some disappointment.

The "Now that you mention it" was more of a "Oh, I've forgot he is actually a possible lynch target".

Why did I call scott's reasoning superficial? Because it was superficial.

1. This does not make any sense. If you were swithout plan then you should have been happy with RB being replaced, not disappointed. Policy lynches give almost 0 info.
I realize that if you're town I'm being super tunneled. BUT I can only see this as a proof that you KNEW RB was a townie.

2. I don't believe it. You repeated several times that yhou didn't like silent's posts.

3. Scummy read is scummy
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