[M][N] Presidential Election Mini Mafia

On June 24 2016 21:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Nice!


Hype!

On June 25 2016 06:13 Superbia wrote:
TW why you lurking son.

On June 25 2016 06:14 QuickTwist wrote:
Sub is different so far from what I remember of him early last game. He's more serious and not as prominently trolly.

On June 25 2016 07:45 Superbia wrote:
Oh and also this president thing is kinda cute and all but I'm going to take the free townie points and say we should drop it and play a normal game for now. We can spend the second part of the day deciding how we want to orchestrate the president thing. I have a few thoughts surrounding it but need to flesh them out.

On June 25 2016 07:53 emperorchampion wrote:


Last game I was waaaay more stressed out D1

On June 25 2016 08:12 emperorchampion wrote:


Do you find being an active player is a benefit? Last game it got you lynched first.

On June 25 2016 08:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
so can someone explain this mayor mechanic

On June 25 2016 08:44 GlowingBear wrote:


Bolded: that's every Mafia member's objective

On June 25 2016 08:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:




You do not strike me as a joking player. You weren't kidding about these comments, so clearly you want to get the game going. Your latest comment suggests an actual annoyance regarding people messing around, and then immediately after you make a pun to join in on the very thing you just bitched about, which strongly implies you were just attempting to blend in/look townie by pretending you want to move the game into the 'serious' phase without actually doing so.

I believe there's a good chance you're mafia.

On June 25 2016 09:00 Damdred wrote:
Eh mafia would probably rather fit into trying to become mayor and spam about that rather than reads after initial plan post.

Plus if I want people I read as the members means I'm giving a ton of info as scum which would be bad.

All in all while it's Mafias general goal, it's a bad one in the context of what in saying

On June 25 2016 09:22 Damdred wrote:
I think art v qt is t v t.

Its good though keep it up.

On June 25 2016 09:25 GlowingBear wrote:


Actually, doesn't it look like they are trying to distance from each other?

On June 25 2016 09:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I actually hate this reason normally (feel like scum tend to be more appeasing) but on me it's accurate.

No town points for you though. Don't think you know me enough for that!

On June 25 2016 09:36 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Although she seriously needs to stop trying to transition into Mutalisks in ZvP. It's garbage in LotV unless the opponent throws their army like Welmu did. It was okay in HotS but not okay in LotV.

On June 25 2016 07:43 QuickTwist wrote:

What do you mean? That is not my plan this game at all.

On June 25 2016 08:11 QuickTwist wrote:


I only had two posts in the first two pages of the game, here they are:




EBWOP

On June 25 2016 08:30 QuickTwist wrote:


Naw, I'm not trying hard.. I usually don't try hard in mafia. I don't think I filtered more than 1 person last game.

On June 25 2016 10:18 Tumblewood wrote:
Art, you really have to look past a minor inconsistency to see how townie QT's overall posting trend is. His play this game is characteristic of LS's town meta, and the big tell is that he responds to comments and questions that don't need a response. Consider:



I don't know how to explain exactly why this makes him town but these posts (and the misinterpretations and helpful attitude present) are just never going to come from mafia.

On June 25 2016 13:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
chezinu is probably town

On June 25 2016 16:02 QuickTwist wrote:


Why those two specifically? Why not others? Why not me?



Don't get the misunderstanding here.



Follows that up with a joke, which by Arts logic would mean that is Sus.



Looks like filler trying to look like they are doing stuff.



NOT talking about the setup could be more damaging than talking about it because we really don't know what to expect from this setup or what mechanics it could have. Looks like filler to me.



Gives a meta read based on a single game... TBH I looking into this and didn't see a huge difference in play from one game to the other.



Pure IIoA.



There is no tell. You have played one game with me.



I don't think this is true at all.



K, so Art is Scum or Town... And?



Why would tunneling be a Town thing to do?

Why make a thing out of SC when we are playing mafia?

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I think I covered the rest.

On June 25 2016 22:27 Superbia wrote:


Moosy's entrance feels too much like "hey guys, I'm claiming MAFIA, like I did last game I was TOWN". Feels too fake. I would expect town moosy to actually switch it up instead of doing nearly the same thing as last game.

On June 25 2016 22:28 Superbia wrote:
Oh jealous claimed to be drunk/whatever but that's no real excuse not to post. Especially as town.

On June 26 2016 02:41 Skynx wrote:



Is that a love letter of some sort or do you have a point with all this? I'm not liking you for president.

I dunno why people want to make you president anyway, you sound like another Moosy just unreadible D1.

On June 26 2016 02:46 Skynx wrote:
lol ok what should we talk about my dear Tumble?

On June 26 2016 02:56 Skynx wrote:

Would help if people just say what they think of his alignment. You and Moosy did point out "take it ez art, QT is town" but what do you actually think of art?

Or if you don't feel like it we talk about damdred, what do you think of this?

On June 26 2016 03:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Goddamnit even Emperor doesn't have the common courtesy of looking similar to his last scumgame. Here I was like "yay he's got almost no content maybe he's scum" and then in the scumgame he kinda gets straight to business.

If scum could start being more scummy I'd be much obliged.

On June 26 2016 03:58 Damdred wrote:
Thing is idk why tumble has Tt as probably town and me as nukl. It doesn't make a ton of sense.m to me here.

Sk is interesting though Super aggro but he's ignoring obvious answers to questions that are just a few posts later so I am feeling wishy washy so far

On June 25 2016 22:36 Tictock wrote:


You know I kinda felt the same... It was overblown especially with his interaction with Damdred.

I didn't get the same happy go lucky trolling feeling from him either, more like


I'm surprised you want to read Jealous based off an "I'm AFK" post.

On June 26 2016 04:04 Damdred wrote:
Well we can't have everyone town read there has to be a scum even outside moosey for you tumble.

And Tt idk he just wasn't very smart in his postings took a post that was a compliment to him not being lynch bait now tried to use it to scum read me, and has been boring sense trying to make mud stick.

On June 26 2016 08:44 Jean Valjean wrote:


"all the tells" implies that there are some objective things I've done that you can name of the top off your head that you consider to generally be scummy.

Please elaborate on at least three such tells.

On June 26 2016 08:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I dunno. My read from the list post hasn't really changed significantly.

On June 26 2016 10:31 GlowingBear wrote:
The fact that you're trying to discredit quicktwist while still calling him town makes me very suspicious of you.

On June 26 2016 12:07 GlowingBear wrote:


Because silently wanting to be elected as mayor is something I would expect from mafia. If I am mafia and I'm seeing town organising themselves - specially when a town player is being elected as president -, I would start to discredit people in order to push my agenda.

It's not like calling Koshi bad. I can call Koshi bad and not vote with him, but if Koshi was the towniest person in the game I would vote him 100% of the times simply because having a bad town mayor is better than risking having a good mayor that could be mafia

On June 26 2016 12:46 Damdred wrote:
Seriously why don't we make me mayor?

I'm still a good player, I'm obviously going to try this game and with double votes mafia has to kill me before lylo anyway.

It's the best of both worlds, a good dialed in scum hunting damdred with double votes

On June 26 2016 12:54 GlowingBear wrote:


I'd rather have 100% certainty than risking a 77% certainty.

Why do you have 90% on Superbia?

On June 25 2016 07:45 Superbia wrote:
Oh and also this president thing is kinda cute and all but I'm going to take the free townie points and say we should drop it and play a normal game for now. We can spend the second part of the day deciding how we want to orchestrate the president thing. I have a few thoughts surrounding it but need to flesh them out.

On June 25 2016 21:22 Superbia wrote:
That list is probably actually really really good

On June 25 2016 22:27 Superbia wrote:


Moosy's entrance feels too much like "hey guys, I'm claiming MAFIA, like I did last game I was TOWN". Feels too fake. I would expect town moosy to actually switch it up instead of doing nearly the same thing as last game.

On June 26 2016 12:22 emperorchampion wrote:


That's quite the order! I don't think I have time to make it exact so this synopsis will have to suffice:

Super: I see a very similar style of game play to what I saw last game when he was town. I think that his posts have been pretty on point.

Tumble: I think that he has been open with his thoughts, and I like the direction that he has been giving to the game so far. Many of his thoughts I find are echoing mine.

QT: I find that his posts have been very reminiscent of the last game. I think that he has shown consideration of the game so far.

On June 26 2016 18:36 Tictock wrote:


Yea I saw him drop his scumread, but putting QT in his top 4 town now? That's a pretty big swing in thinking.

Also think his read on me is mostly OMGUS and he's throwing out weak meta to try and cover it.

On June 26 2016 18:51 Tictock wrote:


Well I'm gunna take your word about your mafia play with a grain of salt, I think I've only played a game or two with you as town.

Eh I call it as I see it, you dropped your read on QT then quoted a post of mine saying you didn't like it. Then you brought up some weak meta about my town game being "interesting" and bam I'm your top scum read (though you seemed more interested questioning Jean).

Looks like you're early read got squashed by thread sentiment so you went looking for new people to push.

On June 26 2016 19:21 Tictock wrote:


Yea see this just shows you have no real understanding of my meta...

And you're wrong, I'm pretty darned interesting.

I know... my mom told me.

On June 27 2016 02:12 Damdred wrote:
Where did I give ec a pass I've been,trying to decide if he's scum or been for awhile I didn't,mind his early posts. And these later ones aren't horrid he's at least thinking.

On June 27 2016 10:18 Tictock wrote:


I thought it was Jealous and Me and you wanted to ignore or sorta TR Moosy.

I think I'm lynching you no matter what tomorrow Damdred. You have said jack shit to push a scum read, didn't help town consolidate onto a good mayor and went from, "I dont want to be mayor", to "I want to be Mayor", to "I'm good a town reads I should be pardoner".

You generally seemed content to push afk people and myself while pushing discussion away from Moosy multiple times.

Mostly it's just that nothing you've said feels like you are really thinking about things beyond a surface level.

On June 27 2016 11:05 Damdred wrote:
Actually I'm not going to get hostile, while I agree phone posting is probably causing my thoughts to get more jumbled. I think my progressions on most of my reads and reasonings posted in thread are decent.

My scum reads presented have had factual reasons behind them and have shown progression ie jealous for example went, light scum-hard scum read-conversation-light scum-new thought-town.

While you are a bit difficult to understand tt with your bouts of afk and while you paint me scummy for diverting attention from moose you yourself pushed light scum on him and never pushed it at all.

So you are coming across pretty hypocritical, also you say I'm only pushing afk or you. I don't know why that's a big surprise since I am town reading most of the game, and the main reason I consolidated like I did was because ec was a town read and didn't want him to die and had no read on moose.

I regret that I had to break my policy but Jean did the right thing.

On June 29 2016 01:02 Damdred wrote:
I guess we will come down to a jealous vs damdred Lynch today.

Meh brb

On May 30 2016 09:19 Tumblewood wrote:
mmmm I hate this situation because everyone's still spamming the thread and I still have to read stuff but game is ezpz solved already
and then d5 comes around and we haven't lynched scum in 2 days and it's 3v2 lylo and then I die because I was inactive when everyone else was spamming on d3
the stuff of nightmares

On June 29 2016 05:55 Jealous wrote:

Explain?

On June 29 2016 06:00 Jealous wrote:

Explain? I'd like to see a case built against me that doesn't involve "feels" or an acronym like TMI with a lack of substance.

This isn't directly towards only you, Tumblewood, but are the veterans really that lazy around here? Almost no one besides Tictock is posting quotes and examining filters publicly. So far, many, people are just stating their reads with a definite lack of substance from within the thread.

On June 29 2016 06:21 Skynx wrote:
I'll be up for some discussion tomorrow irl but Art, as much as i have faith in yout honesty we should stick to facts. I'm sure Damdred is mafia as much as you believe he is town so we're getting nowhere here.

So here is a logical man's way out: if Damdred is going to get lynched, we should try to get as much as info out of it in case he rolls town.
I feel like the remaining mafia (in case its not D) is someone we are not even considering right now. I suggest everyone be active as much as they can tmox cuz scum WILL drop something.

Nn

I'm going to try to explain why. I want everyone to read this post and let it actually sink in. Think about it for half an hour or something to avoid kneejerk/tunnel replies.

On June 30 2016 04:53 Skynx wrote:

Did you keep track of 1-day mafia? rayn was the #1 townread of everyone who turned out to be gf. I don't think its fair to disregard some1 being maf cuz if intentional aggressive or 'bullying' kinda play style being too much.

On June 30 2016 05:00 GlowingBear wrote:


That's wifom? Why couldn't he interact with Damdred?

On June 30 2016 05:03 Jean Valjean wrote:

What are the chances Superbia makes the fakeclaim on tictock as scum?

On June 30 2016 05:05 Tictock wrote:


Actually it was Damdred that brought it up.

So I went from Damdred being my main scumread to teaming up with him to take down the Mayor.

I'm glad that you think I'm this good as scum though.

On June 30 2016 05:44 Skynx wrote:
Who's feeling like shennanie? No time to explain.

On June 30 2016 05:46 Damdred wrote:
Jean leaving like this bothers me again blah

On July 02 2016 10:12 GlowingBear wrote:
If you're mafia, concede now tumble, because aftee Damdy is dead we are going to lynch you no matter what

On July 02 2016 10:37 GlowingBear wrote:


I can only imagine. I would've concededd. Too much work.

I think you took a very high risk by not shooting me at night

On July 02 2016 10:39 GlowingBear wrote:


That was surely a risk

I think you decided your nightkills pretty well tbf

On July 02 2016 11:57 Damdred wrote:
Also tumble a decent argument there would be what would happen if damdred was framed or some sort of nonsense. It would of been a fun argument

On July 02 2016 14:10 Damdred wrote:
Idk I sort of felt like you were in a really tight spot was hard for scum