On June 08 2016 15:13 wherebugsgo wrote: I'm going to ignore tomahawk for now because he's doing some incredibly stupid things but stupid != scum and I would prefer the certainty of a better lynch over lynching a newbie.
##unvote ##vote Shapelog
tl;dr of what follows: I won't be around much in the next 12 hours, but we should kill Shapelog. Shapelog is meek, nonconfrontational, says a lot but doesn't contribute anything, and is suspected by pretty much everyone. Best lynch we'll get today. Details follow.
I would ordinarily be annoyed with the number of noncontributors we have but I'm actually pretty happy with the state of my reads of those people who actually have posted. The process of elimination should become easier with a bit more time. With that said, since I probably won't be here to drive the lynch, I propose that we kill Shapelog today.
1. Pretty much everyone in the game has said that they are suspicious of Shape, but only one person has actually voted with those suspicions. This is often an indication that someone is just skating by, a pretty big scum trait, whereas people who very obviously stick out are generally not scum. I'm fairly certain we'd get a good amount of blowback to a lynch effort on Shapelog as well, which would be great, because I seriously doubt that the resistance would make Shapelog look better.
2. Shapelog constantly pratters on and on without seeming to actually contribute anything. Given that Shapelog has like 1/5 of this game's posts, you would think that it would be easy to figure out Shapelog's reads and thoughts on the game with a single read-through of the game. Yet, nothing has stuck out, and I cannot actually recall anything Shapelog has said of substance without going filter diving and detail hunting.
3. I found myself spotting a lot of posts of Shapelog's that are of the "I'm going to do X" or "hi I'm here" kind of thing. The self-focus is very strong, and not something that many townies do. Examples:
On June 08 2016 06:44 Shapelog wrote: Oh yeah I skipped over this post.
On June 07 2016 10:11 sicklucker wrote: you ripped my yugioh cards and then backed down
Yeah, fuck your blue eyes,
Onto more serious matters, nothing is bothering me from you other than your fixation on me and nothing else (might of changed since this post.) You keep coming back and posting just to me, and not towards or on anything else in the thread. You have (remember at the time of this post) not made any apparent reads or thoughts on anyone else. Which kinda rubs me wrong, because that doesn't seem like something town should do. I mean yes, town can get tunneled, but you yourself said it was for bad reason's (me being cute) so you not really dead set in it.
After typing it out, it kinda bothers me more. But I think for now I going to actually catch up.
i literraly gave a reads list a few posts before this page dumbo
Yeah I found it after the Yugi card post the page afterward and posted about it.
On June 08 2016 09:00 Shapelog wrote: I actually check damdred's filter and I am quite shocked that there is nothing hardly there. I would have expected him to do much more than what he currently is doing.
He has 2 reads that are based on something (Ls, and Kel) and 2 off the fly reads (me and Palmar) and all of them are town. There is also nothing heavily suggesting that he is looking at people being scum than
There are several others i'm curious about but not there yet
which is understandable I guess at the time of the post, but when comes back, I would like to know who rubbed him atm.
Other than that, I am surprised he has done nothing other than make jokes. He hasn't been on today either to post as well.
Wouldn't mind lynching maybe if he doesn't get his shit together.
Will now dive another person
Note that I could go back and find a dozen other posts with the exact same theme, but the idea here is that Shapelog spends a gigantic amount of time saying things like "I'm going to do X" which are incredibly self-focused and seem to just be intended at convincing the thread that useful things are being done.
4. Both of Shapelog's suspicion posts have been of the form "would not mind lynching", as opposed to the more towny approach of "I think this dude is scum, let me vote him and convince all of the rest of you why we should kill him." Shapelog's approach at least from my perspective has been more in the camp of "let me see what sticks by meekly calling a bunch of different people suspicious and then go with the flow".
On June 08 2016 09:00 Shapelog wrote: I actually check damdred's filter and I am quite shocked that there is nothing hardly there. I would have expected him to do much more than what he currently is doing.
He has 2 reads that are based on something (Ls, and Kel) and 2 off the fly reads (me and Palmar) and all of them are town. There is also nothing heavily suggesting that he is looking at people being scum than
There are several others i'm curious about but not there yet
which is understandable I guess at the time of the post, but when comes back, I would like to know who rubbed him atm.
Other than that, I am surprised he has done nothing other than make jokes. He hasn't been on today either to post as well.
Wouldn't mind lynching maybe if he doesn't get his shit together.
On June 08 2016 09:35 Shapelog wrote: Reads -bugs I just do not understand why he is focused so fucking much on Palmar, and nothing else. Infact, the small talk to LS, asking about my games, and Kwah introduction being silly, is all that he has done other than Palmar. 2 of which (LS talk and Kwah) doesn't seem to spark any read from him, and he never read the games to our knowledge.
So, most likely he is in love with Palmar, and after the game, will propose to him. Wouldn't mind lynching him, thou other people might be better.
Palmar Nothing out of the ordinary. Dead Null, Want Explainations
5. Shapelog has been completely nonconfrontational, meek, and unsure/wishy washy. It seems that players that pressure even slightly will cause Shapelog to give way. Examples:
On June 07 2016 06:26 Damdred wrote: ##Vote LightningStrike
Easy game
amazing
This amazing sheep could be yours if the price is right.
Come on down KEL! Put that vote down where you think is the correct path (pst its sheep damdred thats the game).
If you do this wonderful prize will be yours
*audience gasps*
A TOWN VICTORY!
Idk can't tell if serious or trolling me again. You probably are scum if you actually 100% serious with that.
Idk, Check Millionaire (cell).
I cannot remember how he acted there since it's been awhile, but I somewhat remember him be like this (he was scum.) And I never remember him being this jokey.
Though, some of that was with the mayor race so idk.
On June 07 2016 06:26 Damdred wrote: ##Vote LightningStrike
Easy game
amazing
This amazing sheep could be yours if the price is right.
Come on down KEL! Put that vote down where you think is the correct path (pst its sheep damdred thats the game).
If you do this wonderful prize will be yours
*audience gasps*
A TOWN VICTORY!
Idk can't tell if serious or trolling me again. You probably are scum if you actually 100% serious with that.
Idk, Check Millionaire (cell).
I cannot remember how he acted there since it's been awhile, but I somewhat remember him be like this (he was scum.) And I never remember him being this jokey.
Though, some of that was with the mayor race so idk.
But meh.
(what is the point of that post even? it's a self reply!)
On June 07 2016 06:36 Rels wrote: [quote] Ls is likely town Ksc is maybe town for seeing this right now
Hmmm, Nothing really is sticking towards me other than the fact SL just disappear, but that doesn't hold a lot of weight towards finding out his alignment. And he could just be lurking. Prob. check cell and see.
Check cell for what reason ?
He got paranoia from playing to much plague inc evolved :o
I actually have just been playing total war rome 2 for obv. reasons >_>. Suggesting that the Codester would ever play a game with the word "Plague" in it is just to far.
And you ruined the joke I was referencing
I mean, I do have a nice rear, but how does that = that? I am so confused.
Paranoia is a symptom in that game lol.
Ah, well, I am suffering maybe from that because i find it fishy that:
On June 07 2016 06:48 wherebugsgo wrote: guys I got it figured out. Everyone who has posted so far is town.
##vote Palmar
happens, and 5 mins later
On June 07 2016 06:53 Palmar wrote: pls mister president i am innocent.
For both their entrance posts.
But gumshoe thought people for scum because of the fact they both posted at the same time, and one of them was vig (other town) so meh. Just really coincidental, or offchance planned.
I think I could keep going but I think I've said enough to show my point (and I want to see if other people see other things that I did not explicitly mention).
If anybody sees anything that causes them to think Shapelog is town, please point it out. There are a couple things that lead me to be a bit unsure but I'd be curious if anyone else notices them. Also if anyone thinks there is a better lynch, please provide one. I'll be around for a couple hours before the lynch is over and I will be able to catch up on the thread and vote but I won't be able to push anything beyond what I'm doing now.
Finally, a post.
1. Before this post, at lot of people actually town read me. They all are wary because i've proven to be able to make town as scum do stupid shit before. Most of the list actually have played in those 2 games, tumble in all 3 of my scum games. They know how i can mutilate votes, set up fucking crazy lylo's, how I act etc. They also know that I can adapt to quickly as well. So there is a reason to why everyone is hesitant to tr me. The only other people who aren't are Tumble/palmar/SL for the most part. Pal for no clue, SL for me being cute (which i mostly am) and Tumble for lack of content (which is something I always have probs. with, so i actually confused on that.)
I am actually glad no one is hard hard tr me because It makes me want to prove I can actually play town more.
2. Filter dives (about 3), asking people for reads, working with people, etc. isn't contributing at all? Me not trying to show how for example you and Palmar could still be a team as scum buddys, Kush replacement etc. isn't contributing? this is more than I prob. ever contributed at all Day 1 except maybe my first game ever.
3. Unlike my scum self, I actually did do them. For example, your damdred post show off is entirely false. I did filter another person (Kel) basically right after that post. How the fuck you missed it idk. I checked cell, and posted that I found nothing and even linked it. I did filtyer LS (skim tho), I did try to read chez, And I did come back and talk. This entire point is false because I actually came back and did that, and I can link almost each one from my filter as well if need be.
4. Because I wasn't done reading people and I am throughoh in my reads? I like to check everyone, analyze all that I can before i make votes and stuff like that, unless they are jokey.
5. lol, being meek off of 2 posts that really aren't being meek. cell was back in Jan. so yes, Idk at the time if i was right or not. And the meh respond was because it really didn't want to (but i did later)
That last one is because it is not even strong evdance at the time. I just pointed it out because it seemed fishy to me how spot on that was so early on.
On June 09 2016 02:16 Rels wrote: Shape's seriousness is not characteristic of his townplay. Makes me more OK with his lynch
Maybe it is because I actually want to help fucking town for once because I am tried of beening know as that?
Besides, Ik for a fact you all aren't going to lynch me today.
Dunno there is little reason for you to be this angry tonewise when you haven't read WBG's big post on you + the following posts agreeing with it yet. The only thing going against you in your mind should be Tumble's post which shouldn't make you serious + angry. So this makes me think you know there is a big case waiting for you and you're faking catching up right now
Or I came in and saw 2 people (koshi and wbg) talking about lynching me, saw the case on (haven't read) and saw your thing, which made me come to the logical assumption that people want to lynch me?
On June 09 2016 02:32 sicklucker wrote: I dont know your bad at reading new players apparently. I found him quite townie and explained why already. do I have to reexplain?
On June 09 2016 02:32 sicklucker wrote: I dont know your bad at reading new players apparently. I found him quite townie and explained why already. do I have to reexplain?
On June 08 2016 17:29 Koshi wrote: ##unvote ##Vote Shapelog
Not against this lynch after that post from wbg. My hipster self would like to vote VE again. Really dislike how he nitpicked something in TW his listpost to discard credibility and make TW look bad. While the overall quality of that listpost was pretty good for a replacement.
Or I am wondering how he is agreeing with a Palmar's reads when we don't even know what those reads are on?
Like littlery, chez has given more info on a read then Palmar.
I still think people attacking him are suspect even tho I havent tried to figure him out which I should probably do now. Like The reason I voted you rels is because I opened your filter saw 2 pages of drunk posting with no content and you going after the most easy player
On June 09 2016 02:16 Rels wrote: Shape's seriousness is not characteristic of his townplay. Makes me more OK with his lynch
Maybe it is because I actually want to help fucking town for once because I am tried of beening know as that?
Besides, Ik for a fact you all aren't going to lynch me today.
Dunno there is little reason for you to be this angry tonewise when you haven't read WBG's big post on you + the following posts agreeing with it yet. The only thing going against you in your mind should be Tumble's post which shouldn't make you serious + angry. So this makes me think you know there is a big case waiting for you and you're faking catching up right now
Or I came in and saw 2 people (koshi and wbg) talking about lynching me, saw the case on (haven't read) and saw your thing, which made me come to the logical assumption that people want to lynch me?
On June 08 2016 17:42 Koshi wrote: VE. I don't know if you are being really bad because you are really bad or because you don't have time or w.e reason that not is that you are mafia. But if we read Palmar his REALLY short filter and compare it to TW his REALLY short filter it takes around 5 secs to see that TW has been in Palmar his ass as soon as he replaced in so it isn't a surprise to anybody that Palmar is super high on TW his list.
So the reason why Palmar is so highly town in TW his ranking is SUPEROBVIOUS.
You painting like TW is just basing his entire list on activity and that your activity is superb and you should be above Palmar is SUPER BAD. SUPER DUPER MEGA BAD.
On June 08 2016 10:28 Tumblewood wrote: OH SHIT READS I FORGOT THOSE damdred shape scum palmar kelsier sl koshi town rest unknown I agree with palmar's reads so far
On June 08 2016 10:28 Tumblewood wrote: OH SHIT READS I FORGOT THOSE damdredshape scum palmar kelsier sl koshi town rest unknown I agree with palmar's reads so far
oh hey lol damdred said the same thing as me.
Only thing you meation about Damdred in your list.
On June 08 2016 10:27 Tumblewood wrote: after the replacement post: - where bugs go the original story has me in tears
On June 08 2016 10:18 Shapelog wrote: Idk, Tumble did you actually get your wish, and replaced in as scum, and now will be able to have a scum meta after what? 8-9 games?
nope can't even get a scum role PM when I steal someone else's - dammit the thing I spoilered didn't spoiler
me
Palmar is not even on your catch up post.
You can go ahead and explain the reads on those 3 btw. The fact you got something other than Null for Palmar interests me
copying that thing kelsier said, why do you care about my damdred scumread more than my you scumread
re: damdred read feels re: palmar read I agree with him so clearly he's leading us to the d1 scum lynch also feels
Was the bold the reason why I am scum? Did you actually read the response I gave?
alright on damdred
But how the fuck is Palmar leading anyone onto anything? even if you think Damdred is scum, Palmar hasn't been fucking here leading anyone.
not the reason you're scum, you didn't ask for that reason. that's just another reason. the real reason is high volume low presence (aka you make up a quarter of the thread's post but aren't making an outsize contribution). of course palmar's not leading us yet but with the combined force of some possible effort later on and tl's hardon for him anything can happen. most of that was to say that I agree with his reads.
[/B] [/QUOTE] Broke his promise for breaking his avocational meta.
Explain the bold on how Palmar should be obv town read, and based it off of what ever logic you were using.
On June 09 2016 02:37 sicklucker wrote: I still think people attacking him are suspect even tho I havent tried to figure him out which I should probably do now. Like The reason I voted you rels is because I opened your filter saw 2 pages of drunk posting with no content and you going after the most easy player
1. Do you think WBG is a new player ? 2. Since you're good at reading new player, what do you think of what I've wrote about tomahawk ?
On June 09 2016 02:16 Rels wrote: Shape's seriousness is not characteristic of his townplay. Makes me more OK with his lynch
Maybe it is because I actually want to help fucking town for once because I am tried of beening know as that?
Besides, Ik for a fact you all aren't going to lynch me today.
Dunno there is little reason for you to be this angry tonewise when you haven't read WBG's big post on you + the following posts agreeing with it yet. The only thing going against you in your mind should be Tumble's post which shouldn't make you serious + angry. So this makes me think you know there is a big case waiting for you and you're faking catching up right now
Or I came in and saw 2 people (koshi and wbg) talking about lynching me, saw the case on (haven't read) and saw your thing, which made me come to the logical assumption that people want to lynch me?
How did you know there was a case on you ?
Because I scrolled down the page i was on (which i do) before I read it, and saw there was a case on me.
that being said you voted kwah over a bullshit weak reason and he omgused you.I dont see how you think thats 100% confirmed mafia thats null to townie for a new player to do. Acualy more townie
On June 09 2016 02:16 Rels wrote: Shape's seriousness is not characteristic of his townplay. Makes me more OK with his lynch
Maybe it is because I actually want to help fucking town for once because I am tried of beening know as that?
Besides, Ik for a fact you all aren't going to lynch me today.
Dunno there is little reason for you to be this angry tonewise when you haven't read WBG's big post on you + the following posts agreeing with it yet. The only thing going against you in your mind should be Tumble's post which shouldn't make you serious + angry. So this makes me think you know there is a big case waiting for you and you're faking catching up right now
Or I came in and saw 2 people (koshi and wbg) talking about lynching me, saw the case on (haven't read) and saw your thing, which made me come to the logical assumption that people want to lynch me?
How did you know there was a case on you ?
Because I scrolled down the page i was on (which i do) before I read it, and saw there was a case on me.
On June 08 2016 10:28 Tumblewood wrote: OH SHIT READS I FORGOT THOSE damdredshape scum palmar kelsier sl koshi town rest unknown I agree with palmar's reads so far
oh hey lol damdred said the same thing as me.
Only thing you meation about Damdred in your list.
On June 08 2016 10:27 Tumblewood wrote: after the replacement post: - where bugs go the original story has me in tears
On June 08 2016 10:18 Shapelog wrote: Idk, Tumble did you actually get your wish, and replaced in as scum, and now will be able to have a scum meta after what? 8-9 games?
nope can't even get a scum role PM when I steal someone else's - dammit the thing I spoilered didn't spoiler
me
Palmar is not even on your catch up post.
You can go ahead and explain the reads on those 3 btw. The fact you got something other than Null for Palmar interests me
copying that thing kelsier said, why do you care about my damdred scumread more than my you scumread
re: damdred read feels re: palmar read I agree with him so clearly he's leading us to the d1 scum lynch also feels
Was the bold the reason why I am scum? Did you actually read the response I gave?
alright on damdred
But how the fuck is Palmar leading anyone onto anything? even if you think Damdred is scum, Palmar hasn't been fucking here leading anyone.
not the reason you're scum, you didn't ask for that reason. that's just another reason. the real reason is high volume low presence (aka you make up a quarter of the thread's post but aren't making an outsize contribution). of course palmar's not leading us yet but with the combined force of some possible effort later on and tl's hardon for him anything can happen. most of that was to say that I agree with his reads.
I did ask for me, and fair i guess. Am working out content tho.
I am predicting that Palmar hasn't posted, so tumble, do you actually know his reasoning behind the votes/reads of his? Because up to this post at least, he hasn't explain any of them, so it is kinda hard to agree with a read that looks like:
"Damdred scum, shape mostly scum"
I just refuse to believe that you, out of all people, who I know can play smart and usually do, is sheeping a person who hasn't even explained their reads, and agreeing with said none explained reads.
you're angry because you read the case down the page ?
On June 08 2016 18:03 VisceraEyes wrote: I think I use that word differently than you. You're going to base a lot of decisions about who you think is mafia on that read, and it's wrong, and you're going to be horribly wrong all game because of it. Kinda sucks.
also unlikely. TW is lock town because his reads are based on reading the thread and he he had to read the thread after replacing in.
He said that 2 of his reads, Damdred and Palmar, where on feelings.
Feelings.
And it is oxymoronic that you say he had to read the thread since he replaced in -> he is town because he basically did something he had to do.
On June 09 2016 02:37 sicklucker wrote: I still think people attacking him are suspect even tho I havent tried to figure him out which I should probably do now. Like The reason I voted you rels is because I opened your filter saw 2 pages of drunk posting with no content and you going after the most easy player
1. Do you think WBG is a new player ? 2. Since you're good at reading new player, what do you think of what I've wrote about tomahawk ?
1.no? just new to me so i lumped him in a group in my head 2. garbage thin suspect even I cant read new players off of opening posts. either your wrong lucky or mafia
On June 09 2016 02:40 sicklucker wrote: that being said you voted kwah over a bullshit weak reason and he omgused you.I dont see how you think thats 100% confirmed mafia thats null to townie for a new player to do. Acualy more townie
On June 09 2016 02:37 sicklucker wrote: I still think people attacking him are suspect even tho I havent tried to figure him out which I should probably do now. Like The reason I voted you rels is because I opened your filter saw 2 pages of drunk posting with no content and you going after the most easy player
1. Do you think WBG is a new player ? 2. Since you're good at reading new player, what do you think of what I've wrote about tomahawk ?
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