On June 08 2016 18:03 VisceraEyes wrote: I think I use that word differently than you. You're going to base a lot of decisions about who you think is mafia on that read, and it's wrong, and you're going to be horribly wrong all game because of it. Kinda sucks.
also unlikely. TW is lock town because his reads are based on reading the thread and he he had to read the thread after replacing in.
what this doesn't make sense of course my reads are based on reading the thread, so are everyone else's. what are we supposed to do, throw darts at a list of names?
On June 08 2016 18:03 VisceraEyes wrote: I think I use that word differently than you. You're going to base a lot of decisions about who you think is mafia on that read, and it's wrong, and you're going to be horribly wrong all game because of it. Kinda sucks.
also unlikely. TW is lock town because his reads are based on reading the thread and he he had to read the thread after replacing in.
what this doesn't make sense of course my reads are based on reading the thread, so are everyone else's. what are we supposed to do, throw darts at a list of names?
sand in vagina problems today?
no I'm doing my best jat impression your read is no better than "he's lock town for signing up for the game" and I want you to explain it
On June 07 2016 12:46 Kwahamot wrote: Hey guys, this is an introduction. Excited to play with you all!
Anyways Day 1 is really annoying cause I don't have the experience to have reads on all you guys from fluffy posts but I'm leaning town on Shapelog and sicklucker.
Shapelog because he dictated the pace of the game so far. And for sicklucker, I can understand his thought process in calling out Shapelog but so far it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours.
What Introduction? Or is the introduction "Excited to play with you all!"?
anyways,
First off, how much mafia experience do you have? I just want to know. As of making reads (and catching scum) look at the numerous guides in the forum. They give a nice outline on what to do, even if they are a bit out of date.
So moving onto my second question, is anyone standing out to you for any reason at all?
it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours
Funny enough, this is exactly (or close too) what SL said.
##Vote Kwahamot Prepared first post shows a difficulty to enter the thread. The "newbie" excuse is typical of newbie scum. Random reads are random and are looking like he wanted to fill up his post with "serious" stuff.
like pretty much the 101 of getting the new/lynchbait player out. I called holyflare out for it last game and was right. sometimes level one thinking is best
New players are usually easier to read. What is wrong with what I've said ?
Tomahawk is so scum. He got pressured by one guy, took the time to write one bad post to defend himself and OMGUS attack me then went to sleep immediately afterwards without doing anything else. Again, classical newbie scum. Everything he does is newb scum indicative.
On June 07 2016 12:46 Kwahamot wrote: Hey guys, this is an introduction. Excited to play with you all!
Anyways Day 1 is really annoying cause I don't have the experience to have reads on all you guys from fluffy posts but I'm leaning town on Shapelog and sicklucker.
Shapelog because he dictated the pace of the game so far. And for sicklucker, I can understand his thought process in calling out Shapelog but so far it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours.
What Introduction? Or is the introduction "Excited to play with you all!"?
anyways,
First off, how much mafia experience do you have? I just want to know. As of making reads (and catching scum) look at the numerous guides in the forum. They give a nice outline on what to do, even if they are a bit out of date.
So moving onto my second question, is anyone standing out to you for any reason at all?
it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours
Funny enough, this is exactly (or close too) what SL said.
##Vote Kwahamot Prepared first post shows a difficulty to enter the thread. The "newbie" excuse is typical of newbie scum. Random reads are random and are looking like he wanted to fill up his post with "serious" stuff.
Well how should I put this.. This is a response post! Responding to both Shapelog's original response and Rels' claim.
I just wanted to bless the thread with some dry humor. The introduction is the introduction. I made that post and prepared it and I'm making this post right now because I've had a busy start to the game and I wanted to get my thoughts down in one go but I'll address my small portions of inactivity next time.
I've briefly skimmed the analysis pinned to be able to make a few day 1 calls. The "excuse" was to put things into perspective perhaps some of you guys expect me to immediately fit like a puzzle into this game. I don't think my reads were all that random by the way and I don't think I'd be helping if I talked about the weather as opposed to my "serious" stuff. At least we're talking about me now right? I think the facilitation of discussion makes your case of being town much stronger actually.
On June 07 2016 06:19 Rels wrote: Yo I drink so I'm drunk
That's nice,
Why don't we talk so I can gather a read on you, and you can stop me spamming?
Is it a serious offer ?
Yes. I'm serious. I find your lack of faith most disturbing.
Then yes please
Anything stick out to you? I know it's super early, but wonder if you spot anything.
Ls is likely town Ksc is maybe town for seeing this right now
this one. always more likely a townie makes a posts in which he townreads somebody for thinking the same. just looks like a solid post.
I was reluctant to comply to your demands but because you are doing things I did as a token of good will. Now that I did it and saw how brilliant my read is I am even happy I did it.
PS: your read on kawadude is premature so don't push it too hard because it could very well be completely wrong.
Brillant indeed p: My read on tomhahawk might be early but it is quite good. First posts are very revelative for newbies
On to my main point and the overdue response to Shapelog, Rels, I believe you are reading backwards. Although I did claim that I don't have the experience to read you guys in the game, I never said I was a newbie and I think you would be fishing a little bit.
But just after in your post you say "amount of mafia experience? well some amount I guess mostly offline. I lurked a few threads but never really followed one actively", so you're a newbie correct ?
On June 08 2016 14:27 Kwahamot wrote: You haven't really been saying much.. you responded to my introduction and called out the replacement soo heres some pressure ##Vote: Rels
I thought you just said "I think the facilitation of discussion makes your case of being town much stronger actually." ?
On June 08 2016 15:13 wherebugsgo wrote: I'm going to ignore tomahawk for now because he's doing some incredibly stupid things but stupid != scum and I would prefer the certainty of a better lynch over lynching a newbie.
##unvote ##vote Shapelog
tl;dr of what follows: I won't be around much in the next 12 hours, but we should kill Shapelog. Shapelog is meek, nonconfrontational, says a lot but doesn't contribute anything, and is suspected by pretty much everyone. Best lynch we'll get today. Details follow.
I would ordinarily be annoyed with the number of noncontributors we have but I'm actually pretty happy with the state of my reads of those people who actually have posted. The process of elimination should become easier with a bit more time. With that said, since I probably won't be here to drive the lynch, I propose that we kill Shapelog today.
1. Pretty much everyone in the game has said that they are suspicious of Shape, but only one person has actually voted with those suspicions. This is often an indication that someone is just skating by, a pretty big scum trait, whereas people who very obviously stick out are generally not scum. I'm fairly certain we'd get a good amount of blowback to a lynch effort on Shapelog as well, which would be great, because I seriously doubt that the resistance would make Shapelog look better.
2. Shapelog constantly pratters on and on without seeming to actually contribute anything. Given that Shapelog has like 1/5 of this game's posts, you would think that it would be easy to figure out Shapelog's reads and thoughts on the game with a single read-through of the game. Yet, nothing has stuck out, and I cannot actually recall anything Shapelog has said of substance without going filter diving and detail hunting.
3. I found myself spotting a lot of posts of Shapelog's that are of the "I'm going to do X" or "hi I'm here" kind of thing. The self-focus is very strong, and not something that many townies do. Examples:
On June 08 2016 06:44 Shapelog wrote: Oh yeah I skipped over this post.
On June 07 2016 10:11 sicklucker wrote: you ripped my yugioh cards and then backed down
Yeah, fuck your blue eyes,
Onto more serious matters, nothing is bothering me from you other than your fixation on me and nothing else (might of changed since this post.) You keep coming back and posting just to me, and not towards or on anything else in the thread. You have (remember at the time of this post) not made any apparent reads or thoughts on anyone else. Which kinda rubs me wrong, because that doesn't seem like something town should do. I mean yes, town can get tunneled, but you yourself said it was for bad reason's (me being cute) so you not really dead set in it.
After typing it out, it kinda bothers me more. But I think for now I going to actually catch up.
i literraly gave a reads list a few posts before this page dumbo
Yeah I found it after the Yugi card post the page afterward and posted about it.
On June 08 2016 09:00 Shapelog wrote: I actually check damdred's filter and I am quite shocked that there is nothing hardly there. I would have expected him to do much more than what he currently is doing.
He has 2 reads that are based on something (Ls, and Kel) and 2 off the fly reads (me and Palmar) and all of them are town. There is also nothing heavily suggesting that he is looking at people being scum than
There are several others i'm curious about but not there yet
which is understandable I guess at the time of the post, but when comes back, I would like to know who rubbed him atm.
Other than that, I am surprised he has done nothing other than make jokes. He hasn't been on today either to post as well.
Wouldn't mind lynching maybe if he doesn't get his shit together.
Will now dive another person
Note that I could go back and find a dozen other posts with the exact same theme, but the idea here is that Shapelog spends a gigantic amount of time saying things like "I'm going to do X" which are incredibly self-focused and seem to just be intended at convincing the thread that useful things are being done.
4. Both of Shapelog's suspicion posts have been of the form "would not mind lynching", as opposed to the more towny approach of "I think this dude is scum, let me vote him and convince all of the rest of you why we should kill him." Shapelog's approach at least from my perspective has been more in the camp of "let me see what sticks by meekly calling a bunch of different people suspicious and then go with the flow".
On June 08 2016 09:00 Shapelog wrote: I actually check damdred's filter and I am quite shocked that there is nothing hardly there. I would have expected him to do much more than what he currently is doing.
He has 2 reads that are based on something (Ls, and Kel) and 2 off the fly reads (me and Palmar) and all of them are town. There is also nothing heavily suggesting that he is looking at people being scum than
There are several others i'm curious about but not there yet
which is understandable I guess at the time of the post, but when comes back, I would like to know who rubbed him atm.
Other than that, I am surprised he has done nothing other than make jokes. He hasn't been on today either to post as well.
Wouldn't mind lynching maybe if he doesn't get his shit together.
On June 08 2016 09:35 Shapelog wrote: Reads -bugs I just do not understand why he is focused so fucking much on Palmar, and nothing else. Infact, the small talk to LS, asking about my games, and Kwah introduction being silly, is all that he has done other than Palmar. 2 of which (LS talk and Kwah) doesn't seem to spark any read from him, and he never read the games to our knowledge.
So, most likely he is in love with Palmar, and after the game, will propose to him. Wouldn't mind lynching him, thou other people might be better.
Palmar Nothing out of the ordinary. Dead Null, Want Explainations
5. Shapelog has been completely nonconfrontational, meek, and unsure/wishy washy. It seems that players that pressure even slightly will cause Shapelog to give way. Examples:
On June 07 2016 06:26 Damdred wrote: ##Vote LightningStrike
Easy game
amazing
This amazing sheep could be yours if the price is right.
Come on down KEL! Put that vote down where you think is the correct path (pst its sheep damdred thats the game).
If you do this wonderful prize will be yours
*audience gasps*
A TOWN VICTORY!
Idk can't tell if serious or trolling me again. You probably are scum if you actually 100% serious with that.
Idk, Check Millionaire (cell).
I cannot remember how he acted there since it's been awhile, but I somewhat remember him be like this (he was scum.) And I never remember him being this jokey.
Though, some of that was with the mayor race so idk.
On June 07 2016 06:26 Damdred wrote: ##Vote LightningStrike
Easy game
amazing
This amazing sheep could be yours if the price is right.
Come on down KEL! Put that vote down where you think is the correct path (pst its sheep damdred thats the game).
If you do this wonderful prize will be yours
*audience gasps*
A TOWN VICTORY!
Idk can't tell if serious or trolling me again. You probably are scum if you actually 100% serious with that.
Idk, Check Millionaire (cell).
I cannot remember how he acted there since it's been awhile, but I somewhat remember him be like this (he was scum.) And I never remember him being this jokey.
Though, some of that was with the mayor race so idk.
But meh.
(what is the point of that post even? it's a self reply!)
On June 07 2016 06:36 Rels wrote: [quote] Ls is likely town Ksc is maybe town for seeing this right now
Hmmm, Nothing really is sticking towards me other than the fact SL just disappear, but that doesn't hold a lot of weight towards finding out his alignment. And he could just be lurking. Prob. check cell and see.
Check cell for what reason ?
He got paranoia from playing to much plague inc evolved :o
I actually have just been playing total war rome 2 for obv. reasons >_>. Suggesting that the Codester would ever play a game with the word "Plague" in it is just to far.
And you ruined the joke I was referencing
I mean, I do have a nice rear, but how does that = that? I am so confused.
Paranoia is a symptom in that game lol.
Ah, well, I am suffering maybe from that because i find it fishy that:
On June 07 2016 06:48 wherebugsgo wrote: guys I got it figured out. Everyone who has posted so far is town.
##vote Palmar
happens, and 5 mins later
On June 07 2016 06:53 Palmar wrote: pls mister president i am innocent.
For both their entrance posts.
But gumshoe thought people for scum because of the fact they both posted at the same time, and one of them was vig (other town) so meh. Just really coincidental, or offchance planned.
I think I could keep going but I think I've said enough to show my point (and I want to see if other people see other things that I did not explicitly mention).
If anybody sees anything that causes them to think Shapelog is town, please point it out. There are a couple things that lead me to be a bit unsure but I'd be curious if anyone else notices them. Also if anyone thinks there is a better lynch, please provide one. I'll be around for a couple hours before the lynch is over and I will be able to catch up on the thread and vote but I won't be able to push anything beyond what I'm doing now.
In hindsight (I was re-reading this now) maybe shapelog is more mafia than rels for that kwah introduction post thing.
Two people jumped this guy for making a fairly vanilla introduction post. If kwah is mafia that is not why he is mafia. On one hand shapelog looks worse because apparently he was setting up a trap? or something? for kwah (which is double dumb because traps are dumb, and traps for people who are new and might do whatever are even dumber). On the other hand it's easier to hold Rels accountable to not being bad in general, so him jumping that is kinda awful.
On June 08 2016 17:46 VisceraEyes wrote: Neat, like that's a really cool story bro. It doesn't make me mafia at all though, OR bad. I'm right, it's ridiculous. Maybe I'm wrong and he's town, but that list is totally invalid to me.
Now I've stated very clearly that my vote will only be important around lynch time, who I'm voting for right now should NOT be how you're basing your fucking read of me. Stop being bad.
So now that you've admited your reason for voting Tumble was wrong, what is your read on Tumble ?
On June 08 2016 23:41 Palmar wrote: In hindsight (I was re-reading this now) maybe shapelog is more mafia than rels for that kwah introduction post thing.
Two people jumped this guy for making a fairly vanilla introduction post. If kwah is mafia that is not why he is mafia. On one hand shapelog looks worse because apparently he was setting up a trap? or something? for kwah (which is double dumb because traps are dumb, and traps for people who are new and might do whatever are even dumber). On the other hand it's easier to hold Rels accountable to not being bad in general, so him jumping that is kinda awful.
I'm not bad and I'm convinced Tomahawk is scum. He is playing exactly how a newb scum plays. 100% scum
On June 08 2016 23:41 Palmar wrote: In hindsight (I was re-reading this now) maybe shapelog is more mafia than rels for that kwah introduction post thing.
Two people jumped this guy for making a fairly vanilla introduction post. If kwah is mafia that is not why he is mafia. On one hand shapelog looks worse because apparently he was setting up a trap? or something? for kwah (which is double dumb because traps are dumb, and traps for people who are new and might do whatever are even dumber). On the other hand it's easier to hold Rels accountable to not being bad in general, so him jumping that is kinda awful.
I'm not bad and I'm convinced Tomahawk is scum. He is playing exactly how a newb scum plays. 100% scum
I haven't even read past the post you guys jumped.
maybe he is mafia, I'm not gonna defend him. But the post that both of you attacked was not something that makes someone lock mafia.
On June 08 2016 23:41 Palmar wrote: In hindsight (I was re-reading this now) maybe shapelog is more mafia than rels for that kwah introduction post thing.
Two people jumped this guy for making a fairly vanilla introduction post. If kwah is mafia that is not why he is mafia. On one hand shapelog looks worse because apparently he was setting up a trap? or something? for kwah (which is double dumb because traps are dumb, and traps for people who are new and might do whatever are even dumber). On the other hand it's easier to hold Rels accountable to not being bad in general, so him jumping that is kinda awful.
I'm not bad and I'm convinced Tomahawk is scum. He is playing exactly how a newb scum plays. 100% scum
I haven't even read past the post you guys jumped.
maybe he is mafia, I'm not gonna defend him. But the post that both of you attacked was not something that makes someone lock mafia.
There is nothing else to read apart from the defense post. I will change my mind if he becomes townie. Right now he's the most likely guy to flip scum
On June 08 2016 23:41 Palmar wrote: In hindsight (I was re-reading this now) maybe shapelog is more mafia than rels for that kwah introduction post thing.
Two people jumped this guy for making a fairly vanilla introduction post. If kwah is mafia that is not why he is mafia. On one hand shapelog looks worse because apparently he was setting up a trap? or something? for kwah (which is double dumb because traps are dumb, and traps for people who are new and might do whatever are even dumber). On the other hand it's easier to hold Rels accountable to not being bad in general, so him jumping that is kinda awful.
I'm not bad and I'm convinced Tomahawk is scum. He is playing exactly how a newb scum plays. 100% scum
I get really annoyed when people make claims like "100% scum". You can never be sure!
EPT
