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On June 09 2016 02:43 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2016 02:40 Shapelog wrote:On June 09 2016 02:38 Rels wrote:On June 09 2016 02:33 Shapelog wrote:On June 09 2016 02:23 Rels wrote:On June 09 2016 02:19 Shapelog wrote:On June 09 2016 02:16 Rels wrote: Shape's seriousness is not characteristic of his townplay. Makes me more OK with his lynch Maybe it is because I actually want to help fucking town for once because I am tried of beening know as that? Besides, Ik for a fact you all aren't going to lynch me today. Dunno there is little reason for you to be this angry tonewise when you haven't read WBG's big post on you + the following posts agreeing with it yet. The only thing going against you in your mind should be Tumble's post which shouldn't make you serious + angry. So this makes me think you know there is a big case waiting for you and you're faking catching up right now Or I came in and saw 2 people (koshi and wbg) talking about lynching me, saw the case on (haven't read) and saw your thing, which made me come to the logical assumption that people want to lynch me? How did you know there was a case on you ? Because I scrolled down the page i was on (which i do) before I read it, and saw there was a case on me. So in these posts: Show nested quote +On June 09 2016 02:03 Shapelog wrote:On June 08 2016 12:05 wherebugsgo wrote: hey VE, talk to me.
What do you think of ShapeLog? (I'm gonna purposely capitalize the Log from now on) Did you even read the fucking games? Or did I waste my time? Show nested quote +On June 09 2016 02:09 Shapelog wrote:On June 08 2016 13:41 Tumblewood wrote:On June 08 2016 11:09 Shapelog wrote:On June 08 2016 11:05 Tumblewood wrote:On June 08 2016 10:34 Shapelog wrote:On June 08 2016 10:28 Tumblewood wrote: OH SHIT READS I FORGOT THOSE damdred shape scum palmar kelsier sl koshi town rest unknown I agree with palmar's reads so far oh hey lol damdred said the same thing as me. Only thing you meation about Damdred in your list. On June 08 2016 10:27 Tumblewood wrote:after the replacement post: - where bugs go the original story has me in tears On June 08 2016 10:18 Shapelog wrote:Idk, Tumble did you actually get your wish, and replaced in as scum, and now will be able to have a scum meta after what? 8-9 games?  nope can't even get a scum role PM when I steal someone else's - dammit the thing I spoilered didn't spoiler me Palmar is not even on your catch up post. You can go ahead and explain the reads on those 3 btw. The fact you got something other than Null for Palmar interests me copying that thing kelsier said, why do you care about my damdred scumread more than my you scumreadre: damdred readfeels re: palmar readI agree with him so clearly he's leading us to the d1 scum lynch also feels Was the bold the reason why I am scum? Did you actually read the response I gave? alright on damdred But how the fuck is Palmar leading anyone onto anything? even if you think Damdred is scum, Palmar hasn't been fucking here leading anyone. not the reason you're scum, you didn't ask for that reason. that's just another reason. the real reason is high volume low presence (aka you make up a quarter of the thread's post but aren't making an outsize contribution). of course palmar's not leading us yet but with the combined force of some possible effort later on and tl's hardon for him anything can happen. most of that was to say that I agree with his reads. I did ask for me, and fair i guess. Am working out content tho. I am predicting that Palmar hasn't posted, so tumble, do you actually know his reasoning behind the votes/reads of his? Because up to this post at least, he hasn't explain any of them, so it is kinda hard to agree with a read that looks like: "Damdred scum, shape mostly scum" I just refuse to believe that you, out of all people, who I know can play smart and usually do, is sheeping a person who hasn't even explained their reads, and agreeing with said none explained reads. you're angry because you read the case down the page ? Oh no, I been tumble hating since last night because of the Palmar thing.
And i was angry at WBG because I linked them, and he has asked 4-5 different people (or different times, same people) for their reads on me, and never followed up on those games.
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I am also in a bad mood today in general because my levels are off most likey.
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On June 09 2016 02:44 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2016 02:39 Rels wrote:On June 09 2016 02:37 sicklucker wrote: I still think people attacking him are suspect even tho I havent tried to figure him out which I should probably do now. Like The reason I voted you rels is because I opened your filter saw 2 pages of drunk posting with no content and you going after the most easy player 1. Do you think WBG is a new player ? 2. Since you're good at reading new player, what do you think of what I've wrote about tomahawk ? 1.no? just new to me so i lumped him in a group in my head 2. garbage thin suspect even I cant read new players off of opening posts. either your wrong lucky or mafia 2 is wrong, entrance post are actually very revelative for newbies.
1 doesn't make sense. In this series of posts you're thinking I'm pushing & voting bugs:
On June 09 2016 02:24 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 23:18 Rels wrote:On June 08 2016 13:01 sicklucker wrote:On June 08 2016 07:06 Rels wrote:On June 08 2016 07:02 Shapelog wrote:Moving on On June 07 2016 12:46 Kwahamot wrote: Hey guys, this is an introduction. Excited to play with you all!
Anyways Day 1 is really annoying cause I don't have the experience to have reads on all you guys from fluffy posts but I'm leaning town on Shapelog and sicklucker.
Shapelog because he dictated the pace of the game so far. And for sicklucker, I can understand his thought process in calling out Shapelog but so far it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours. What Introduction? Or is the introduction "Excited to play with you all!"? anyways, First off, how much mafia experience do you have? I just want to know. As of making reads (and catching scum) look at the numerous guides in the forum. They give a nice outline on what to do, even if they are a bit out of date. So moving onto my second question, is anyone standing out to you for any reason at all? + Show Spoiler [funny point] + it's hard to make a good case but it's only been 6 hours Funny enough, this is exactly (or close too) what SL said. ##Vote KwahamotPrepared first post shows a difficulty to enter the thread. The "newbie" excuse is typical of newbie scum. Random reads are random and are looking like he wanted to fill up his post with "serious" stuff. like pretty much the 101 of getting the new/lynchbait player out. I called holyflare out for it last game and was right. sometimes level one thinking is best New players are usually easier to read. What is wrong with what I've said ? thats not true altho I personally have an easy time myself and your claiming too the mast majority dont try or dot think they can read new players and just lynch them im sure statistics back this up but. I know like the one time I played video mafia I was a snap lynch for example. Hell I was mislynched in the 128 player game of universe mafia day 1. people dont try to figure out new players they lynch them
On June 09 2016 02:32 sicklucker wrote: I dont know your bad at reading new players apparently. I found him quite townie and explained why already. do I have to reexplain?
On June 09 2016 02:34 sicklucker wrote: I really feel like their should be a rels voting bandwagon here. lying out of his pants is something he does quite well as the mafia
On June 09 2016 02:35 sicklucker wrote: we are talking about bugs right? I dont town read that other guy might have got mixed up. but you're attacking me for attacking a new player. You cannot both think that I'm attacking WBG and that I'm scummy because I'm pushing a new player.
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On June 08 2016 20:08 Palmar wrote: I know Damdred. This Damdred that we saw at the beginning of the game was not the real Damdred.
On June 08 2016 20:10 Palmar wrote: Also it seems like damdy has fucked off more than even I, so that's clearly scummy when someone other than me does it.
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On June 09 2016 02:45 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2016 02:43 Rels wrote:On June 09 2016 02:40 Shapelog wrote:On June 09 2016 02:38 Rels wrote:On June 09 2016 02:33 Shapelog wrote:On June 09 2016 02:23 Rels wrote:On June 09 2016 02:19 Shapelog wrote:On June 09 2016 02:16 Rels wrote: Shape's seriousness is not characteristic of his townplay. Makes me more OK with his lynch Maybe it is because I actually want to help fucking town for once because I am tried of beening know as that? Besides, Ik for a fact you all aren't going to lynch me today. Dunno there is little reason for you to be this angry tonewise when you haven't read WBG's big post on you + the following posts agreeing with it yet. The only thing going against you in your mind should be Tumble's post which shouldn't make you serious + angry. So this makes me think you know there is a big case waiting for you and you're faking catching up right now Or I came in and saw 2 people (koshi and wbg) talking about lynching me, saw the case on (haven't read) and saw your thing, which made me come to the logical assumption that people want to lynch me? How did you know there was a case on you ? Because I scrolled down the page i was on (which i do) before I read it, and saw there was a case on me. So in these posts: On June 09 2016 02:03 Shapelog wrote:On June 08 2016 12:05 wherebugsgo wrote: hey VE, talk to me.
What do you think of ShapeLog? (I'm gonna purposely capitalize the Log from now on) Did you even read the fucking games? Or did I waste my time? On June 09 2016 02:09 Shapelog wrote:On June 08 2016 13:41 Tumblewood wrote:On June 08 2016 11:09 Shapelog wrote:On June 08 2016 11:05 Tumblewood wrote:On June 08 2016 10:34 Shapelog wrote:On June 08 2016 10:28 Tumblewood wrote: OH SHIT READS I FORGOT THOSE damdred shape scum palmar kelsier sl koshi town rest unknown I agree with palmar's reads so far oh hey lol damdred said the same thing as me. Only thing you meation about Damdred in your list. On June 08 2016 10:27 Tumblewood wrote:after the replacement post: - where bugs go the original story has me in tears On June 08 2016 10:18 Shapelog wrote:Idk, Tumble did you actually get your wish, and replaced in as scum, and now will be able to have a scum meta after what? 8-9 games?  nope can't even get a scum role PM when I steal someone else's - dammit the thing I spoilered didn't spoiler me Palmar is not even on your catch up post. You can go ahead and explain the reads on those 3 btw. The fact you got something other than Null for Palmar interests me copying that thing kelsier said, why do you care about my damdred scumread more than my you scumreadre: damdred readfeels re: palmar readI agree with him so clearly he's leading us to the d1 scum lynch also feels Was the bold the reason why I am scum? Did you actually read the response I gave? alright on damdred But how the fuck is Palmar leading anyone onto anything? even if you think Damdred is scum, Palmar hasn't been fucking here leading anyone. not the reason you're scum, you didn't ask for that reason. that's just another reason. the real reason is high volume low presence (aka you make up a quarter of the thread's post but aren't making an outsize contribution). of course palmar's not leading us yet but with the combined force of some possible effort later on and tl's hardon for him anything can happen. most of that was to say that I agree with his reads. I did ask for me, and fair i guess. Am working out content tho. I am predicting that Palmar hasn't posted, so tumble, do you actually know his reasoning behind the votes/reads of his? Because up to this post at least, he hasn't explain any of them, so it is kinda hard to agree with a read that looks like: "Damdred scum, shape mostly scum" I just refuse to believe that you, out of all people, who I know can play smart and usually do, is sheeping a person who hasn't even explained their reads, and agreeing with said none explained reads. you're angry because you read the case down the page ? Oh no, I been tumble hating since last night because of the Palmar thing. And i was angry at WBG because I linked them, and he has asked 4-5 different people (or different times, same people) for their reads on me, and never followed up on those games. I don't find these reasons for being angry tonewise at WBG and Tumble very believable.
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no I had it right in my head at first. but then somewhere I got mixed up. I mixed up the names of the two people I have never played with for like 3 minutes. but I was always talking about the same one
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Alright I pretty much catched up, I was going to type something to TW, but I am broken recording
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log do one of those unofficial vote counts if your keeping track
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On June 09 2016 02:50 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2016 02:45 Shapelog wrote:On June 09 2016 02:43 Rels wrote:On June 09 2016 02:40 Shapelog wrote:On June 09 2016 02:38 Rels wrote:On June 09 2016 02:33 Shapelog wrote:On June 09 2016 02:23 Rels wrote:On June 09 2016 02:19 Shapelog wrote:On June 09 2016 02:16 Rels wrote: Shape's seriousness is not characteristic of his townplay. Makes me more OK with his lynch Maybe it is because I actually want to help fucking town for once because I am tried of beening know as that? Besides, Ik for a fact you all aren't going to lynch me today. Dunno there is little reason for you to be this angry tonewise when you haven't read WBG's big post on you + the following posts agreeing with it yet. The only thing going against you in your mind should be Tumble's post which shouldn't make you serious + angry. So this makes me think you know there is a big case waiting for you and you're faking catching up right now Or I came in and saw 2 people (koshi and wbg) talking about lynching me, saw the case on (haven't read) and saw your thing, which made me come to the logical assumption that people want to lynch me? How did you know there was a case on you ? Because I scrolled down the page i was on (which i do) before I read it, and saw there was a case on me. So in these posts: On June 09 2016 02:03 Shapelog wrote:On June 08 2016 12:05 wherebugsgo wrote: hey VE, talk to me.
What do you think of ShapeLog? (I'm gonna purposely capitalize the Log from now on) Did you even read the fucking games? Or did I waste my time? On June 09 2016 02:09 Shapelog wrote:On June 08 2016 13:41 Tumblewood wrote:On June 08 2016 11:09 Shapelog wrote:On June 08 2016 11:05 Tumblewood wrote:On June 08 2016 10:34 Shapelog wrote:On June 08 2016 10:28 Tumblewood wrote: OH SHIT READS I FORGOT THOSE damdred shape scum palmar kelsier sl koshi town rest unknown I agree with palmar's reads so far oh hey lol damdred said the same thing as me. Only thing you meation about Damdred in your list. On June 08 2016 10:27 Tumblewood wrote:after the replacement post: - where bugs go the original story has me in tears On June 08 2016 10:18 Shapelog wrote:Idk, Tumble did you actually get your wish, and replaced in as scum, and now will be able to have a scum meta after what? 8-9 games?  nope can't even get a scum role PM when I steal someone else's - dammit the thing I spoilered didn't spoiler me Palmar is not even on your catch up post. You can go ahead and explain the reads on those 3 btw. The fact you got something other than Null for Palmar interests me copying that thing kelsier said, why do you care about my damdred scumread more than my you scumreadre: damdred readfeels re: palmar readI agree with him so clearly he's leading us to the d1 scum lynch also feels Was the bold the reason why I am scum? Did you actually read the response I gave? alright on damdred But how the fuck is Palmar leading anyone onto anything? even if you think Damdred is scum, Palmar hasn't been fucking here leading anyone. not the reason you're scum, you didn't ask for that reason. that's just another reason. the real reason is high volume low presence (aka you make up a quarter of the thread's post but aren't making an outsize contribution). of course palmar's not leading us yet but with the combined force of some possible effort later on and tl's hardon for him anything can happen. most of that was to say that I agree with his reads. I did ask for me, and fair i guess. Am working out content tho. I am predicting that Palmar hasn't posted, so tumble, do you actually know his reasoning behind the votes/reads of his? Because up to this post at least, he hasn't explain any of them, so it is kinda hard to agree with a read that looks like: "Damdred scum, shape mostly scum" I just refuse to believe that you, out of all people, who I know can play smart and usually do, is sheeping a person who hasn't even explained their reads, and agreeing with said none explained reads. you're angry because you read the case down the page ? Oh no, I been tumble hating since last night because of the Palmar thing. And i was angry at WBG because I linked them, and he has asked 4-5 different people (or different times, same people) for their reads on me, and never followed up on those games. I don't find these reasons for being angry tonewise at WBG and Tumble very believable. Even if you don't, I believe it, in here *points to your heart*
Now, have you read my response to Wbg case? I actually thought it was good till the dmlord's filter post, because of what I said.
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On June 09 2016 02:54 sicklucker wrote: log do one of those unofficial vote counts if your keeping track I do one, give me a min.
Prob. going to be wrong like last time tho.
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Hey guys I here was just been trying out a new game and wbg cased Shape and the case looks okay I might just having some paranoia about Shape atm. Rels getting onto sicklucker about some stuff. Damdred haven't done much since he finally got his internet back and I really hope he actually does something :\ @Rels What your current read on sicklucker after your exchanges with him? @sicklucker same thing for you about Rels. @WBG did you take his past games in account for your case?
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You will see with the votecount LS
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sicklucker this is very not understadable. Dropping the whole logical stuff cause I can't prove it's a mistake or not. But these:
On June 09 2016 02:37 sicklucker wrote: I still think people attacking him are suspect even tho I havent tried to figure him out which I should probably do now. Like The reason I voted you rels is because I opened your filter saw 2 pages of drunk posting with no content and you going after the most easy player I don't understand why you scumread me for that. Not posting content during the first hours is normal. Tomahawk is scummy, and him being an easy player doesn't matter. You're not talking about my content after that.
On June 09 2016 02:40 sicklucker wrote: that being said you voted kwah over a bullshit weak reason and he omgused you.I dont see how you think thats 100% confirmed mafia thats null to townie for a new player to do. Acualy more townie I don't see how anyone can townread that guy based on his defense post. It is extremely scum indicative. He took a lot of time to write it then went to sleep 1 minute after. When you're scum that's what you do, you wait until the alst second to post something you need to post (like a defense post) because it's fucking hard to lie. Then he contradicted two times insidez this same post, once by scumreading + townreading me at the same time, once by defending saying "I'm not a nwebie" then saying he's a newbie.
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Shapelog's response is so weird to me. Like he is getting angry over me not responding about the games he linked? That's such a weird thing for a townie to get mad about, that he made some sort of effort to find his own games and got nothing to show for it.
It's also really weird that his response to me calling out his self-focus was that he "actually did" what he said he was gonna do (i.e. filter dives). That betrays the fact that he didn't bother to read what I wrote. The self focus aspect of scum is telling the thread how useful you're being. Townies don't do that because they have nothing to prove. They know they are town and their actions will carry that weight. Telling people you're doing stuff and being useful when not even being pressured is generally a scum trait. The response of "oh but I actually did that stuff!!!" is even more of the same of "hey look at me I'm being a townie by doing things like reading"
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On June 09 2016 02:59 sicklucker wrote: You will see with the votecount LS So still scum. I thought you might of changed your after talking with him.
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On June 09 2016 02:57 LightningStrike wrote: Hey guys I here was just been trying out a new game and wbg cased Shape and the case looks okay I might just having some paranoia about Shape atm. Rels getting onto sicklucker about some stuff. Damdred haven't done much since he finally got his internet back and I really hope he actually does something :\ @Rels What your current read on sicklucker after your exchanges with him? @sicklucker same thing for you about Rels. @WBG did you take his past games in account for your case? Scum.
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(unoffical)Day 1 Votecount
Shapelog (3): sicklucker wherebugsgo, Koshi, Koshi, Tumblewood, Palmar, rels (2) sicklucker kwahamot Damdred (2): Palmar, Koshi, Palmar kwahamot (1) rels Kelsiersc(1) Chezinu, visceraeyes Tumbewood (1): visceraeyes LightningStrike (1): Damdred Palmar (0): wherebugsgo sicklucker (0): Shapelog visceraeyes (0): Koshi, Tumblewood (0) koshi
Not Voting (3): KelsierSC, LightningStrike, Shapelog,
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On June 09 2016 03:02 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2016 02:57 LightningStrike wrote: Hey guys I here was just been trying out a new game and wbg cased Shape and the case looks okay I might just having some paranoia about Shape atm. Rels getting onto sicklucker about some stuff. Damdred haven't done much since he finally got his internet back and I really hope he actually does something :\ @Rels What your current read on sicklucker after your exchanges with him? @sicklucker same thing for you about Rels. @WBG did you take his past games in account for your case? Scum. Why you think he is scum?
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On June 09 2016 02:54 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2016 02:50 Rels wrote:On June 09 2016 02:45 Shapelog wrote:On June 09 2016 02:43 Rels wrote:On June 09 2016 02:40 Shapelog wrote:On June 09 2016 02:38 Rels wrote:On June 09 2016 02:33 Shapelog wrote:On June 09 2016 02:23 Rels wrote:On June 09 2016 02:19 Shapelog wrote:On June 09 2016 02:16 Rels wrote: Shape's seriousness is not characteristic of his townplay. Makes me more OK with his lynch Maybe it is because I actually want to help fucking town for once because I am tried of beening know as that? Besides, Ik for a fact you all aren't going to lynch me today. Dunno there is little reason for you to be this angry tonewise when you haven't read WBG's big post on you + the following posts agreeing with it yet. The only thing going against you in your mind should be Tumble's post which shouldn't make you serious + angry. So this makes me think you know there is a big case waiting for you and you're faking catching up right now Or I came in and saw 2 people (koshi and wbg) talking about lynching me, saw the case on (haven't read) and saw your thing, which made me come to the logical assumption that people want to lynch me? How did you know there was a case on you ? Because I scrolled down the page i was on (which i do) before I read it, and saw there was a case on me. So in these posts: On June 09 2016 02:03 Shapelog wrote:On June 08 2016 12:05 wherebugsgo wrote: hey VE, talk to me.
What do you think of ShapeLog? (I'm gonna purposely capitalize the Log from now on) Did you even read the fucking games? Or did I waste my time? On June 09 2016 02:09 Shapelog wrote:On June 08 2016 13:41 Tumblewood wrote:On June 08 2016 11:09 Shapelog wrote:On June 08 2016 11:05 Tumblewood wrote:On June 08 2016 10:34 Shapelog wrote:On June 08 2016 10:28 Tumblewood wrote: OH SHIT READS I FORGOT THOSE damdred shape scum palmar kelsier sl koshi town rest unknown I agree with palmar's reads so far oh hey lol damdred said the same thing as me. Only thing you meation about Damdred in your list. On June 08 2016 10:27 Tumblewood wrote: after the replacement post: - where bugs go the original story has me in tears [quote] nope can't even get a scum role PM when I steal someone else's - dammit the thing I spoilered didn't spoiler me Palmar is not even on your catch up post. You can go ahead and explain the reads on those 3 btw. The fact you got something other than Null for Palmar interests me copying that thing kelsier said, why do you care about my damdred scumread more than my you scumreadre: damdred readfeels re: palmar readI agree with him so clearly he's leading us to the d1 scum lynch also feels Was the bold the reason why I am scum? Did you actually read the response I gave? alright on damdred But how the fuck is Palmar leading anyone onto anything? even if you think Damdred is scum, Palmar hasn't been fucking here leading anyone. not the reason you're scum, you didn't ask for that reason. that's just another reason. the real reason is high volume low presence (aka you make up a quarter of the thread's post but aren't making an outsize contribution). of course palmar's not leading us yet but with the combined force of some possible effort later on and tl's hardon for him anything can happen. most of that was to say that I agree with his reads. I did ask for me, and fair i guess. Am working out content tho. I am predicting that Palmar hasn't posted, so tumble, do you actually know his reasoning behind the votes/reads of his? Because up to this post at least, he hasn't explain any of them, so it is kinda hard to agree with a read that looks like: "Damdred scum, shape mostly scum" I just refuse to believe that you, out of all people, who I know can play smart and usually do, is sheeping a person who hasn't even explained their reads, and agreeing with said none explained reads. you're angry because you read the case down the page ? Oh no, I been tumble hating since last night because of the Palmar thing. And i was angry at WBG because I linked them, and he has asked 4-5 different people (or different times, same people) for their reads on me, and never followed up on those games. I don't find these reasons for being angry tonewise at WBG and Tumble very believable. Even if you don't, I believe it, in here *points to your heart* Now, have you read my response to Wbg case? I actually thought it was good till the dmlord's filter post, because of what I said. It's good looking. It doesn't address why you're scum. "commiting to what you said you would do" is something experienced scum have no problem doing. It's actually more likely coming from town than scum if we're talking about an experienced player.
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idk but what you said is not how I play mafia and thats all I have to compair it too. Your saying mafia follows this rule or that rule but thats certainly not true and Im positive this guy did not get your rule book. New players do random fucking things but the way you read them is you see if they believe what they are saying. Thats a hard thing to fake and personnaly I cant figure out from his two posts.
What I dont think a first time scum would tho is vote the person who called him scum for no reason. which seems to be what he did here. seems like a pretty ballsy thing to do
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