[M][N] H O L Y F * * * E mafia!!

On May 23 2016 01:59 Superbia wrote:
/in

Pre-game excuse. Work/gf has me busy most days. Don't expect ultra-activity. :p

On May 24 2016 13:27 sicklucker wrote:
oh and im mafia duh

On May 25 2016 02:16 Superbia wrote:
Kay I'm here.

HF/JAT. Explain how that point is relevant.

On May 25 2016 02:23 Superbia wrote:


I find it hard to believe that you are this short-sighted as town.

Why am I asking that question?

On May 25 2016 02:41 Superbia wrote:


The grand problem with HF's 'push' is that it assumes I am asking for LS's read because I think LS is town and I want to know his opinion on kush because I don't have a good read on him. It could not be more ass backwards.

I thought LS was sort of kinda-ish on the scummy side, and him calling two people town (both questionable reads imo) and questioning a third (kush) in the same post indicates to me that he was not reading kush town (someone whom I believe is likely town at this point) seemed to traverse him more in that direction, so I asked him for a hard read on kush (the read he gave was sort of meh). That being said, I have a decent meta-read on LS (I think), so I'm not drawing any conclusion of this yet. Just means he's starting off in the poor side of town (shitty suburbs).

Now this what I do all the time as town, and I have never (iirc) asked for a genuine opinion on someone to become more informed. The question is always to get to know more about the person questioned, rather than the subject. This is like standard 101 townplay, which I why I am very confused as to why a good 'town' player would jump on this with this utterly absurd and simplistic point of view.

Hence why I am skeptical of HF, as this is his second garbage push. And he's (supposed to be) a good player.

And even more skeptical of you, because you have been buddying up to HF early on, even though I don't think anyone should have a town read on HF. And you're a very anal town player.

On May 24 2016 18:15 Koshi wrote:
Oh wait I actually didn't read it properly. It was somewhat HF being meh and Damdred starting with the TMI thing that was completely not TMI I don't even understand where the TMI is.........

Nowhere does HF say he is the "first town". He just says he is first, and he claims town.

I was clearly first to claim first and claim town so .....

LS was completely right to say HF sux and failed and that Koshi is the supreme Overlord.

So what Damdred and HF are smoking is some pretty bad stuff.



yup. I will probably really just park my vote on who I think is the worst contributor for town this game. Even if I solo vote. But that was really bad and I don't see how it made LS mafia. And for 2 people to do this "pressure" thing is just pretty w.e. Can't you do better stuff? Or are you mafia?

On May 24 2016 18:27 Holyflare wrote:


Hey Koshi you say you didn't read but then at the start of the game when Tumble said he didn't like the ls push and it looked like pressure instead, you posted this gif.

Now you're saying that you didn't read properly and the stuff you didn't like and was obviously fake pressure turned out to be stuff you didn't like and fake pressure?

Je ne comprends pas.

Have you in fact struggled to find things to write about and are mafia?

On May 25 2016 00:19 Superbia wrote:


Weak

On May 25 2016 03:16 Superbia wrote:
That's some 101 buddying.

On May 25 2016 03:45 Superbia wrote:


LS' answer did not progress my read on him that much. In a vacuum he may look scummy because his reasoning is kinda shit (imo), but LS thought process has always been kinda alien to me. I do not feel like LS' opinion/reasoning on kush makes him mafia.

That being said, I believe I may have a mafia-meta-tell on LS and he has displayed it this game. I'm not solid on it being an actual mafia tell yet though. I'm looking for something more.

On May 25 2016 03:46 Superbia wrote:


Why?

On May 25 2016 03:51 Superbia wrote:


If you're town, and you find yourself agreeing to someone else's posts. Does not not make that person likely to have a town mindset as well, and thereby likely town?

Why are you not reading him town?

It feels like you're backing out because I'm calling you out.

On May 25 2016 03:58 Superbia wrote:


Am I wrong? Having a similar mindset is one of the strongest town tells if applied well.

On May 25 2016 04:12 Superbia wrote:


Ok, so I see where we disagree here, and I'm talking about a different kind of "agreement", on a more subconscious level. Where your line of thought lines up with the other. That being said:

I know you as a (town-)player that's non-positive (for lack of better word, someone who is not positive) and gives no credit or props or whatever. You don't pander to people as town. This is why I knew you were the last mafia in the last game you played (I skim-obsed it a bit, though I get no credit because I didn't tell anyone lolol). The fact that you call something a "good post" as town already raises my eye-brow. To add to that the fact that you're not even reading the poster town is really fucking weird, and rings my alarm bells.

Can others give some input on this?

On May 25 2016 04:15 justanothertownie wrote:

I find it extremely hard to believe that anyone who ever saw me play town would genuinely think this.

On May 25 2016 04:19 Superbia wrote:


Lolll what? Not in the games I was in.

On May 25 2016 04:25 Superbia wrote:


I think I have a pretty decent grasp on how you play town though, imo. Maybe I'm not wording it correctly, or we see things (i.e. you) differently, but I'm pretty sure I know the difference between your town and mafia play.

That being said, I haven't reached a conclusion yet (ironic). Probably a mix between being tired and people I expected to show up not showing up. Which also probably both lead to having a small town circle.

On May 25 2016 05:33 Superbia wrote:


You actually thought that was scummy? That was not an information-prod?

On May 25 2016 05:36 Superbia wrote:


How is it scum indicative?

On May 25 2016 05:46 Superbia wrote:
This is genuinely frustrating because I don't think you can both be mafia.

Am I losing my mind here? Why the fuck is no one agreeing with me.

On May 25 2016 05:47 LightningStrike wrote:
You refering to Superbia in this post right JAT? If so what was his meta scumtells? I only played vs his scum/antitown twice but that was it.

On May 25 2016 05:51 Superbia wrote:


I was 3rd p not mafia.

On May 25 2016 05:58 Superbia wrote:


And didn't try because it was my 4th mafia game in a row or something? Ya.

On May 25 2016 06:13 Holyflare wrote:
Ritoky posted the exact same thing Superbia, guess all three of us must be mafia together. Game over guys.

On May 25 2016 02:17 Superbia wrote:
Damdred also feels scummy, but one at a time.

On May 25 2016 20:05 Superbia wrote:


He's on the sidelines. Rereading d1 now and my feeling regarding damdred hasn't changed.

On May 25 2016 04:19 Superbia wrote:


Lolll what? Not in the games I was in.

On May 25 2016 20:13 Superbia wrote:


A direction.

On May 25 2016 20:18 justanothertownie wrote:

You were in the werewolf game?
Irrelevant anyways since I was mafia there.

There is also fantasy football mini 2, imperial, the JAT game and possibly more that I do not remember right now.

On May 25 2016 20:16 Superbia wrote:
This shit is actually making me not want to play this game. Can people actually bother look at both JAT and HF's alignment?

On May 25 2016 20:23 Superbia wrote:


Please note the date on all of those games. I recall you from vanilla werewolf and storm the most. Rest idc.

On May 25 2016 20:31 Superbia wrote:


No. I was not interested in Imperial. Storm I was on mafia day 1, even though I was 3rd p. That game was actually pretty close to my town meta.

Why are your putting words in my mouth?

On May 25 2016 20:33 Superbia wrote:
I hope to god one between palmar and marv is town and wakes up before EoD.

On May 25 2016 20:31 Superbia wrote:


No. I was not interested in Imperial. Storm I was on mafia day 1, even though I was 3rd p. That game was actually pretty close to my town meta.

Why are your putting words in my mouth?

On May 25 2016 04:25 Superbia wrote:


I think I have a pretty decent grasp on how you play town though, imo. Maybe I'm not wording it correctly, or we see things (i.e. you) differently, but I'm pretty sure I know the difference between your town and mafia play.

That being said, I haven't reached a conclusion yet (ironic). Probably a mix between being tired and people I expected to show up not showing up. Which also probably both lead to having a small town circle.

On May 26 2016 04:10 Superbia wrote:
I am town. Confidence (arrogance) is part of my personality and NAI.

Palmar and Marv are both beautiful. Town? Palmar? Yes (probably). Marv? Maybe.

##Unvote
##Vote: Holyflare

On May 26 2016 04:02 Rels wrote:

kush did you do this ?

On May 26 2016 04:18 Superbia wrote:
Rit what do you think of HF?

On May 26 2016 19:20 Superbia wrote:
You're getting lynched before me Jat :D

On May 27 2016 03:09 marvellosity wrote:

i should probably read it at some point

On May 27 2016 03:38 Superbia wrote:


Mafia. This is such a lie.

Look at the interactions between HF and JAT.

On May 27 2016 03:43 Superbia wrote:


The bolded part. I'm too tired to over it now but it's just not true. We had a (very annoying) argument about whether I knew your meta, and you're presenting your opinion on matter here as fact.

Also your interactions with HF is mafia. Especially the part where you call him null after I force you to give him a read.

On May 27 2016 15:26 Superbia wrote:
And then Damdred has done essentially nothing. He has been super waffley on me all game (I think?) which may be related to reading me scum when it's possible to push me but I'm too lazy to actually check.

On May 30 2016 14:01 Tumblewood wrote:

Superbia did 5 things that should all make him scum... "He's very likely scum." How much do you need? Are you afraid of being called out for TMI or something? You repeat the entire case that's been beaten to death about Superbia, which logically makes him total scum, but that final statement is so weak. Blech.

On May 30 2016 23:52 Superbia wrote:
You may call me mafia but don't call me dumb

On May 30 2016 23:57 Superbia wrote:


I think correctly calling out HF when no one else did was pretty smart

On June 01 2016 00:15 Superbia wrote:
Rels -> vivax. If game not over its prob one of the checks

On June 01 2016 03:07 Superbia wrote:


Palmar and SL are prob both town.

On June 03 2016 16:02 Superbia wrote:
JAT needed to die bc his death increased my odds of survival the most btw.

On June 03 2016 16:02 Superbia wrote:
JAT needed to die bc his death increased my odds of survival the most btw.