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On June 16 2016 23:54 Superbia wrote:
TT can you go over your filter and hard defend yourself? Like quote posts from your own filter that show you can't be mafia in your opinion.
I'm already too filtered out to dig through my own as well.
I tried to start shennigans onto BtDt D1 because the Quick lynch didn't feel right, but did that too late to have real impact. You could read into that either way I bet.
D2 I don't recall putting much pressure on either Skynx or BtDt and went along with the Kush wagon. EoD I was super verbal about not wanting to lynch Emp and pushed Kush over him. This was def a mafia sided day from me.
D3 felt like a wash kus it was pretty obv right after Moosy's claim that BtDt should be the lynch, Moosy's claim looked good and his filter backed the claim to the point where it was clear he was the cop. I think I was the only person to give reasons for why Moosy's claim looked legit (without involving setuo mechanics).
D4 I didn't do much, tried to get some activity and involvement from Scott and Skynx but ended up joining the Emp wagon by midday. I'm actually not sure what exactly changed my thinking about Emp. I missed the first part of the day kus I was out all weekend then missed EoD due to storms knocking out my power. So while my absence in some ways helped get Emp lynched it was stuff beyond my control so I'm not sure that can be AI.
As far as I remember that has pretty much been my involvement this game.
Probably my flip on Emp combined with D1 shennanies on BtDt are the things that most point to me being town. If I was gunna bus my last teammate I would probably do it in a way that actually earned me some towncred. Still... plenty of room for tinfoil I think.
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I think I'm giving up on Supers filter for now, so moving on.
Generally Skynx's filter is just blah.
This post is just shitty no matter how you look at it
On June 04 2016 08:47 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2016 08:45 Superbia wrote:On June 04 2016 08:44 Skynx wrote:
So, Incognito guide tells me town likes clarity and mafia likes contentless posts.
Jealous sounds towny to me. QT also keep things clean.
Super n moosy are kinda chatting shit so I assume we can read more as game progresses.
Super is most scummy so far. Do you think quicky (QT) is town? He doesn't sound scummy (yet)
Also interesting how Skynx made a big case on Quick D1 but since then hasn't done anything similar.
This post showed that Skynx was lurking around EoD1, poped up with this as soon as I brought up shennanigans onto BtDt or Skynx.
On June 06 2016 07:57 Skynx wrote:
How is no one mentioning blackcoffee?
In This reads post Skynx lists BtDt as "null- can't really read him" but then he lists BtDt as someone he doesn't want to lynch because they are not a "big target"
On June 09 2016 04:45 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2016 04:45 Skynx wrote:On June 09 2016 04:42 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 09 2016 04:38 Skynx wrote:
I'm not too happy switching to Scott he's super afk yeah but I really think we need to kill a big target today. Scott can be left for later on. Define "big target" please Not you, Scott or blk. Or btdt
Which also remines me of this post
On June 05 2016 22:57 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2016 22:31 Superbia wrote:
Skynx can you give me some updates regarding your thoughts atm? Tumble, emperor, you are townies For thoughts on QT read #604 Not much of read on most others but I don't feel like lynching kush+bddt for some time These are all just feels + I'm suspicious of one specific person but I'll keep that to myself for now.
This actually looks like a good basis for an association. Skynx first states that he doesn't want to lynch BtDt for some time, then posts a null read on him, and goes right back to saying he doesn't want to lynch him. Nowhere is there actual reasoning on BtDt just this back and forth.
Looking at Skynx's reactions to D3. This is pretty lackluster in that Skynx is not giving his own thoughts just accepting the thinking done by others.
On June 10 2016 20:36 Skynx wrote:Well, I'm convinced by this and this that btdt is fakecalaiming out of pressure.
but, his next few posts shows he's not really the convinced.
On June 10 2016 23:19 Skynx wrote:I'm not trying to stir shit up or anything but Show nested quote +On June 09 2016 08:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 09 2016 06:10 beentheredonethat wrote:
Hello guys. I am finally here, logged in on a friend's computer. I could not play thus far and have not caught up to the thread. Based on my reads from last day and having seen the kills, I strongly suggest to lynch into one of (oh, the irony) low volume player. The last 48 hours have produced very little discussion and I feel like lynching afk people is a good thing.
I will place my vote on thekushmountains for that purpose. Please note that my real life issues will probably continue for the next 24 hours, so do not expect great activity from my side. Sorry, again. Good night everyone.
##vote nnn_thekushmountians This guy is town too no matter what. His check on btdt is kinda out of nowhere imo cuz he spent entire d2 pressuring me and emp. If this is a situation where Moosy just fires shots on town btdt, he panics and screws up cc and Moosy defends his claim by just bringing up his Jealous tr on d2 we are so so fucked Show nested quote +On June 10 2016 08:50 Tictock wrote:On June 10 2016 08:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
alright guys i'm claiming cop and i was wrong.
beentheredonethat just flipped red from my check.
##Vote: beentheredonethat What were your other checks? And why did you check BtDt and not Emp or Skynx? Show nested quote +On June 10 2016 08:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:
#moneychecks
#2pro
#bestblueever
#hashtag
:3 I mean only reason Moosy is not drawing suspicion is because btdt screwed up.
On June 10 2016 23:19 Skynx wrote:
Please please someone claim cop...
On June 10 2016 23:47 Skynx wrote:
Anyway, lets say we lynch btdt today, Jealous and Super I'm never lynching D4. Moosy's alignment will be revealed after today aswell so thats 3 out of the way.
On June 10 2016 23:53 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2016 23:49 Superbia wrote:
If we ever lynch town we lose. Unless scum KP gets stopped. I know, I'm trying to make stuff happen for D4 assuming we correctly scum lynch btdt today and Moosy is cop for real.
These posts are kinda interesting, this was his conclusion after filtering Emp.
On June 14 2016 23:48 Skynx wrote:
So he has this very laid back style for which most people gave town credit very early on and he's happy about it. Once pressure builds up he now has a very different style.
I'm liking the fact that he pushes his questions over and over until he gets a reply, I'd think scum would just leave stuff hanging but this might be just very carefull play to not leave any traces.
So he gets heavy accusations D2 (mostly out of his Jeal/QT/Tumble trio reads) and he's very calm about it. He doesn't really defend himself in any way and votes kush to save himself, also pointing out that the case on me is now kinda forgotten. As he abandons his Scott vote, his case becomes less powerfull.
So today, he's forced into this situation where he has now no town credit because he had no previous btdt reads. He has to vote for others as previous occasions to save himself but there is still no coherent case on anybody or a solid defence on himself.
Instinctively I don't think he can be scumteam with Scott because their beef goes long way. He defended TT against some people earlier on. He is scumreading me for a long time now but again no case.
All that being said, if he is scum, he'd surely bring up some solid argument against me by now as many people are assigning me and him as scum team for a while now.
Final thoughts: He absolutely has to defend himself right now. I don't feel he's town anymore but he is less scum than Scott & TT imo. I don't want to vote for him yet, but I will have to shennanie in case of no defence. If he flips scum, TT is final mafia and we win.
On June 14 2016 23:53 Skynx wrote:
Anyway, I'll be checking on phone. There has to be reasonable shennanies tonight. Holding my vote on Scott for now, he's still most scummy to me.
The conclusion "I don't think he's town anymore, but is less scum than Scott & TT" is kinda strange especially when a lot of his posts in pg 5 of his filter seem to be making associative cases between Scott and myself.
This was when Skynx voted Emp,
On June 15 2016 05:10 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2016 04:12 Jealous wrote:On June 15 2016 04:04 Skynx wrote:On June 15 2016 02:25 Jealous wrote:On June 15 2016 02:15 Superbia wrote:
The reason I feel EC is town is because essentially all possible scum on the kush train got their vote in early&safe with a non-reason. He was the easier push so mafia probably didn't give a shit about the lynch either way. One day two, the votes were tied 4/3 Kush/EC after I voted. Next to vote was Scott, who made it 4/4. That is when EC switched to kush to make it 5/4, which potentially means nothing because it could be him saving his hide, or it could mean everything if he is scum and both remaining scum had already voted for kush so scum had no more votes to swing on. At that time, kush still hadn't switched his vote to EC to make it 5/5 and blkcoffee was still a variable that could have presented itself. That's why I strongly believe that between EC/Skynx/TT we will find our last two scum, but out of those 3 the most evident are EC/Skynx. Skynx has provided a lot of content these past few pages, which is nice, but while reading it almost felt like he was reaching for a dreamworld of some sort, like building a card castle to the moon. Also, it was relatively uncharacteristic of his prior posting habits. It's nice to see him make a late push like this and I will relook it before I leave for class. Lol which part makes you feel that? Anyway I tried to stay consistent but I'm busy during the day. Why is Scott not mafia? I feel that way partially because you're painting TT as scum and I don't think he is. I follow your logic on TT's posting habits but I don't agree with it. You seem to agree with an EC/TT team, so vote EC. You could just say you disagree with my opinion and which part of it rather than me reaching a dreamworld. I am voting now he's here.
from the followup posts though it is clear that he would preffer to lynch Scott or Myself still. So it seems like Skynx only voted Emp out of pressure and its interesting he never shifted his vote after this point.
After the flip
On June 15 2016 08:14 Skynx wrote:
TT is confirmed for me. So much for tonight.
Yet... today nothing.
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Skynx what happened to me being confirmed to you?
You haven't done jack all yet today when it seems like you should have been voting and pressuring me right off based on the fact you've been scum reading me all game and all those "If Emp flips scum TT is the last scum" and that last "TT is confirmed for me" post.
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Idk I should look at Scott's filter here too, but I think I'm ready to put a vote on Skynx.
The point Jealous made about Super's breakdown of BtDt's claim and the stuff I found in his filter regarding Emp makes me think I was letting some paranoia get to me. Though in the last cycle Super and Emp were rather buddy buddy and both pushing hard against the Emp lynch.
I guess I did the same thing D2 though so I shouldn't judge too much.
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What happened to your fear read on me scott?
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Ehh, actually looking at your filter I think I can see.
Your post with the EoD counts reminds me I should look at how D2 played out again. Seems like mafia had to all be piled onto Kush that day.
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It's a good thing we picked it up for the final day, huh guys?
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Noting a bunch of read posts from Emp and BtDt.
+ Show Spoiler [Emperor's] +On June 06 2016 03:03 emperorchampion wrote:
I think that Skynx could be scum, not really sure on the rest since I haven't looked too much into it due to not having too much time atm. Superbia / Tictock seem town.
Fecalfeast / scott not really sure. Seems like a mafia move to push an afk tho, so I don't know what it accomplishes. I think my vote has to go into tumble / QT / Jealous to figure this out. On June 06 2016 20:58 emperorchampion wrote:
Half-Life 3 confirmed tier (Release date: soon (tm))
- Tumble
- Moosy
- fecal
- ticktock
Null
- btdt
- scott
- blkcoffee
Cesar's Army
- kush
- super
- skynx
My feelings at the moment, will post more when at office.
On June 08 2016 00:40 emperorchampion wrote:Merci!  crazy to see you flip this way! I think super's filter is "empty" as well (obv not in terms of pages), I think he's pretty sketchy. Given who I think is town, it's left down to him as mafia. One issue is that there are a number of wildcards, aka blkcoffee and scott who I have no idea what they could be due to the fact that they haven't really posted anything. So for now super fill this slot. Skynx I would have to look more thoroughly through his filter for specific examples, but I never got the sense that his posts were genuine. On June 12 2016 02:21 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2016 18:20 Superbia wrote:
Jesus christ read my posts people.
There is always 1 vigi OR cop (never 1 cop AND 1 vigi or 2 cops or w/e).
There is always 1 doc OR vet (never 1 doc AND 1 vet or 2 docs or w/e). Yes, but the assumption of vig is based on framer, which is only claimed by btdt. However, given that there haven't been any counter claims on doc or vet, it seems likely that there is actually a framer, and a therefore that Jealous is indeed the vet. Anyhooo, it's pretty clear that btdt is mafia. My earlier suspicion for scott is slightly cleared by moosy's innocence, but I'm not sure if I'm fully satisfied with the only basis for his read on TT being that it's similar to a previous game. My feelings for Skynx remain similar as before, I just don't get a genuine feeling for him. It's sad that last day came down to me vs kush, and skynx was completely forgotten. Soo yeah, I'll probably be around a bit today if there's anything else. Rest of day + night will just be reading through filters I imagine. On June 13 2016 08:20 emperorchampion wrote:
Sooo it doesn't look like anyone else is here atm, I think I'm out after this for the night
Here's my scum power ranking:
-Skynx
-Scott
-Tictock
Half-Life 3 Confirmed List:
-Jealsus
-Super
I stopped grabbing all the posts near the end of Emp's filter kus his is kinda long. Basically he went into his final day with a fairly strong scumread on Skynx, but his first vote was once again on Scott (who he pushed quite a bit this game actually, I didn't bother grabbing all those posts here either but they are there).
+ Show Spoiler [BtDt's] +On June 06 2016 18:52 beentheredonethat wrote:
Given that Fecalfeast tried to initiate shenanigans makes me townread him. Since QT flipped town, there was absolutely no need for scum to try shenanigans. There were no other wagon on its way, so the mislynch must have been safe.
It is interesting to note that I ended up with two votes, due to the attempted shenanigans. I'm wondering why, I don't think I appear too scummy and I think I should definitely be part of any town circle that there is. I am easily readable, I try to establish my thought processes, and I kept my vote on MoosyDoosy: noone confirmed the meta/"is he able to emulate his town meta" question yet (besides himself). Also, his vote made the difference: shenanigans could've worked if he wouldn't have been the 5th guy to vote QT.
As a further note, Tumblewood still feels very townie to me. So I'll form my own town circle containing Superbia, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jealous and myself (I have to review Superbia though, I don't remember much from the end of D1 that I really liked. Still town pile, though). Following that pattern, we could easily have all three scum players on QuickTwist. Removing Jealous as my town read, it comes down to:
Skynx, emperorchampion, scott31337, MoosyDoosy
Of those four players, scott had two votes cast on him, temporarily three due to the QT vote. That might have triggered MoosyDoosy to finalize the wagon of QT. What do you think about scott and MoosyDoosy, guys? I feel like I might have found a connection here. While it's not enough for a lynch IMHO, it should be enough to justify a potential power role action. One should examine those guys at night very closely.
I think it's too early to completely go by process of elimination - but I strongly suggest to not lynch outside of those players as the chance of having one or more scummers among those four bolded lads is very high.
My nulls (i.e. todos) are thekushmountains and Tictock.
There was a lot of pushing on Super towards the end of BtDt's filter as well.
Oh also some formatting got messed up in #1232 which I gave up trying to keep in Emp's section.
I think it's pretty clear looking through these guy's filters that Skynx is the last scum. He stays in the background of both their reads as either scum or null but is never the focus of any of their pushes. It's most obv in Emps since he has a larger filter, but there is minor evidence in BtDt's as well.
In contrast I found a decent bit of legit looking pressure on both Scott and Super in both their filters.
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On June 17 2016 14:53 Superbia wrote:Haha work has me busy. For me this day comes down to you and skynx. Ill be around in ~10hrs or so to question a bit. I'd prefer it if you could both (skynx and tt) be around at around that time for some inquisitional questions.
Uhg, weird time for me. No promises.
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On June 17 2016 15:31 Superbia wrote:
Also btdt's end of (his) game should just be taken as WIFOM (though it seemed he was genuinely trying).
Yea his posts about you an Moosy seemed to be geniune OMGUS based.
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On June 17 2016 15:39 Superbia wrote:
I think if you were genuinely lurking EoD4 (TT) then you might've switched to scott since I had the votes rallied up.
Prob not, my first though reading though that EoD was "Wow how hard is Super fighting this lynch"... Though yea idk if it woulda felt diff in the moment.
Though having just read over most of Emp's filter again he played really well. Hell I fought his lynch just as hard, if not harder, D2.
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On June 17 2016 16:55 Skynx wrote:
Tictock man why did you fake pressure Super, just to bait me?
It wasn't fake, but I usually (and especially in LyLo) will take a step back at the start of the day and re-evaluate stuff.
The point jealous made about the claim stuff was good, and when I went through the first half of Supers filter I found enough stuff to go along with that that I realized I was barking up the wrong tree.
After that everything just kept falling into place as I started to relook at stuff.
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Cool, guess my D1 reads were pretty good then. Sucks we still spent 2 days lynching town and then the modkill put things on the line.
Seemed like Town did a pretty good job of getting on the same page though, we had a pretty good town circle formed early on even if some doubts kept sneaking in.
Def well played game by everyone involved, though I wonder what happened with Kush (prob just ended up not having time for the game I assume). Emp and Jealous were both really impressive throughout and Skynx you did a good job making it to endgame. Blkcoffee also was amazingly easy for me to read despite only getting a few posts into the game (so you did your job well).
So props to all the new players, and GG everyone.
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On June 19 2016 06:14 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
weak scumteam.
Gets lynched D2 kus no effort given. Insults loosing team post game.
Quality Play.
On June 19 2016 06:30 QuickTwist wrote:
GG team. Glad I could play in this game even though I had pretty much no effect on it.
I actually hope you decide to play again, you were really active and seemed to be pretty interested in getting advice on how to improve in Obs.
Though there are plenty of players around here who will want to lynch you with the playstyle you have. Eventually people will learn to read you a little better and if you keep at it (especially taking advantage of coaching, obs, and shadowing if you would like) you'll find your own play improving.
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