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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 07 2016 17:17 GMT
#1221
You can always change your vote.
Minimal effort.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10286 Posts
June 07 2016 17:18 GMT
#1222
On June 08 2016 02:07 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 02:05 Jealous wrote:
On June 08 2016 01:50 Superbia wrote:
If you're town then very likely at least 1 mafia just piled onto your case on quicky. Who do you think that person is?

It's possible but I wouldn't say it's very likely. QT was in the lead for bans after Tictock voted for him and never left that position. At the time, the only person who was in contention with him was Scott. Even if three people switched their vote last second for kush, for example, QT would still be lynched even if the original 3 people who voted for QT. Everyone who piled on afterwards - is it really ensuring the lynch? How much insurance did they really think they needed? While statistically speaking is certainly possible that a mafia is on that list, it's hard for me to say who it may be.

I think we can remove Scott from suspicion (here, at least) because he was voting to keep himself in the game should people switch their votes onto him.

It would be more interesting if Skynx and Tictock saw my vehemence and used that as a springboard to start the bandwagon. Seeing as people seem inclined to vote Skynx, this is why I would rather see the flop after Day 2 before making any concrete arguments.


Scum tend to spread out their votes naturally. It is somewhat likely, it doesn't have to be. However, it's still a decent metric to have for analyzing the game.

I can see the logic behind that.

Looking back on the vote thread, MoosyDoosy voted QT and unvoted @ 19:13/19:17 respectively (June 3rd) but I think we can attribute that to his trolly nature.

I vote 22:15 CDT.

Skynx votes 07:15 CDT, June 4th.

Tictock is the immediate next vote at 12:33 CDT, putting QT at first.

EC votes 14:11 CDT, June 5th.

Scott votes 16:05 CDT.

EC revotes to make sure formatting is correct 16:37 CDT.

MoosyDoosy revotes 17:34 CDT.

Tictock switches vote to BTDT at 18:56 CDT.

How much can we read into QT's last post stating that Tictock was both the person who pushed QT into the forefront and then abandoned ship?

"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 07 2016 17:20 GMT
#1223
TT's "so many people are prob lurking =/" at 5m to eod was scummy. Again, need to have some 1on1 time w/ him. He's a good town player.
Minimal effort.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 07 2016 17:25 GMT
#1224
On June 08 2016 02:17 Superbia wrote:
You can always change your vote.

Bah fuck it you're right. It may summon people out of afk aswell maybe.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 07 2016 17:25 GMT
#1225
neo FF is also harder to read
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 07 2016 17:26 GMT
#1226
On June 08 2016 02:25 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 02:17 Superbia wrote:
You can always change your vote.

Bah fuck it you're right. It may summon people out of afk aswell maybe.


Exactly.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 07 2016 17:27 GMT
#1227
Gonna afk a bit. May lurk every now and then.
Minimal effort.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 07 2016 17:57 GMT
#1228
So tumble is dead.

Super looks more interested in the game, and so does moosy.

Tictock who are your three scum right now?

I've skimmed the thread, at a worksite right now but I shall return.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 07 2016 18:01 GMT
#1229
On June 08 2016 02:16 Superbia wrote:
Scott had some weird PM shit that was townie but needs to start doing stuff.

The PM shit was not towny please stop saying that posting before you get a role pm is towny
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 07 2016 18:04 GMT
#1230
On June 08 2016 02:20 Superbia wrote:
TT's "so many people are prob lurking =/" at 5m to eod was scummy. Again, need to have some 1on1 time w/ him. He's a good town player.


Whats scummy about it?

Skynx poped up as soon as Tumble and I suggested shennanies onto him and just to suggest people talk about the dude who was obv afk and now getting replaced. Thought there was probably more lurking.
I can take that responsibility.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 07 2016 18:06 GMT
#1231
Some thoughts on scum teams:
-super, skynx, kush --> out unless crazy bus on kush
-TT, Fecal, scott --> shenanananaigan duo + scott + Show Spoiler +
On June 06 2016 07:17 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2016 07:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
A lot of quiet people this close to deadline has me worried for this wagon


Hmmmmmm

Or is that scums plan? wifomwifomwifom



On June 07 2016 07:34 scott31337 wrote:
Allright, I got some time to look over things -

1) Emperorchampion - this guy seems like newb town with some of his responses -
2) Skynx -He made a "case" on Quicktwist, which I am unsure new mafia would do - most are scared to stick out lilke that - but then also his last post is "Strategic lurking" so.... Not a bad fan at the moment.
5) blkcoffee - null not enough info - one page of filter
6) Jealous - Aggressive, shares his info and thoughts - townlean

Venturing Vets

1) beentheredonethat - He shows his thoughts and posts, not all one-liners, townlean
2) Tumblewood - My gut instinct says hes town, i've read multiple games of his and this shows more of a town agenda - wants me dead though
3) MooooooosyDooooosy - He trolls a lot with either alignment, more as town though - and it's been a lot of trolling -
4) nnn_thekushmountians - he points out my posts, but I don't see a whole lot else from the guy.
5) Superbia - looks to be trying to figure out the game - townlean for now
6) FecalFeast -town chilled FF
7)Ticktock - This guy has quite a lot of opposite reads than I do, which makes me wonder - him and me in that milo game will always be on my mind

I think I have too many "townies" -

I'd have to go with scumteam of TT, Moosy, and Blkcoffee for now with maybe a bit of Tumble - I think Tumble should be the one I completely re-read.


I think these almost fit tooo well. It seems like he has spent a lot of time reading all filters, but has barely posted? Plus I find his scum read on TT pretty weak.

- Moosy, kush, jealous + Show Spoiler +

I think that moosy is likely town. However, reassessing as scumteam makes these posts very interesting (in no particular order):

+ Show Spoiler +

On June 08 2016 00:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 00:22 emperorchampion wrote:
I just felt like a vote for QT got the same information as a vote for jealous. For me, I became most interested in finding out if QT/Tumble were a maf team.

So what's your read on Jealous now?

On June 07 2016 23:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:32 Superbia wrote:
I'll read skynx' post later. Moosy pls explain why jealous is so town for you beyond any doubt that you're so willing to hard defend him like this.

He's not town beyond doubt. The biggest problem here is that you never showed you had a scum read on Jealous in the first place. Why the sudden flip?

On June 08 2016 00:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:56 Superbia wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:32 Superbia wrote:
I'll read skynx' post later. Moosy pls explain why jealous is so town for you beyond any doubt that you're so willing to hard defend him like this.

He's not town beyond doubt. The biggest problem here is that you never showed you had a scum read on Jealous in the first place. Why the sudden flip?


That does not facilitate such a response. From what I recall, you have taken every opportunity to call him town throughout the game. Why?

I absolutely did not take every opportunity. Did you read the game? Mayhaps you'd like to take a look through my filter.

What I did say is that both QT and Jealous were acting like idiots but out of the two, QT would have to be the Mafia. Looking at Jealous's behavior and his newbie slip at the start of D2, it looks like it's safe to assume he's town and put away the Jealous/kush tinfoil team.

Just because I have a read on someone now doesn't mean I had it on them the whole game. Now would you care to actually read the game?

On June 08 2016 00:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:57 Superbia wrote:
I can explain why I think jealous may be scum but tbh you can prob figure it out from my filter

Yes, Jealous can be scum in multiple tinfoil situations and you can be unproductive by squabbling about it. Or you can actually focus on finding real scum than thinking of tinfoil situations.

On June 08 2016 00:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:
And no, your filter doesn't really show any sign of reading Jealous as scum. Instead, it seems more like you tacitly accept him as town than scum. So again. Why the sudden flip?


- I think that kush kind of fits in here, but he could be replaceable by most i think.


aaaaaaand I have to actually do some work for now...
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 07 2016 18:10 GMT
#1232
Scott, tick and fecal posting in a row is some sp00ky shit haha
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 07 2016 18:12 GMT
#1233
On June 08 2016 03:10 emperorchampion wrote:
Scott, tick and fecal posting in a row is some sp00ky shit haha

We came up with it in the scum QT to freak you out
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 07 2016 18:16 GMT
#1234
On June 08 2016 03:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 03:10 emperorchampion wrote:
Scott, tick and fecal posting in a row is some sp00ky shit haha

We came up with it in the scum QT to freak you out


Damn I want this to be true!
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 07 2016 18:18 GMT
#1235
On June 08 2016 02:25 Superbia wrote:
neo FF is also harder to read

What is neo about me?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 07 2016 18:19 GMT
#1236
Right now I'm still tempted to vote for Skynx but his list post wasn't terrible.

Of the people voting QT I thought Skynx, Emp, and to a lesser extent Moosy were the weakest votes on him. Skynx stood out to me because he initially read QT as town but then got pressured a little for that read and ended up swapping his read and made that case on QT. Case felt somewhat contrived (especially when it wasn't his initial thinking on QT and idk why you case someone like that when other people were clearly of similar opinions).

BtDt has made a couple of big posts but he focused pretty hard on Moosy without trying to convince anyone of his read or anything and I think he's on Scott now too which just seems like picking out easy/low impact targets to me.

Emp and Kush both have some townie posts but the focus feels a little off. With Kush I get this sense of his town game but much more reserved. Like he's saying what he thinks, but not doing so in a way that pushes the game forward.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 07 2016 18:23 GMT
#1237
On June 08 2016 03:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Some thoughts on scum teams:
-super, skynx, kush --> out unless crazy bus on kush
-TT, Fecal, scott --> shenanananaigan duo + scott + Show Spoiler +
On June 06 2016 07:17 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2016 07:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
A lot of quiet people this close to deadline has me worried for this wagon


Hmmmmmm

Or is that scums plan? wifomwifomwifom



On June 07 2016 07:34 scott31337 wrote:
Allright, I got some time to look over things -

1) Emperorchampion - this guy seems like newb town with some of his responses -
2) Skynx -He made a "case" on Quicktwist, which I am unsure new mafia would do - most are scared to stick out lilke that - but then also his last post is "Strategic lurking" so.... Not a bad fan at the moment.
5) blkcoffee - null not enough info - one page of filter
6) Jealous - Aggressive, shares his info and thoughts - townlean

Venturing Vets

1) beentheredonethat - He shows his thoughts and posts, not all one-liners, townlean
2) Tumblewood - My gut instinct says hes town, i've read multiple games of his and this shows more of a town agenda - wants me dead though
3) MooooooosyDooooosy - He trolls a lot with either alignment, more as town though - and it's been a lot of trolling -
4) nnn_thekushmountians - he points out my posts, but I don't see a whole lot else from the guy.
5) Superbia - looks to be trying to figure out the game - townlean for now
6) FecalFeast -town chilled FF
7)Ticktock - This guy has quite a lot of opposite reads than I do, which makes me wonder - him and me in that milo game will always be on my mind

I think I have too many "townies" -

I'd have to go with scumteam of TT, Moosy, and Blkcoffee for now with maybe a bit of Tumble - I think Tumble should be the one I completely re-read.


I think these almost fit tooo well. It seems like he has spent a lot of time reading all filters, but has barely posted? Plus I find his scum read on TT pretty weak.

- Moosy, kush, jealous + Show Spoiler +

I think that moosy is likely town. However, reassessing as scumteam makes these posts very interesting (in no particular order):

+ Show Spoiler +

On June 08 2016 00:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 00:22 emperorchampion wrote:
I just felt like a vote for QT got the same information as a vote for jealous. For me, I became most interested in finding out if QT/Tumble were a maf team.

So what's your read on Jealous now?

On June 07 2016 23:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:32 Superbia wrote:
I'll read skynx' post later. Moosy pls explain why jealous is so town for you beyond any doubt that you're so willing to hard defend him like this.

He's not town beyond doubt. The biggest problem here is that you never showed you had a scum read on Jealous in the first place. Why the sudden flip?

On June 08 2016 00:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:56 Superbia wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On June 07 2016 23:32 Superbia wrote:
I'll read skynx' post later. Moosy pls explain why jealous is so town for you beyond any doubt that you're so willing to hard defend him like this.

He's not town beyond doubt. The biggest problem here is that you never showed you had a scum read on Jealous in the first place. Why the sudden flip?


That does not facilitate such a response. From what I recall, you have taken every opportunity to call him town throughout the game. Why?

I absolutely did not take every opportunity. Did you read the game? Mayhaps you'd like to take a look through my filter.

What I did say is that both QT and Jealous were acting like idiots but out of the two, QT would have to be the Mafia. Looking at Jealous's behavior and his newbie slip at the start of D2, it looks like it's safe to assume he's town and put away the Jealous/kush tinfoil team.

Just because I have a read on someone now doesn't mean I had it on them the whole game. Now would you care to actually read the game?

On June 08 2016 00:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 23:57 Superbia wrote:
I can explain why I think jealous may be scum but tbh you can prob figure it out from my filter

Yes, Jealous can be scum in multiple tinfoil situations and you can be unproductive by squabbling about it. Or you can actually focus on finding real scum than thinking of tinfoil situations.

On June 08 2016 00:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:
And no, your filter doesn't really show any sign of reading Jealous as scum. Instead, it seems more like you tacitly accept him as town than scum. So again. Why the sudden flip?


- I think that kush kind of fits in here, but he could be replaceable by most i think.


aaaaaaand I have to actually do some work for now...


Where are these teams coming from? This seems like you drew names out of a hat then went to think about if they made sense as a team.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 07 2016 18:34 GMT
#1238
Humm... I'm not sure what Kush is doing this game actually. He's insta voting Skynx today and I think this was his only post about Skynx.

On June 06 2016 13:05 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Sorry ff isn't scummy.
Hmmm this dude skanks tho...
Seems really unatural how hedges his read at the end when he acted so sure for the rest of the post.

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 04 2016 20:53 Skynx wrote:
Good morning people! Not having much else to do I actually went through 3 pages of solid spam. I then also went to read QT filter:
1: Contentless town reads
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 09:45 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:41 Tumblewood wrote:
ah goddammit I'm going after the low-hanging fruit
I'll be back when kush or someone is in the thread so I can be productive


I think this is a townie response.

Including this one he made some town reads based on absolutely nothing, First 3 were kinda trying to get the game going but they don't benefit town as if you don't have some case on why someone is town why just claim them town, you're just promoting confusion.

2: Memes & one liners
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 04 2016 09:46 QuickTwist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 09:44 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:43 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:39 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:35 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:33 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:31 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:29 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:22 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:14 blkcoffee wrote:
[quote]

This seems rather too in-depth this early on. I think if quicktwist gave an explanation For the town read we could analyse it and see how it holds up.


[image loading]

Another dodgy response here. Leaning scum intensifies.


you're going to have to explain how that makes me scum without saying the word "vibes".

Instead of substantiating your claims you post image macros that effectively close the topic for further analysis and discussion, something that would be key for scum to do in order to protect themselves from further inspection.


yeah, and really really super obvious as well.

Knowing nothing about you or your play style and only judging from the content that you present, it's logical to use Ockham's razor and go with the most obvious explanation. You continue to dodge post after post, question after question, and only cast doubt upon the analysis of others by trying to debase them without any substance whatsoever.


You know what I think? I think you should hold off your judgement until you DO know my playstyle.

Or maybe you can answer some questions and show your play style through analysis and not through mindless macros and unsubstantiated claims.


[image loading]

This doesn't add anything to the conversation and he seems to like it as a cheap way of not elaborating things further. His filter page3 reeks of just memes and one liners. These are just useless spam.

3: Ignoring valid posts that are making sense
So tumble posted this about the spam
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 10:47 Tumblewood wrote:
hi kush
On June 04 2016 10:21 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
The single biggest indicator of alignment is consistent activity. That is why we need to kill a lurker day 1.

okay with plynches but not for that reason. in newbie games mafia is lynched almost never on d1 so I'd rather take my chances on someone who won't contribute than someone who might turn out to be a helpful townie

His response:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 11:00 QuickTwist wrote:
##Vote: Tumblewood

I shouldn't be getting this much town cred already should I?

As town, why would you wanna lynch someone is trying to make sense, if you're serious that is.

4: Diverting attention by linking old stuff
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 13:18 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:35 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:32 Superbia wrote:
Jealous which between myself and quicky is more suspicious?


What is the point to this question?


Sup, can you answer this question now?

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 13:23 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:48 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:45 Superbia wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:44 Skynx wrote:
So, Incognito guide tells me town likes clarity and mafia likes contentless posts.
Jealous sounds towny to me. QT also keep things clean.
Super n moosy are kinda chatting shit so I assume we can read more as game progresses.
Super is most scummy so far.


Do you think quicky (QT) is town?

50/50 like for reading and applying Incognito's guide / dislike for maybe (?) hiding behind Incognito's guide instead of speaking for yourself
also Incognito's guide is pretty old and now there are a lot of players that spam as both alignments


Link to guid?

These are where he understands he's not making a lot of sense so lets bring up old arguments and create some diversion. Super wasn't serious and you should've read the guide already, these are irrelevant to the discussion where people actually started to scumread him.

Please enlighten me if you think he has made 1 usefull/towny post. Even if you think he might be town, these constant flow of useless posts are last thing we need and lynching him would benefit town more than plynching an afk for now, i don't think he will make positive contributions later on.

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 12:18 QuickTwist wrote:
I will not be living tomorrow.



##Vote: QuickTwist



It's odd given that his "Shit list" at night was
On June 06 2016 12:50 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Shitlist
Ec
Tt
Tw
Ff


and he seems pretty there's scum between me and emp
On June 06 2016 13:07 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2016 13:01 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 06 2016 12:50 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Shitlist
Ec
Tt
Tw
Ff

wow that is shit
all of those people are town

Dude ibbet tt or ec is scum tho


So screw it, kush seems like a good vote.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 07 2016 18:48 GMT
#1239
And just to take things a step too far...

If kush is in fact mafia I'm kinda thinking of a team like Kush/Moosy/Jealous
I can take that responsibility.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 07 2016 18:57 GMT
#1240
On June 08 2016 03:48 Tictock wrote:
And just to take things a step too far...

If kush is in fact mafia I'm kinda thinking of a team like Kush/Moosy/Jealous


Jesus christ.
Minimal effort.
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