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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
April 14 2016 15:52 GMT
#6061
I am at college right now, so I do not have a lot of time to look at things. But i will look at things if i get time.

Again:
Scott, what do you think
Damdred same question.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
April 14 2016 18:57 GMT
#6062
On April 14 2016 07:31 Shapelog wrote:
Scott, what do you think about everything?


I was thinking about it last night - I'm still in Vegas, I should be driving home tonight.

so I've been in two LYLO'S as town - Firefly and Guardians. Guardians was my first one, Damdred was in that game as well. I've never been in a LYLO as mafia. I have a strong feeling I'm going to the victim for the third time.

+ Show Spoiler [Don't read] +
In the wise words of Palmar, this turns into - the puppet, the puppetmaster, and the victim. I got a Quickdraw PM in my replacement message


I've learned a lot from those two games as town. The first thing would be that even if you are town and know who the mafia is since they go after you - acting 100% that you know the puppetmaster is mafia looks mafia sided to the puppet, because they'll be like "Why are you so sure? it could be me too if you're town, right?" but from your own point of view, it's obvious. I don't want to make that mistake again.

The second thing would be is to just re-look over everything, including both filters from the others and re-read parts of the game and figure out intentions from days before - since this day is going to be a lot different.

+ Show Spoiler [Damdred's list] +
On April 09 2016 23:36 Damdred wrote:
Right now Ows look at this, why should I 100% know what to do? This game is incredibly hard

Ows- weak town feels, technically is the hammer on Tt putting him one over Tt. On the verge of death didn't care about being,lynched. I don't think,he's scum.

LS- been low impact, but does work when as scythe wouldn't. Dug through my filter to show how I was pushing Tt when people were starting to gain momentum.

Scott- claimed blue, slam bread crumbed the shot very well. It is a poor shot, small activity but cent be the mafia in a solo situation.

VA- super lackluster first 4 days didn't care. Suddenly cares after the tumble lynch hasn't done a lot since the Ritojy lynch. Kinda meh on him.

Koshi- mafia were on him and tumble. Sudden swing on Tt makes it somewhat unlikely with how suddenly it was and how many town was on Tt that koshi was the scum. Plus his activity and craziness and bm make him town.

Shaoe- early game was bad and missed a lot of what he was. Was super right after then and seems to be hyper focused on lynch bait ls. Its possible he was tmi, which is why I'm considering him.

Damdred- claimed blue, can't be a single scum. Can't be scum with Scott, mod message infers he's town. Etc etc



I'm a dayvig. Beyond Alakaslam's shot being townie, I'd have to be a rolecop and a dayvig in order to be mafia, which is basically impossible. The only other possibility is that the engineer had a role check night 1 and checked sicklucker.

I could re-write others words but best explained as-
On April 07 2016 06:38 Koshi wrote:
scott is never mafia btw. I forgot about the fact it was a silent shot on D1.

Imagine mafia shooting someone the first second of the game for lulz.


Scot is setup wise confirmed town.

HOLY SHIT WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE NOT THINKING OF SHIT LIKE THIS


And in your words -

Scott:
- Pretty much it for scott. Maybe, by some kind of crazy setup, Mafia had a factional day shot, and Slam, as a RC, did it to buy massive cred early on. Literally the only way that guy can be mafia.

I'll be back in a bit.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
April 14 2016 19:24 GMT
#6063
I'm re-reading those games for more clues and things I can work on.

"damdred
06-14-2015
05:52 PM ET (US)
Scott and oneg would of killed me and 've before now. Like it shows a complete lack of knowledge about us."

You're right
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 14 2016 20:55 GMT
#6064
Hey first time I've been on in a day or so.

Things went for the worst and well I'm sorry I didn't save koshi tbh.

Anyway my first thought is that shape as town shouldn't need to ask me or Scott where we stand. Yesterday he said I'm 100% confirmed because of mod message and amount of blues etc.

It seems like instead of reaching to find a reason to scum read us or one of us (by his past posts it should just be Scott here) he is waiting to see how the tide turns if we will turn on each other and he can just pick who he wants to lynch.

That's ny first thought.

As for Scott he is at least doing work so as of now I am not inclined to lynch him. Him digging through past games and his post with that quote really reminds me.

Also just the sheer number of blues is pretty believable.

As of now shape is my pick for scum and I'm voting him.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 14 2016 21:00 GMT
#6065
Also Scott's vote yesterday was called crap by Obi bit it was actually extremely towny.

VE and I were in a game together and we were in a somewhat similar situation as town where we had a few suspects and we were shenanigans onto nm I believe, onegu who was the other suspect went oh shit. I have to consolidate with these fuckers if I don't mafia can just slide over to the town and win the game.

Mafia doesn't have the need to switch there knowing there is only one,member Scott not knowing how many cared enough to consolidate. Which I think is an extremely towny mindset to have.

+5 town points.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 14 2016 21:05 GMT
#6066
Also I was just read in my filter God I hope shape log is mafia and I'm right he was so sideline and not doing anything d1. Promised activity and didn't give any until after I said holy hell what's shape doing.

He even agreed with me. Crazy, he also had that super crazy post how SL was an alien and it turns out he was. Lol
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 14 2016 21:24 GMT
#6067
On March 26 2016 03:11 Shapelog wrote:
Filter dive some peeps. Also ate some peeps. Big difference in the termonology of peeps thou. Actually that is pretty racist because yellow peeps... Peeps are racist to asain people. They are RASICT to the AZN
+ Show Spoiler +

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Why are you reading this, Read the results you Jihic!


JAT,
He seems to be aggressive, which i am guessing lines up with his meta nd what i saw from him in the obs qt in outlaw. He refused to give out reads, but given his overall tone and the way he goes though things, he is not someone i would lynch day 1. idk about necessary if i would call him town, but If i had to choose, i call him town.


Kurumi,
I am just going to bullet these, to lazy to do paragraph it.
Off things
  • Wanted to know what the Koshi list thing was, called it giving mafia a cheat cheat, never followed up on it.
  • That weird flip out. Something about GF (RL) and the atmosphere being shit to explain anger. I feel like for question from #1071 his behavior with the respond was off.
  • Just the angry tone in general. Complains about the stratosphere sucking but does little (IMO) to fix it. His last post however touched it so he is actually trying to at least show us what he means.
  • Just post #1071 in general.

However, overall i still like Kurumi. there are things about him that made me rethink from earlier (when i was sus. of him) he still is a bit iffy b/c of the things above.
Still would like more divisty though from him. He kinda hasn't done that (kinda has tunneled on Tube and Gum) he kinda spreaded out into reads on VA and sand (both of which i agree with). I kinda now have him on a watch list.


Koshi,
I filter Koshi because i thought he went MIA short after being town read + difference in treatment of 100% mafia x (I was X last game in Noir, was fun ^^)
Iz was wrong.
Only complaint is that he drop the list thing. He is showing all signs of the rage Koshi i know. Nothing else really challenged that as well. So far everything checks out.
Also in case you were wondering about the 100%mafia is X thing, Koshi tends to rage and call everything that person does scummy and bitches about them not getting lynched. I thought he was being mellow (for koshi) with his Rik thing, but it was fine after i look at it.
Actually there is one thing that is kinda off.
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 23:56 Koshi wrote:
No wait. If ritoky isn't happening I will put in on tumble.

He has given up early. Last game he fought until the deadline and only switched because it being PIMI or what ever the instant lynch thing was called. even though i kinda agree on tumble. Feels weird that dropped it so fast.

Overall, i still would call him maybe a town lean. Would like for him to maybe explain a tad bit on tumble.
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 25 2016 03:35 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 02:57 Damdred wrote:
Not sure what you have disproven, the only game ice been wrong on ls was the game we were scum and was powering him through his cell.

Ritoky i am still 100% after d1, every time he's scum I'm on his ass made one bad call about him though which is why i said he's probably town.

I tunnel scum generally and don't tunnel at all most of the time. Do your little stabs have no real value here.

You aren't 100% on ritoky. He fucking shot town over obvious mafia and you didn't see it and sucked up to him for 4 full days. I do'nt remember what game. But it happened.

Lynch all liars. Stop lying or claim mafia.

On March 25 2016 05:54 Koshi wrote:
Pretty sure I should make it to D4 or D5. Afk till then.

Doesn't afk.
Totes lynch.
(this is a joke btw)



Rsoul,
I have been told, that in order to understand if someone is scum, you must be in their shoes!
I don't think she has shioes, maybe bear claws, but not shoes.
She kinda jumped on the Kuru wagon a bit early. But i guess it looks fine from a read progression view.
One thing i do not like however, is that she just seems ready to lynch everyone and everything. "look at this from Tumble" "Oh look at thiiiiiissssss from Rik ^^ Double 360 no shoot" "Oh look fake anger, vote vote vote! *flicks finger*"
She also has what appears to be a cultiness ability on LS.
Idk anything about her town playstyle. In devil she was more focused (aka on me) on one target. So maybe that would make her town? Just find it weird that she has so many posts pushing so many people.


Look a this strange post of reads especially kur, even Tina has all these reasons to scum read but still town reads her. Seems like a little distancing on both.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 14 2016 21:27 GMT
#6068
On March 26 2016 06:12 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2016 06:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 26 2016 06:06 Shapelog wrote:
*math states the at least 1 to 2 people might be scum when using 4 player mafia team.

I am guessing you are pulling that right out of your ass superbia style, yes? What's with people just assuming things for no reason recently? It's retarded.

I was just using a 4 player mafia team because a 5 player mafia team was just a tad bit harsh for the point i was making. Perhaps a 4 and 1/2 scum team should suffice no?

Pretty much. Though i think the scum team number should be roughly 4-5 since for m18 it was 4. idk how Mr.PAL-mar balances though.


And kur and sharp both talk about 4 person scum team so much. God it reeks of tmi
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 14 2016 21:42 GMT
#6069
Up to page 11 of shapes filter, super interesting about the same time we know scum probably has information about sls role shape starts attacking SL comparing his blue games in thread etc. Like that makes me go hrm
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 14 2016 21:48 GMT
#6070
Before I continue much more, if Scott is mafia he really doesn't have many choices in this situation.

If he's scum he kept someone in lylo who has said oh shitdamdred is confirmed town, so he has already lost one vote to him.

He knows I'm super suspicious of him already and am always semi scum reading him so leaves him in a super precarious situation where his only solution is to go after Damdred hard and convince shape I'm not confirmed.

Or he has to shred days of work and go after shape and try to convince me who has been super suspicious of him so much so I haven't even protected him at all all game.

Just doesn't seem like a winning solution to me. But I'm back to shapes filter and then to Scott's to see what's there
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 14 2016 21:58 GMT
#6071
I think to elaborate on that:

The kill does indicate Scott, koshi said he was going to go after him today. So why not shoot him eh?

Scott's main focus yesterday was fuck Damdred lynch him. Not,much to work with today in that regard.

My previous postings have me somewhat suspicious of shape but I have a lot of suspicion on Scott and if the rc is the engineer I think he's scum.

So most likely we tee off on each other, shapes opinions are pretty guarded between us and seems to be waiting to do,anything ie yesterday until,he sees where and when we go after each other or anyone.

Its just a thought now,but yeah.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 14 2016 22:02 GMT
#6072
Also ls was going to hard push shape,I guess, he can't stop posting.

Maybe he was dead for,being right. That would,'ve interesting while everyone else was worried about Ows va, me Scott he was most suspicious of shape.

Yeah I like that to.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 14 2016 22:11 GMT
#6073
Up to page 15 of shape log,

His reaction to rs dying seemed a little off tbh, it seemed forced and lacked a bit of wonder that a lot,of,other people,about wtf happened.

His case on kur was pretty decent though. If he's scum the whole team bussed the fuck out of each other which btw we know,mostly happened anyway. He was to,sure and right after,kur just gave up,and he already had votes on him before the case.

Jat was sure kur was Scum. So we're several others.

Its interesting and he's way to sure SL is an alien which he was.

I'm taking a break for a bit.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 14 2016 22:34 GMT
#6074
Actually I'm cheating and reading Scott now I'll finish shape up soon.

Could you expand on why you loved shapes case on super but decided to go tumble at the last second?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 14 2016 23:07 GMT
#6075
Scott's filter is interesting.

Your vote count yesterday I think had me green, but you were voting for me I think? Unless I misread why?
unholyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
42 Posts
April 15 2016 10:00 GMT
#6076
Day 8 Votecount

Shapelog (1): Damdred

Day 8 ends in
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
April 15 2016 14:08 GMT
#6077
On April 15 2016 03:57 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2016 07:31 Shapelog wrote:
Scott, what do you think about everything?


I was thinking about it last night - I'm still in Vegas, I should be driving home tonight.

so I've been in two LYLO'S as town - Firefly and Guardians. Guardians was my first one, Damdred was in that game as well. I've never been in a LYLO as mafia. I have a strong feeling I'm going to the victim for the third time.

+ Show Spoiler [Don't read] +
In the wise words of Palmar, this turns into - the puppet, the puppetmaster, and the victim. I got a Quickdraw PM in my replacement message


I've learned a lot from those two games as town. The first thing would be that even if you are town and know who the mafia is since they go after you - acting 100% that you know the puppetmaster is mafia looks mafia sided to the puppet, because they'll be like "Why are you so sure? it could be me too if you're town, right?" but from your own point of view, it's obvious. I don't want to make that mistake again.

The second thing would be is to just re-look over everything, including both filters from the others and re-read parts of the game and figure out intentions from days before - since this day is going to be a lot different.

+ Show Spoiler [Damdred's list] +
On April 09 2016 23:36 Damdred wrote:
Right now Ows look at this, why should I 100% know what to do? This game is incredibly hard

Ows- weak town feels, technically is the hammer on Tt putting him one over Tt. On the verge of death didn't care about being,lynched. I don't think,he's scum.

LS- been low impact, but does work when as scythe wouldn't. Dug through my filter to show how I was pushing Tt when people were starting to gain momentum.

Scott- claimed blue, slam bread crumbed the shot very well. It is a poor shot, small activity but cent be the mafia in a solo situation.

VA- super lackluster first 4 days didn't care. Suddenly cares after the tumble lynch hasn't done a lot since the Ritojy lynch. Kinda meh on him.

Koshi- mafia were on him and tumble. Sudden swing on Tt makes it somewhat unlikely with how suddenly it was and how many town was on Tt that koshi was the scum. Plus his activity and craziness and bm make him town.

Shaoe- early game was bad and missed a lot of what he was. Was super right after then and seems to be hyper focused on lynch bait ls. Its possible he was tmi, which is why I'm considering him.

Damdred- claimed blue, can't be a single scum. Can't be scum with Scott, mod message infers he's town. Etc etc



I'm a dayvig. Beyond Alakaslam's shot being townie, I'd have to be a rolecop and a dayvig in order to be mafia, which is basically impossible. The only other possibility is that the engineer had a role check night 1 and checked sicklucker.

I could re-write others words but best explained as-
On April 07 2016 06:38 Koshi wrote:
scott is never mafia btw. I forgot about the fact it was a silent shot on D1.

Imagine mafia shooting someone the first second of the game for lulz.


Scot is setup wise confirmed town.

HOLY SHIT WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE NOT THINKING OF SHIT LIKE THIS


And in your words -

Scott:
- Pretty much it for scott. Maybe, by some kind of crazy setup, Mafia had a factional day shot, and Slam, as a RC, did it to buy massive cred early on. Literally the only way that guy can be mafia.

I'll be back in a bit.

What is the point of telling me to reread things, if you are just going to cite things to tell that I should trust you (both my words and others)? After ranting about a puppetmaster lol.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
April 15 2016 14:09 GMT
#6078
Also btw! Good news everyone!

Last night was the last day for my follow up appointments about my operation to remove my thyroid cancer!
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
April 15 2016 14:21 GMT
#6079
On April 15 2016 05:55 Damdred wrote:
Hey first time I've been on in a day or so.

Things went for the worst and well I'm sorry I didn't save koshi tbh.

Anyway my first thought is that shape as town shouldn't need to ask me or Scott where we stand. Yesterday he said I'm 100% confirmed because of mod message and amount of blues etc.

It seems like instead of reaching to find a reason to scum read us or one of us (by his past posts it should just be Scott here) he is waiting to see how the tide turns if we will turn on each other and he can just pick who he wants to lynch.

That's ny first thought.

As for Scott he is at least doing work so as of now I am not inclined to lynch him. Him digging through past games and his post with that quote really reminds me.

Also just the sheer number of blues is pretty believable.

As of now shape is my pick for scum and I'm voting him.

I also said similar things about scott yesterday.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 15 2016 14:41 GMT
#6080
No you agreed I was 100% mod confirmed yesterday, no way I should ever be scum yo you
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