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On April 05 2016 23:18 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2016 22:25 Shapelog wrote: Anyways, (I need to break this habit that i picked up.)
LS posts about "me or rik" rubbed me wrong. I really do not understand the mindset that he has here. Idk about him, I felt like he was town before, but hes been slowing deteriorating that read on him.
Like one of the things i remember from N1 about LS was that he was already at that time hyperventilating about being auto-lynched after Rsoul flipped. Which felt off at the time a bit, but i thought it would be weird for scum to post in the thread that they had no scum reads 2 hours before the lynch and then stress out in thread about being auto-lynch vs venting in a qt, sheeping instead of me having to literally posting basic stuff just ask Who/what/when where type of questions to him to make him read someone. And he picked Tube so :/
His filter has a a lot of self defending. And his votes have really been bad.
But what is also weird, is that he is not acting like he was in cell. In cell he had a target, he had a agenda. Here? not so much.
idk, like he has tunneled into "Everyone is sus. of me" mode" and is now trying to commit Sudoku. If he flips scum, then obv. someone who is not sus. at all TODAY (as they prob. thought of about it today) is prob the scum buddy. Idk, i feel like he will flip town though, as a martyr play as scum really do not make sense as it would put mafia in a bad situation. Good post. I had the same ideas over the game. Damdred saying you could be scum is the dumbest thing after the Tumble lynch. I mean he is wrong, but at least he is considering all options koshi.
I rather have someone in my town who considers everything vs. someone who puts something down and just hopes to get lucky, instead of questioning everything and seeing if they are right.
*cough cough NSM XIX cough*
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On April 05 2016 23:34 Koshi wrote: What if Damdred protected rsoultin twice and the sk shot her twice? That would mean Damdred had to protect her N1 and N2 instead of JAT(who also died n2).
also i think she would auto die according to Damdred description. As he said anyone who is hit again on life support would auto die.
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On April 05 2016 23:46 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2016 23:09 Shapelog wrote: Unless if super hit a immune person...
idk, the KP is missing, and i forgot that TT could be a Rb (with all that vivax hinting) and mafia lost a rb. we dont know TT was a roleblocker man. You think palmar wouldnt mindgame us on that? You think thats below him? are you following this games mechanics?
TT could be a Rb (with all that vivax hinting) and mafia lost a rb. That is why i said could Saltshaker........... Va or someone mention TT and i remember about it.
Also yeah i know a person cannot find every possible angle, but what i was getting at was basically pondering things that do not seem obv.
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Hmmm,
Rik's plan took 17 mins (from game start) to be thought of and pushed out of rik's mind. But we have to consider that he had to think about it before due to him saying somewhere about how in close set ups you can do that to get it and blah blah blah.
Scum!Rik not killing bluedamdred! seems weird to me. That might be because if damdred flipped blue it would bad on rik. But i just thought of something...
Why would Rik. end the plan without trying to gain more information as scum?
That kinda is a burning question to me. He could of keep quiet and allow scum to find more and more blues WHILE achiveivng the whole confirm angle he was going for.
Outside of that, Rik. hasn't done much that was huge IMO.
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On April 06 2016 02:45 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2016 02:35 Shapelog wrote: Hmmm,
Rik's plan took 17 mins (from game start) to be thought of and pushed out of rik's mind. But we have to consider that he had to think about it before due to him saying somewhere about how in close set ups you can do that to get it and blah blah blah.
Scum!Rik not killing bluedamdred! seems weird to me. That might be because if damdred flipped blue it would bad on rik. But i just thought of something...
Why would Rik. end the plan without trying to gain more information as scum?
That kinda is a burning question to me. He could of keep quiet and allow scum to find more and more blues WHILE achiveivng the whole confirm angle he was going for.
Outside of that, Rik. hasn't done much that was huge IMO. Damdred not getting killed has nothing to do with ritoky his alignment. 1) ritoky blue read on Damdred was explained fully in the thread. Any mafia could pick that up.2) Damdred claimed blue N2? Or even faster. Ik, but what i am getting at is why did he not wait and try to get more blues for his team if he was mafia?
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You know people are going to be bias right koshi?
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On April 05 2016 07:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2016 07:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Why would scott be one of the people jumping off of super if he was going to shoot him tonight, though? Fixed. Meant to say scott, not ritoky. I don't think ritoky was there at the end anyway but that's what I meant to say lmao. Fun fact about OWS. Read the quote hidden too.
Found this actually strange now after i look at OWS filter. Since later he throws sus. on scott, who earlier had this.
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Yeah me too, I am in class right now, and going to vote. Though would like OWS to come and reply, just to seem his response.
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On April 06 2016 02:53 scott31337 wrote: I think LS is the better lynch - If my top town has a better read to sheep - I might be down for that.
Fun fact, I called LS most likely to flip town, and scott goes for the vote.
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Just got home so going to catch up but i heard something about Mafia KP or whatever.
If we do not win this phase (I.E. there are 4 scums and 1 sk and we lynch scum and win) we would have nk's with KP. That, In tell, would tell us more information about what is left in the game.
I think.
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On April 06 2016 09:16 Shapelog wrote: Just got home so going to catch up but i heard something about Mafia KP or whatever.
If we do not win this phase (I.E. there are 4 scums and 1 sk and we lynch scum and win) we would have nk's with KP. That, In tell, would tell us more information about what is left in the game.
I think. Yeah this isn't happening, I been interrupted a bit, plus I am tired since i had a seminar today after college. Tomorrow morning i read better.
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On April 06 2016 03:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2016 03:48 Koshi wrote:On April 06 2016 03:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Do people actually care about what I said about Scott or nah? Yes. If you can make is suspenseful. Again. Explain to me how that role makes more sense for mafia. Knowing the only vig we have is sandroba. Knowing that there is an sk who had kp, and mafia with a lot of kp. How does town ever get a grip? I'm not really big on role speculation: that's VA's gig. I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that scum gets an extra KP role due to the sk just existing and plausibly mucking up their plans at any point. Did you think the shot was towny or is the fact that he has a role at all the thing holding you back? TBF, (and i might be wrong here cuz it is nearing 9 in the morning) your sus. has to do with his role.
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On April 06 2016 08:28 LightningStrike wrote: So you finally accepted my challenge to a death match this phase. Brilliant. I hope you are not just going to sit there and post these posts all cycle.
Eh, i mean this is your plan in a nut shell
+ Show Spoiler +If you are both town, and you get lynched this cycle (which is what? 3-3-3 when i looked at the vote count this morning.) you will cause a witch hunt from town onto rik. next cycle.
If rik is scum and you are town, you are protientullary letting someone you find scummy live instead of making a case against him. Your whole reasoning behind this was that you both were ?'s marks for everyone and everyone found you 2 scummy.
If you are scum and rik is town, then you would be lynched and town would get more info, unless you somehow argue against it and sway enough people (which enough people are towning read you so meh.)
If both of you are scum, pretty ballsy play. Dumb as you cast sus. on yourself, and forced to heavily bussed rik. though it is not bad so to say, as you could get yourself town read and coast. But it would be hard for you.
Tinfoil but Actually that could also explain why you are so dead set on this plan, as you are actually secretly scum with scum!rik here and you are using this to get the cred needed to win. You have kill the Sk, therefore, you would not need to worry about KP. and therefore coast, defend. win. Tinfoilily but true.
If anyone else gets lynched, you are still a "?'s" marks. Nothing is gain here from this plan.
Hmmm, overall, this actually benefits either a T Vs S situation here or a S vs S situation here..... At least benefits the most.
Your not a hero (see what i did, PYP role that makes this happen )
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On April 06 2016 17:19 sicklucker wrote: OF course it is hes been defending him all game for no reason. Altho its unlikely dandred is mafia. Flip ls mafia and maybe you can consider it. I think hes mafia regardless of dandreds role tho. Dandred has a really soft spot for defending people he has close connections too I have noticed over the mafia games. Yeah i always have seen (when they play together) that they are buddies. And focus on reading each other a lot.
I wouldn't really think much of it.
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On April 06 2016 22:17 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2016 22:05 Shapelog wrote:On April 06 2016 08:28 LightningStrike wrote: So you finally accepted my challenge to a death match this phase. Brilliant. I hope you are not just going to sit there and post these posts all cycle. Eh, i mean this is your plan in a nut shell + Show Spoiler +If you are both town, and you get lynched this cycle (which is what? 3-3-3 when i looked at the vote count this morning.) you will cause a witch hunt from town onto rik. next cycle.
If rik is scum and you are town, you are protientullary letting someone you find scummy live instead of making a case against him. Your whole reasoning behind this was that you both were ?'s marks for everyone and everyone found you 2 scummy.
If you are scum and rik is town, then you would be lynched and town would get more info, unless you somehow argue against it and sway enough people (which enough people are towning read you so meh.)
If both of you are scum, pretty ballsy play. Dumb as you cast sus. on yourself, and forced to heavily bussed rik. though it is not bad so to say, as you could get yourself town read and coast. But it would be hard for you.
Tinfoil but Actually that could also explain why you are so dead set on this plan, as you are actually secretly scum with scum!rik here and you are using this to get the cred needed to win. You have kill the Sk, therefore, you would not need to worry about KP. and therefore coast, defend. win. Tinfoilily but true.
If anyone else gets lynched, you are still a "?'s" marks. Nothing is gain here from this plan.
Hmmm, overall, this actually benefits either a T Vs S situation here or a S vs S situation here..... At least benefits the most.
Your not a hero (see what i did, PYP role that makes this happen  ) If he was 3rd Party he would of killed me already. Super would? Wait, do you think super isn't 3rd party? + Show Spoiler +So far with the information given I've gone with the Sk idea since it makes sense.
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On April 06 2016 22:21 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2016 22:19 Shapelog wrote:On April 06 2016 22:17 LightningStrike wrote:On April 06 2016 22:05 Shapelog wrote:On April 06 2016 08:28 LightningStrike wrote: So you finally accepted my challenge to a death match this phase. Brilliant. I hope you are not just going to sit there and post these posts all cycle. Eh, i mean this is your plan in a nut shell + Show Spoiler +If you are both town, and you get lynched this cycle (which is what? 3-3-3 when i looked at the vote count this morning.) you will cause a witch hunt from town onto rik. next cycle.
If rik is scum and you are town, you are protientullary letting someone you find scummy live instead of making a case against him. Your whole reasoning behind this was that you both were ?'s marks for everyone and everyone found you 2 scummy.
If you are scum and rik is town, then you would be lynched and town would get more info, unless you somehow argue against it and sway enough people (which enough people are towning read you so meh.)
If both of you are scum, pretty ballsy play. Dumb as you cast sus. on yourself, and forced to heavily bussed rik. though it is not bad so to say, as you could get yourself town read and coast. But it would be hard for you.
Tinfoil but Actually that could also explain why you are so dead set on this plan, as you are actually secretly scum with scum!rik here and you are using this to get the cred needed to win. You have kill the Sk, therefore, you would not need to worry about KP. and therefore coast, defend. win. Tinfoilily but true.
If anyone else gets lynched, you are still a "?'s" marks. Nothing is gain here from this plan.
Hmmm, overall, this actually benefits either a T Vs S situation here or a S vs S situation here..... At least benefits the most.
Your not a hero (see what i did, PYP role that makes this happen  ) If he was 3rd Party he would of killed me already. Super would? Wait, do you think super isn't 3rd party? + Show Spoiler +So far with the information given I've gone with the Sk idea since it makes sense. They were multiple 3rd parties in the last storm game granted they were ninja's. So you think rik. is 3rd party? Cuz i didn't say he was third party in that post. That why i am confused.
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But where did you get the notation i was calling him third party? I'm so confused...
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On April 06 2016 22:36 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2016 22:34 Shapelog wrote: But where did you get the notation i was calling him third party? I'm so confused... The S vs S statement you made. Yes.... I tinfoil moment that you and rik could be scum, for the reasons in the post. idk where you got the idea i was calling rik 3rd party. Maybe when i meation Sk? but i was talking about super.
:/
Anyways, i am not a firm believer in that yet. I still think you are town(ish), even if your plan makes no sense what so ever.
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On March 27 2016 13:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2016 12:49 sandroba wrote: prob vivax, TT or tumble. Maybe even rels, I'm kinda torn on him. Oh and also slam needs to die too I think. Can you explain Rels and Slam to me? I'm starting to come around on tumble possibly being scum and I'm already aware of the fact that TT needs to die regardless of what he is.
On March 28 2016 03:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'd probably switch ritoky and TT. Otherwise I'm a fan of that list Koshi.
On March 28 2016 23:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2016 23:46 Superbia wrote: Wait from your filter you agree with Koshi's list. Is this still the case? I started agreeing with it and then kind of axed that idea when I started moving people around. Tumble is probably my top scum along with Tt and I've got a few outliers that aren't concrete yet.
On March 29 2016 03:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I think we should lynch Ticktock for perpetually staying behind and doing whatever instead of being obnoxious and difficult like he usually is.
On March 29 2016 04:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Koshi why was tumble in your mafia list?
On March 29 2016 05:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 04:59 Vivax wrote:Not Voting (5): Kurumi, Rels, Tictock, Shapelog, LightningStrike When I see this I really start to doubt myself. I should probably just have kept pushing the TickTock lynch, he was clearly around a few hours ago and now he still didn't cast a goddamn vote after even posting his candidates. I already mentioned this but nobody else went for it.
On March 29 2016 06:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Everyone piles onto my lynch again... Now I'm paranoid. D:
On March 29 2016 06:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote: And TT is also voting TW... I don't know what this means but it's scary, yo.
On March 29 2016 06:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Idfk. Wat do.
On March 29 2016 06:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Fuck I don't know.
There is some weird things (that i do not know if it has been mention) when i look back at Obi's filter. He had TT and Tw as top scum reads, pushed the TT lynch. Wanted a TT lynch, yet was not sure if the lynch on TT was a good idea.
From a view point, Obi should of been fine with either lynch. And shouldn't be freaking out when confounded with the TT lynch.
He also had TT in the same boat as tumble, yet he did not push nearly as hard as he did on Tumble (at least IMO.) This feels like soft pushing to me.
I look at more when i get the time.
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On April 07 2016 05:28 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2016 05:20 Damdred wrote: I wish I had a few bullets atm there's to many people to lynch.
I think the most confusing thing is why rs and everyone just didn't go to koshi when we lynched tt.
Would of been enough votes to push that lynch over so weird. I thought that Koshi was town that why I didn't go on his wagon. I think he was talking about the scum team LS lol.
Going to look into a few things.
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