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Rels
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On January 19 2016 13:52 Keirathi wrote: Koshi's entrance and "dumb tell" things kind of piqued my interest but it's Koshi so who the fk knows with him. People always doubt dumbtells, but I've never seen mafia fake them. I'm sure it can happen, but I'm also sure it is super unlikely. What do you mean " it's Koshi so who the fk knows with him" ? Is he known for making fake dumbtells ? | ||
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Keirathi
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Rels
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On January 19 2016 21:10 Onegu wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/K9hCYSj.jpg) LOL If you can post that you can also change your number to something that hasn't been picked | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
On January 19 2016 21:18 Palmar wrote: mass claiming d1 is generally fine unless there is some kind of a witch role that matches players with roles and murders them. there's too many targets for mafia to kill, and it really helps Isn't that exactly what Ezio does? On January 19 2016 22:59 Rels wrote: Man, Ezio is kinda bad compared to others for town, but super good for mafia. Should be in the "policy" category IMO. I think directing the role distribution is super good though: - we can hold people accountable - if someone important is for example roleblocked, we have a list of person that couldn't do it - it assures town to have good roles Okay, how would this picking by pick order work exactly? Like once the pick order is established. We start with the first person to announce which role he/she wants and that has to be one of the roles very good for town? Which would also mean everyone would know everyone's role from the beginning. Another advantage would be the minimization of overlap and therefore wild card mysterious challengers in the game. Still not 100% about this, so if someone could explain a bit more in detail what the actual process of picking by pick order would entail that would be appreciated. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On January 19 2016 23:05 Keirathi wrote: I don't really think Ezio is that good, even for Mafia. Why strip one personof their power when there are plenty of other roles that would let you kill them plus do other stuff /shrug I'm pretty sure there is some broken claim combinaisons we can do as town (the two det + Watson claim that was proposed is a good example), and Ezio destroys the first attempt at that. He's also a roleblocker. It's written "once per game", but I assume this only counts for the "destroy the ability" part, not the roleblock part. I asked to be sure. It's true that if the RB is also part of the "once per game" stuff, it's a kinda bad role; but I don't think it's the case. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On January 19 2016 23:09 disformation wrote: Isn't that exactly what Ezio does? Okay, how would this picking by pick order work exactly? Like once the pick order is established. We start with the first person to announce which role he/she wants and that has to be one of the roles very good for town? Which would also mean everyone would know everyone's role from the beginning. Another advantage would be the minimization of overlap and therefore wild card mysterious challengers in the game. Still not 100% about this, so if someone could explain a bit more in detail what the actual process of picking by pick order would entail that would be appreciated. I don't know how we could do it in details, but in general it's good for the reasons above. Especially the lack of mysterious challengers; after all, there are only 8 mafia, if everybody picks good roles, it means 14 townies has separate and good roles. I didn't count the number of roles but I assume there are more than 22. p: Now for the details, I suppose we just go down kita's tier list, like people just announce what they pick and we can talk about it. | ||
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Rels
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On January 19 2016 21:16 sicklucker wrote: onegu you can have 1.1 if you pick dream flower. do you agree? if not im going to have someone take 1.1 so neither of you get it This is brillant. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
On January 19 2016 23:13 disformation wrote: Oh read ezio again, remembered him wrong. Thought he could deal KP. You know him being an assassin and stuff. xD EBWOP | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On January 19 2016 13:34 Damdred wrote: It sort of does, oneg trolls in x way as town and t way as scum. Its just hard to quantify. but yeah couple town leans at this point. Since you didn't state them, can you expand ? | ||
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Breshke
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Breshke
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On January 19 2016 23:19 Rels wrote: Caught up. Since you didn't state them, can you expand ? I'm not sure that damdred knows the actual answers you would need to ask geript i think. I also dropped it because while geript can give some nice meta reads I don't think you are going to get much from this one im fairly sure it is more of a "feelings" thing. But lets see | ||
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Half the Sky
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Rels
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On January 19 2016 23:23 Breshke wrote: I'm not sure that damdred knows the actual answers you would need to ask geript i think. I also dropped it because while geript can give some nice meta reads I don't think you are going to get much from this one im fairly sure it is more of a "feelings" thing. But lets see I'm asking for his townleans p: I saw geript's "Mm can't really explain this feeling" post, seemed super townie to me. | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
On January 19 2016 23:24 Rels wrote: I'm asking for his townleans p: I saw geript's "Mm can't really explain this feeling" post, seemed super townie to me. Yep derp soz Also there is a chance FF is choosing 7,1 because i told him that was free but he never really said anything about it. Just a warning for ya | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On January 19 2016 23:29 Breshke wrote: Yep derp soz Also there is a chance FF is choosing 7,1 because i told him that was free but he never really said anything about it. Just a warning for ya Yep I saw that catching up but he didn't claim picking them. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
On January 19 2016 23:04 Rels wrote: People always doubt dumbtells, but I've never seen mafia fake them. I'm sure it can happen, but I'm also sure it is super unlikely. What do you mean " it's Koshi so who the fk knows with him" ? Is he known for making fake dumbtells ? It was already established & proven that Koshi forgot to count himself as mafia and only counted his teammates. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
He is sheeping my brilliant plan. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
On January 19 2016 23:15 Rels wrote: I don't know how we could do it in details, but in general it's good for the reasons above. Especially the lack of mysterious challengers; after all, there are only 8 mafia, if everybody picks good roles, it means 14 townies has separate and good roles. I didn't count the number of roles but I assume there are more than 22. p: Now for the details, I suppose we just go down kita's tier list, like people just announce what they pick and we can talk about it. Hmm... sounds fair enough. Trying to think of scenarios in which scum could try and mess with that. Like pick order A B C D E If D was a scum player he could pick the role E was going to take. This would force E into Mysterious Challenger and basically denies town two good roles (cause 1 is in the hands of player D). This has the drawback for scum that player E will be very mad and 100% will try to find the scum in A B C D. Which means this also only works if D and E would have picked very similar roles, so D doesn't get outed after N1. Giving up some of the prot roles to scum might also not be that bad though, they might run into problems for protecting their teammates over obv town ppl in the long run. Might also lead to hilarious situations where scum team A protects a towner from KP by scum team B. xD Biggest drawback is like scum smuggling in some roles like ezio, but that will probably be discovered after a night or two. That stuff is really complicated. xD Any thoughts? Do I make sense? I think I am down for the picking by pick order thing. | ||
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Rels
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Were you the one that proposed it first ? | ||
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