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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 19 2016 12:18 GMT
#381
On January 19 2016 21:18 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2016 21:16 sicklucker wrote:
onegu you can have 1.1 if you pick dream flower. do you agree? if not im going to have someone take 1.1 so neither of you get it



[image loading]

Man this pic is doing work while I wait for the doctor.

nice fake IV
Computer says mafia
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9697 Posts
January 19 2016 12:19 GMT
#382
Ok SL...
Try TL Mafia!!!
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 19 2016 12:20 GMT
#383
I've sort of read the game. Free town points for anyone who combines a list of people and the numbers they pick.

I'm going 10,10 because I'm 10/10
Computer says mafia
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 19 2016 12:21 GMT
#384
1. disformation 8.1
2. kitaman27 4.1
3. Rels
4. Onegu 1.1
5. Keirathi
6. GlowingBear
7. Damdred 9-19
8. Tictock

9. ObiWanShinobi 5.1
10. Breshke 20.20
11. AlotSomuch
12. Superbia 2.1 dreamflower
13. Koshi 3.1
14. VayneAuthority
15. The Shining
16. Fecalfeast
17. sicklucker 6.1
18. Cephiro
19. geript
20. Vivax
21. CopCake
22. Palmar
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 19 2016 12:23 GMT
#385
anything else mr plummer?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 19 2016 12:25 GMT
#386
no that was good, thanks man.
Computer says mafia
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 19 2016 12:25 GMT
#387
I make it neater
disformation 8.1
kitaman27 4.1
Rels
Onegu 1.1
Keirathi
GlowingBear
Damdred 9.19
Tictock
ObiWanShinobi 5.1
Breshke 20.20
AlotSomuch
Superbia 2.1 dreamflower
Koshi 3.1
VayneAuthority
The Shining
Fecalfeast
sicklucker 6.1
Cephiro
geript
Vivax
CopCake
Palmar 10.10
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 19 2016 12:25 GMT
#388
that didnt work
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 19 2016 12:26 GMT
#389
could you update that occasionally and post (like every few hours or so)
Computer says mafia
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 19 2016 12:31 GMT
#390
Yes for the most part I will. I might even learn how to make a proper chart when all is said and done
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 19 2016 12:32 GMT
#391
I ate too much tacos at 7am lol
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
January 19 2016 12:56 GMT
#392
if onegu is 1/1 I think we make him take dreamflower
Computer says mafia
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 19 2016 13:13 GMT
#393
alright I'm there, reading now
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 19 2016 13:14 GMT
#394
@list above I'll take 7 1 then. Unless I think someone highly placed is scum, in that case I'll counterpick his number
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 19 2016 13:18 GMT
#395
On January 19 2016 09:05 Onegu wrote:
Koshi dumbtelling town

++
Koshi is 100% town
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 19 2016 13:22 GMT
#396
On January 19 2016 09:20 Superbia wrote:
Protective and investigative roles are #1 priority for town.

So you're OK picking one role like that if you're high on the pick list right ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 19 2016 13:42 GMT
#397
+ Show Spoiler [long kita post] +

On January 19 2016 09:39 kitaman27 wrote:
Setup speculation time (first person to wine about this gets mafia points!)

Here is what I'm thinking for town's priority on the roles. The fact that the mafia kp has to be carried out and can be roleblocked or tracked is key. Things like jailer are especially powerful here and there are two of them! With mafia kp only at 2 after n1, the amount of rbing and protective roles can hopefully shut them down. In the past games, town always manages to shoot themselves in the foot by overlapping on their picks way too much while leaving perfectly valid roles unpicked so hopefully we can avoid that. I know everyone wants to be the sexy vig, but don't underestimate the usefulness of a protective or investigative role. The vig's just tend to end the game on day three or something, which is to our detriment in all blue setup.

I think the Link mass roleblock should definitely be used at night 2. It essentially is guaranteed to stop both mafia kp and we get a free lynch from it which is really useful.

I also think we should come up with a list that we should policy lynch if any player is found to have selected it. These roles are essentially only useful in scum hands. In past games, you could always do something like a denial pick or honest check by selecting a scum role in the draft to see if someone above you has picked it, but there are enough role cops that I think we can just get away with policy lynching anyone who is found with one of these.

I also think we should think about a mass claim earlier than later this game, but we can talk about that once it becomes relavent.

High priority:
Link - several very nice 1-shots plus a guaranteed double block of mafia kp
Jailkeeper - rb mafia kp, plus protect
Compulsive Gambler - day vig plus detective check
Holmes - Detective
Moriarty - Role cop, vet, holmes interaction
Captain Malcolm - Very useful to protect any town plan or leaders in general
Dr. House - Track plus protect. so good
Knight Artorias - Busdriver plus day vig, strong enough that I think it may be worth picking isn't of denying
Ayla - Another jailer
CPR Doc - super powerful
The Arrow - day vig with infomation upside

Medium Priority:
Dr. Sy N. Tist - parity cop and protect
Doctor - Always a great pick for lower tier
Time Travelling Vig - delayed vig that is better in hands of town
Yu Narukami - decent 1 shot abilities, might upgrade to high if I can think of a good way to abuse the Death card
Dreamflower - You're likely going to kill yourself within the first few days so I think the other vigs are probably a bit better
Ezio - 1 shot alignment check
Tommy the Fireman - tracker and vet is nice, but relies on target living and has a risky side effect
kitaman27 - :D Nice to verify a role claim or pick something up that slipped through

Low Priority:
Puppeteer - No offense, but your analysis skills aren't so godly that you need to hide behind a smurf
City Councilman - Mayor is typically anti-town. Bodyguard isn't that great compared to other protective roles
Watson - Sanity is nice to have, but meh
Speaker - Not strong enough to justify
Dimensional Lemming - Not as useless as some of the others, but lower on the list
Copycat - depends a bunch on the first lynch
Alchemist - can do better
Flowey - Mafia can hide thier kp this way, might be worth bumping to lowest tier since it isn't all that great to begin with

Policy Lynch:
Hero - If you're getting lynched, the self-pardon isn't going to do anything positive for the game most likely
PSY - Messes with checks. Maybe there is a good use for Hey, Sexy Lady that I'm not thinking off. Still say we ban this one.
Janitor - heh
GreYMisT - eww

???:
Nigella Lawson - Too lazy to look up those abilities at the moment
Werner Von Braun - Need super to translate :D


kita being the first to tryhard => town.

Werner Von Braun seems good: RB + day nuke + another potential KP with the Mars ability.
Nigella seems super good, maybe top tier, seems like she can protect if there is a confirmed town, or investigate if not. It's even possible "purge" is a KP.

On your low prio list:
Watson is a doc, he's at minimum tier 2.
Copycat is super good as obviously everybody will pick a good role; the meh roles will not be picked. Obviously there is a chance a mysterious challenger is the first to die, but it's unlikely stat wise I think.

The rest of the list seems good.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 19 2016 13:47 GMT
#398
I'm still picking 1,1 btw. Partly to deny first pick to onegu, partly because there are only 20 first numbers but 22 people so SOMEONE has to overlap, and partly because I don't particularly care where I am in the draft order.

I'm headed to school soon though and won't be back until ~an hour before deadline.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 19 2016 13:48 GMT
#399
On January 19 2016 09:43 Tictock wrote:
I could see mafia claiming to go for dreamflower though, it's an obviusly pro-town role and might give them some easy cred. For whatever reason I believe Super is seriously going for it though, which is a risky move for mafia.

Mafia never picks dreamflower, as they are assured to die sooner or later if they do. Anybody who picks dreamflower:
- is 100% town
- has strong steel balls.
Knowing this, how is claiming to go for a role then picking another is "easy cred" ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 19 2016 13:59 GMT
#400
On January 19 2016 10:34 Breshke wrote:
Is making everyone pick roles based on pick order really that great? For some roles you can directly hold people accountable cos announcements but for others I'm not really sure how you can tell what they are doing. Also there's the risk that mafia get the ezio role

This being said I have no better alternative.

Man, Ezio is kinda bad compared to others for town, but super good for mafia. Should be in the "policy" category IMO.

I think directing the role distribution is super good though:
- we can hold people accountable
- if someone important is for example roleblocked, we have a list of person that couldn't do it
- it assures town to have good roles
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