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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
February 04 2016 02:14 GMT
#5741
On February 04 2016 10:54 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 10:06 GreYMisT wrote:
Oh also, I would like player input on the following mechanics in the game


I think some type of mechanic to discourage mass claims during the picking phase would make the games a bit more interesting. With a pyp setup like this one, I think it is essentially always in town's best interest to organize the draft with specific picks like the plan Palmar provided. If the decision wasn't as clear cut with something like a factional Ezio (and nerfing mafia in some other way in exchange), the game might play out closer to a typical themed game.


Yea I probably needed more roles that punished that play. The issue was that is town's main avantage in a game like this, and I didnt want to entriely want to take that away. In addition I needed to find a way to punish roleclaims without actually adding in more KP, which this game had plenty of.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 04 2016 02:24 GMT
#5742
Another scum win where fecalfeast was the clear MVP
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
February 04 2016 02:25 GMT
#5743
I was reading the game without OBS and thought it was Shining at the end. WP Superbia

THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
February 04 2016 02:25 GMT
#5744
I'll be honest i'm just happy you all didn't find a way to break my game, otherwise I would have lost my perfect record
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
February 04 2016 02:33 GMT
#5745
On February 04 2016 10:57 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 10:55 GlowingBear wrote:
Lol so I correctly roleblocked Superbia XD


Thereby saving me and giving Town a real chance at pulling out the win.

You are a town hero sir.


YES!

I'M BATMAN!

}8(
I'm adorable.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 04 2016 02:53 GMT
#5746
I like that I solved this game about the same time Obs QT did ^.^
I can take that responsibility.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
February 04 2016 03:05 GMT
#5747
On February 04 2016 09:49 Half the Sky wrote:
GGs. Phone posting ATM. Superbia, congrats on the clutch and to the townies left my commiserations.

Tictock you get a shoutout for your performance.

GreY it was a pleasure I appreciate being to learn from you.

FWIW in case people want to see the night actions in full.

Only have the first two nights, sorry for not having beyond...

[image loading]

[image loading]

I'll comment on a few more things when I return.


Reminds me of my biochemistry and neuro notes.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
February 04 2016 05:51 GMT
#5748
I read some parts of this game and thought town was playing really well. Congrats superbia on the win, it looked very hard to pull off.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-04 05:56:53
February 04 2016 05:55 GMT
#5749
Very hard game for the town.
Well played, especially Palmar and Superbia.

I am surprised you didn't catch Rels earlier though.
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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 04 2016 06:45 GMT
#5750
I will say Palmar really brought his A game. I'm still mad I couldn't kill anyone N1. I would've shot scum.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
February 04 2016 06:57 GMT
#5751
On February 04 2016 15:45 geript wrote:
I will say Palmar really brought his A game. I'm still mad I couldn't kill anyone N1. I would've shot scum.

Sowwy I thought you were trying to pocket me
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 04 2016 07:00 GMT
#5752
On January 20 2016 14:58 geript wrote:
FWIW, I don't like Rels. For having so many townreads, he's kinda wasting his time one random peripheral shit and doing nothing at all. Like I feel like I should have an idea of who he's looking at or interested in; in the least I think he should be trying to town circle a bit more and he's just kinda blah.

Exactly why i read Rels mafia early on in the game btw.
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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 04 2016 10:30 GMT
#5753
GG to everyone. Thanks GM and HTS, this game was awesome.
Everybody played super well, it was a super fun game. Of course I'm kinda mad 'cause a lot of decisions could have won the game for us (me picking alchemsit to kill Palmar D1, me not switcing the kill to Koshi so Koshi dies D1, Damdred not protecting superbia N2, us killing superbia N3 instead of Koshi ...).
BUT both red team and town deserved to win as well, and it's quite rare. Fucking WP everyone.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 04 2016 10:31 GMT
#5754
On February 04 2016 16:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 14:58 geript wrote:
FWIW, I don't like Rels. For having so many townreads, he's kinda wasting his time one random peripheral shit and doing nothing at all. Like I feel like I should have an idea of who he's looking at or interested in; in the least I think he should be trying to town circle a bit more and he's just kinda blah.

Exactly why i read Rels mafia early on in the game btw.

Can't wait to roll scum again against you so you carry me to victory. (=
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 04 2016 10:32 GMT
#5755
On February 02 2016 07:59 Tictock wrote:
Ok, so my predictions, Cake gets shot flips scum and GB flips Town. Scum kills The Shining. (+1?)

Slim chance Super shoots me instead (if he does he is 100% scum, like forcing town to consider using a lynch on Cake one more day is such a mafia move it's not even funny) but I'm fairly sure Shining dies due to my Ban on him.

After Cake I think Palmar and Suber as most likely to be scum. Maybe I'm way off on TS and SL, but I don't think so. Between them Palmar has done a ton of work in catching scum, it's really unlikely that he is scum and if he is he's played this very well.

Basically this leaves me looking at Super.




I took another look at his filter from D1 onward, wanted to be a bit more thorough and also look for possible associations.

I think there is a strong chance Super was with FF. FF was one of the few people I actually fins Super talking about having a strong TR on, but it feels pretty flimsy. He flipped as soon as the check was reveled but he also tried to start shenannies EoD onto me. Really odd move given how the day had been, also it's odd how sure Super has been on me being scum all game but has never given any reasoning to push it.

For reference I put all the posts related to FF I could find together, sorry if they are jumbled. Nothing really stands out, but together it looks far more like Super is coaxing FF to post and play then gives him an unexplained townread.

+ Show Spoiler [Super's Posts on FF] +
On January 20 2016 02:02 Superbia wrote:
FF post some more.

On January 20 2016 06:24 Superbia wrote:
What do you feel your chances are this game FF?

On January 20 2016 06:29 Superbia wrote:
Mind sharing the knowledge VA? Or do you want to keep it a secret for now?

Also any reads so far FF? What do you think about my alignment?

On January 20 2016 09:35 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 09:28 Palmar wrote:
On January 20 2016 09:15 sicklucker wrote:
1. Keirathi 1
2. Superbia 2
3. ObiWanShinobi 5
4. Rels 7
5. Palmar 10
6. geript 17?
7. Breshke20

Everyone else overlapped lol and i got last somehow...
8. Koshi
9. Cephiro
10. kitaman27
11. Vivax
12. Tictock
13. disformation
14. Fecalfeast
15. Damdred
16. AlotSomuch
17. VayneAuthority
18. The Shining
19. Onegu
20. Sicklucker
21. Copcake
22. GlowingBear


The following players need to be assigned roles due to alignment:

ceph
vivax
disfo
fecal
alot
vayne
shining
glowingbear


I like this list a lot. I think you can remove FF though. Not entirely sure yet.

On January 22 2016 09:19 Superbia wrote:
Wow FF with the actual logic bomb. Nice.

On January 22 2016 02:29 Superbia wrote:
Yeah FF got moriarty confirmed then. But I already had a decent townread on him so meh.


Then after seeing the Redcheck
On January 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:
Super tired. FF actually being mafia is the most messed up thing. Godread = no more.


Probably the biggest thing here is Super's EoD reactions before FF and Kita flip, it makes very little sense why he is suddenly wanting to shenannigan onto me. Unless of course it was a last ditch move to try and save FF. From a town perspective it makes no sense, you've either decided to trust and lynch the redcheck at that point, or you've explained why FF is town or Kita is scum (or both). Super did none of those things, he accepted the redcheck (just said "oops, guess my read on FF was bad") and doesn't bring doubts up till EoD.




I'm also noticing that Super was really focused on people not claiming D1 and in general had really been focused on mechanics and roles. So it's really wierd that I'm not finding any mention of Onegu in his filter. No reaction to Onegu's late claim/role. He shot VA for having an Anti-town role but then N2 Super tries to shoot me over Onegu for reasons? Why did he care so much about VA's role being anti town, but give literally no shits that Onegu took his role and wasted Alot's role by not claiming.

This is the only post I found where Super talks about Onegu's alignment.
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 09:05 Superbia wrote:
Onegu is a mystery to me tbh.


I also pointed out earlier how uninterested Super seemed when the lynch was Onegu vs SL, he jumped right into talking about night actions but nothing about lynches besides some stuff that suggests he preferred not to lynch Onegu. Which looks really off given he never gave a read on Onegu or really talked about him after asking him to claim D1.

Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 09:24 Superbia wrote:
God damnit. We should've had onegu kill off disformation with his ability and then lynched onegu. We could've forced keir to house diagnostics rels with only KP being able to interfere.






This is not really strong, but this post jumped out at me.
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 09:07 Superbia wrote:
Nah man. Use the resources you have. :D I have caught 100% mafia the same way.

I'm pretty sure from kita's filter alone that Vivax was likely with FF (opposite of Kita). Also leaning towards GB being a hit and on Kita's team.


The bit about GB is really wierd, how is there any indication as to who's team GB was on?

I think this is actually a slip. The only reason why Super could have any inclination about GB being on one team over the other is if Super is in fact mafia with FF and Vivax (and Onegu), it makes sense given the stuff I noticed between Super and FF as well.


Biggest thing is that don't give anyone a pass for no reason from now on. If I die tonight, please don't ignore this post, so far my reads have been pretty on point.

If I live then pick this argument apart, tell me why Super is town. If you think I'm scum tell me why.

I think this game is solved.

Rels/Dis/Kita/Cake vs Vivax/FF/Onegu/Super

And yes this means I think GB is gunna flip town.

And on BTW.
Best post I have ever read.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
February 04 2016 16:25 GMT
#5756
Obi mvp.
Retired.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 04 2016 16:26 GMT
#5757
On February 05 2016 01:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Obi mvp.

I found your play D1 extremely sexy. A shame you picked an awesome + kinda mysterious role, that sealed your fate. =D
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-13 21:15:29
June 13 2018 21:12 GMT
#5758
e: wrong thread
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