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No I was talking about Tubesock. We all know what you've had to say :p | ||
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On January 11 2016 11:03 GiygaS wrote: Wine In Front Of Me Offtopic but this is the best reenactment of mafia meta of all time lololol | ||
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On January 12 2016 04:35 Koshi wrote: Tube. You ever saw a mafia with reads that were so wild & inconsistent? And then not be able to get the lynch off mafia boxerfred while you had 4 votes on you and boxer had 3 votes? Why would he spare you and go to Kush when he knew I would never lynch Kush and would always lynch boxer? Yea idk why Rayne wouldn't continue the Tubesock wagon when he was up by a vote with less than 2(?) hours to go before the vote. If Rayne were mafia, why would he switch to Noonian when he had a solid wagon on you Tubesock? | ||
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On January 12 2016 05:58 VayneAuthority wrote: I will write my quick thoughts incase I am vigged, don't want to invest too much time obviously when its super possible ill just die. The most likely mafia I can deduct from voting analysis and a follow up of his filter is darthfoley You will see that Tubesock was most likely the mafia mislynch of choice, kinda sure he is town. When the 2nd vote drops onto boxerfred, tubesock is sitting at 3 votes. starting to get close. then darthfoley goes ahead and votes for tubesock to make it a comfortable 4-2. But what you can't account for as mafia is a last second large swing like that resulting in boxer's lynch. It is a very suspicious and well timed vote on his part. Follow that up with gems like this from his filter See part 2, boxerfred literally has almost no filter besides 1 post. He hasn't looked through any of the less active posters but says boxerfred is a shining example of being holistic? Soft defense that you wouldn't technically even realize you are doing as a mafia partner. Now look through his voting pattern, he flip flops on me and tubesock at the slightest change of wind to try to appear as if he is mulling his options but really he doesnt care that either of us is lynched, they are both mislynches for him. Thread support was the only thing that ever swayed his opinion. Finally, this is more of tells for me instead of mafia play but his first page is a lot of feigning ignorance with mechanics of the game to generate filter and even tells us about stuff he is doing irl which I largely associate with mafia attempting to lighten mood/make them appear more likable. cya at deadline Maybe. It's true that I have flip flopped between quite a few names in the thread. I voted for Koshi near the beginning and quickly realized he was almost as town as rayne. It's true that I went back and forth between you and Tubesock for basically the rest of the day phase; I've explained why. My suspicion of you was mainly driven by my first point in the post you quoted, before I had looked at your filter of D1 for the past two games. I trust Rayne to be town, plus he's played games with you before so I was ultimately willing to see your posts in N1/D2. Regarding Tubesock, it's not like my suspicion of Tubesock emerged out of thin air with a couple hours left in the day phase. I hadn't liked his first substantive post and ultimately I felt like Tubesock didn't have much of a case against Giygas past the one we debunked. On January 11 2016 07:29 darthfoley wrote: I think he implied questioning your reads and their ease when he said that I said all there needs to be said (because I questioned your easy reads) I thought Tubesock was starting to sway discussion the way he wanted, and I feel like active mafia posters are more dangerous than someone who is lurking D1 because everyone tends to be suspicious of them anyways (e.g. my suspicion of you). If Tubesock was the mafia mislynch of choice, why would I stay on him after it was clear that it wouldn't go through? It would've made more sense to switch to Noonian, or GiygaS who already had 2. Regarding my your tells: I opened with one sentence about watching The Revenant and later one question about the role of the Named VT. You can say i'm feigning ignorance but I just haven't ever played a game with a Named VT before. Other than that, the only non substantive questions I've asked have been about in game abbreviations. Sorry I didn't know what WIFOM means? | ||
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On January 12 2016 07:05 Eden1892 wrote: Updated thoughts from everybody's favorite townie. I think Tubesock is town. I am not sure if GiygaS is town or mafia. Very willing to entertain that the argument was between two townies, am 100% sure it wasn't two mafia. If this isn't obvious to anyone at this point, I can elaborate, but I think Tubesock's posting throughout this phase speaks for itself. He had a mediocre/bad start, but that doesn't mean very much, and his recovery has me sold. + Show Spoiler [For Eden] + Don't bother reading this, I was gonna do this but then I saw the stuff about darthfoley and found more interesting stuff to talk about. Typing all this with html tags was a bitch so I'm keeping this here for later. Following from that, some vote count analysis. I'm filling in my reads as green and flipped boxerfred as red. I will keep my reads limited to the ones I think are uncontroversial so as to limit the number of leaps needed to accept my premises. Vote Count (16.5 hours) Tubesock (4): Eden1892, Koshi, GiygaS, darthfoley slOosh (2): GGTeMpLaR, VayneAuthority VayneAuthority (1): nooniansoong Koshi (1): boxerfred GiygaS (1): Tubesock (9.5 hours) Vote Count Tubesock (3): Koshi, GiygaS, darthfoley VayneAuthority (2): nooniansoong, slOosh GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892 slOosh (1): VayneAuthority Koshi (1): boxerfred boxerfred (1): GGTeMpLaR nooniansoong (1): Raynpelikoneet (1.5 hours) Unofficial Vote Count Tubesock (3): Koshi, GiygaS, Raynpelikoneet VayneAuthority (2): nooniansoong, slOosh GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892 boxerfred (2): GGTeMpLaR, mderg slOosh (1): VayneAuthority Koshi (1): boxerfred (1 hour) Official Vote Count Tubesock (4): Koshi, GiygaS, Raynpelikoneet, darthfoley boxerfred (3): GGTeMpLaR, mderg, slOosh GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892 VayneAuthority (1): nooniansoong slOosh (1): VayneAuthority Koshi (1): boxerfred (Final) Final Vote Count boxerfred (3): GGTeMpLaR, slOosh, Koshi Tubesock (2): GiygaS, darthfoley GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892 nooniansoong (2): raynpelikoneet, mderg VayneAuthority (1): nooniansoong slOosh (1): VayneAuthority Koshi (1): boxerfred darthfoley: What changed in between these posts for you? You retracted your vote on Tubesock about 6.5 hours before the lynch, saying that you were satisfied with Tubesock's defense of himself. You even felt that your argument on Vayne was better for the matter, since it didn't try to resolve a confusing situation between GiygaS and Tubesock. But then just a few hours later, you say that because Vayne is "consistently not substantive as town" on D1, you're back to voting Tubesock? Even though you were satisfied with his defense? What changed is that I went back and looked at Tubesock vs. GiygaS again. As GiygaS pointed out, Tubesock had basically only provided one read of substance (exluding posts like, "I like darth because his posts feel towny") the entire day: GiygaS. I also realized that his case of GiygaS regarding "our reads are the same but he says it's weird" is actually quite easily explained... because my original post that GiygaS quoted explained his reasoning in full. My satisfaction with his defense lessened after this. I backed off of VA because I trusted Rayne's read on him and wanted to see his substantive reads post EoD1. I don't agree with his conclusion but I understand why Rayne adamantly wanted him a part of N1/D2 discussion. Again, I could've easily switched my vote to Noonian or GiygaS to counter the boxerfred bandwagon if I were desperate EoD1 mafia, especially Noonian because their filters were similar in substance. | ||
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On January 12 2016 07:48 Eden1892 wrote: So you reread Tubesock's posts, after your unvote, and found that Tubesock had only given one read all day? That's odd. How much reading did you really do? Because before you even unvoted, Tubesock had plenty to say about other people in the game: I also question that you went back and reread the initial case Tubesock gave, as if you had, you would have noticed that GiygaS did not quote you in his original post. Tubesock filled in the posts from you to explain his case. Would you care to resolve these discrepancies? I said he only posted one read of substance. Regarding the reads you quoted, I explained at the time that it didn't make sense to consider Noon more towny than Rayne at that point in the game. I think being "onboard" for boxerfred or Kmatt is pretty safe at that point in the voting process, especially because at this time it was 4 to 3 for Tubesock vs. Boxerfred. Would've been tied 4/4 if he changed from GiygaS to Boxerfred. Boxerfred hadn't been very active and you would get lots of town cred if you supported a correct lynch day 1. I mean we've already confirmed town everyone who voted for Boxerfred, so losing an inactive mafia isn't the end of the world if it basically makes you an unlynchable for a while. However, people then jumped off the Tubesock wagon and he didn't need to do this, while still getting towncred for being "okay" with a boxerfred lynch and consistency for sticking with GiygaS. GiygaS didn't directly quote me, but he basically did "not much more to say on him that darth already hasn't" | ||
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