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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
On December 08 2015 21:37 Rels wrote: You re the one that bought up disfo saying game is hard I'm pretty sure. When I read that I thought it was town indicative. Ehhhhhhhhh it could be very slightly town indicative, but idk really. Easy to say from either alignment, and can have the effect of making town demoralised. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
Please vote DYH and let's lynch scum. I hope that's enough to make you (yes, you, reading this) switch; read his filter and understand why. Hints: - what is his only strong read ? Did it start after a replacement of someone special to HTS ? Could scum know NM would push HTS regardless of NM's alignement ? - how strong is his other reads compared to his main one ? - what evolution his NM read take ? - is he doing nothing while tons of people are townreading him and fighting each other ? | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
##Vote DoYouHas | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
Why James aka Fidei86 is Mafia this game! 1. Past Experience: Granted I only played around 3 games total with James on mafia forum but I had played with him voice too and in both type of mafia games if my memory is right on this: He never tried to policy lynch anyone as town(Himalayas). On December 04 2015 22:17 Fidei86 wrote: In terms of solving the game I think we need to focus on Alex/NM, Dani/HTS, LS and Trfel. I am convinced one or both of Alex/Dani is Mafia. I do not think LS is in any way cleared by EOD stuff (there was a big switch going on and he was actually already saved when he posted GG). I love LS, but I think even he would have to admit his play so far has been garbage. Trfel is all over the place, and several people have given reasons why he could be scum. His play style is v v different to anything I've come across before. THIS IS A BLANTANT LIE ABOUT THE BOLDED HE SAW I ACTED IN HIMALAYAS AND DRAMS PLUS SEASON OF THE WITCH 2 IN THOSE 3 GAMES I HAD A ROUGH DAY 1 START INTO THIS TYPE OF GAME. 2. His read progression: His reads were for the most part static. I can confirm he had very static reads in Season of the Witch 2 when he was scum. To illustrate his progression I will put all his read posts just bellow: + Show Spoiler + On December 03 2015 04:08 Fidei86 wrote: Town Shining - He was winning townie plaudits for his fight with Palmar, but rather than carry it on (and continuing to crap up the thread) he stopped (or at least tried to) and gave a good read post at #229. I like his read on dis, which I agree with. He asks Kush and Moosy to do more, at a stage where the better Mafia play would have been to ignore them and let town coalesce towards a "lynch all idiots" lynch. (Disclaimer: I previously called him out for not stopping the fight, but a re-read of his filter shows he was trying to stop it but Palmar wouldn't let it go.) Trfel - Rels is right, for someone with over 3k posts Trfel sure apologises a lot. He seems to have some sort of reason for his early LS read, which I don't really care about. I actually like is read on Rels "why is he just throwing shit everywhere." Maybe town side of null. His later posts show quite nuanced reasoning. Moved to town for now, otherwise mostly everyone would be null Dis - he and Trfel are playing similarly in my view. Both reading the thread, giving thoughts relatively fearlessly. Nothing that particularly jumps out as scummy. Lean read. Null Damdred - underwhelmed by his reads, which seem to mostly have been of Shining. Need to filter dive. No sense in lynching today. Damdred - whole filter is super underwhelming. Says he has town reads, but then just gives me and Shining without and further explanation. Lacklustre but posts come off as condescending. Scum side of null but wouldn't lynch yet. HTS - I am scared of a Mafia Dani, and that is probably colouring my read of her. One thing I'm not sure of is why she voted for DYH having just excoriated kush for his dumbass post about voting for Rels. Palmar - his entire first act was fighting with Shining. He made his point, and I agreed with it. But he kept pushing and pushing beyond when it was reasonable. I also didn't like that he called my first post "fine" and "null" but at another point said I was a "tow read". Says he doesn't want to lynch into me, then later says I'd be an okay lynch? Huh? I had him in Mafia, but his last few reads on Damdred and Rels - I'm all over the place on Rels. I've made the point that Mafia Rels tends to buddy harder than he is here. But in this game he seems to be talking in complete parallel to the thread, raising points others aren't but not engaging in the same sort of manner I would expect from a town Rels. But I actually really like his DYH read and vote. Mafia LS - his entry list was all nulls ("I need more time on Moosy" -- no shit!) and basic basic points that display no particular thought. #431 says the game is hard but hasn't really given a read on anyone? O Useless Kush - he is going to have to do a lot to get back from "not changing my Rels vote even though he might be town because changing votes is hard" Moosy - only sensible post is pushing Shining on his read of me. When he'd explained it like 8 times and I'd only made one post. DYH - Lots of town-reads and afk promises. Hardly encouraging. Was not really a fan of his Trfel read. Onegu. It's O-word dude. Hands up if you're surprised. That his first mega read post okay Seems to call Rels on a NAI item for him. On December 04 2015 06:43 Fidei86 wrote: I think this probably makes disfo town as well. Again potental NAI stuff but from dis this time around even thought dis never played as scum before. On December 04 2015 06:55 Fidei86 wrote: Also this. 0.0 didn't think of this this way, but pretty sure TS is town now. See a pattern yet? He handing town reads like candy for reasons that could be replicated from both sides. Plus his read progression on me throughtout was mainly me being scum until earlier this day phase he said he would just policy me. Hint: he never policy lynch people to my knowledge as town. Then he went back to saying I'm scum with no content really changed in that time frame. 3. His HTS distancing: I'll let this post from dis pretty much speak for itself: On December 08 2015 05:30 disformation wrote: Sry, this will probably end up being a rant on Fidei86's filter. Hm so while he was suspicious on HtS at the start he then moves to: I have a bit of trouble following his LS progression after that. Like he thinks LS is scum and then votes kush because kush's progression on LS (who he thinks is scum) is scummy? N1 he also moves back to HtS... Bold part for smiles.  After that he talks a bit about a possible LS/HtS team. Seems a bit focused on certain persons. But he admitted to that earlier. His probing of NM seems town. Does he vote LS? + Show Spoiler + nope Still waiting. Not sure how "quite a while" translates to "my last mention of him is like super early D2 with a town read", but at least he is looking at more ppl than HtS,NM,LS and Trfel now. So here we have a bunch of trees. Let mediate a bit on the forest though. Yes he was suspicious of HtS early on. Did he push her hard? No. He seemed very sure about LS being scum. Did he push him? No. Does he vote him? No. He is very focused on a small group on people. Maybe trying to pick one out of the misslynch list? The reads on those people are also kinda constant. Like the scum read on LS. Promised to look at DYH, did play dota instead. While I like his interactions with NM, interactions with other ppl seem to lack a bit. Did he actually push anyone so far? So I'd say his desire to solve the game doesn't seem to be very present. Possible vote candidate. The quote above pretty much showed he distanced himself from HTS after HTS had flipped scum. Conclusion: Pretty much LYNCH WITH FIRE BOYS! ##Vote:Fidei86 | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
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Rels
France13467 Posts
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
Rels, why are you so sure LS is town? #1745 : Remember that I did a mistake with the "why is he not voting LS thing" Can totes see DYH being a thing today. Will be here for reelz in about an hour. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On December 08 2015 22:31 disformation wrote: Not yet 100% here. I kinda liked DYH's case on me, but him doing a 180° (again) is kinda strange. I need to double check something on this... Rels, why are you so sure LS is town? #1745 : Remember that I did a mistake with the "why is he not voting LS thing" Can totes see DYH being a thing today. Will be here for reelz in about an hour. I had a post not a long time ago about it. A combination of LS yelling which he has never done as scum + HTS being OK with LS' lynch until 10 minutes before deadline, and then distancing herself from the lynch | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On December 08 2015 22:31 disformation wrote: Will be here for reelz in about an hour. Oh you (= | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
On December 08 2015 22:27 Rels wrote: Yo LS Imma let you finish but can you read DYH's filter and vote him I did make my case if you hadn't read it yet. Will read yours in a little bit but for now I rather lynch James. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
On December 08 2015 22:38 Rels wrote: I had a post not a long time ago about it. A combination of LS yelling which he has never done as scum + HTS being OK with LS' lynch until 10 minutes before deadline, and then distancing herself from the lynch Ah sry. Btw I was thinking about it for a moment, but I think I can add a bunch of points onto the case againt DYH. in super short: Didn't he say he'd look at my interactions with HtS? No word of that... probably didn't find anything to scum read me off, so he switched? Also if you apply the read technique he used on me and HtS on him and HtS, what do you get? (need to double check this to verify, but from the top of my hat): HtS parked him on a scum lean for most of D1, but didn't push/interact with him. Also voted a bunch of ppl that were not DYH. His only mention of her d1 is that she is middleground and he coudln't find aynthing in her filter. gotta run now, will verify and probably write a case when I am back. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On December 08 2015 23:00 LightningStrike wrote: Sheep me everybody. Lynch the Mafia James from these Town grounds! Tell me when you finished reading DYH's filter | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
vote is on DYH and I am going to write a case that will make you wish that your vote was as hot as mine. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
Full Case on DoYouHas Part 1: There are still a few unexplained holes in his D1 play Let me restate these things. 1.1 On December 03 2015 20:19 Rels wrote: [...]3. A total apathy towards the lynch Here are the two posts DYH made after coming back to EOD: DYH just didn't care about the lynch. The third post was only made after I tried to get people to vote him.[...] 1.2 On December 03 2015 08:15 disformation wrote: [...]His reason for voting LS: Last mention of me in his filter: So I am kinda asking myself where he got that magical TR on me from...[...] Part 2: His sudden HtS push/vote Despite having found nothing in HtS filter D1: On December 02 2015 14:14 DoYouHas wrote: Well reading the filters of my middleground group (Fid, HtS, LS, disfo) was significantly less productive than I had hoped. Gnight folks @LS - I would like to hear your feelings towards Palmar, Damdred, and Rels. He makes a case on her early N1, after NM is replaced in and says he is quite sure HtS is mafia. Sure he posted: On December 03 2015 10:37 DoYouHas wrote: Before you all get ahead of yourselves and this gets lost, lets take a look at Kush's filter and reads. Town reads on myself, trfel, and fid. Scum reads on Moosy and HtS. Convinced to lynch LS over Moosy. Seems pretty suspicious of Rels (#240 & #547) but doesn't really push him. Doesn't townread Palmar like many of us have (myself included). I think it is fair to say that he was at least townie-null on Damdred since it is Damdred's push on LS that got him to change his vote. - Conclusion: I need to reread HtS with the new knowledge of Kush and LS (I agree that the deadline post makes him very, very likely town). Just before NM came in. But that could just be a clever setup for the case. I mean he didn't really care about kush before the lynch and I can imagine HtS telling her teammates to bus her hard as soon as she sees NM replacing in. NM also said that she was at the PC at lynch time. So this plan could have been hatched as soon as like a few minutes after lunch time. Intermediate Part: A few strange posts here and there On December 04 2015 09:03 DoYouHas wrote: BTW, this is the second time everyone ends up agreeing with me and I'm still on most of the scumlists. -_- "Can I has my town cred plx?" On December 06 2015 02:53 DoYouHas wrote: Damdred Reread Palmar- believes he is town through most of the day. Becomes a little less convinced before he dies, but still a townread. Shining- Townread Rels- Townread, thinks he has a penchant for tunneling. LS- He believes the EoD D1 makes LS town. Trfel- Town that is wrong. Spends a lot of time trying to figure trfel out and waivers a lot. Fid- Townread early, likes what he has to say but is suspicious of him for activity/meta reasons. Disfo- Townread but not part of the "Strong town circle" DYH- Liked me early, didn't mention me much, but was ok with shifting to me or kush at EoD. So, null/scumlean. Moosy- Null - Where Damdred overlaps with Kush is the townread on Fid, and that is about it. "Look I am even doing stuff!" Part 3: His scum read on me Again he does a 180° on me out of nowhere. Note that The Shining started to scum read me a while before, so the 2nd time DYH makes a case on someone already under suspicion. The opens up with a classy post on top of the deadline indicating I might be scum: On December 07 2015 08:00 DoYouHas wrote: Looking at HtS's filter I have a couple of thoughts. 1. I am very wrong about Trfel, he is town. 2. Disfo may not be the townie that I thought he was. There are a few things that look off to me between him and HtS. 3. The NM bus theory of Trfel may not be far-fetched. HtS was soft defending moosy. Will elaborate assuming I live. Pretty good bet. Saying things between me and HtS look kinda off. On December 07 2015 09:20 DoYouHas wrote: So this analysis is very similar to votecount, but it is based off of lists that a scum player makes. Every scum player I have ever played with will include at least 1 scum-mate on lists that they make. Here is HtS's first list: + Show Spoiler + On December 01 2015 09:31 Half the Sky wrote: Hey everyone. A few thoughts on my end before I head to bed - Nulls on Rels/Damdred regarding setup discussion/speculation as I feel those are types of posts that can be made as either alignment (and such Rels' scumreads on Do and Damdred could also fall under the same category) by players who know general gameplay well enough. Trfel's comments on LS I have a mixed reaction on. I don't like the following phrasing and here's why: When I read this, I read it as trying to absolve responsibility from self regardless of actual intention (baiting in this case) - it's not what LS posted that is the problem, it's what you (Trfel) did about it. That reaction makes me think whether you are trying to cover something up. Moosy is something I am going to need more time reading given his general playstyle. No read on him so far obviously. disformation hasn't made any reads yets with the Trfel/Damdred interaction going on, and I think that might have been about when he left the thread. Answered Trfel's question, but from recalling the last student game, he did take more stances in that game. So far probable scumleans on Trfel/disformation. Fidei was someone who falls off hard as mafia, first post based on his SOTW 2 performance (mafia) is going to weigh in at NAI. The ONLY thing that jumps out at me from Fidei's post is why he commented on Rels being towny but Damdred not being so even though both talked about the setup, and Damdred seems to make more of a point in trying to get town to coalesence. Moving to Palmar/Shining... 1. Damdred, Rels, Moosy, Trfel, Disfo HtS's second, third, & lynch list: + Show Spoiler + On December 02 2015 04:27 Half the Sky wrote: I need to put my head down again since I'm still feeling pretty sick. Going to go through again Trfel/Damdred/Fidei/disformation etc. on a full re-read. I'm also having issues with town reads. Right now, I need to flesh out Trfel a little more, same for disformation and LS. The lynch list right now is kush/DYH, Onegu is straight policy, but there's got to be an active mafia somewhere. Palmar is probably town but this is a gut feel based on how he proceeded with the case. 2. Trfel, Damdred, Fid, Disfo 3. Trfel, Disfo, LS Lynch: DYH, Kush, Onegu(pure policy) HtS's fourth list: + Show Spoiler + On December 03 2015 04:48 Half the Sky wrote: I'm here. I am still really sick (and thanks for the well wishes all, I hope I will improve) but I'm going to try my best here to answer all the questions possible. The above is correct. This also partially helps answer Trfel's question to me - LS was not in my lynch list (and relative to the rest of the thread) because D1, similar to SOTW, if there's something that is not clicking I have to flesh his reads out. He was a scumlean based on the stuff he said, I hashed out to make sure I was understanding LS, and it was back to null pending the interactions with other people in the thread. There was a part where he mentioned Trfel casing Damdred (and I still have to go back and look at that, Christ) which would give some indication as to Trfel/Damdred/LS alignments to some extent. Obviously need to catch up on the rest of his filter. Not lynching him until I read and feel otherwise. Trfel, I mentioned a post where I scumleaned you initially for the comment you made on LS. I made an explanation as to why, it was something along the lines of tone and not wanting to take responsibility. There was something else that you mentioned, you answered it, but if you answered that first concern, show me the post where you did. There's a very good chance I missed it. Again, I failed to analyse you v Damdred. DYH over kush - It was part read on Trfel and part lack of followup on Trfel at that time when he commented on Shining/Palmar, which I felt could have come from either alignment. Also I wanted to press him for more reads, and I recall I did that somewhere. Obviously need to check his filter again and see what he's done since. I know I did not scumread him on activity especially since it's my first game with him and I don't know offhand if he's a lurky player. In any instance, I put both in a lynch list and I gave my reasons for not liking kush. Also I think it was you Trfel, whoever it was said that scum doesn't know the setup. This is not true. Look at the day one post. There is a list of 4 setups so that is part of where my statement came from. Additional comments/followups from what I saw from skimming the thread: Rels - posting game details has to be done regardless of whatever else games I'm playing. It either needed to be done when signups went up or very soon after. I was queued in, it had to get done. Take that as you will. Disformation - looking at your response to my last question right now, also did you have a question for me? You said a few times you were looking through my filter. Trfel - did you answer my questions regarding distinguishing activity between DYH and kush? (post 391, again if I missed it point it out) If you looked into Rels based on your last response to me, what did you think of him? (same deal if I missed it) Should hopefully be able to move forward after this. Let me see who is up for lynch and weigh in... 4. Trfel, DYH, Kush, Rels, Disfo - Ok. So she is putting Trfel and Disfo in pretty much all of her lists. By my above heuristic this makes one or both of them more likely to be mafia. However, take a look at her interactions with the people on her lists in her filter and see if any of them feel out of place compared to the others. Compared to her interactions with Trfel, Rels, Damdred and her suspicion of me and Kush, her interaction with Disfo is very bland, flat. She starts with vague scumlean but the rest of her interaction reads more like she is inviting him to interact with her for the sake of interacting. - I think the cross between these two methods is a pretty good reason to scumread Disfo. Please look into it yourselves. ##Vote: Disformation Then he does this post. I kinda like the approach, but it has the problem that it only looks into one direction. How did HtS treat me. I have zero influence and no clue what scum!HtS was planning. She was a coach in NSM17, where my town play was super bad D1 and N1. Maybe she was testing whether she could get me to start being overly defensive and set me up for a misslynch? Who knows? He then says: On December 07 2015 09:48 DoYouHas wrote: But you do bring up a good point. I need to look into this from your side of things. Will filter you after dinner stuff. Which never happend. In his next post he does another 180° on me: On December 08 2015 14:17 DoYouHas wrote: Soooooo, my reason for townreading Trfel apparently is bad. It is association based on his interactions with HtS. I've been looking at his last scum game. If I was playing, I would never have picked up on anything odd between him and Breshke. So confused... This weakens my argument against Disfo as well, even if my initial assumption was true. ##Unvote My to-do before the deadline is to reread the cases on Trfel and Fid, read Fid's filter and decide the more likely scum. So... he sees ppl are not willing to vote me, realizes his one way association thing isn't great and does remove his vote. Though I am not 100% sure how reading Trfel's last game does weaken his stuff on me enough to unvote. Further explanation would be great. Conveniently he chooses two ppl that are suspected by a lot of ppl as his next targets. How does that wrap up in the big picture This part may be a bit WIFOMY, but in my head it makes incredible sense atm. Day 1 he sees that we have a lot of lynch bait around. He does try to get away with the least bit of work and votes whoever. NM gets replaced in, the scum team decides that max bussing for max town cred is the best strategy here. Since his D1 didn't look to great, he goes with for the cred with an early case. N2 he sees the case from The Shining on me. He decides to push me, too in the hopes of setting up the ML. Later he comes back to see, that no one is voting me, but can't find solid evidence to push me further. So he does an other 180° on me and tries to switch to easier targets. Conclusion Hand me a lighter, cause imma lynch this with fire. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
I felt like he was trying a bit more to actually solve the game earlier today, so I feel a bit better about him. So. Switch to DYH, k? | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
why in the bloody hell are we voting DoYouHas? Trfel is 1000% more likely to flip mafia. and LS' case on Fidei is beyond awful. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On December 08 2015 22:18 LightningStrike wrote: Why James aka Fidei86 is Mafia this game! 1. Past Experience: Granted I only played around 3 games total with James on mafia forum but I had played with him voice too and in both type of mafia games if my memory is right on this: He never tried to policy lynch anyone as town(Himalayas). THIS IS A BLANTANT LIE ABOUT THE BOLDED HE SAW I ACTED IN HIMALAYAS AND DRAMS PLUS SEASON OF THE WITCH 2 IN THOSE 3 GAMES I HAD A ROUGH DAY 1 START INTO THIS TYPE OF GAME. 2. His read progression: His reads were for the most part static. I can confirm he had very static reads in Season of the Witch 2 when he was scum. To illustrate his progression I will put all his read posts just bellow: + Show Spoiler + On December 03 2015 04:08 Fidei86 wrote: Town Shining - He was winning townie plaudits for his fight with Palmar, but rather than carry it on (and continuing to crap up the thread) he stopped (or at least tried to) and gave a good read post at #229. I like his read on dis, which I agree with. He asks Kush and Moosy to do more, at a stage where the better Mafia play would have been to ignore them and let town coalesce towards a "lynch all idiots" lynch. (Disclaimer: I previously called him out for not stopping the fight, but a re-read of his filter shows he was trying to stop it but Palmar wouldn't let it go.) Trfel - Rels is right, for someone with over 3k posts Trfel sure apologises a lot. He seems to have some sort of reason for his early LS read, which I don't really care about. I actually like is read on Rels "why is he just throwing shit everywhere." Maybe town side of null. His later posts show quite nuanced reasoning. Moved to town for now, otherwise mostly everyone would be null Dis - he and Trfel are playing similarly in my view. Both reading the thread, giving thoughts relatively fearlessly. Nothing that particularly jumps out as scummy. Lean read. Null Damdred - underwhelmed by his reads, which seem to mostly have been of Shining. Need to filter dive. No sense in lynching today. Damdred - whole filter is super underwhelming. Says he has town reads, but then just gives me and Shining without and further explanation. Lacklustre but posts come off as condescending. Scum side of null but wouldn't lynch yet. HTS - I am scared of a Mafia Dani, and that is probably colouring my read of her. One thing I'm not sure of is why she voted for DYH having just excoriated kush for his dumbass post about voting for Rels. Palmar - his entire first act was fighting with Shining. He made his point, and I agreed with it. But he kept pushing and pushing beyond when it was reasonable. I also didn't like that he called my first post "fine" and "null" but at another point said I was a "tow read". Says he doesn't want to lynch into me, then later says I'd be an okay lynch? Huh? I had him in Mafia, but his last few reads on Damdred and Rels - I'm all over the place on Rels. I've made the point that Mafia Rels tends to buddy harder than he is here. But in this game he seems to be talking in complete parallel to the thread, raising points others aren't but not engaging in the same sort of manner I would expect from a town Rels. But I actually really like his DYH read and vote. Mafia LS - his entry list was all nulls ("I need more time on Moosy" -- no shit!) and basic basic points that display no particular thought. #431 says the game is hard but hasn't really given a read on anyone? O Useless Kush - he is going to have to do a lot to get back from "not changing my Rels vote even though he might be town because changing votes is hard" Moosy - only sensible post is pushing Shining on his read of me. When he'd explained it like 8 times and I'd only made one post. DYH - Lots of town-reads and afk promises. Hardly encouraging. Was not really a fan of his Trfel read. Onegu. It's O-word dude. Hands up if you're surprised. That his first mega read post okay Seems to call Rels on a NAI item for him. On December 04 2015 06:43 Fidei86 wrote: I think this probably makes disfo town as well. Again potental NAI stuff but from dis this time around even thought dis never played as scum before. On December 04 2015 06:55 Fidei86 wrote: Also this. 0.0 didn't think of this this way, but pretty sure TS is town now. See a pattern yet? He handing town reads like candy for reasons that could be replicated from both sides. Plus his read progression on me throughtout was mainly me being scum until earlier this day phase he said he would just policy me. Hint: he never policy lynch people to my knowledge as town. Then he went back to saying I'm scum with no content really changed in that time frame. 3. His HTS distancing: I'll let this post from dis pretty much speak for itself: The quote above pretty much showed he distanced himself from HTS after HTS had flipped scum. Conclusion: Pretty much LYNCH WITH FIRE BOYS! ##Vote:Fidei86 (1) no. that bolded sentence refers to Trfel, not you (2) terrible. you are meta reading him off one game. static reads in of themselves do not make someone mafia. static reads with changing circumstances might though someone mafia, excepting jusitification. Fidei is updating reads. this makes me very suspicious of you. kushm4sta even argued you were using shitty meta to make your pushes day 1. this is so wrong I really don't understand how this could possibly be coming from a town standpoint. (3) more parroting and like I said before not really adding anything of value to the game. why aren't you looking at his final two pages of filter? why are YOUR reads not changing? why is his activity from last night making him mafia? explain in terms of that. | ||
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