Dark Tournament Mini Mafia - Page 7

On December 04 2015 23:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Ugh I couldn't be assed to be coached esp in my last scum where I got coached by Bill to lynch WGS(wherebugsgo) O_o
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486363-witchcraft-mini-mafia-iii?user=LightningStrike
here are more scum games you can check and some town games for you to check out Alex:
Scum games:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471489-student-mafia-iv-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/476732-jack-of-all-trades-mafia?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486363-witchcraft-mini-mafia-iii?user=LightningStrike
Some town games:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483087-newbie-student-mafia-viii?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/487093-mafia-in-the-himalayas?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?user=LightningStrike
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?user=LightningStrike

On December 05 2015 00:34 Rels wrote:

How the fuck did you get these links in 2 minutes.

On December 05 2015 00:38 disformation wrote:


So Palmar has magical appearing links and DYH has magical appearing and disapearing reads, do I sense a connection here? :D

On December 05 2015 00:41 Rels wrote:

The part about me is false. I made multiple cases as scum in Drams, in which you were playing.

On December 05 2015 00:49 NocturneMage wrote:
and 2/3s of LS' post is (poorly explained) meta. Someone kill me please. And I see Rels is shooting part of that down already.

Why is Palmar town in your own words?

On December 05 2015 07:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
Lol i will be at work soon I'm kidding myself if i think I'm gonna do stuff when fallout is staring at me in the face

On December 05 2015 10:01 disformation wrote:


np, dude.

Hmm... his first post this game has like more reads than his whole D1 in Drams?
Though he posts a very similar post a bit later in Drams. Didn't he arrive a bit late in the thread this game?

Otherwise with looking at the context of Drams (117 pages D1, not reading that), I don't see any glaring differences in his posts, when compared to this. He has a pretty conversationalist style and doesn't seem to do cases, so from just reading his filter it is not easy to see the entire process. If you think I missed something, please feel free to point that out.

On December 05 2015 10:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
yo LS you were sad that I brushed you off before what've you got for me

On December 05 2015 10:15 Fecalfeast wrote:

didn't do it, who again?

On December 05 2015 10:24 Fecalfeast wrote:

i only really commented on the palmar/fidei interaction but I think the lack of HTS + the lack of any real resistance to the HTS lynch means this is probably a full-steam-ahead bus situation. I think that trfel has been acting strange but outside of what I've already said I've not read much further into him. I think you're a little to focused on yourself, LS and would like to see sme reads from you.

On December 05 2015 00:04 LightningStrike wrote:
BTW James I did say some of my treads throughout my filter but here is a list if you really need one -_-
Town:
Palmar: Meta says town for him here with his push on Shining look exactly like he did to me in Metal Mini
FF: Lazy FF is normally town FF from what I remember but I want him to do more work
Rels: He actually put out some cases mainly his case on FYH seems to stick out to me a little and when he was scum I don't remember him casing multiple people O_o
Shining: His responses and his questioning seem like Town Shining this game.
Tfrel: He did try to case people yes but he done it as scum but he seem much more serious tone here but I should prob check the scum game that some of you guys said this similar to his play there.
NM: He went super tryhard right out of the gates but my only issue with him like Rels said is that he not as analyical as I remember him being.
Null:
HTS: Some of her content seems questionable but she not feeling exactly well either but I willing to give her another day for now to have her feel better and post again.
James: It might be a long time but I don't think I ever seen james get so tunneled on me ever O_o But his content is okay.
Scum:
DYH His read progression is very weird like it doesn't feel natural. Plus some of stuff seems like it adds little value.
If I missing anyone let me know.

On December 05 2015 11:07 Fecalfeast wrote:

could you expand upon your DYH read since we're talking about him right now?

On December 06 2015 00:20 NocturneMage wrote:
Taking a look at LS's latest bit of reads to see if they are actually "better" or moving the game forward. I'm going to pretend for a second he might be a townie who is smoking a bit too much weed/insane/whatever and I'm going to ignore any meta he brings up.

(I'm also going to pretend that HTS doesn't exist in this game, except for his read, for a second since I've drawn a lot of association betwen the two.)

Palmar - he could have just stopped with push on Shining, It's an incomplete read at best or him townreading Palmar for entirely the wrong reasons. end of day I realise is a clusterfuck but Palmar's end of day play has jumped at a few people. In a previous response, LS did say to me that he did help build the direction on kush, granted though I heavily disagreed with that reason being towny. the reason he told me again was overexplanation which a) was parroting palmar and b) that explanation wasn't that wordy, and not even scummy. I actually agreed with Palmar on kush plus people were moving to him so it made it easier for me to just switch to him.

FF - that read I don't know if it's semantics "lazy FF means no agenda FF" or "lazy FF means give no fucks FF" or whatever or just that he cannot be arsed to solve the game, well you could argue that for scum but him asking FF to do more work also makes no sense here - if he's that sure in meta land that lazy FF is town FF then asking him to do work would put him where? he's already town? what is the purpose of that read? it's posting just to post.I just wanted to work so I can see what he's thinking obviously. Have a second opinion on stuff is always helpful in the game of mafia

Rels - going to stop after the word "little" since everything after that is (yawn) meta. Case on FYH might be "good" yeah but does he make an easy townread like others might have agreed on or was it just an honest conclusion? It's a honest conclusion I thought the case okay and disformation mentioned that DYH ead progression was weird and man was he right. So I kinda leaning on him for now but idk how many other people would switch to him if we don't lynch HTS

Shining - this is largely the same conclusion I came to. Other people came to it well before obviously. I can see both sides. Scum LS would just copy this read from others who have determined it, and town LS would have done like me and read his filter and come to the same thing. I was there during some of the argument and had read the rest during catchups hence how I got my shining read

Trfel - don't like this read either. Last game, with scummy cases on Fecalfeast and Scott, the same tone was there, in LS' defence he might not be as informed. Did any of his play from day 1 having any bearing or re-evaluation? I'll admit I didn't play with Trfel for a little while because I took a break from mafia and didn't really follow the game you talked about.

The read on me - again, parroting or honest conclusion? "he's not as analytical" - okay fine, ignore my read on HTS, what about my reads now on other people?

HTS - so content is questionable? what content was questionable? did he probe her on anything? did he do anything about it? knowing the people pushing hts - fidei (at least softly?), dyh, myself, alright none of them are particularly high on his totem pole, great. But why isn't he taking the lead to find that out himself? he mentioned her illness but I countered against him last night that illness is not alignment indicative, and even by his own admission he said in his filter "oh shit I didn't know that, she can do it" (close enough wording) so that should have given him the green light to just look at her content and solve. The only content I remember eing questionable was her EoD but that was it.

must......avoid.......association.......reads..........

Fidei - doesn't someone tunnelling you by definition make them town? His content is "okay" alright, so is his read on LS unusual in a scummy way? no? then why isn't he town, or if that read IS unusual, then why? doesn't that make him scum and want you to look into him more? again, where's the value either way? James knows me and shouldn't realy been scumreading me when he knows I do stuff the way I did this game as town which making me questioning his alignment

DYH - alright, so LS is townreading disformation and Rels, both of whom are pushing DYH. Explanation is largely parroting. same potential issue as some of the other reads previously mentioned. See my thing on Rels

the argument that LS' play is improving is false (figures trfel is making the argument) he brings nothing new to the table - lack of original thought is generally scum indicative, at least I can agree to disagree on town LS thinking Palmar is surely town based on end of cycle. he certainly hasn't done anything earth shattering or moved the game forward, and none of the FF/HTS/Fidei reads he has posted really make any sense from a town perspective.

On December 06 2015 01:43 LightningStrike wrote:
So TLDR about DYH/HTS would vote:
my prefer lynch is DYH if we can get people to vote him.