Student Mafia XVI

On October 14 2015 02:49 NocturneMage wrote:
actually separate question from all of this - I just realised the number of people that asked to cohost. is there some pre-requisite I'm not aware of? I have a few newbies on me...

it's mainly vote counts right?

On October 14 2015 10:30 sicklucker wrote:
Pms said it was some guy named sqrtofneg1, never heard of him

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/qFsHAmKZh4Te

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/C7EXB667Yk3i

On October 18 2015 05:13 Vonthin wrote:
glhf everyone. Just a reminder this is a game to have fun and not to get stressed out and emotional which I saw happen to some people(myself included) in the past newbie games I've played in.

I'm town and ready to hunt some scum. Just a reminder our goal isn't to live, its to hunt scum even if it costs us our lives in the process.

On October 18 2015 08:12 The Shining wrote:


Lol Y u so mad tho? Is it cuz of the last game scum loss followed by another scum roll here? Dun dun dun!

On October 18 2015 08:50 The Shining wrote:
Because I'm bored and no one is doing anything and half the game hasn't shown up. And I've been known to take things super seriously so I'm trying to break out of that and be lax this game.

So are you scum? Because that sounds like TMI. How would you know that it's actual townies that are doing the shitposting and causing chaos?

On October 18 2015 11:35 The Shining wrote:
And yay GB is trying to get the game started. Let's see...

I agree with the Farah read. I agree that that question would've been better off in the scumQT if she rolled scum and it is a WIFOM argument but the timing of it seemed genuinely curious and not holding back in her questioning of Moosy and GBs jokes is another town point. As far as the tunneling goes, keeping in mind she's a newer player, I could understand the hesitance to look more broadly because she's being asked to do so by GB, who she suspected could be scum. I wouldn't want to cooperate with someone I think is scum, either.

Sigh. My openings are always horrendous, especially in town games. Thanks for noticing. The joke phase isn't something I've ever really been apart of and not something I'm a huge fan of, but seeing as how it was the only thing going on, I didn't want to just sit around and not post. I find it a little odd, though, that you pick on my horrendous opening but then find my Scott post very okay. I guess it makes sense if you still have me at null, though.

Moosy is pretty null to me right now. His banter is NAI to me and the picking a meta talk seemed like it was just more of him trying to keep the joke phase up but the longer he does things like that without actually scum hunting, the more I'll suspect him. I didn't like the threatening to not care, either, but knowing he has double bussed to win a game before(meaning he cared enough to do so) makes it NAI, as well.

Not sure about Kels, either. You might be right but before I go into it, I'd like to know if he was actually serious about that post. Kelsier can you answer this for me?

I'd like Vonthin to answer what I asked, too, before I go too in-depth on him but from what I've seen so far, he could just be frustrated town not knowing how to deal with a slow day start.

Overall I'd give GB a slight townlean just for making this post and trying to push discussion, as I agree with a few things in the post. GB what do you think of boxerfreds entrance? Why wasn't he included in your list?

On October 18 2015 21:32 GlowingBear wrote:


Dude, Kelsier, I've been trying to play a good game with you but you insist with this. I have a history of doing "stupid stunts" for some people, but I am playing a very straight forward game since the last one. So IF you're town, actually read my list instead of just saying it's classic GB with illogical reads, because they are far from illogical.

If you have actually read it you would realise I was commenting ONLY on people that had posted, so point (A) doesn't make sense. Point (B): it's a post where I share my vision of what has been posted so far and I ask players to bounce their reads on it. You see, I've seen a lot of alignment indicstive behaviours - which you fail to realise/discuss just to base a read on a joke phase. And the joke phase wasn't even that long. I started playing the exact moment the game started, and you should see it if you actually read my filter.

If you're town, please, play the game. If not, die.

##Vote: KelsierSC

On October 18 2015 20:59 Rels wrote:

"GB's read of me is wrong, as usual. In fact, all his reads are illogical, as usual. Oh BTW, he's scum."
Does. Not. Compute. He's talking about GB as if he's town and wrong, but he's scumreading him.


KSC: Please expand.

On October 18 2015 21:32 LoneMeow wrote:
GlowingBear is top town for me right now, not only did he get the game to move on from the "joke" phase but there's also this:



This is town thinking.



As for the FarahBlackwing, there's a paranoid scenario I can see where the whole thing was orchestrated in advance but that's not relevant for now, I suppose. Unflipped players and all that.





Why wouldn't he make a list post? Some reads are needed to get the "serious" phase of the game started, I don't quite see that list post being scum motivated at all.




So the read is wrong (ie. he's town misreading) but you'd want to lynch him (ie. he's scum)? What?

On October 18 2015 21:48 GlowingBear wrote:


What was trash and pointless in it?
Please point out the flaws.

On October 18 2015 21:49 LoneMeow wrote:


If his read on you is wrong then you are clearly implying he's town. Scum doesn't have "right" or "wrong" reads.

On October 18 2015 21:53 LoneMeow wrote:


Okay, so why exactly is he scum? Why was the list post bad at the time it was made, besides being a list post? To me it seems much more like town mentality to try to get the game moving in a more serious direction after the "joke phase" as some call it.

On October 18 2015 21:58 LoneMeow wrote:


I'm interested in your alignment, and you explaining your though process and logic helps in that.

On October 18 2015 22:07 GlowingBear wrote:


Having nulls doesn't mean it is flawed. Do you agree/disagree with any of my impressions on that list?

You didn't point out how terrible the opening was. You scum read people for it. Strangely enough, you based your scum read on the same joke phase you accuse me of basing my scum reads.

On October 18 2015 22:06 LoneMeow wrote:


Vote is also a tool to provoke reactions.

Why do you not want to help me figure out your alignment?

On October 18 2015 22:56 Rels wrote:

Are you serious bro.
1 - The explanation is in my post: "GB's read of me is wrong, as usual. In fact, all his reads are illogical, as usual. Oh BTW, he's scum."
2 - You didn't answer the interesting part:

On October 18 2015 23:03 GlowingBear wrote:
Who is mafia with scott, Kelsier?

On October 18 2015 23:10 Rels wrote:

Assuming you're talking about this:


That is not true. He pointed out things for each of his reads that made sense. And he left out the people he had nothing to say about.

On October 19 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels is town. Gut read right off the bat.

On October 19 2015 01:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm also all up for a scott lynch. Rels noticing that scott did an abrupt 180 change in direction on reading my joke opener was good.

On October 19 2015 02:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:

It's pretty exciting don't you think? My initial gut reads on Rels have led me to scum read him in the past 2 games where he was scum but I always ignored them because of what everyone else said. Now that my initial gut read is town that means I can hard town read him without a doubt. Hm...maybe a bit later down the line, but not for now.

Also, I do believe that finding town is just as important as finding scum so that I can prevent mislynches and create my standard townie circle early on.

My thoughts on your question? I think it's garbage! ^-^

On October 19 2015 02:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:

There was a question implied in it because you were addressing the statement to me than to everyone else so I responded.

But that's semantics which I enjoy debating anyway. But for the sake of everyone else who dislikes spam, I think I'll just end the conversation here.

-snip-

On October 19 2015 02:19 KelsierSC wrote:
for an actual question, what's your opinion of the new guy, vonthin?

On October 19 2015 02:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:

null. I thing someone brought something up about him which I need to look back for.

On October 18 2015 09:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:

As a continuation of this, what alignment do you think people are so far?

On October 18 2015 12:50 Vonthin wrote:
My reads so far:

Town:

Scott-No shitposts, most of his posts are good questions

Farah- Not much to read on but I've like what I've seen so far

Glowingbear-Besides some of the banter with Moosy his posts look pro town to me, raising good points and asking good questions especially to myself

Shining - See no problems with his filter cept he went with the funny opening for too long

Boxer- Not much for me to go on, asked Mooser to stop shitposting was nice but I feel like the limited time thing is an excuse I have seen scum use often. More of a null read but 2 lazy to make a category just for him since he is the only one besides the 4 who haven't posted

Scum

Mooser- Lots of shitposting and spamming posts without any substance. This post still bothers me, even if you are town and want to spam non stop you still should care about looking town which makes things easier for the rest of us



Fecalfeast - His first post was not a good way to start imo, second one doesn't tell me anything earlier though I do have some sympathy for the allergies.

Kelseir - His posts were all fluff and negative for the most part


Anyways its bed time

On October 19 2015 02:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
which is why exactly he's a null. i gave him a town lean earlier and now he's a null. ??

On October 19 2015 02:50 scott31337 wrote:


This is a good point - but he mentioned nothing about LoneMeow which I would think he'd have a read on.

Eversince still has not posted, either.

I'll be on and off watching american football and playing here.

On October 18 2015 07:35 scott31337 wrote:


Just was making sure - Thank you.

To Shining on the GB read - a bit of meta (I've guessed him correctly the last three games) - a bit of playfulness and making sense.
I mean I didn't like Kelsier's entrance persay either, but I was going to wait until later in the day to see if he shows up. I didn't see anything else really worth pointing out when I read the thread.

On October 19 2015 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:


The response is adequate enough lol. I have him down as a null from my town read earlier. Don't know why you have problems with it.

On October 19 2015 02:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:

huh? kSC, you do know that I'm not the type to exactly splurge everything that's on my mind? I clearly recall in my last game where I said something like that. But then again, you were scum there so perhaps you didn't make the effort to read it. mmm...I keep my developing reads to myself unless I'm trying to provoke a reaction or I'm certain about something.

On October 19 2015 03:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like yes, his list post struck an odd chord with me but I didn't take the time to fully look through it and I haven't gone through his filter yet so I'm not going to splurge out that I didn't analyze him fully but that he's dropped down to a null lol. The only reason why I'm sharing he's a null is because you asked. What more do you expect? hello?

On October 19 2015 03:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:

I shared some thoughts, other people shared some thoughts, I realized Vonthin didn't really extrapolate on most of the people that posted so I asked him for his thoughts on people. What he said didn't line up with most of what I think but it might just be a case of newbie so I dropped him to a null in my mind, and am now checking the thread in between Splegg queues. Any other questions?

On October 19 2015 03:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:

This line of questioning is kind of dumb kSC. Like lol I'm doing other things right now but do you want me to go back and look through Vonthin again at your command? I'm checking in to respond to questions right now but smh.

On October 19 2015 03:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:

So you're expecting me to do something that I don't care to at the moment? I'm sorry but TL isn't more important to me than winning games of Splegg.

On October 19 2015 03:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:

I just got back and I'm playing splegg. I didn't check in the meantime of however long I last posted.

On October 19 2015 03:21 scott31337 wrote:


She, actually - played in the Student Mafia game before this one, was pretty obvtown. Unsure if she's AFK and had things to do, or having problems entering the thread. I go over the list to make sure I don't forget about people.



I am unsure which part you mean so I'll break it all down. I wanted Moosy to explain his vote on GB, and he did so. I know all about the shit double bus very well.

The GB reading still holds for me and is still a town lean.

You have looked a little better since your entrance - I mean FF hasn't done anything either - and your point about Moosy you pointed out I liked.

On October 18 2015 20:28 Rels wrote:

REALLY BRO ? YOU REMARKED HE WAS JOKING AND YOU WERE JUST MAKING SURE ??? THAT S EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT READING YOUR POSTS. NOT.

On October 19 2015 03:21 scott31337 wrote:
She, actually - played in the Student Mafia game before this one, was pretty obvtown. Unsure if she's AFK and had things to do, or having problems entering the thread. I go over the list to make sure I don't forget about people.

On October 19 2015 05:22 Eversince wrote:


If postin' filler and picking fights to muck up the thread is playing the game... I guess

On October 19 2015 05:26 Eversince wrote:


Then getting into a fight with Moosy himself? Some traffic cop...

On October 19 2015 04:53 The Shining wrote:
Honestly, outside of Rels admittedly good points RE: Scott, I don't really like his catch up posts. He starts off picking on my entrance(just like GB did) and then goes on to say GB might be Mafia. If so, why did he have the same train of thought as him? Then he asks SL for his thoughts on GB, meaning he wants to try and flesh out his scumread of GB. Then he picks on another of my posts which is whatever because I know I always play weird D1s but considering I was looking for Vonthins reaction to that post, I don't like him painting a narrative of me being in a scum mentality. Especially since we rolled scum together recently and he should know that isn't my style.

Then he follows up with GB is probably town for his tryhard post. After saying he might be Mafia, and trying to flesh it out with SL, he says he is town off of one post and leaves it alone. Even goes so far as to make a lynch list including myself on it and throws GB on the town list, then asks GB what he thinks of SL? Why is he trying to throw these two against each other instead of asking anyone else? And he completely abandoned his scumread on GB to accept him as town with no interaction, just a post he saw.

On October 19 2015 05:50 The Shining wrote:


But then why ask GB and SL what they think of each other at different points instead of asking them about anyone else? Even me? Since he found at least two "bad" posts of mine, why wouldn't he ask them what they thought of me? It felt like he was trying to drive them against each other. I don't see a town motivation behind that.

On October 19 2015 05:53 Eversince wrote:


Why ask this and not just tell me? I mean it's pretty obvious I'd like to know.
It's important for Farah, because you haven't done it at all yet.
When I made my first post on you, you had 3 post. 2 completely filler post followed with that.

On October 19 2015 06:02 The Shining wrote:


Makes sense but now I'm sad it isn't coming from him. Because he can just agree with what you said now lol. But why not ask your townread for an opinion on someone who's posts you thought were bad? I'd prefer he answered that

On October 19 2015 06:02 Fecalfeast wrote:

Damn, what a filler post. How have I been so blind?

+ Show Spoiler +

On October 19 2015 06:14 Eversince wrote:

Implied question

Forced rage for getting a response.


Rehashed to get mad because Moosy thought an implied question wasn’t a question? What is gained from it?


Asked question. Moosy answered. Obviously it wasn’t good enough for him but whatever, lets skip that for now.


Big post saying everything he’s already said again. We get it, you don’t like Moosy’s response, does that make Moosy mafia or not? Why or why not? Should be the next post. I’m pretty sure you should have accomplished the idea that your proddin’ at him isn’t getting you more. So the logical step is to think about if he has malicious motives for not disclosing it to you. Simple.


Crap, he says the same thing again instead!


Pointless post. Someone in the game. Obviously. Why make this post? You were prodding on scott before this if I remember correctly. Why not follow that here instead of asking about me?(if I am confusing Kelsier for another person here ignore the bit about talkin’ to scott.)

So this next post really has to be a conclusion on if Moosy is scum for not spillin’ the marbles right??!


What?! It’s not?! Instead we just get a rehashing of the same stuff again. Yeh friend, we got it, you don’t like his response!
Surely this next post will be it!


Rehashed like four times and you still don’t “have his story down”? Are you being for real right now?


Random prod that he already knows he’s not going to get more information from.


What?! All this and you don’t even give us the juicy part where you develop a read on him?


Oh wait! There’s more, almost like he wants to drag this out for as long as possible for no reason or somethin’!



What new is said in this post over the last 1600 of them? Same words, but at least he’ll be polite and wait. Even though he’s actually just being passive aggressive.


Reiterates Farah point. Pointless game advice. We do happen to have coaches this game for giving that.

This is just too much.

[b]##vote: KelsierSC

Big post saying everything he’s already said again. We get it, you don’t like Moosy’s response, does that make Moosy mafia or not? Why or why not? Should be the next post. I’m pretty sure you should have accomplished the idea that your proddin’ at him isn’t getting you more. So the logical step is to think about if he has malicious motives for not disclosing it to you. Simple.

On October 19 2015 06:44 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Everasince just a quick question why does it seem like you lack curiosity and just care about painting things as scummy without questioning?

On October 19 2015 07:11 Fecalfeast wrote:

What do you think of licksucker?

On October 19 2015 07:13 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Ok kelsier, do you have any interesting thoughts on anyone else?

On October 20 2015 01:51 Rels wrote:

Yes. People hiding when other people are fighting = mafia. Unlike you for example.
Shining had a few scummy posts, wasn't emotional when being scumread (unlike last game for example), and is useless (not doing anything while other people are fighting).
Vonthin said he was catching up 2 hours ago, came back with an excuse and is useless.
I would definitely lynch them both if deadline was right now. Maybe not over scott who was caught in a contradiction and is useless. But definitely over Eversince who is super scummy, but is not useless.

On October 20 2015 01:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I mean, I'll sheep whatever you guys want tbh. For D1 at least.

On October 20 2015 02:03 Vonthin wrote:
My thoughts on everyone now that I've read their filters.

Moosy- Slight scum read, I didn't like his opening spam shitpost crap, and some of the reason Rels brought up after I made my post the other night. He has some posts though where I can see town motivation but the useless posts outweigh them for me.


LoneMeow- I think he is town, I see clear motivation behind the things he is doing trying to get reads on people.


Sicklurker-Leaning slight scum on him, lots of fluff in his filter, I don't understand his Lonemeow vote, I don't see anything to go on besides him not posting a lot to make him scum.



Never said lol ez town read or that he was my top read just because I typed his read first in the list., He was just under my list for people who I thought were town for the time. I liked the posts he made and he had no fluff. My strongest town read at the time I made that list was GB. He seemed to made his opinions of me without reading my posts then read them and changed them after someone called him out on his and read them.


GB- Still town, I don't see any scum motivation behind his posts.


Boxer-- Null still, I understand his reasoning behind his cases but I don't agree with most of them. Has some fluff here and there and his posts/opinions vary so I don't really understand him.


Scott-Besides not posting a lot, his posts still read town to me. I understand lynching for inactivity though.


Rels- I think he is town, I like most of his posts up un till his recent ones with his case against Lonemeow which I think is a pretty weak case for day1.


Farah--Town, Clear town motivation behind her posts, no fluff. Her case against Ever is clear and thought out and makes sense.


Ever-- The big thing that leaps out to me in his filter is the big post with all the quote about his case against KSC, was a big jumbled mess and a somewhat weak case. His thoughts are all over the place in the start but It could just be him being new and reacting to the posts he sees.


Shining- I think he is town, I like his posts and arguments, has some things I don't like but the things I like outweigh the ones I don't.


KSC - He started off looking scum to me but he started to look town since the last day. I like his reads and questions since he stopped posting fluff and being so negative at the start


Fecal- Seems scummy, posts seem half assed which shit reads that doesn't give any explanations. Not enough to go on for a Day 1 lynch.


Would Lynch: Lurker, Ever, Moosy
Needs more posts/convincing: Fecal

If anyone has specific questions for me hit me up fast since I have to go to my afternoon classes soon.

On October 20 2015 02:03 Vonthin wrote:
My thoughts on everyone now that I've read their filters.

Moosy- Slight scum read, I didn't like his opening spam shitpost crap, and some of the reason Rels brought up after I made my post the other night. He has some posts though where I can see town motivation but the useless posts outweigh them for me.


LoneMeow- I think he is town, I see clear motivation behind the things he is doing trying to get reads on people.


Sicklurker-Leaning slight scum on him, lots of fluff in his filter, I don't understand his Lonemeow vote, I don't see anything to go on besides him not posting a lot to make him scum.



Never said lol ez town read or that he was my top read just because I typed his read first in the list., He was just under my list for people who I thought were town for the time. I liked the posts he made and he had no fluff. My strongest town read at the time I made that list was GB. He seemed to made his opinions of me without reading my posts then read them and changed them after someone called him out on his and read them.


GB- Still town, I don't see any scum motivation behind his posts.


Boxer-- Null still, I understand his reasoning behind his cases but I don't agree with most of them. Has some fluff here and there and his posts/opinions vary so I don't really understand him.


Scott-Besides not posting a lot, his posts still read town to me. I understand lynching for inactivity though.


Rels- I think he is town, I like most of his posts up un till his recent ones with his case against Lonemeow which I think is a pretty weak case for day1.


Farah--Town, Clear town motivation behind her posts, no fluff. Her case against Ever is clear and thought out and makes sense.


Ever-- The big thing that leaps out to me in his filter is the big post with all the quote about his case against KSC, was a big jumbled mess and a somewhat weak case. His thoughts are all over the place in the start but It could just be him being new and reacting to the posts he sees.


Shining- I think he is town, I like his posts and arguments, has some things I don't like but the things I like outweigh the ones I don't.


KSC - He started off looking scum to me but he started to look town since the last day. I like his reads and questions since he stopped posting fluff and being so negative at the start


Fecal- Seems scummy, posts seem half assed which shit reads that doesn't give any explanations. Not enough to go on for a Day 1 lynch.


Would Lynch: Lurker, Ever, Moosy
Needs more posts/convincing: Fecal

If anyone has specific questions for me hit me up fast since I have to go to my afternoon classes soon.

On October 20 2015 02:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also, I already said what I think of Vonthin and that thought matches what you just asked. I already said his reads are surface level but that's NAI at best for a newbie game. tbh I'd like to lynch someone else than Vonthin for D1 but if you guys start a wagon on him then I'm happy to consolidate if necessary.

On October 20 2015 02:13 scott31337 wrote:
I got called into work yesterday for this stupid phone issue I thought we had fixed last week, but noooo -

I got the phones calmed down but now the internet is slow as dirt - and probably a switch issue.

I think KelsierSC is town, I'm not down for his lynch

I'll try to check in and give more time in a little bit.

On October 20 2015 02:28 Vonthin wrote:
Day 1 reads has always been the hardest for me, my first newbie game I got lynched Day 1 as town for posting like this, the other game I completed my Day 1 posting was also weak. You can go and look.

As for liking Meow I don't see any scum motivation behind the posts. I understand the logic behind them and what he was trying to accomplish by trying to get reads on people and to trap BF that one time, I just don't see mafia doing that D1.

As for Scott I don't think he was trying to scum up the thread at all in his posts, I don't think being lynched for inactivity day 1(unless they didn't post at all or vote but they would get mod killed anyways) isn't worth it because if they get lynched it doesn't give us much info to go on depending on the result since he has given us so little information which would give the scum an advantage and it would be like playing day 1 all over again unless we get lucky and he is actually scum. Day 2 he does the same thing then you can go for him.

Anyways I'm off for class, not sure I will be back before deadline so my vote will be for Ever

##Vote: Eversince

On October 20 2015 02:54 KelsierSC wrote:



this feels pretty weak. there isn't actually any further explanation of lonemeow like I asked for. saying you liked what he was trying to do?
well all you have is some stuff he did with trapping bf...but then why do you have bf as a null then. furthermore you already said you liked meow before that even happened with your initial list post. so what was there that he did that you really liked.
This feels like garbage.

Then some made up reasons to town read scott and still thinking this lynch is based on inactivity even though he hasn't explained the major point of his interaction with moosy. But you still seem desperate to save him.

Then "oh btw won't be here so lynch this guy"

why do we lynch ever here. you just sheeped some opinion that he posted a jumbled mess but you gave reasons why that isn't indicative....

pretty sure you are scum here and wouldn't be surprised if scott is aswell.

On October 20 2015 02:15 scott31337 wrote:
I mean I know I'm town - if Farah and Shining are scum, why don't they go for my wagon? Second level plays?

##Vote: Eversince

On October 20 2015 03:00 GlowingBear wrote:
Argh I forgot about this...

How many time we have left?

On October 20 2015 03:02 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Autocorrect got me, boxer his biggest scum read is on Scott hut he totally just sheeped onto Scott with him. Oh well

On October 20 2015 03:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
That's true but whenever one of my top scum reads is going on someone else I wouldn't just blindly sheep

On October 20 2015 04:40 LoneMeow wrote:
Can't figure this out. Sheeping Rels.

##vote: scott31337

On October 20 2015 04:50 sicklucker wrote:
the people who are not here at deadline are the scum like last game probably

On October 20 2015 04:50 sicklucker wrote:
if you would consider changing your vote lemme know

On October 20 2015 04:52 sicklucker wrote:


ya and we have ff whos tried to shennanie votes onto me in are last 8 d1's together hum. hes not even trying but he wants me dead.

And we have loenmoew who had 0 input and is sheeping a random person now

On October 20 2015 04:52 Eversince wrote:
well yeh, I guess Fecal doesn't look great. Just off his filter for stuff that happened since yesterday. I'll actually start playin' this if I don't die in like 5 minutes though.

On October 20 2015 05:09 Eversince wrote:
Oh I'm not. I hated your pointless spam so much yesterday. I would of happily lynched you if I came back today and you were high on the list.

On October 20 2015 05:12 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Ever why did you vote Scott over all your scum reads that you cared about previously

On October 20 2015 05:16 Eversince wrote:


Kelsier, Yeh, I did. I didn't have a high opinion of Moosy. I didn't have a great opinion on you. And then I see you arguing with him over something he's already refused to tell you? I'm sorry for thinking that either the spammer or the guy engaging him might be mafia.

On October 20 2015 05:21 Eversince wrote:
I didn't scumread Moosy, I had him as null. He played very much like this in my previous game with him. He was just mucking up the thread and you were helping him.

On October 20 2015 05:24 Eversince wrote:
No I said I didn't have a great opinion on you. Sorry for disliking something I guess?

On October 20 2015 05:16 Eversince wrote:


Kelsier, Yeh, I did. I didn't have a high opinion of Moosy. I didn't have a great opinion on you. And then I see you arguing with him over something he's already refused to tell you? I'm sorry for thinking that either the spammer or the guy engaging him might be mafia.

On October 20 2015 05:27 Eversince wrote:
Oops, I mis-read your post then. Previous chain of thought I just told you.

On October 20 2015 05:29 Eversince wrote:
If you wanna' know anything else feel free to ask. Or if I confused you in some way I'll try to elaborate. I didn't catch that mafia association from your post at all lol. I'm glad you pointed it out

On October 20 2015 05:35 Eversince wrote:
Just to be clear, I still don't like it. It accomplished nothing at the time. But, unless I'm mistaken (highly possible right now), Moosy never actually did answer you. So I can understand why you did it. I just don't understand why you did it so soon, or as pervasive as you did. But that doesn't make you mafia on it's own and I'm not convinced you are based on the rest of your play since then either. So I'm happy you didn't get lynched today.

On November 01 2015 06:35 Vonthin wrote:
anyways I hate playing scum, I overthink my moves and posts way too much. I had so many posts written and would preview them and be like wow this looks really bad and then just not post it. If I posted all of them my filter would be like double the size it is. Find town much more enjoyable but hopefully that will change once I get more XP

On November 01 2015 06:37 Vonthin wrote:
Also the day 1 bus I was like 90% sure that scott was gonna be the lynch so I felt safe with ES yet to vote, you guys were so sure on him with so little information

On November 01 2015 06:42 Eversince wrote:


I think scott lynch was fine. But mainly it came down to scott who was a lurker lynch who had got caught and never explains himself in a lie.

Or me, who was along the same lines. (I didn't lie but my thought process was misunderstood and a lot of people had questions for me. Sadly I was not around to answer them. When I was it made me look worse because of the time difference.)

On November 01 2015 06:54 Eversince wrote:
If over emphasizing is lying, I suppose. I would of had an issue with your exchange with Moosy in the early part of the game regardless of alignment. That is solely the reason I picked it up. I probably would not have put a case out. Especially the hastily written, unprocessed case that I did post. That would of likely never have happened if I wasn't mafia,

Re-previous statement to myself; Shut up, ignore it, and proceed to afk. If I get lynched for being away that's fine. If I get mafia read for the whole game because I was largely in-active and produced a terrible case... well. Not ok. More on that is because of my absence and the off push on you (Kelsier) and a hint on FF (which is another story because while people downed me for it, he got attention on D2 for the same reasons I hinted at. I simply wasn't around at the time to expand on it. I think I mentioned this some point.)

On November 01 2015 07:03 Eversince wrote:


Well I'm not sure how I could of entered differently. This is bound to happen from time to time until I move (Yeh, I'm fed up with my net enough that this is actually going to happen within the next 1-2 months). So my options were, try to post where I was at, or post complete filler meaning I didn't care to even read this game at the time, or be modkilled for in-activity.

I ended up ployin' the I really have no clue what's going on right now at the end of D1 (Mostly true, I had read through the game once and a lot of post where complete waste of space.) If I had done that from the get up, maby I would have been lynched, maby not. But on the end of D1, I had as much chance of flipping town as mafia, I didn't check my role pm until I was about to leave the library.

On November 01 2015 08:22 sicklucker wrote:


scum dont really lie thats a myth.

On November 01 2015 11:32 GlowingBear wrote:
Well I've just read scott saying he lost his respect for me.

I'm sorry, scott, but this game burned me out and I just couldn't play it anymore after moosy's flip. Also, I've got pretty busy. I do, however, look forward to play with you again in the future because I like you and I think I can read you pretty well lately.

I won't be playing for a while (HOORAY for most people!). I will be hanging around, tho.

Thank you guys for all the good time I've spent here. Although I have had some heated discussions in here lately, I wish all the best to you guys and I'm leaving with no hard feelings.

I would like to explain my play in this game. Until Moosy's flip, I was playing a very straight forward game and I tried to be very strict and serious with what I've posted. This was because a lot of players criticised The way I play, especially Rayn.

But when I saw that Moosy wasn't scum my willingness to play died. It just felt the effort I was trying to put in shaping my play wasn't worth it. And that's it.

By the way, Kelsier, I'm sorry for being bad manner with you in this game, and I hope you didn't get offended. In the end, I really appreciate the way you play.

I think that's all