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Blazinghand
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On October 27 2015 06:21 gumshoe wrote:
Yam has been following the thread(hes mostly playing games as opposed to working so I dont doubt it), he may very well pop in, whats more if we lynch hopeless and hopeless flips town as a worst case scenario and then I or Bh or xata get shot, we might not be able to get another wagon on Yam like today, especially with Rayn being a little bitch.
Ugh, as awful as it is to admit, this is a valid objection. right now we have a "lynch yam cause he's lurking" coalition of 5 people, and one of those is hopeless1. So if we lynch Hopeless1 and he flips town, and then one of us is shot, Yam goes free. Jesus christ this is a clusterfuck
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Blazinghand
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On October 27 2015 06:24 ritoky wrote:
it's the classic empty promises vs excuses for not playing comparison.
I know, it's really shit.
Okay, so my vote is staying on Yam, for now. Under the following conditions, I will shennannie onto Hopeless1:
1. Yamato77 comes back and votes so he's not getting modkilled
2. We have enough people who have committed (write ##shennanigan or similar in the thread so I know you're in) that it will actually happen.
##shennanigan
If we don't hit 5, I don't have to worry about the various complications of this. If we do hit 5, we'll discuss what to do then.
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Blazinghand
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On October 27 2015 06:25 Onegu wrote:
i am sick.
Lynch hopeless this is my strong gut read. Like he came back made one post voted Yamato mentions me testing him and then is gone again.
You admittedly haven't even read the thread. The only reason this shenannigan isn't onto you is that Hopeless1 is, amazingly, less active than you are
AGH
AGHGHHH this is all so awful
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Blazinghand
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On October 27 2015 06:26 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2015 06:23 Blazinghand wrote:On October 27 2015 06:21 gumshoe wrote:
Yam has been following the thread(hes mostly playing games as opposed to working so I dont doubt it), he may very well pop in, whats more if we lynch hopeless and hopeless flips town as a worst case scenario and then I or Bh or xata get shot, we might not be able to get another wagon on Yam like today, especially with Rayn being a little bitch. Ugh, as awful as it is to admit, this is a valid objection. right now we have a "lynch yam cause he's lurking" coalition of 5 people, and one of those is hopeless1. So if we lynch Hopeless1 and he flips town, and then one of us is shot, Yam goes free. Jesus christ this is a clusterfuck Yeah that'd be a nasty situation >.> And makes it all the more likely for yamato to be scum since there's only barely enough support to get him lynched, whereas usually town get lynched more easily (like Slam did).
Yeah, yeah.
damn it alright I'll put off deciding on shenanigans until we are sure we have enough people who might be interested
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On October 27 2015 06:26 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2015 06:22 Blazinghand wrote:Hmm, so it looks like Yam made some general commentary without doing any hard pushes (though he semed on board with slam lynch) during D1. Then he faded out at the end of D1 and has commented rarely since. His reasoning has to do with morale and vidja games Hopeless1 has literally only posted one-liners except for this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/496215-mini-mafia-the-kinda-vanilla-experience?page=107#2125 and similarly dropped off at the end of D1. His excuse was that he was partying all weekend due to his new job, which is less likely to be true (since yam's is true whether he's scum or town). He spent a lot of time tlaking about my rng, voted slam literally expressly as a sheep, and asked/answered a few basica questions. I guess this post by Yam: On October 22 2015 13:35 yamato77 wrote:On October 22 2015 13:28 Chromatically wrote:On October 22 2015 13:23 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think Vivax is mafia.
I think Xatalos has some questionable parts of his filter and I agree with gumshoe to an extent.
I do not think gumshoe is mafia very often (given his play this game).
I think marv has changed how he plays (quite obviously). Don't know what to make of that quite yet.
I think rayn is leaning town but it's hard to say with not much having happened.
Most others are a big ?, including yourself.
tl;dr it's been 20 pages and 8 hours and no reads are confident. Who would you lynch between if you had to pick right now? I wouldn't, because I have like 40 hours to decide. This is one of the issues I have with Xatalos/Vivax and their "read" on me. Do you really expect me to be super active when there's nothing really that interesting to talk about? It's fucking pointless conjecture. No answer to your question will mean a damn thing in 20 hours when I have more substantive stuff to talk about. Sure, it makes you question my alignment, but do I really care? No. When I want to, I'll be painfully obvious town and I'll almost certainly find a better lynch than most of you, and once you realize this, we'll be heading in a better direction. Thinking that you're "putting pressure" on me by forcing me to answer asinine questions is literally the least useful thing you could do at this juncture. If I fail to deliver, you can go ahead and try to get me lynched, but in the mean time, don't delude yourself into thinking I'm scum just because I won't play the game the way you want me to. It's rather silly. Is probably better than the entire hopeless filter combined even though it's mostly BS. Generally, it seems like Hopeless1 is a slightly better lynch to me. At least Yam was like, commenting on stuff what he was alive, right? But honestly both these guys need to die. On October 27 2015 06:12 Chromatically wrote:
My biggest problem with a Hopeless lynch is that I feel like tomorrow will turn into an exact repeat of today where gumshoe pushes yamato all day and I don't want to do that all again honestly. Hmm, this is a valid objection I suppose. How about we be ready to shenannie onto H1 if Yam is gonna get modkilled due to failure to vote? This might be the win-win we're looking for I could compromise to this / : we would basically remove both primary lurkers at once. Though I don't like the possibility of yam coming back T_T
shennannies only happen if Yamato doesn't come back. Let me be clear: If he comes back, we lynch him
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Blazinghand
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On October 27 2015 06:28 Xatalos wrote:
I think it might be too risky after all... Considering yamato could just vote like 10 seconds before the deadline and we'd be screwed then.
It would effectively be a scumclaim if he did, we'd just lynch him 100% tomorrow. I suspect even the Yamato lovers would be on board if he pulled that kind of stunt. We should ask them, though, to be sure.
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Blazinghand
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We don't even have enough people so it doesn't matter
On October 27 2015 06:31 Xatalos wrote:
Plus Onegu parked his vote on Hopeless which makes me feel better about Hopeless lol
haha yeah also this.
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Blazinghand
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On October 27 2015 06:31 Xatalos wrote:
Maybe Onegu shenanigans after all?
I'm in for Onegu shennanigans, but I'm pretty sure most people are not. weigh in if you are
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Blazinghand
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On October 27 2015 06:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
at least shennie to GB if yamato does not come back please BH.
If yamato does not come back, and ALSO people are not willing to shennie onto Hope1 or 1gu, I vow on my honor as the shenannigan king that I will shenny onto GlowingBear
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Blazinghand
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Who else is down for the GB shennie?
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On October 27 2015 06:45 gumshoe wrote:
This town is too fractured for Shenanies. I want an old fashioned majority and I rather not get super greedy.
Hopeless could you get in here? People want to kill you for the sake of efficiency / : and im not entirely sure they're wrong.
re: H1; don't hold your breath
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Blazinghand
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On October 27 2015 06:48 Chromatically wrote:
If we hit two mislynches ofc
the idea is that at least one would be good in this case, probably yam
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Blazinghand
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I'm staying on yam and at 2 minutes out, if he hasn't voted, I'm moving to GlowingBear. I will have a "change my vote back to Yamato" post queued up and will post it if I see him come back
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Blazinghand
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On October 27 2015 06:56 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2015 06:54 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm staying on yam and at 2 minutes out, if he hasn't voted, I'm moving to GlowingBear. I will have a "change my vote back to Yamato" post queued up and will post it if I see him come back Are you really sure? rayn and yamato could ninjavote GB to take him down
I will ninja harder back onto yam if necessary. I have a fast internet connection and a fast computer!
I am afraid of this risk but no matter what, Yam dies. this is my promise
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Blazinghand
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On October 27 2015 06:56 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2015 06:54 Chromatically wrote:
I think that logically it's better to make sure we only kill one person today though, because we don't want to rush our lynches and not have the full amount of time/information. So no shennanies I guess. I think my logic here is right? Killing two people today is always worse for town because it's just using one of our later lynches a day early.
if we catch scum though isn't that objectively better? Like, right now we're at 8-3 right
if we catch scum with 2lynch we got o 7-2, then after nk we're at 6-2
If we don't, we go to 8-2 then 7-2
and there's no promises of not another modkill so we should be on hand.
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Blazinghand
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SHENANNIES
##unvote
##vote GlowingBear
I AM READY TO SWITCH BACK
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Ah, well I guess that's on me for pushing yam, but I really think we should have also picked up GB at the same time with shennies. We can do it tomorrow?
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