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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 13:23 GMT
#4341
or vote sicklucker

only options

we can pile on to sicklucker but you have to choose between me and sicklucker right now

every last one of you

read our filters, discuss, what have you

but no one can vote anyone else AT ALL or we lose
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 05 2015 13:24 GMT
#4342
He said this exactly:
On October 04 2015 07:18 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 07:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 04 2015 07:14 Trfel wrote:
Mafia team is MoosyDoosy, sicklucker, and The Shining. Possibly rsoultin, but probably not because that would mean that I sort of did something right. I hope it's not LightningStrike.

Final answer, barring a thought or two that I'm keeping to myself.

^^^ Pursue that starting with me please.
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 07:16 rsoultin wrote:
so...we're down 4

should be down 5 unless something unexpected happens by EoN

that's 8 players

5v3...yeah fuck -_-
Seriously, how are you so far behind me?

You are NEVER behind me. I'm always the one lagging behind you.

Okay, you're mafia.


rayn, I also think rsoultin has a good chance to be mafia. But sicklucker and LS are also super scummy. LS did not do much until today; I admit him going though my past games is a town point. But SL lied about you and him being the first to push coolTLname; and more than that, he's super all over the place, not having direction.

What I'm saying is:
rsoultin could be mafia.
But Shining and Moosy are 99% mafia.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 13:25 GMT
#4343
i'm town

sicklucker is scum

rayn has voted me

there are 3 scum

if you vote anyone but me or sicklucker, scum will pile onto me 4/3/1

we're voting between me and sicklucker

i'll answer anything you want me to answer
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 05 2015 13:26 GMT
#4344
On October 05 2015 22:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 22:06 Rels wrote:
On October 05 2015 22:03 LightningStrike wrote:
On October 05 2015 22:00 Rels wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:57 LightningStrike wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:53 Rels wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:47 LightningStrike wrote:
Something to note on Newbie Student Mafia XI: He did push for a Fake)Plant lynch before Fake)Plant had replaced out. He did default to a Geript lynch since he wasn't around EoD 1 there on Page 4 of his filter but then he played like his normal(I think). On New Personality he didn't really do much except for some mini cases until Night 2. so I can confirm that.

OK thanks. Now why do you think of Moosy playing Newbie XI and obsing personality, but still scumreading me because I'm not pushing my lynch hard enough ?
On October 05 2015 20:12 Rels wrote:
MoosyDoosy's reasons for scumreading me are partly based on meta that are easily disproved by a meta check; and Moosy read the town games that disproved this meta

On October 05 2015 04:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels - Completely different from how he normally acts. When pursuing a scum read, he drops it immediately after one explanation which is very uncharacteristic of Rels. He also changes around his story to match the situation. There is no way that screaming about a person's supposedly scummy behavior is supposed to be a "town read". The whole time he was arguing with me, he continuously tried to fish for things as well. At this point, his scum read on me is forced.


The part about "I should be playing smarter and push scumreads harder" are dismissed for the same reasons I've explained here.

Resume
On October 05 2015 19:25 Rels wrote:
Most of this is based on the fact I should be playing smarter, and I should push my reads harder. This could be a valid accusation if I was always playing like that as town. But a simple meta check on my past games would have made her doubt.

In two games where I was town, I didn't push my scumreads hard, and almost got lynched for that in both games.
Newbie student Mafia XI => Day 1, I didn't hard push a scumread, defaulting to geript because I wasn't available at deadline. I was almost lynched D1 for that; if batsnacks hadn't found a non existent "slip" on geript, I would have been the lynch. That changed D2 when I started to play like usual.
The New Personality Mafia => Day 1, I didn't do shit. I was suspected heavily and almost lynched D2 for that; if yamato wasn't jester and rayn didn't create a stupid reason to townread yamato and hammer me, I was probably dead. That changed EOD2 when I started playing like usual.

And in the only game I was mafia:
Season of the Witch 2 => Day 1, I was the driving force on Dandel's push, and managed to get him mislynched.


BUT
Contrary to rsoultin, I know for a fact Moosy read the two town games referenced above. He was:
- playing in Newbie XI
- obsing the first days of personality

So Moosy should know I can act like that as town. Especially if I don't have the time to play at deadline, as it was the case both Newbie XI and in this game.


Sometimes people do forget and sometimes people misrepresent people although normally not on purpose and I see you think he's misrepresenting you correct? If so does that make him town or mafia?

That makes him mafia because the situation in both game were similar. In both games, I didn't push my scumread D1, but I voted on a mislynch.
In particular it is very similar to Newbie XI, which he was playing in. I defaulted to geript and left the thread. Exactly like D1 here, where I defaulted to coolTLname and left the thread. So him saying I'm mafia partly because I didn't push my scumreads hard enough is him using meta that he should know is false.

Okay anything else on why MD is mafia?

yes and you should have read it if you read the thread ?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=208#4150
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=211#4217
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=212#4223
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=212#4224

So TLDR:
His static read on Shining doesn't make sense.
Weird way of thinking of the coolTLname lynching him regard of coolTLname's alignment.
Lying about being the first one to push coolTLname.
Calling you mafia for bad reasons plus misrepresenting your meta.
That what pretty why you scumreading him?

Yes exactly (=
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 13:26 GMT
#4345
On October 05 2015 22:24 Rels wrote:
He said this exactly:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 07:18 Trfel wrote:
On October 04 2015 07:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 04 2015 07:14 Trfel wrote:
Mafia team is MoosyDoosy, sicklucker, and The Shining. Possibly rsoultin, but probably not because that would mean that I sort of did something right. I hope it's not LightningStrike.

Final answer, barring a thought or two that I'm keeping to myself.

^^^ Pursue that starting with me please.
On October 04 2015 07:16 rsoultin wrote:
so...we're down 4

should be down 5 unless something unexpected happens by EoN

that's 8 players

5v3...yeah fuck -_-
Seriously, how are you so far behind me?

You are NEVER behind me. I'm always the one lagging behind you.

Okay, you're mafia.


rayn, I also think rsoultin has a good chance to be mafia. But sicklucker and LS are also super scummy. LS did not do much until today; I admit him going though my past games is a town point. But SL lied about you and him being the first to push coolTLname; and more than that, he's super all over the place, not having direction.

What I'm saying is:
rsoultin could be mafia.
But Shining and Moosy are 99% mafia.


lol >< yeah it's not like he really meant it though?

i mean y'all can vote me for being stupid it's wonderfully ironic

but if rayn is really not moving

YOU HAVE TO VOTE BETWEEN ME AND SICKLUCKER

><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 05 2015 13:27 GMT
#4346
On October 05 2015 22:24 Rels wrote:
What I'm saying is:
rsoultin could be mafia.
But Shining and Moosy are 99% mafia.

ls is not mafia, sl is not mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 13:27 GMT
#4347
rels

do you understand what i'm saying? ls? guys? -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 05 2015 13:28 GMT
#4348
I rather go for the easier fish atm Tina myself.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 05 2015 13:29 GMT
#4349
On October 05 2015 22:26 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 22:24 Rels wrote:
He said this exactly:
On October 04 2015 07:18 Trfel wrote:
On October 04 2015 07:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 04 2015 07:14 Trfel wrote:
Mafia team is MoosyDoosy, sicklucker, and The Shining. Possibly rsoultin, but probably not because that would mean that I sort of did something right. I hope it's not LightningStrike.

Final answer, barring a thought or two that I'm keeping to myself.

^^^ Pursue that starting with me please.
On October 04 2015 07:16 rsoultin wrote:
so...we're down 4

should be down 5 unless something unexpected happens by EoN

that's 8 players

5v3...yeah fuck -_-
Seriously, how are you so far behind me?

You are NEVER behind me. I'm always the one lagging behind you.

Okay, you're mafia.


rayn, I also think rsoultin has a good chance to be mafia. But sicklucker and LS are also super scummy. LS did not do much until today; I admit him going though my past games is a town point. But SL lied about you and him being the first to push coolTLname; and more than that, he's super all over the place, not having direction.

What I'm saying is:
rsoultin could be mafia.
But Shining and Moosy are 99% mafia.


lol >< yeah it's not like he really meant it though?

i mean y'all can vote me for being stupid it's wonderfully ironic

but if rayn is really not moving

YOU HAVE TO VOTE BETWEEN ME AND SICKLUCKER

><

rayn said exactly the same thing before. He ended up switching his vote to you. I'm pretty sure he will switch to Shining or Moosy to consolidate.
Or maybe I'll end up switching to you or sicklucker if a damning case is made
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 05 2015 13:29 GMT
#4350
On October 05 2015 22:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 22:24 Rels wrote:
What I'm saying is:
rsoultin could be mafia.
But Shining and Moosy are 99% mafia.

ls is not mafia, sl is not mafia.

why SL isn't mafia ?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 13:30 GMT
#4351
On October 05 2015 22:28 LightningStrike wrote:
I rather go for the easier fish atm Tina myself.


...

like am i wrong? i don't think i am ><

rayn's voting for town so we have to all vote for scum
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 13:32 GMT
#4352
On October 05 2015 22:29 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 22:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 05 2015 22:24 Rels wrote:
What I'm saying is:
rsoultin could be mafia.
But Shining and Moosy are 99% mafia.

ls is not mafia, sl is not mafia.

why SL isn't mafia ?


rayn has decided i'm mafia lol that's why
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 05 2015 13:33 GMT
#4353
OK I've said why I thought rsoultin could be mafia. I only forgot to check one thing; I think she said D1 that we should not lynch Shining because he wasn't playing Monday / Tuesday; and she repeated it N2 or start of D3. Will do that now.
rayn I'm not seeing how rsoultin being "slow" is scum indicative. But the fact that Trfel 1. remarked the same thing and 2. died the next night is making me wonder about that
Then I'll need to do a sicklucker filter dive. rayn, I don't see how you can state he's not mafia, unless you're doing an associative read with rsoultin
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 13:34 GMT
#4354
On October 05 2015 22:33 Rels wrote:
OK I've said why I thought rsoultin could be mafia. I only forgot to check one thing; I think she said D1 that we should not lynch Shining because he wasn't playing Monday / Tuesday; and she repeated it N2 or start of D3. Will do that now.
rayn I'm not seeing how rsoultin being "slow" is scum indicative. But the fact that Trfel 1. remarked the same thing and 2. died the next night is making me wonder about that
Then I'll need to do a sicklucker filter dive. rayn, I don't see how you can state he's not mafia, unless you're doing an associative read with rsoultin


...

dude truffle was obviously townreading me last night there's no way that if i'm scum i nk'd him for his read on me ><

he said ls and shining were town because he trusted me for god's sake >< like if you want to call me scum it can never be for this
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 13:35 GMT
#4355
On October 05 2015 02:56 Trfel wrote:
I think I am going to wait for the night kill and hope that it will somehow simplify the game.

Then I think I may just townread LightningStrike and The Shining and blame rsoultin and Damdred if that is wrong.

Then I will really really hope that we can find three mafia that don't include Rels.


^ ^ ^

okay "may" i misremembered but that's not someone scumreading me -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 05 2015 13:36 GMT
#4356
On October 05 2015 22:34 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 22:33 Rels wrote:
OK I've said why I thought rsoultin could be mafia. I only forgot to check one thing; I think she said D1 that we should not lynch Shining because he wasn't playing Monday / Tuesday; and she repeated it N2 or start of D3. Will do that now.
rayn I'm not seeing how rsoultin being "slow" is scum indicative. But the fact that Trfel 1. remarked the same thing and 2. died the next night is making me wonder about that
Then I'll need to do a sicklucker filter dive. rayn, I don't see how you can state he's not mafia, unless you're doing an associative read with rsoultin


...

dude truffle was obviously townreading me last night there's no way that if i'm scum i nk'd him for his read on me ><

he said ls and shining were town because he trusted me for god's sake >< like if you want to call me scum it can never be for this

yeah but he called you out on the exact thing rayn is doing right now. And I'm not seeing how that makes anyone mafia, so that must be a meta based read.
anyway I'm asking that to rayn, of course you're going to deny it, as town or mafia.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 13:37 GMT
#4357
On October 05 2015 22:36 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 22:34 rsoultin wrote:
On October 05 2015 22:33 Rels wrote:
OK I've said why I thought rsoultin could be mafia. I only forgot to check one thing; I think she said D1 that we should not lynch Shining because he wasn't playing Monday / Tuesday; and she repeated it N2 or start of D3. Will do that now.
rayn I'm not seeing how rsoultin being "slow" is scum indicative. But the fact that Trfel 1. remarked the same thing and 2. died the next night is making me wonder about that
Then I'll need to do a sicklucker filter dive. rayn, I don't see how you can state he's not mafia, unless you're doing an associative read with rsoultin


...

dude truffle was obviously townreading me last night there's no way that if i'm scum i nk'd him for his read on me ><

he said ls and shining were town because he trusted me for god's sake >< like if you want to call me scum it can never be for this

yeah but he called you out on the exact thing rayn is doing right now. And I'm not seeing how that makes anyone mafia, so that must be a meta based read.
anyway I'm asking that to rayn, of course you're going to deny it, as town or mafia.


lol i've lynched a god-damn green check saying he was godfather because i couldn't see that i was townreading scum for a bad reason

if it's a meta read, it's a bad one. i'm just as capable of being stupid as the next person
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 05 2015 13:39 GMT
#4358
On October 05 2015 22:36 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 22:34 rsoultin wrote:
On October 05 2015 22:33 Rels wrote:
OK I've said why I thought rsoultin could be mafia. I only forgot to check one thing; I think she said D1 that we should not lynch Shining because he wasn't playing Monday / Tuesday; and she repeated it N2 or start of D3. Will do that now.
rayn I'm not seeing how rsoultin being "slow" is scum indicative. But the fact that Trfel 1. remarked the same thing and 2. died the next night is making me wonder about that
Then I'll need to do a sicklucker filter dive. rayn, I don't see how you can state he's not mafia, unless you're doing an associative read with rsoultin


...

dude truffle was obviously townreading me last night there's no way that if i'm scum i nk'd him for his read on me ><

he said ls and shining were town because he trusted me for god's sake >< like if you want to call me scum it can never be for this

yeah but he called you out on the exact thing rayn is doing right now. And I'm not seeing how that makes anyone mafia, so that must be a meta based read.
anyway I'm asking that to rayn, of course you're going to deny it, as town or mafia.

actually I'm asking that to LS too. LS what's your pick on that ?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 13:41 GMT
#4359
like seriously if you want to check meta, rels

check how many fucking times rayn has tunneled me when we're both town for me saying something that's "stupid" and me being too smart to do it ><

down under 3 is in my profile -_-

i thought there was another one though...was it slam's game? eh i'm not sure anymore maybe it was just one @.@
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 13:45 GMT
#4360
On October 05 2015 22:41 rsoultin wrote:
like seriously if you want to check meta, rels

check how many fucking times rayn has tunneled me when we're both town for me saying something that's "stupid" and me being too smart to do it ><

down under 3 is in my profile -_-

i thought there was another one though...was it slam's game? eh i'm not sure anymore maybe it was just one @.@


ye it was that bastard game

he read me town cause he thought i was alluding to being town in another game i guess when i wasn't and called it dma but the entirety of his push beforehand was "this is stupid, you're not stupid, therefore you're mafia"

it's true that he believes this shit but it's also true he's just off his fucking rocker

(that and i wasn't actually being stupid in the second game, he was xP)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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