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On October 05 2015 22:41 rsoultin wrote:
like seriously if you want to check meta, rels
check how many fucking times rayn has tunneled me when we're both town for me saying something that's "stupid" and me being too smart to do it ><
down under 3 is in my profile -_-
i thought there was another one though...was it slam's game? eh i'm not sure anymore maybe it was just one @.@
stop answering questions that are not for you - -'
I don't care if rayn has tunneled you before. I know very well he can tunnel on town, hell in season of the witch I used a tunnel of his to instant majority BM
I do care about this "slow to evaluated stuff" meta point. I'm intrigued because Trfel, confirmed town and super smart guy, said exactly the same thing. So I want explanation for either rayn or LS. LS would be better as I would be sure he's not tunneled
Please let people answer the questions they have been asked
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wow this is going to be one hell of a post 
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rsoultin, you said gb/shining and moosy/rels and now you’re saying gb/rels and moosy/shining? exactly which is it?
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okay so let me explain my thought process here
it's lylo
there are 5 town
if 1 is on town we've already lost unless we pile 4 on scum before they can get on the town and just don't move for anything, cause it's whoever gets to 4 first
if shining's scum, and sicklucker's scum, if all town players are voting for scum we have to reach 3 before scum can pile on to a town player. so we can afford a 2/3 split there, which i wasn't really thinking much on cause i think shining is town 
like i get why rayn thinks this makes me scum but the problem here is we absolutely have to consolidate on 2 wagons because if anyone is wrong here's what happens
1 town wagon
1 scum wagon
race to 4 votes
1 town wagon - 1 town <- scum will end up here for the win
1 scum wagon - 2 town
1 other scum wagon - 2 town
1 town wagon - 1 town <- scum will end up here
1 town wagon - 1 town <- or here
1 scum wagon - 3 town
like i get why he thinks i'm scum for not voting for sicklucker right off the bat
but LEGITIMATELY if we do not consolidate on 2 wagons we're screwed. and LEGITIMATELY we could still be screwed because if town votes for town, just one town player voting for just one town player, scum can pile on and win
this is what i was thinking, rayn, and this is why i am demanding that we lynch between me and sicklucker if you're not going to move
there's no way for us to win with more than one wagon we have to consolidate and i really wish you would try to be objective about me rayn. please fucking try ><
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On October 05 2015 22:33 Rels wrote:
OK I've said why I thought rsoultin could be mafia. I only forgot to check one thing; I think she said D1 that we should not lynch Shining because he wasn't playing Monday / Tuesday; and she repeated it N2 or start of D3. Will do that now.
About the Monday / Tuesday stuff: I was wrong, she didn't defend Shining D1 when marv wanted to switch to him.
She said this D3:
On October 05 2015 10:08 rsoultin wrote:
so of three possible scum people want to vote the guy who doesn't have time on monday and tuesday to play
brilliant
it's a good scum move, though, not letting him defend himself ^^
rayn -_- i swear to god if shining's town and i think he is...even if he's scum really...and you just random your damn vote in fucking lylo i will be very, very upset with you
and you will never have any right again to complain about anyone playing badly or poorly when you are willfully throwing the game right now
at least do us the courtesy, if we're going to lose in lylo, of losing because you're voting for someone you actually believe is scum ><
I thought it was bad because I thought she used the exact same argument D1. She didn't though.
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On October 05 2015 22:39 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 22:36 Rels wrote:On October 05 2015 22:34 rsoultin wrote:On October 05 2015 22:33 Rels wrote:
OK I've said why I thought rsoultin could be mafia. I only forgot to check one thing; I think she said D1 that we should not lynch Shining because he wasn't playing Monday / Tuesday; and she repeated it N2 or start of D3. Will do that now.
rayn I'm not seeing how rsoultin being "slow" is scum indicative. But the fact that Trfel 1. remarked the same thing and 2. died the next night is making me wonder about that
Then I'll need to do a sicklucker filter dive. rayn, I don't see how you can state he's not mafia, unless you're doing an associative read with rsoultin ... dude truffle was obviously townreading me last night there's no way that if i'm scum i nk'd him for his read on me >< he said ls and shining were town because he trusted me for god's sake >< like if you want to call me scum it can never be for this yeah but he called you out on the exact thing rayn is doing right now. And I'm not seeing how that makes anyone mafia, so that must be a meta based read. anyway I'm asking that to rayn, of course you're going to deny it, as town or mafia. actually I'm asking that to LS too. LS what's your pick on that ?
We both had seen Rayn tunnel as town before regardless of the alignment of the person he's tunneling. Anyways I will check what you trying to talk about so I get a better understand on what you trying to ask me.
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On October 05 2015 22:14 rsoultin wrote:
actually there are what, 5 town, 3 scum?
let's just vote sicklucker lol
what is this supposed to mean?
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On October 05 2015 22:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rsoultin, you said gb/shining and moosy/rels and now you’re saying gb/rels and moosy/shining? exactly which is it?
read closer -_-
i said that the scumteams were gb/rels or moosy/shining but i realized that was wrong
and i'm saying there's no way that you and rels are scum together, so there's one scum between you
and there's no way that moosy and shining are scum together, so there's one scum between you
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On October 05 2015 22:54 rsoultin wrote:okay so let me explain my thought process here it's lylo there are 5 town if 1 is on town we've already lost unless we pile 4 on scum before they can get on the town and just don't move for anything, cause it's whoever gets to 4 first if shining's scum, and sicklucker's scum, if all town players are voting for scum we have to reach 3 before scum can pile on to a town player. so we can afford a 2/3 split there, which i wasn't really thinking much on cause i think shining is town like i get why rayn thinks this makes me scum but the problem here is we absolutely have to consolidate on 2 wagons because if anyone is wrong here's what happens 1 town wagon 1 scum wagon race to 4 votes 1 town wagon - 1 town <- scum will end up here for the win 1 scum wagon - 2 town 1 other scum wagon - 2 town 1 town wagon - 1 town <- scum will end up here 1 town wagon - 1 town <- or here 1 scum wagon - 3 town like i get why he thinks i'm scum for not voting for sicklucker right off the bat but LEGITIMATELY if we do not consolidate on 2 wagons we're screwed. and LEGITIMATELY we could still be screwed because if town votes for town, just one town player voting for just one town player, scum can pile on and win this is what i was thinking, rayn, and this is why i am demanding that we lynch between me and sicklucker if you're not going to move there's no way for us to win with more than one wagon we have to consolidate and i really wish you would try to be objective about me rayn. please fucking try ><
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On October 05 2015 22:55 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 22:39 Rels wrote:On October 05 2015 22:36 Rels wrote:On October 05 2015 22:34 rsoultin wrote:On October 05 2015 22:33 Rels wrote:
OK I've said why I thought rsoultin could be mafia. I only forgot to check one thing; I think she said D1 that we should not lynch Shining because he wasn't playing Monday / Tuesday; and she repeated it N2 or start of D3. Will do that now.
rayn I'm not seeing how rsoultin being "slow" is scum indicative. But the fact that Trfel 1. remarked the same thing and 2. died the next night is making me wonder about that
Then I'll need to do a sicklucker filter dive. rayn, I don't see how you can state he's not mafia, unless you're doing an associative read with rsoultin ... dude truffle was obviously townreading me last night there's no way that if i'm scum i nk'd him for his read on me >< he said ls and shining were town because he trusted me for god's sake >< like if you want to call me scum it can never be for this yeah but he called you out on the exact thing rayn is doing right now. And I'm not seeing how that makes anyone mafia, so that must be a meta based read. anyway I'm asking that to rayn, of course you're going to deny it, as town or mafia. actually I'm asking that to LS too. LS what's your pick on that ? We both had seen Rayn tunnel as town before regardless of the alignment of the person he's tunneling. Anyways I will check what you trying to talk about so I get a better understand on what you trying to ask me.
sure. Rayn is supposedly doing a big post; if it's about the "rsoultin is too slow on evaluating certain things" stuff, it will be based on meta, so your thoughts are important, as you know rsoultin the best. At least I think ?
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On October 05 2015 22:57 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 22:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rsoultin, you said gb/shining and moosy/rels and now you’re saying gb/rels and moosy/shining? exactly which is it? read closer -_- i said that the scumteams were gb/rels or moosy/shining but i realized that was wrong and i'm saying there's no way that you and rels are scum together, so there's one scum between you and there's no way that moosy and shining are scum together, so there's one scum between you
so you're saying the team is shining/rels?
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On October 05 2015 22:57 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 22:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rsoultin, you said gb/shining and moosy/rels and now you’re saying gb/rels and moosy/shining? exactly which is it? read closer -_- i said that the scumteams were gb/rels or moosy/shining but i realized that was wrong and i'm saying there's no way that you and rels are scum together, so there's one scum between you and there's no way that moosy and shining are scum together, so there's one scum between you
blah i'm typing too fast, there's no way gb and shining are scum together because of gb's "reaction test" on shining
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On October 05 2015 22:57 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 22:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rsoultin, you said gb/shining and moosy/rels and now you’re saying gb/rels and moosy/shining? exactly which is it? read closer -_- i said that the scumteams were gb/rels or moosy/shining but i realized that was wrong and i'm saying there's no way that you and rels are scum together, so there's one scum between you and there's no way that moosy and shining are scum together, so there's one scum between you
... why is there no way Shining and Moosy are scum together ?
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On October 05 2015 22:54 rsoultin wrote:okay so let me explain my thought process here it's lylo there are 5 town if 1 is on town we've already lost unless we pile 4 on scum before they can get on the town and just don't move for anything, cause it's whoever gets to 4 first if shining's scum, and sicklucker's scum, if all town players are voting for scum we have to reach 3 before scum can pile on to a town player. so we can afford a 2/3 split there, which i wasn't really thinking much on cause i think shining is town like i get why rayn thinks this makes me scum but the problem here is we absolutely have to consolidate on 2 wagons because if anyone is wrong here's what happens 1 town wagon 1 scum wagon race to 4 votes 1 town wagon - 1 town <- scum will end up here for the win 1 scum wagon - 2 town 1 other scum wagon - 2 town 1 town wagon - 1 town <- scum will end up here 1 town wagon - 1 town <- or here 1 scum wagon - 3 town like i get why he thinks i'm scum for not voting for sicklucker right off the bat but LEGITIMATELY if we do not consolidate on 2 wagons we're screwed. and LEGITIMATELY we could still be screwed because if town votes for town, just one town player voting for just one town player, scum can pile on and win this is what i was thinking, rayn, and this is why i am demanding that we lynch between me and sicklucker if you're not going to move there's no way for us to win with more than one wagon we have to consolidate and i really wish you would try to be objective about me rayn. please fucking try ><
^ GUYS
like seriously where am i wrong here? READ THIS!!
i'm not even arguing that i'm not scum
i'm arguing that unless we consolidate on just two wagons right now we are going to fucking lose for sure
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On October 05 2015 22:58 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 22:57 rsoultin wrote:On October 05 2015 22:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
rsoultin, you said gb/shining and moosy/rels and now you’re saying gb/rels and moosy/shining? exactly which is it? read closer -_- i said that the scumteams were gb/rels or moosy/shining but i realized that was wrong and i'm saying there's no way that you and rels are scum together, so there's one scum between you and there's no way that moosy and shining are scum together, so there's one scum between you blah i'm typing too fast, there's no way gb and shining are scum together because of gb's "reaction test" on shining
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On October 05 2015 23:00 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 22:54 rsoultin wrote:okay so let me explain my thought process here it's lylo there are 5 town if 1 is on town we've already lost unless we pile 4 on scum before they can get on the town and just don't move for anything, cause it's whoever gets to 4 first if shining's scum, and sicklucker's scum, if all town players are voting for scum we have to reach 3 before scum can pile on to a town player. so we can afford a 2/3 split there, which i wasn't really thinking much on cause i think shining is town like i get why rayn thinks this makes me scum but the problem here is we absolutely have to consolidate on 2 wagons because if anyone is wrong here's what happens 1 town wagon 1 scum wagon race to 4 votes 1 town wagon - 1 town <- scum will end up here for the win 1 scum wagon - 2 town 1 other scum wagon - 2 town 1 town wagon - 1 town <- scum will end up here 1 town wagon - 1 town <- or here 1 scum wagon - 3 town like i get why he thinks i'm scum for not voting for sicklucker right off the bat but LEGITIMATELY if we do not consolidate on 2 wagons we're screwed. and LEGITIMATELY we could still be screwed because if town votes for town, just one town player voting for just one town player, scum can pile on and win this is what i was thinking, rayn, and this is why i am demanding that we lynch between me and sicklucker if you're not going to move there's no way for us to win with more than one wagon we have to consolidate and i really wish you would try to be objective about me rayn. please fucking try >< ^ GUYS like seriously where am i wrong here? READ THIS!! i'm not even arguing that i'm not scum i'm arguing that unless we consolidate on just two wagons right now we are going to fucking lose for sure
Why are you so stressed when nobody except rayn is sure you are scum ?
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On October 05 2015 23:01 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 23:00 rsoultin wrote:On October 05 2015 22:54 rsoultin wrote:okay so let me explain my thought process here it's lylo there are 5 town if 1 is on town we've already lost unless we pile 4 on scum before they can get on the town and just don't move for anything, cause it's whoever gets to 4 first if shining's scum, and sicklucker's scum, if all town players are voting for scum we have to reach 3 before scum can pile on to a town player. so we can afford a 2/3 split there, which i wasn't really thinking much on cause i think shining is town like i get why rayn thinks this makes me scum but the problem here is we absolutely have to consolidate on 2 wagons because if anyone is wrong here's what happens 1 town wagon 1 scum wagon race to 4 votes 1 town wagon - 1 town <- scum will end up here for the win 1 scum wagon - 2 town 1 other scum wagon - 2 town 1 town wagon - 1 town <- scum will end up here 1 town wagon - 1 town <- or here 1 scum wagon - 3 town like i get why he thinks i'm scum for not voting for sicklucker right off the bat but LEGITIMATELY if we do not consolidate on 2 wagons we're screwed. and LEGITIMATELY we could still be screwed because if town votes for town, just one town player voting for just one town player, scum can pile on and win this is what i was thinking, rayn, and this is why i am demanding that we lynch between me and sicklucker if you're not going to move there's no way for us to win with more than one wagon we have to consolidate and i really wish you would try to be objective about me rayn. please fucking try >< ^ GUYS like seriously where am i wrong here? READ THIS!! i'm not even arguing that i'm not scum i'm arguing that unless we consolidate on just two wagons right now we are going to fucking lose for sure Why are you so stressed when nobody except rayn is sure you are scum ?
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because i know that he's voting for town and if we don't consolidate on two wagons we're going to lose
like seriously, what possible scum motivation can i have for saying this rels? i've literally laid out for you why town can never ever win if there are more than two wagons. we should be lynching between me and sicklucker. we can discuss lynching between me and someone else, i suppose, but regardless
if rayn will not move
we have to lynch between me and exactly one other person
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well i guess there's the remote possibility that we could still win with wagons on all 3 scum but lol >< that's not happening cause of rayn anyway so it's kinda moot
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On October 05 2015 22:58 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 22:55 LightningStrike wrote:On October 05 2015 22:39 Rels wrote:On October 05 2015 22:36 Rels wrote:On October 05 2015 22:34 rsoultin wrote:On October 05 2015 22:33 Rels wrote:
OK I've said why I thought rsoultin could be mafia. I only forgot to check one thing; I think she said D1 that we should not lynch Shining because he wasn't playing Monday / Tuesday; and she repeated it N2 or start of D3. Will do that now.
rayn I'm not seeing how rsoultin being "slow" is scum indicative. But the fact that Trfel 1. remarked the same thing and 2. died the next night is making me wonder about that
Then I'll need to do a sicklucker filter dive. rayn, I don't see how you can state he's not mafia, unless you're doing an associative read with rsoultin ... dude truffle was obviously townreading me last night there's no way that if i'm scum i nk'd him for his read on me >< he said ls and shining were town because he trusted me for god's sake >< like if you want to call me scum it can never be for this yeah but he called you out on the exact thing rayn is doing right now. And I'm not seeing how that makes anyone mafia, so that must be a meta based read. anyway I'm asking that to rayn, of course you're going to deny it, as town or mafia. actually I'm asking that to LS too. LS what's your pick on that ? We both had seen Rayn tunnel as town before regardless of the alignment of the person he's tunneling. Anyways I will check what you trying to talk about so I get a better understand on what you trying to ask me. sure. Rayn is supposedly doing a big post; if it's about the "rsoultin is too slow on evaluating certain things" stuff, it will be based on meta, so your thoughts are important, as you know rsoultin the best. At least I think ?
Honestly sometimes she's slow on evaluating certain stuff regardless of her alignment for example, In Carol of the Bells me and her didn't think HF was scum and it took us till like Day 5 or something like that to even lynch HF(HF=Holyflare if you didn't know) when he was scum. But that was back when we were noobs together.
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I am scum for re-considering a read I had on Shining. ok.
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