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On October 05 2015 22:11 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 22:08 Rels wrote:On October 05 2015 22:07 rsoultin wrote:
eh whatever i'm concentrating on determining who is scum between gb and shining today
will reread myself, make a judgment, vote for scum and apologize if i'm wrong and that ends the game...and for all our sakes i do hope i'm wrong on shining cause otherwise rayn is throwing
-_- not really anything for it unless I'm wrong, there is 0 chance you have to apologize, since there are both scum (= if you're town, rels...and i am entertaining the possibility that you could be...can you please try to reread both gb and shining without bias like i'm trying to? i need someone to talk to @.@ rayn would be the obvious choice but i can't for obvious reasons
I don't think I can for Shining, I've read his filter several times and I'm pretty sure he's mafia. I'm here to talk though
I'm reading GB's filter right now
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actually there are what, 5 town, 3 scum?
let's just vote sicklucker lol
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On October 05 2015 22:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote rsoultin
IF YOU ARE TOWN GET YOUR VOTE THERE ASAP!!!
I will expain later when i have time.
No. That is exactly how I won season of the witch; yelling at people to vote BM.
I'm pretty sure Shining and Moosy are mafia. rsoultin could be the third, but I'm never voting her over those two if you don't explain
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Please.
rsoultin is mafai and when she flips mafia there are no more "what if's"
If we lynch Shining sure, he'll flip mafia aswell but there will be "what if's".
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On October 05 2015 22:14 rsoultin wrote:
actually there are what, 5 town, 3 scum?
let's just vote sicklucker lol
oh you realized how you scumslipped. 
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vote for sicklucker
he's sure scum
if we can get 3 on sicklucker first then scum can't do anything ^^
game solved lol
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On October 05 2015 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 22:14 rsoultin wrote:
actually there are what, 5 town, 3 scum?
let's just vote sicklucker lol oh you realized how you scumslipped.
no i realized how i was wrong that splitting votes is still okay -_-
i mean if y'all want to vote me you can, but i'll flip town
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On October 05 2015 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Please.
rsoultin is mafai and when she flips mafia there are no more "what if's"
If we lynch Shining sure, he'll flip mafia aswell but there will be "what if's".
oh that is a incredibly detailed case, let me sheep it
not
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You have a tendency to "realize things" in this game when your team is about to fall apart.
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On October 05 2015 22:16 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Please.
rsoultin is mafai and when she flips mafia there are no more "what if's"
If we lynch Shining sure, he'll flip mafia aswell but there will be "what if's". oh that is a incredibly detailed case, let me sheep it not
he's saying that i should have voted sicklucker cause sicklucker has to be scum to me and he's right lol >< not that i'm mafia but that i'm slow as fuck some days
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c'mon rels you are smarter than this.
rsoultin thinks one of you/md is scum
rsoultin thinks one of gb/shining is scum
rsoultin thinks me & ls are 100% town.
rsoultind doesn't want to vote for sicklucker asap.
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Instead she wants to lynch GB....
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On October 05 2015 22:15 rsoultin wrote:
vote for sicklucker
he's sure scum
if we can get 3 on sicklucker first then scum can't do anything ^^
game solved lol
I see how you would want to do that from your POV
the problem here is I'm not sure if sicklucker or you is mafia. Or LS BTW, if you're town, you could be wrong on both LS and Shining.
So no. We're voting for the two scummiest guys
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On October 05 2015 22:17 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 22:16 Rels wrote:On October 05 2015 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Please.
rsoultin is mafai and when she flips mafia there are no more "what if's"
If we lynch Shining sure, he'll flip mafia aswell but there will be "what if's". oh that is a incredibly detailed case, let me sheep it not he's saying that i should have voted sicklucker cause sicklucker has to be scum to me and he's right lol >< not that i'm mafia but that i'm slow as fuck some days
fuck Trfel said exactly that as a reason you could be mafia
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shus...
well if you want to throw the game fine.
my vote is not moving.
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On October 05 2015 22:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You have a tendency to "realize things" in this game when your team is about to fall apart.
i'm not scum? but if we lose the game because i was being a dullard, whatever
like you voting for me means we will and i realize that part of that is i was slow, so i guess that's fine, but you really need to reconsider how you do things in the future i'm not kidding
like you should really be able to tell when i'm town by now. i'm not kidding -_- you should really be able to tell. you keep saying that it's obvious after you get nk'd that i'm town but honestly you always tunnel me and say i'm playing badly until you die
i think you just confirmation bias it out the ying-yang
sorry guys lol >< if rayn's town i've lost us the game by derping, and i think he's town so meh
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On October 05 2015 22:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
shus...
well if you want to throw the game fine.
my vote is not moving.
this is throwing
y'all may as well vote me cause scum will if he's really not moving
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It's not that you are derping once.
It's that you are derping all game long in the same manner where the other explanation is just that you are mafia because the derping tends to happen in situations where your team is under attack..
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On October 05 2015 22:06 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2015 22:03 LightningStrike wrote:On October 05 2015 22:00 Rels wrote:On October 05 2015 21:57 LightningStrike wrote:On October 05 2015 21:53 Rels wrote:On October 05 2015 21:47 LightningStrike wrote:
Something to note on Newbie Student Mafia XI: He did push for a Fake)Plant lynch before Fake)Plant had replaced out. He did default to a Geript lynch since he wasn't around EoD 1 there on Page 4 of his filter but then he played like his normal(I think). On New Personality he didn't really do much except for some mini cases until Night 2. so I can confirm that. OK thanks. Now why do you think of Moosy playing Newbie XI and obsing personality, but still scumreading me because I'm not pushing my lynch hard enough ? On October 05 2015 20:12 Rels wrote:MoosyDoosy's reasons for scumreading me are partly based on meta that are easily disproved by a meta check; and Moosy read the town games that disproved this metaOn October 05 2015 04:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels - Completely different from how he normally acts. When pursuing a scum read, he drops it immediately after one explanation which is very uncharacteristic of Rels. He also changes around his story to match the situation. There is no way that screaming about a person's supposedly scummy behavior is supposed to be a "town read". The whole time he was arguing with me, he continuously tried to fish for things as well. At this point, his scum read on me is forced. The part about "I should be playing smarter and push scumreads harder" are dismissed for the same reasons I've explained here. ResumeOn October 05 2015 19:25 Rels wrote:Most of this is based on the fact I should be playing smarter, and I should push my reads harder. This could be a valid accusation if I was always playing like that as town. But a simple meta check on my past games would have made her doubt. In two games where I was town, I didn't push my scumreads hard, and almost got lynched for that in both games. Newbie student Mafia XI => Day 1, I didn't hard push a scumread, defaulting to geript because I wasn't available at deadline. I was almost lynched D1 for that; if batsnacks hadn't found a non existent "slip" on geript, I would have been the lynch. That changed D2 when I started to play like usual. The New Personality Mafia => Day 1, I didn't do shit. I was suspected heavily and almost lynched D2 for that; if yamato wasn't jester and rayn didn't create a stupid reason to townread yamato and hammer me, I was probably dead. That changed EOD2 when I started playing like usual. And in the only game I was mafia: Season of the Witch 2 => Day 1, I was the driving force on Dandel's push, and managed to get him mislynched. BUTContrary to rsoultin, I know for a fact Moosy read the two town games referenced above. He was: - playing in Newbie XI- obsing the first days of personalitySo Moosy should know I can act like that as town. Especially if I don't have the time to play at deadline, as it was the case both Newbie XI and in this game. Sometimes people do forget and sometimes people misrepresent people although normally not on purpose and I see you think he's misrepresenting you correct? If so does that make him town or mafia? That makes him mafia because the situation in both game were similar. In both games, I didn't push my scumread D1, but I voted on a mislynch. In particular it is very similar to Newbie XI, which he was playing in. I defaulted to geript and left the thread. Exactly like D1 here, where I defaulted to coolTLname and left the thread. So him saying I'm mafia partly because I didn't push my scumreads hard enough is him using meta that he should know is false. Okay anything else on why MD is mafia? yes and you should have read it if you read the thread ? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=208#4150http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=211#4217http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=212#4223http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=212#4224
So TLDR:
His static read on Shining doesn't make sense.
Weird way of thinking of the coolTLname lynching him regard of coolTLname's alignment.
Lying about being the first one to push coolTLname.
Calling you mafia for bad reasons plus misrepresenting your meta.
That what pretty why you scumreading him?
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