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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 05 2015 13:13 GMT
#4321
On October 05 2015 22:11 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 22:08 Rels wrote:
On October 05 2015 22:07 rsoultin wrote:
eh whatever i'm concentrating on determining who is scum between gb and shining today

will reread myself, make a judgment, vote for scum and apologize if i'm wrong and that ends the game...and for all our sakes i do hope i'm wrong on shining cause otherwise rayn is throwing

-_- not really anything for it

unless I'm wrong, there is 0 chance you have to apologize, since there are both scum (=


if you're town, rels...and i am entertaining the possibility that you could be...can you please try to reread both gb and shining without bias like i'm trying to?

i need someone to talk to @.@ rayn would be the obvious choice but i can't for obvious reasons

I don't think I can for Shining, I've read his filter several times and I'm pretty sure he's mafia. I'm here to talk though
I'm reading GB's filter right now
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 13:14 GMT
#4322
actually there are what, 5 town, 3 scum?

let's just vote sicklucker lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 05 2015 13:14 GMT
#4323
On October 05 2015 22:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote rsoultin


IF YOU ARE TOWN GET YOUR VOTE THERE ASAP!!!

I will expain later when i have time.

No. That is exactly how I won season of the witch; yelling at people to vote BM.
I'm pretty sure Shining and Moosy are mafia. rsoultin could be the third, but I'm never voting her over those two if you don't explain
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 05 2015 13:14 GMT
#4324
Please.

rsoultin is mafai and when she flips mafia there are no more "what if's"
If we lynch Shining sure, he'll flip mafia aswell but there will be "what if's".
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 05 2015 13:15 GMT
#4325
On October 05 2015 22:14 rsoultin wrote:
actually there are what, 5 town, 3 scum?

let's just vote sicklucker lol

oh you realized how you scumslipped.
table for two on a tv tray
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 13:15 GMT
#4326
vote for sicklucker

he's sure scum

if we can get 3 on sicklucker first then scum can't do anything ^^

game solved lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 13:16 GMT
#4327
On October 05 2015 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 22:14 rsoultin wrote:
actually there are what, 5 town, 3 scum?

let's just vote sicklucker lol

oh you realized how you scumslipped.


no i realized how i was wrong that splitting votes is still okay -_-

i mean if y'all want to vote me you can, but i'll flip town
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 05 2015 13:16 GMT
#4328
nope
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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 05 2015 13:16 GMT
#4329
On October 05 2015 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Please.

rsoultin is mafai and when she flips mafia there are no more "what if's"
If we lynch Shining sure, he'll flip mafia aswell but there will be "what if's".

oh that is a incredibly detailed case, let me sheep it
not
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 05 2015 13:17 GMT
#4330
You have a tendency to "realize things" in this game when your team is about to fall apart.
table for two on a tv tray
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 13:17 GMT
#4331
On October 05 2015 22:16 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Please.

rsoultin is mafai and when she flips mafia there are no more "what if's"
If we lynch Shining sure, he'll flip mafia aswell but there will be "what if's".

oh that is a incredibly detailed case, let me sheep it
not


he's saying that i should have voted sicklucker cause sicklucker has to be scum to me and he's right lol >< not that i'm mafia but that i'm slow as fuck some days
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 05 2015 13:18 GMT
#4332
c'mon rels you are smarter than this.

rsoultin thinks one of you/md is scum
rsoultin thinks one of gb/shining is scum
rsoultin thinks me & ls are 100% town.

rsoultind doesn't want to vote for sicklucker asap.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 05 2015 13:19 GMT
#4333
Instead she wants to lynch GB....
table for two on a tv tray
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 05 2015 13:19 GMT
#4334
On October 05 2015 22:15 rsoultin wrote:
vote for sicklucker

he's sure scum

if we can get 3 on sicklucker first then scum can't do anything ^^

game solved lol

I see how you would want to do that from your POV
the problem here is I'm not sure if sicklucker or you is mafia. Or LS BTW, if you're town, you could be wrong on both LS and Shining.
So no. We're voting for the two scummiest guys
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 05 2015 13:20 GMT
#4335
On October 05 2015 22:17 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 22:16 Rels wrote:
On October 05 2015 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Please.

rsoultin is mafai and when she flips mafia there are no more "what if's"
If we lynch Shining sure, he'll flip mafia aswell but there will be "what if's".

oh that is a incredibly detailed case, let me sheep it
not


he's saying that i should have voted sicklucker cause sicklucker has to be scum to me and he's right lol >< not that i'm mafia but that i'm slow as fuck some days

fuck Trfel said exactly that as a reason you could be mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 05 2015 13:21 GMT
#4336
shus...
well if you want to throw the game fine.
my vote is not moving.
table for two on a tv tray
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 13:21 GMT
#4337
On October 05 2015 22:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You have a tendency to "realize things" in this game when your team is about to fall apart.


i'm not scum? but if we lose the game because i was being a dullard, whatever

like you voting for me means we will and i realize that part of that is i was slow, so i guess that's fine, but you really need to reconsider how you do things in the future i'm not kidding

like you should really be able to tell when i'm town by now. i'm not kidding -_- you should really be able to tell. you keep saying that it's obvious after you get nk'd that i'm town but honestly you always tunnel me and say i'm playing badly until you die

i think you just confirmation bias it out the ying-yang

sorry guys lol >< if rayn's town i've lost us the game by derping, and i think he's town so meh
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 13:22 GMT
#4338
On October 05 2015 22:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
shus...
well if you want to throw the game fine.
my vote is not moving.


this is throwing

y'all may as well vote me cause scum will if he's really not moving
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 05 2015 13:23 GMT
#4339
It's not that you are derping once.
It's that you are derping all game long in the same manner where the other explanation is just that you are mafia because the derping tends to happen in situations where your team is under attack..
table for two on a tv tray
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 05 2015 13:23 GMT
#4340
On October 05 2015 22:06 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 22:03 LightningStrike wrote:
On October 05 2015 22:00 Rels wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:57 LightningStrike wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:53 Rels wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:47 LightningStrike wrote:
Something to note on Newbie Student Mafia XI: He did push for a Fake)Plant lynch before Fake)Plant had replaced out. He did default to a Geript lynch since he wasn't around EoD 1 there on Page 4 of his filter but then he played like his normal(I think). On New Personality he didn't really do much except for some mini cases until Night 2. so I can confirm that.

OK thanks. Now why do you think of Moosy playing Newbie XI and obsing personality, but still scumreading me because I'm not pushing my lynch hard enough ?
On October 05 2015 20:12 Rels wrote:
MoosyDoosy's reasons for scumreading me are partly based on meta that are easily disproved by a meta check; and Moosy read the town games that disproved this meta

On October 05 2015 04:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels - Completely different from how he normally acts. When pursuing a scum read, he drops it immediately after one explanation which is very uncharacteristic of Rels. He also changes around his story to match the situation. There is no way that screaming about a person's supposedly scummy behavior is supposed to be a "town read". The whole time he was arguing with me, he continuously tried to fish for things as well. At this point, his scum read on me is forced.


The part about "I should be playing smarter and push scumreads harder" are dismissed for the same reasons I've explained here.

Resume
On October 05 2015 19:25 Rels wrote:
Most of this is based on the fact I should be playing smarter, and I should push my reads harder. This could be a valid accusation if I was always playing like that as town. But a simple meta check on my past games would have made her doubt.

In two games where I was town, I didn't push my scumreads hard, and almost got lynched for that in both games.
Newbie student Mafia XI => Day 1, I didn't hard push a scumread, defaulting to geript because I wasn't available at deadline. I was almost lynched D1 for that; if batsnacks hadn't found a non existent "slip" on geript, I would have been the lynch. That changed D2 when I started to play like usual.
The New Personality Mafia => Day 1, I didn't do shit. I was suspected heavily and almost lynched D2 for that; if yamato wasn't jester and rayn didn't create a stupid reason to townread yamato and hammer me, I was probably dead. That changed EOD2 when I started playing like usual.

And in the only game I was mafia:
Season of the Witch 2 => Day 1, I was the driving force on Dandel's push, and managed to get him mislynched.


BUT
Contrary to rsoultin, I know for a fact Moosy read the two town games referenced above. He was:
- playing in Newbie XI
- obsing the first days of personality

So Moosy should know I can act like that as town. Especially if I don't have the time to play at deadline, as it was the case both Newbie XI and in this game.


Sometimes people do forget and sometimes people misrepresent people although normally not on purpose and I see you think he's misrepresenting you correct? If so does that make him town or mafia?

That makes him mafia because the situation in both game were similar. In both games, I didn't push my scumread D1, but I voted on a mislynch.
In particular it is very similar to Newbie XI, which he was playing in. I defaulted to geript and left the thread. Exactly like D1 here, where I defaulted to coolTLname and left the thread. So him saying I'm mafia partly because I didn't push my scumreads hard enough is him using meta that he should know is false.

Okay anything else on why MD is mafia?

yes and you should have read it if you read the thread ?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=208#4150
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=211#4217
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=212#4223
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=212#4224

So TLDR:
His static read on Shining doesn't make sense.
Weird way of thinking of the coolTLname lynching him regard of coolTLname's alignment.
Lying about being the first one to push coolTLname.
Calling you mafia for bad reasons plus misrepresenting your meta.
That what pretty why you scumreading him?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
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