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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 05 2015 12:51 GMT
#4301
On October 05 2015 21:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 06:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. In id nulla non orci bibendum ultrices. Integer egestas magna vitae nibh aliquam pretium. Ut id pellentesque libero, a egestas est. Pellentesque gravida orci sit amet arcu volutpat, vel luctus arcu sollicitudin. Duis malesuada suscipit tellus vel ornare. Sed sit amet nulla neque. Praesent sollicitudin, mi id dignissim elementum, felis sapien commodo dolor, et tristique sem leo ut sem. Mauris enim urna, hendrerit sit amet dui dignissim, rsoultin consectetur nisi. Aliquam tristique lorem nec dui ornare mollis. Quisque ut ultricies lacus. In sed aliquet lectus. In aliquam elit in leo aliquam, et facilisis dui feugiat. Sed commodo ac arcu eu sagittis.

Donec in eros metus. Nulla posuere dictum sodales. Etiam nec velit sit amet erat mollis dignissim a et tellus. Nulla suscipit, neque eu euismod consequat, ex metus faucibus nunc, quis posuere nunc ante vel ex. Maecenas tristique ex nec gravida ullamcorper. Aenean convallis sapien porta eros pharetra congue ac a ex. Duis luctus neque non mauris venenatis eleifend. Nullam lorem ipsum, maximus ut felis quis, congue ultrices justo. Sed sit amet nunc a enim laoreet finibus. Nulla vel maximus ipsum. Fusce eget nibh elit. Suspendisse pellentesque tempor rhoncus. Fusce cursus ipsum vitae felis suscipit, vitae mattis enim faucibus.

Morbi nec facilisis nulla, iaculis posuere nibh. Nam mattis, augue a euismod porttitor, lorem felis imperdiet velit, ac tincidunt tortor urna ac lorem. Nam congue ex sit amet nulla ultrices, in pulvinar mi condimentum. Vestibulum ante ipsum primis in faucibus orci luctus et ultrices posuere cubilia Curae; Cras rhoncus bibendum ante eu placerat. In neque ipsum, aliquet non dapibus molestie, iaculis a elit. Cras blandit shining dui, id finibus nunc pellentesque sed. Ut lacinia est sit amet nulla posuere, non congue est cursus. Phasellus ultricies eget odio at suscipit. Vivamus blandit mauris in quam faucibus, eu efficitur dui congue. Proin hendrerit suscipit enim, sed condimentum elit tincidunt sed. Proin id mollis libero. Suspendisse vitae vehicula sapien.

Morbi cursus, dolor et euismod ullamcorper, mauris tellus porta risus, et aliquet ipsum quam in neque. Mauris iaculis sodales diam in imperdiet. Vestibulum ultricies iaculis ex vel porttitor. Donec aliquam lectus id lectus dictum ullamcorper. Duis euismod lacus ligula, sit amet vehicula nisi placerat a. Sed cursus maximus sem nec hendrerit. Duis rutrum placerat porttitor. Sed varius massa et ornare feugiat. Phasellus efficitur tempus ipsum sed auctor. Aenean hendrerit erat velit, in elementum sapien malesuada a. Phasellus elementum lacus quis blandit euismod. Nunc id blandit neque. Curabitur ut purus id ligula porttitor hendrerit.

Ut nec arcu elementum, interdum leo non, porta odio. Ut at ligula diam. Donec sit amet vestibulum ex. Nullam tincidunt velit non pharetra aliquam. Mauris fringilla turpis ut gravida eleifend. Cum sociis natoque penatibus et magnis dis parturient montes, nascetur ridiculus mus. Praesent dapibus erat ac ligula gravida, sed pretium ipsum finibus. Quisque consequat purus fringilla, elementum nibh vitae, lacinia odio. Aliquam molestie ante at ligula auctor commodo. In tincidunt efficitur auctor. Nunc eget odio nec mi finibus feugiat.

Phasellus ullamcorper ac augue quis pellentesque. Maecenas moosy luctus diam, sit amet commodo augue. Morbi tempus ornare ipsum, sit amet consequat nisl interdum et. Integer egestas ex at enim eleifend, ut tincidunt sem vehicula. Etiam mollis nulla eget odio tincidunt pharetra. Aliquam at congue eros, vitae venenatis eros. Donec non leo non arcu placerat consectetur. Curabitur dictum facilisis magna ac dictum.

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- blazinghand

ezgameezalyfe

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL FUCK THAT IS GENIUS
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 05 2015 12:53 GMT
#4302
On October 05 2015 21:47 LightningStrike wrote:
Something to note on Newbie Student Mafia XI: He did push for a Fake)Plant lynch before Fake)Plant had replaced out. He did default to a Geript lynch since he wasn't around EoD 1 there on Page 4 of his filter but then he played like his normal(I think). On New Personality he didn't really do much except for some mini cases until Night 2. so I can confirm that.

OK thanks. Now why do you think of Moosy playing Newbie XI and obsing personality, but still scumreading me because I'm not pushing my lynch hard enough ?
On October 05 2015 20:12 Rels wrote:
MoosyDoosy's reasons for scumreading me are partly based on meta that are easily disproved by a meta check; and Moosy read the town games that disproved this meta

Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 04:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels - Completely different from how he normally acts. When pursuing a scum read, he drops it immediately after one explanation which is very uncharacteristic of Rels. He also changes around his story to match the situation. There is no way that screaming about a person's supposedly scummy behavior is supposed to be a "town read". The whole time he was arguing with me, he continuously tried to fish for things as well. At this point, his scum read on me is forced.


The part about "I should be playing smarter and push scumreads harder" are dismissed for the same reasons I've explained here.

Resume
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 19:25 Rels wrote:
Most of this is based on the fact I should be playing smarter, and I should push my reads harder. This could be a valid accusation if I was always playing like that as town. But a simple meta check on my past games would have made her doubt.

In two games where I was town, I didn't push my scumreads hard, and almost got lynched for that in both games.
Newbie student Mafia XI => Day 1, I didn't hard push a scumread, defaulting to geript because I wasn't available at deadline. I was almost lynched D1 for that; if batsnacks hadn't found a non existent "slip" on geript, I would have been the lynch. That changed D2 when I started to play like usual.
The New Personality Mafia => Day 1, I didn't do shit. I was suspected heavily and almost lynched D2 for that; if yamato wasn't jester and rayn didn't create a stupid reason to townread yamato and hammer me, I was probably dead. That changed EOD2 when I started playing like usual.

And in the only game I was mafia:
Season of the Witch 2 => Day 1, I was the driving force on Dandel's push, and managed to get him mislynched.


BUT
Contrary to rsoultin, I know for a fact Moosy read the two town games referenced above. He was:
- playing in Newbie XI
- obsing the first days of personality

So Moosy should know I can act like that as town. Especially if I don't have the time to play at deadline, as it was the case both Newbie XI and in this game.

rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 12:53 GMT
#4303
On October 05 2015 21:50 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 21:48 Rels wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:45 rsoultin wrote:
hn...i dunnae maybe that's not completely solid is it?

rels can't be scum with md cause d2
gb can't be scum with shining cause d2

one could be erroneously townreading the other, though

so actually it's rels or md....and then shining or gb

so i think today we have to decide between shining and gb to vote cause rayn's an ass and has decided for us by voting right out the gate, while not doing anything else other than looking for rsoul scumslips @.@

On October 05 2015 21:42 rsoultin wrote:
we either lynch into gb/rels or shining/md

that's two scum right there lol ><


that's not making sense
If GB can't be scum with Shining
and GB can't be scum with Rels
and Rels can't be scum with Moosy
Then your scumteam is Shining / Rels

Oh you meant the team were either GB / Rels or GB / Shining
My bad


-squints at-

no i mean exactly what i said?

you or md is mafia

gb or shining is mafia

but sl is voting for shining. the thing is, that matters less now than if he ends that way, cause he can just move his vote last minute this is annoying ><

like if i could get rayn to vote for sl we'd be fine but he won't cause he's been tunneled on me all game so he's going to sit there crowing that he's right till the end of time
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 05 2015 12:55 GMT
#4304
On October 05 2015 21:53 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 21:50 Rels wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:48 Rels wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:45 rsoultin wrote:
hn...i dunnae maybe that's not completely solid is it?

rels can't be scum with md cause d2
gb can't be scum with shining cause d2

one could be erroneously townreading the other, though

so actually it's rels or md....and then shining or gb

so i think today we have to decide between shining and gb to vote cause rayn's an ass and has decided for us by voting right out the gate, while not doing anything else other than looking for rsoul scumslips @.@

On October 05 2015 21:42 rsoultin wrote:
we either lynch into gb/rels or shining/md

that's two scum right there lol ><


that's not making sense
If GB can't be scum with Shining
and GB can't be scum with Rels
and Rels can't be scum with Moosy
Then your scumteam is Shining / Rels

Oh you meant the team were either GB / Rels or GB / Shining
My bad


-squints at-

no i mean exactly what i said?

you or md is mafia

gb or shining is mafia

but sl is voting for shining. the thing is, that matters less now than if he ends that way, cause he can just move his vote last minute this is annoying ><

like if i could get rayn to vote for sl we'd be fine but he won't cause he's been tunneled on me all game so he's going to sit there crowing that he's right till the end of time

Then I don't understand this two sentences:
On October 05 2015 21:42 rsoultin wrote:
we either lynch into gb/rels or shining/md

that's two scum right there lol ><
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 12:57 GMT
#4305
maybe i should just vote for shining and blame rayn if we lose lol >< since that's effectively what he's done

like i think i could talk till i was blue in the face and he'd still hold on to his biases...just hope i'm wrong, think i'm not, and call rayn bad at the end for scumreading and voting on only town

lol that may actually be okay ^^

rayn are you ever going to even attempt to listen to me or see me as town this game or should i just vote shining and say yolo? real talk right now

are you ever going to drop the tunnel on me or shining? or at least read what i'm doing with a neutral mindset?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 05 2015 12:57 GMT
#4306
On October 05 2015 21:53 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 21:47 LightningStrike wrote:
Something to note on Newbie Student Mafia XI: He did push for a Fake)Plant lynch before Fake)Plant had replaced out. He did default to a Geript lynch since he wasn't around EoD 1 there on Page 4 of his filter but then he played like his normal(I think). On New Personality he didn't really do much except for some mini cases until Night 2. so I can confirm that.

OK thanks. Now why do you think of Moosy playing Newbie XI and obsing personality, but still scumreading me because I'm not pushing my lynch hard enough ?
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 20:12 Rels wrote:
MoosyDoosy's reasons for scumreading me are partly based on meta that are easily disproved by a meta check; and Moosy read the town games that disproved this meta

On October 05 2015 04:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels - Completely different from how he normally acts. When pursuing a scum read, he drops it immediately after one explanation which is very uncharacteristic of Rels. He also changes around his story to match the situation. There is no way that screaming about a person's supposedly scummy behavior is supposed to be a "town read". The whole time he was arguing with me, he continuously tried to fish for things as well. At this point, his scum read on me is forced.


The part about "I should be playing smarter and push scumreads harder" are dismissed for the same reasons I've explained here.

Resume
On October 05 2015 19:25 Rels wrote:
Most of this is based on the fact I should be playing smarter, and I should push my reads harder. This could be a valid accusation if I was always playing like that as town. But a simple meta check on my past games would have made her doubt.

In two games where I was town, I didn't push my scumreads hard, and almost got lynched for that in both games.
Newbie student Mafia XI => Day 1, I didn't hard push a scumread, defaulting to geript because I wasn't available at deadline. I was almost lynched D1 for that; if batsnacks hadn't found a non existent "slip" on geript, I would have been the lynch. That changed D2 when I started to play like usual.
The New Personality Mafia => Day 1, I didn't do shit. I was suspected heavily and almost lynched D2 for that; if yamato wasn't jester and rayn didn't create a stupid reason to townread yamato and hammer me, I was probably dead. That changed EOD2 when I started playing like usual.

And in the only game I was mafia:
Season of the Witch 2 => Day 1, I was the driving force on Dandel's push, and managed to get him mislynched.


BUT
Contrary to rsoultin, I know for a fact Moosy read the two town games referenced above. He was:
- playing in Newbie XI
- obsing the first days of personality

So Moosy should know I can act like that as town. Especially if I don't have the time to play at deadline, as it was the case both Newbie XI and in this game.


Sometimes people do forget and sometimes people misrepresent people although normally not on purpose and I see you think he's misrepresenting you correct? If so does that make him town or mafia?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 05 2015 12:58 GMT
#4307
On October 05 2015 21:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 06:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. In id nulla non orci bibendum ultrices. Integer egestas magna vitae nibh aliquam pretium. Ut id pellentesque libero, a egestas est. Pellentesque gravida orci sit amet arcu volutpat, vel luctus arcu sollicitudin. Duis malesuada suscipit tellus vel ornare. Sed sit amet nulla neque. Praesent sollicitudin, mi id dignissim elementum, felis sapien commodo dolor, et tristique sem leo ut sem. Mauris enim urna, hendrerit sit amet dui dignissim, rsoultin consectetur nisi. Aliquam tristique lorem nec dui ornare mollis. Quisque ut ultricies lacus. In sed aliquet lectus. In aliquam elit in leo aliquam, et facilisis dui feugiat. Sed commodo ac arcu eu sagittis.

Donec in eros metus. Nulla posuere dictum sodales. Etiam nec velit sit amet erat mollis dignissim a et tellus. Nulla suscipit, neque eu euismod consequat, ex metus faucibus nunc, quis posuere nunc ante vel ex. Maecenas tristique ex nec gravida ullamcorper. Aenean convallis sapien porta eros pharetra congue ac a ex. Duis luctus neque non mauris venenatis eleifend. Nullam lorem ipsum, maximus ut felis quis, congue ultrices justo. Sed sit amet nunc a enim laoreet finibus. Nulla vel maximus ipsum. Fusce eget nibh elit. Suspendisse pellentesque tempor rhoncus. Fusce cursus ipsum vitae felis suscipit, vitae mattis enim faucibus.

Morbi nec facilisis nulla, iaculis posuere nibh. Nam mattis, augue a euismod porttitor, lorem felis imperdiet velit, ac tincidunt tortor urna ac lorem. Nam congue ex sit amet nulla ultrices, in pulvinar mi condimentum. Vestibulum ante ipsum primis in faucibus orci luctus et ultrices posuere cubilia Curae; Cras rhoncus bibendum ante eu placerat. In neque ipsum, aliquet non dapibus molestie, iaculis a elit. Cras blandit shining dui, id finibus nunc pellentesque sed. Ut lacinia est sit amet nulla posuere, non congue est cursus. Phasellus ultricies eget odio at suscipit. Vivamus blandit mauris in quam faucibus, eu efficitur dui congue. Proin hendrerit suscipit enim, sed condimentum elit tincidunt sed. Proin id mollis libero. Suspendisse vitae vehicula sapien.

Morbi cursus, dolor et euismod ullamcorper, mauris tellus porta risus, et aliquet ipsum quam in neque. Mauris iaculis sodales diam in imperdiet. Vestibulum ultricies iaculis ex vel porttitor. Donec aliquam lectus id lectus dictum ullamcorper. Duis euismod lacus ligula, sit amet vehicula nisi placerat a. Sed cursus maximus sem nec hendrerit. Duis rutrum placerat porttitor. Sed varius massa et ornare feugiat. Phasellus efficitur tempus ipsum sed auctor. Aenean hendrerit erat velit, in elementum sapien malesuada a. Phasellus elementum lacus quis blandit euismod. Nunc id blandit neque. Curabitur ut purus id ligula porttitor hendrerit.

Ut nec arcu elementum, interdum leo non, porta odio. Ut at ligula diam. Donec sit amet vestibulum ex. Nullam tincidunt velit non pharetra aliquam. Mauris fringilla turpis ut gravida eleifend. Cum sociis natoque penatibus et magnis dis parturient montes, nascetur ridiculus mus. Praesent dapibus erat ac ligula gravida, sed pretium ipsum finibus. Quisque consequat purus fringilla, elementum nibh vitae, lacinia odio. Aliquam molestie ante at ligula auctor commodo. In tincidunt efficitur auctor. Nunc eget odio nec mi finibus feugiat.

Phasellus ullamcorper ac augue quis pellentesque. Maecenas moosy luctus diam, sit amet commodo augue. Morbi tempus ornare ipsum, sit amet consequat nisl interdum et. Integer egestas ex at enim eleifend, ut tincidunt sem vehicula. Etiam mollis nulla eget odio tincidunt pharetra. Aliquam at congue eros, vitae venenatis eros. Donec non leo non arcu placerat consectetur. Curabitur dictum facilisis magna ac dictum.

Vestibulum iaculis varius tempor. Vestibulum tristique mi vel est aliquet, vitae ornare enim lacinia. Nam maximus a nunc id gravida. Cras cursus dolor vitae quam porta accumsan. Nunc viverra auctor odio.

- blazinghand

ezgameezalyfe

Care to translate everything into english since none of us can read latin?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 12:58 GMT
#4308
On October 05 2015 21:55 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 21:53 rsoultin wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:50 Rels wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:48 Rels wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:45 rsoultin wrote:
hn...i dunnae maybe that's not completely solid is it?

rels can't be scum with md cause d2
gb can't be scum with shining cause d2

one could be erroneously townreading the other, though

so actually it's rels or md....and then shining or gb

so i think today we have to decide between shining and gb to vote cause rayn's an ass and has decided for us by voting right out the gate, while not doing anything else other than looking for rsoul scumslips @.@

On October 05 2015 21:42 rsoultin wrote:
we either lynch into gb/rels or shining/md

that's two scum right there lol ><


that's not making sense
If GB can't be scum with Shining
and GB can't be scum with Rels
and Rels can't be scum with Moosy
Then your scumteam is Shining / Rels

Oh you meant the team were either GB / Rels or GB / Shining
My bad


-squints at-

no i mean exactly what i said?

you or md is mafia

gb or shining is mafia

but sl is voting for shining. the thing is, that matters less now than if he ends that way, cause he can just move his vote last minute this is annoying ><

like if i could get rayn to vote for sl we'd be fine but he won't cause he's been tunneled on me all game so he's going to sit there crowing that he's right till the end of time

Then I don't understand this two sentences:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 21:42 rsoultin wrote:
we either lynch into gb/rels or shining/md

that's two scum right there lol ><


yeah i realized that wasn't right cause town could read scum as town so that doesn't mean you have to be scum with gb if he's scum, rels. i took the association too far and was correcting myself
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 05 2015 13:00 GMT
#4309
On October 05 2015 21:57 rsoultin wrote:
maybe i should just vote for shining and blame rayn if we lose lol >< since that's effectively what he's done

like i think i could talk till i was blue in the face and he'd still hold on to his biases...just hope i'm wrong, think i'm not, and call rayn bad at the end for scumreading and voting on only town

lol that may actually be okay ^^

rayn are you ever going to even attempt to listen to me or see me as town this game or should i just vote shining and say yolo? real talk right now

are you ever going to drop the tunnel on me or shining? or at least read what i'm doing with a neutral mindset?

Don't pull a me Tina
I did that a LYLO vs Unholyflare and someone else(I can't remember the name because it been sometime since I played that game) and you saw what happened -_-
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 05 2015 13:00 GMT
#4310
On October 05 2015 21:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 21:53 Rels wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:47 LightningStrike wrote:
Something to note on Newbie Student Mafia XI: He did push for a Fake)Plant lynch before Fake)Plant had replaced out. He did default to a Geript lynch since he wasn't around EoD 1 there on Page 4 of his filter but then he played like his normal(I think). On New Personality he didn't really do much except for some mini cases until Night 2. so I can confirm that.

OK thanks. Now why do you think of Moosy playing Newbie XI and obsing personality, but still scumreading me because I'm not pushing my lynch hard enough ?
On October 05 2015 20:12 Rels wrote:
MoosyDoosy's reasons for scumreading me are partly based on meta that are easily disproved by a meta check; and Moosy read the town games that disproved this meta

On October 05 2015 04:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels - Completely different from how he normally acts. When pursuing a scum read, he drops it immediately after one explanation which is very uncharacteristic of Rels. He also changes around his story to match the situation. There is no way that screaming about a person's supposedly scummy behavior is supposed to be a "town read". The whole time he was arguing with me, he continuously tried to fish for things as well. At this point, his scum read on me is forced.


The part about "I should be playing smarter and push scumreads harder" are dismissed for the same reasons I've explained here.

Resume
On October 05 2015 19:25 Rels wrote:
Most of this is based on the fact I should be playing smarter, and I should push my reads harder. This could be a valid accusation if I was always playing like that as town. But a simple meta check on my past games would have made her doubt.

In two games where I was town, I didn't push my scumreads hard, and almost got lynched for that in both games.
Newbie student Mafia XI => Day 1, I didn't hard push a scumread, defaulting to geript because I wasn't available at deadline. I was almost lynched D1 for that; if batsnacks hadn't found a non existent "slip" on geript, I would have been the lynch. That changed D2 when I started to play like usual.
The New Personality Mafia => Day 1, I didn't do shit. I was suspected heavily and almost lynched D2 for that; if yamato wasn't jester and rayn didn't create a stupid reason to townread yamato and hammer me, I was probably dead. That changed EOD2 when I started playing like usual.

And in the only game I was mafia:
Season of the Witch 2 => Day 1, I was the driving force on Dandel's push, and managed to get him mislynched.


BUT
Contrary to rsoultin, I know for a fact Moosy read the two town games referenced above. He was:
- playing in Newbie XI
- obsing the first days of personality

So Moosy should know I can act like that as town. Especially if I don't have the time to play at deadline, as it was the case both Newbie XI and in this game.


Sometimes people do forget and sometimes people misrepresent people although normally not on purpose and I see you think he's misrepresenting you correct? If so does that make him town or mafia?

That makes him mafia because the situation in both game were similar. In both games, I didn't push my scumread D1, but I voted on a mislynch.
In particular it is very similar to Newbie XI, which he was playing in. I defaulted to geript and left the thread. Exactly like D1 here, where I defaulted to coolTLname and left the thread. So him saying I'm mafia partly because I didn't push my scumreads hard enough is him using meta that he should know is false.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 13:02 GMT
#4311
On October 05 2015 22:00 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 21:57 rsoultin wrote:
maybe i should just vote for shining and blame rayn if we lose lol >< since that's effectively what he's done

like i think i could talk till i was blue in the face and he'd still hold on to his biases...just hope i'm wrong, think i'm not, and call rayn bad at the end for scumreading and voting on only town

lol that may actually be okay ^^

rayn are you ever going to even attempt to listen to me or see me as town this game or should i just vote shining and say yolo? real talk right now

are you ever going to drop the tunnel on me or shining? or at least read what i'm doing with a neutral mindset?

Don't pull a me Tina
I did that a LYLO vs Unholyflare and someone else(I can't remember the name because it been sometime since I played that game) and you saw what happened -_-


well the problem here, ls

is if rayn has decided that shining is scum and he won't move for anything come hell or high water, and he's wrong...and i'm the only one who thinks he could be but he's certain that i'm scum cause he's a dimwit, so eh won't listen to me...then effectively town has already lost because scum just piles on there

like i'd like to think he'd be smart enough to go hey there's already 4 votes here maybe i'm wrong but i don't think he can look past his scumread on me

i could be wrong, too? i just don't think i am
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 05 2015 13:03 GMT
#4312
On October 05 2015 22:00 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 21:57 LightningStrike wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:53 Rels wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:47 LightningStrike wrote:
Something to note on Newbie Student Mafia XI: He did push for a Fake)Plant lynch before Fake)Plant had replaced out. He did default to a Geript lynch since he wasn't around EoD 1 there on Page 4 of his filter but then he played like his normal(I think). On New Personality he didn't really do much except for some mini cases until Night 2. so I can confirm that.

OK thanks. Now why do you think of Moosy playing Newbie XI and obsing personality, but still scumreading me because I'm not pushing my lynch hard enough ?
On October 05 2015 20:12 Rels wrote:
MoosyDoosy's reasons for scumreading me are partly based on meta that are easily disproved by a meta check; and Moosy read the town games that disproved this meta

On October 05 2015 04:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels - Completely different from how he normally acts. When pursuing a scum read, he drops it immediately after one explanation which is very uncharacteristic of Rels. He also changes around his story to match the situation. There is no way that screaming about a person's supposedly scummy behavior is supposed to be a "town read". The whole time he was arguing with me, he continuously tried to fish for things as well. At this point, his scum read on me is forced.


The part about "I should be playing smarter and push scumreads harder" are dismissed for the same reasons I've explained here.

Resume
On October 05 2015 19:25 Rels wrote:
Most of this is based on the fact I should be playing smarter, and I should push my reads harder. This could be a valid accusation if I was always playing like that as town. But a simple meta check on my past games would have made her doubt.

In two games where I was town, I didn't push my scumreads hard, and almost got lynched for that in both games.
Newbie student Mafia XI => Day 1, I didn't hard push a scumread, defaulting to geript because I wasn't available at deadline. I was almost lynched D1 for that; if batsnacks hadn't found a non existent "slip" on geript, I would have been the lynch. That changed D2 when I started to play like usual.
The New Personality Mafia => Day 1, I didn't do shit. I was suspected heavily and almost lynched D2 for that; if yamato wasn't jester and rayn didn't create a stupid reason to townread yamato and hammer me, I was probably dead. That changed EOD2 when I started playing like usual.

And in the only game I was mafia:
Season of the Witch 2 => Day 1, I was the driving force on Dandel's push, and managed to get him mislynched.


BUT
Contrary to rsoultin, I know for a fact Moosy read the two town games referenced above. He was:
- playing in Newbie XI
- obsing the first days of personality

So Moosy should know I can act like that as town. Especially if I don't have the time to play at deadline, as it was the case both Newbie XI and in this game.


Sometimes people do forget and sometimes people misrepresent people although normally not on purpose and I see you think he's misrepresenting you correct? If so does that make him town or mafia?

That makes him mafia because the situation in both game were similar. In both games, I didn't push my scumread D1, but I voted on a mislynch.
In particular it is very similar to Newbie XI, which he was playing in. I defaulted to geript and left the thread. Exactly like D1 here, where I defaulted to coolTLname and left the thread. So him saying I'm mafia partly because I didn't push my scumreads hard enough is him using meta that he should know is false.

Okay anything else on why MD is mafia?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
October 05 2015 13:05 GMT
#4313
On October 05 2015 22:02 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 22:00 LightningStrike wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:57 rsoultin wrote:
maybe i should just vote for shining and blame rayn if we lose lol >< since that's effectively what he's done

like i think i could talk till i was blue in the face and he'd still hold on to his biases...just hope i'm wrong, think i'm not, and call rayn bad at the end for scumreading and voting on only town

lol that may actually be okay ^^

rayn are you ever going to even attempt to listen to me or see me as town this game or should i just vote shining and say yolo? real talk right now

are you ever going to drop the tunnel on me or shining? or at least read what i'm doing with a neutral mindset?

Don't pull a me Tina
I did that a LYLO vs Unholyflare and someone else(I can't remember the name because it been sometime since I played that game) and you saw what happened -_-


well the problem here, ls

is if rayn has decided that shining is scum and he won't move for anything come hell or high water, and he's wrong...and i'm the only one who thinks he could be but he's certain that i'm scum cause he's a dimwit, so eh won't listen to me...then effectively town has already lost because scum just piles on there

like i'd like to think he'd be smart enough to go hey there's already 4 votes here maybe i'm wrong but i don't think he can look past his scumread on me

i could be wrong, too? i just don't think i am

Why is he not wanting to push for your lynch today when you are his biggest scumread?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 05 2015 13:06 GMT
#4314
On October 05 2015 22:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 22:00 Rels wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:57 LightningStrike wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:53 Rels wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:47 LightningStrike wrote:
Something to note on Newbie Student Mafia XI: He did push for a Fake)Plant lynch before Fake)Plant had replaced out. He did default to a Geript lynch since he wasn't around EoD 1 there on Page 4 of his filter but then he played like his normal(I think). On New Personality he didn't really do much except for some mini cases until Night 2. so I can confirm that.

OK thanks. Now why do you think of Moosy playing Newbie XI and obsing personality, but still scumreading me because I'm not pushing my lynch hard enough ?
On October 05 2015 20:12 Rels wrote:
MoosyDoosy's reasons for scumreading me are partly based on meta that are easily disproved by a meta check; and Moosy read the town games that disproved this meta

On October 05 2015 04:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels - Completely different from how he normally acts. When pursuing a scum read, he drops it immediately after one explanation which is very uncharacteristic of Rels. He also changes around his story to match the situation. There is no way that screaming about a person's supposedly scummy behavior is supposed to be a "town read". The whole time he was arguing with me, he continuously tried to fish for things as well. At this point, his scum read on me is forced.


The part about "I should be playing smarter and push scumreads harder" are dismissed for the same reasons I've explained here.

Resume
On October 05 2015 19:25 Rels wrote:
Most of this is based on the fact I should be playing smarter, and I should push my reads harder. This could be a valid accusation if I was always playing like that as town. But a simple meta check on my past games would have made her doubt.

In two games where I was town, I didn't push my scumreads hard, and almost got lynched for that in both games.
Newbie student Mafia XI => Day 1, I didn't hard push a scumread, defaulting to geript because I wasn't available at deadline. I was almost lynched D1 for that; if batsnacks hadn't found a non existent "slip" on geript, I would have been the lynch. That changed D2 when I started to play like usual.
The New Personality Mafia => Day 1, I didn't do shit. I was suspected heavily and almost lynched D2 for that; if yamato wasn't jester and rayn didn't create a stupid reason to townread yamato and hammer me, I was probably dead. That changed EOD2 when I started playing like usual.

And in the only game I was mafia:
Season of the Witch 2 => Day 1, I was the driving force on Dandel's push, and managed to get him mislynched.


BUT
Contrary to rsoultin, I know for a fact Moosy read the two town games referenced above. He was:
- playing in Newbie XI
- obsing the first days of personality

So Moosy should know I can act like that as town. Especially if I don't have the time to play at deadline, as it was the case both Newbie XI and in this game.


Sometimes people do forget and sometimes people misrepresent people although normally not on purpose and I see you think he's misrepresenting you correct? If so does that make him town or mafia?

That makes him mafia because the situation in both game were similar. In both games, I didn't push my scumread D1, but I voted on a mislynch.
In particular it is very similar to Newbie XI, which he was playing in. I defaulted to geript and left the thread. Exactly like D1 here, where I defaulted to coolTLname and left the thread. So him saying I'm mafia partly because I didn't push my scumreads hard enough is him using meta that he should know is false.

Okay anything else on why MD is mafia?

yes and you should have read it if you read the thread ?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=208#4150
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=211#4217
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=212#4223
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=212#4224
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 13:07 GMT
#4315
eh whatever i'm concentrating on determining who is scum between gb and shining today

will reread myself, make a judgment, vote for scum and apologize if i'm wrong and that ends the game...and for all our sakes i do hope i'm wrong on shining cause otherwise rayn is throwing

-_- not really anything for it
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 05 2015 13:08 GMT
#4316
On October 05 2015 22:07 rsoultin wrote:
eh whatever i'm concentrating on determining who is scum between gb and shining today

will reread myself, make a judgment, vote for scum and apologize if i'm wrong and that ends the game...and for all our sakes i do hope i'm wrong on shining cause otherwise rayn is throwing

-_- not really anything for it

unless I'm wrong, there is 0 chance you have to apologize, since there are both scum (=
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 13:08 GMT
#4317
On October 05 2015 22:05 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 22:02 rsoultin wrote:
On October 05 2015 22:00 LightningStrike wrote:
On October 05 2015 21:57 rsoultin wrote:
maybe i should just vote for shining and blame rayn if we lose lol >< since that's effectively what he's done

like i think i could talk till i was blue in the face and he'd still hold on to his biases...just hope i'm wrong, think i'm not, and call rayn bad at the end for scumreading and voting on only town

lol that may actually be okay ^^

rayn are you ever going to even attempt to listen to me or see me as town this game or should i just vote shining and say yolo? real talk right now

are you ever going to drop the tunnel on me or shining? or at least read what i'm doing with a neutral mindset?

Don't pull a me Tina
I did that a LYLO vs Unholyflare and someone else(I can't remember the name because it been sometime since I played that game) and you saw what happened -_-


well the problem here, ls

is if rayn has decided that shining is scum and he won't move for anything come hell or high water, and he's wrong...and i'm the only one who thinks he could be but he's certain that i'm scum cause he's a dimwit, so eh won't listen to me...then effectively town has already lost because scum just piles on there

like i'd like to think he'd be smart enough to go hey there's already 4 votes here maybe i'm wrong but i don't think he can look past his scumread on me

i could be wrong, too? i just don't think i am

Why is he not wanting to push for your lynch today when you are his biggest scumread?


ask him that -_- i really don't care cause i'm pretty sure that he's town anyway and i don't want to think about what nonsense is going through his head right now
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 05 2015 13:08 GMT
#4318
On October 05 2015 22:08 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 22:07 rsoultin wrote:
eh whatever i'm concentrating on determining who is scum between gb and shining today

will reread myself, make a judgment, vote for scum and apologize if i'm wrong and that ends the game...and for all our sakes i do hope i'm wrong on shining cause otherwise rayn is throwing

-_- not really anything for it

unless I'm wrong, there is 0 chance you have to apologize, since there are both scum (=

fuck I thought you said moosy or shining
yes there is a chance you're apologizing then
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
October 05 2015 13:11 GMT
#4319
On October 05 2015 22:08 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2015 22:07 rsoultin wrote:
eh whatever i'm concentrating on determining who is scum between gb and shining today

will reread myself, make a judgment, vote for scum and apologize if i'm wrong and that ends the game...and for all our sakes i do hope i'm wrong on shining cause otherwise rayn is throwing

-_- not really anything for it

unless I'm wrong, there is 0 chance you have to apologize, since there are both scum (=


if you're town, rels...and i am entertaining the possibility that you could be...can you please try to reread both gb and shining without bias like i'm trying to?

i need someone to talk to @.@ rayn would be the obvious choice but i can't for obvious reasons
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 05 2015 13:12 GMT
#4320
##unvote
##vote rsoultin


IF YOU ARE TOWN GET YOUR VOTE THERE ASAP!!!

I will expain later when i have time.
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