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GlowingBear
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Trfel
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On October 05 2015 06:42 MoosyDoosy wrote: That's exactly what you're doing, which is why I made those posts?idk Trfel is being a dumb by interpreting my posts in the completely wrong direction than they're clearly intended lol. | ||
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On October 05 2015 06:43 Trfel wrote: That's exactly what you're doing, which is why I made those posts? calm down. it was just a joke. like no need to get so worked up over it geezus. | ||
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Trfel
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On October 05 2015 06:44 MoosyDoosy wrote: Yeah, okay, you're mafia.calm down. it was just a joke. like no need to get so worked up over it geezus. Reason: I said so. | ||
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rsoultin
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The Never Lynches rayn - much as I hate to admit it, he still managed to question (if with a good deal of bias) his scumreads as well as worked with other players to discuss reads, which generally is a sign he's town, especially when he's this invested. his scum play is more similar to taking a wrecking ball and just screaming everyone down. also his reaction post-flip, while shameful, was much more in line with a frustrated town rayn than a fake emotional reaction from scum. rayn is town trfel - if i die, take a look at the d1 votes. that in and of itself confirms trfel. beyond that, his pushes on both sicklucker and the shining are pretty classic trfel, and even without the votes from d1 to confirm him town, there's the matter of his frustration with us for not paying attention to his case, and a lot of little mannerisms that probably mean more to me than they do to you guys. but him being willing to admit to being lost while still pushing what he believes is pretty townie on its own lightningstrike - the post where he flew off the handle at rayn is not something lightningstrike is capable of as scum. period. i know that people don't get him, they don't like his parroting, and they don't like his summarizing. well...too bad. that's just lightningstrike. the fact that he does actually disagree with some of the leaders of the thread at different times means he still has a mind of his own and is willing to talk about it. and quite simply...that outburst is not something he is capable of. ls posts baby seals when he's caught as scum . he does not scream at people scumreading him. two completely different mindsets The Pretty Damn Town (but there's admittedly a small chance that I could be wrong) Shining - all his posts were pointed, and if they didn't end in firm reads they at least brought up concerns to address with other players to get him to firm reads. His emotional reaction to trfel's case was hugely town-indicative for him...Shining tends to get pretty angry about being scumread for things that are not real scumreads (sorry trfel!) when he's town. I'm not 100% (closer to 90%) that he couldn't play this way as scum, so he's not in the never lynch pile, but you'd be fools to look to lynch him anytime soon MoosyDoosy - cause reasons. just make sure that he makes sense. Shining, I trust you know what I mean here Big Baddies Rels - his investment is small, his brain has left the building, he doesn't even know his own mind and claims that he was having doubts on cool before the wall post of fluff where nothing in his posting leading up to that indicates that he plans to consider lynching anyone but cool (scumreads aside, just check his filter). his push on cool was asinine given cool had said many times that he'd played on whatever that site is, SC2, that is pretty roles based. must be a smurf or a lurker. tch. he keeps missing things from context that either strongly suggests he doesn't care what he's reading, is deliberately ignoring it, or is only reading filters and not the thread. lynch with fire GB - assuming that rels flips scum (and he will) that clears moosy (beyond what i believe already). and GB clears shining given the "reaction test" could have resulted in shining's lynch. quite simply, even though GB is fully capable of doing a reaction test type thing, his "whatever, we're lynching town" post when switching his vote back is not in line with that assertion. his complete disregard for the fact that no wagon formed on shining or (more realistically given it's gb) his lack of screaming that trfel was scum for voting shining with him in those lovely association reads things he does as town, makes it clear he wasn't doing the shining wagon for any particular purpose. the correct conclusion for no counterwagon on shining forming is that cool is town, or that trfel is scum trying to get his scummate off if GB still thinks cool is lock scum. he came to no such conclusions. GB is scum lying through his teeth The PoE'd sicklucker - gotta give it to you, man, your scumgame is improving. problem is, rels and gb are almost definitely scum and if they're scum the only one left who could be is you. sicklucker's lack of interest in the game last day phase supports that, as does his assertion that he read my filter and came up with no reads. sometimes my reads are pretty hidden or not stated directly. but there were list posts so he definitely did not read my filter. one thing sicklucker struggles with as scum and will readily admit is he can't keep his activity up past d1...sound familiar? TLDR rels is definitely scum. lynch him tomorrow. gb is probably scum and if you go onto a third day, lynch sicklucker never lynch rayn, trfel or ls if you do consider shining or moosy, be very very sure | ||
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Rels
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First, we will probably be 5v3 tomorrow IE triple LYLO. At LYLO, you have to re evaluate your reads, cause one mislynch and its over. We don't want a scum to sit passively because he is townread by a majority of town. In light of this, I ask everybody the following: Reread everybody s filter tomorrow and focus on your hard reads first. If you don't have the time, 6 is the bare minimum, as you will be assured to read at least one mafia filter. I will do that. In case I die though, here are my current reads: The Shining is probably mafia. My filter analysis and Trfel s case are in spoiler. + Show Spoiler + On October 03 2015 17:37 Rels wrote: OK Shining's filter at first glance seems OK. But: 1. he is focusing a lot of his posts on coolTLname, who is arleady voted by most of the town. 2. his recent townread on Moosy is weird: + Show Spoiler + On September 30 2015 09:57 The Shining wrote: [...] Idk what to think about SL either but I do know as games go on, it becomes blatantly obvious whether he is scum or not. Moosy and Trfel are question marks for me that I won't give a read on until I'm done filter diving them. Starting with this post, Shinig started filter diving and questioning Moosy about stuff. His read on Moosy became more and more on the scum side, culminating in these posts EON1 / start of D2: On October 02 2015 06:18 The Shining wrote: I believe in cool. I need to revisit the RSo cases but your last summary post of her actions are starting to make me wonder, if its all true. This wouldn't be the first time I hard towned scum RSo =/ but her play that game was different. LS is questionable/bad town at best, scum at worst but I still live in a world where both him and cool can't be scum. =/ LS sheeped onto cool and idk if he's confident enough as scum to bus D1. And yeah Moosy is/should be on that list, too, if LS or cool were to flip town. On October 02 2015 08:26 The Shining wrote: This response to a pocketing accusation is soooo bad. You tried to buddy me twice saying we got the train on cool going then when I ask about it being a pocket, you slip and admit you voted without reasoning. Am I wrong here? Cuz if not I wanna lynch Moosy, this is bad. But then he threw all this progression away just there: On October 03 2015 04:40 The Shining wrote: Actually yeah wow this. Bah Moosy can be town, there's no way we keep having mind melds like this. And he didn't scumread him anymore in the rest of his posts. 3. his push is Trfel is very non commital, and we don't really know what his final read is: + Show Spoiler + On October 03 2015 05:05 The Shining wrote: Did Trfel ever answer this? All I saw was him saying he thought cool was town and that their talk was getting nowhere. After saying he'd lynch cool because even if he's town because he's not helpful to town. That's a weird progression and considering I think rayn is town and cool is scum, it seems pretty weird to not take a side here or even analyze what the arguments they had against each other were. Questions about Trfel to rayn. On October 03 2015 11:04 The Shining wrote: Meh. I've just spent the last few hours at work dealing with a death threat from a drunk delivery guy and cops. I'm not really in the mood to be here right now but w.e. I'm done talking about cool. I'm almost as sure as I've ever been on anything that he'll flip scum and the whole "you're a liar" "no, you're a liar" between him and rayn has gotten really old really fast. Scum or not, he's right in that we should really stop focusing on him. RSo, do you remember how you caught scum Trfel d1 in Student V? Question about Trfel to rsoultin. On October 03 2015 11:21 The Shining wrote: I thought it was him snap voting geript at the start of the game for some bull about a self imposed 10 post limit per phase before weirdly backing off of it. The reason I'm asking is because although he claims it was a joke, he did go out of his way to put it into the voting thread and was looking for reactions. He's your top suspicion right now so I'm wondering if you see any similarities between that game and this one. Finally explaining why he is suspecting him. On October 03 2015 11:43 The Shining wrote: OK thank you. I was just revisiting that because I said I'd filter him a while ago and I'm finally getting around to it. That second post is a pretty interesting point but I'm not sure it makes him scum if he's the dolt you say he is lol. But the alternating between jokes and srs reads is shifty, I agree, although Rels also called him out for that and he addressed it here so I don't want to look too much into that. He also has posts where he talks himself in and out of points that he'd scum you for but then calls you scum after. There's also a lot of moments where he blatantly admits he wasn't reading the thread. I'm not sure if I think scumTrfel would put these things into the thread to be picked at if he was scum, unless he's just yoloing this game and trying new things. Then dropping it I think ? The last sentence indicated he now believes Trfel is town ? It is super unclear. 4. A few excuses to him not playing the game (even if the cops' situation is probably true =X): + Show Spoiler + On September 30 2015 07:25 The Shining wrote: Hi guys. I'm here, kinda. I have a ridiculous amount to catch up on so I prob won't be actively posting for a few hrs. I was at my college admissions office basically all day and I rarely get online Monday/Tuesday, anyway, so I apologize for not being around. On October 01 2015 04:12 The Shining wrote: Mobile posting. Just got to work and it's a fucking shitfest. Our computer system and Internet is down so I've got a little under 3 hrs before eod to manually log in a bunch of packages on an ipad and catch up on this game on my phone, because no tablet wifi. I will be here but in limited quantities. I'm not happy =/ On October 03 2015 11:04 The Shining wrote: Meh. I've just spent the last few hours at work dealing with a death threat from a drunk delivery guy and cops. I'm not really in the mood to be here right now but w.e. I'm done talking about cool. I'm almost as sure as I've ever been on anything that he'll flip scum and the whole "you're a liar" "no, you're a liar" between him and rayn has gotten really old really fast. Scum or not, he's right in that we should really stop focusing on him. RSo, do you remember how you caught scum Trfel d1 in Student V? So maybe Shining is scum. But that would mean he bused coolTLname D1, which is weird. On October 04 2015 04:04 Trfel wrote: The Shining Please note:
The Shining only used filter diving analysis twice in the game (early Day 1 on MoosyDoosy, and mid Day 2 on Trfel). Along with his read progression, he seems to be playing more to get townread instead of to find mafia. He also shows that his mindset is not a town mindset on several occasions. Moosy is probably mafia. The points that makes him mafia are in spoiler. + Show Spoiler + 1. After D2 started, Moosy accused GB of being mafia with a nonsense argument + Show Spoiler + On October 01 2015 23:41 MoosyDoosy wrote: I want to lynch GlowingBear after coolTLname. The reaction to Damdred’s CC should be to vote scott as everyone else did which makes GB’s continuous pushes against coolTLname really strange. Then there’s the interesting fact that coolTL made that really weird post about GlowingBear busing which he tried to rectify to “accusing”. I might be drawing too many conclusions, but it’s a solid bet GB is busing coolTLname and vice versa. This is reaching to call GB scum. There is NO way GB as mafia fights for coolTLname's lynch, when people are willing to switch to a blue. A mafia would just shut up and let the switch happen. 2. I call Moosy scummy for reasons X and Y. Moosy also thinks I called him scummy for reason Z. Moosy scumread me partly for that. + Show Spoiler + Moosy once again is reaching for a reason to call someone scum, this time me; It is nonsense to someone based on the fact you think he is scumreading you for a reason; when that person never said you were scummy for that, and actually said multiple times this particular reason didn't matter! This sentence got very long; see the resume oin the title of the pont. Moosy admitting he still scumread me for that: On October 04 2015 03:16 MoosyDoosy wrote: Yes. There is no way you can expect me to know you are town reading me when you are screaming about my behavior like you caught something. 3. Moosy insisted we lynch coolTLname whatever his alignement D2. + Show Spoiler + Moosy clearly wanted to lynch coolTLname. He repeated to have two possible lineups of mafias; and said he would lynch coolTLname since he was either a liability or town. This is a scummy way of thinking, since lynching coolTLname is exactly what mafia wanted. If he had a doubt about coolTLname being only a bad town, he should have pushed for other lynches; but didn't. On October 04 2015 03:04 MoosyDoosy wrote: Caught up. I still stand by coolTL. He is either a liability for town or Mafia. After his flip is when I pursue one of my two line-ups. On October 04 2015 04:46 MoosyDoosy wrote: No, I actually think there's rather a chance coolTL is town. I thought he had TMI on you early, and it still is really fucking weird he defended you that hard, but this might just be a case of too bad to be Mafia. Literally the way he can try to seem as townie as possible is to just not post anything as everything is just a flip flop and contradiction. He also repeated multiple times he would push me if coolTLname flipped town; it could indicate a mafia preparing his next mislynch. 4. Moosy said he was the first to vote and push coolTLname; trying to get the credit at the time of being the first. + Show Spoiler + Everything explained there: On October 02 2015 05:01 Rels wrote: That is just false. *I* was the first to push for coolTLname's lynch. *I* was the first to vote for him. Then GB voted him a few hours later: Then YOU voted for him a few hours later: So this sentence is bullshit: "GB, whether you realize it or not, I was the first man to vote for coolTL and push for his lynch alongside The Shining." 5. Moosy associated heavily with Shining about this coolTLname's push. He said EOD2 he would read his filter. And now he says he has no idea about his alignment. + Show Spoiler + This is not scum indicative per se; but if Shining is mafia, this read progression indicates a possible partner; townreading him and associating with him when Shining was universally townread, doubting him when he was put under suspicions; but not reading his filter since and not having a read on Shining's alignement. On October 01 2015 21:35 MoosyDoosy wrote: I mean, there was absolutely no intention to lynch him. Shining and I apparently came to the same conclusion at the same time though. We literally posted that coolTLname had TMI at the same time. Shining posted his thoughts 1 second before I voted for coolTL. Before that it was all about scott/rsoul. On October 02 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote: GB, whether you realize it or not, I was the first man to vote for coolTL and push for his lynch alongside The Shining. Second of all, I already said that we were lynching coolTL when I came back after EoD. Literally in the post you said was "dumb" I also said the order of lynch was coolTL/GB/Rels/LS. Are you sure you're reading..? On October 04 2015 06:12 MoosyDoosy wrote: ok wat let me read Shining's filter On October 05 2015 04:30 MoosyDoosy wrote: rsoultin - town Moosy - blue Trfel - town GlowingBear - idk rayn - town LightningStrike - Mafia Rels - Mafia sicklucker - town Shining - idk Then who ? I think Trfel, rayn and GB are town. I'll read their filters all the same tomorrow though, but right now by poe we have: rsoultin: nitpicking over a things that doesn't make me scum. Looking for scum explanation for everything I do. Townread shining, sheeping damdred s read when damdred is dead and we don't know if he would have re evaluated. Didnt have definite scumreads until middle of D1, when she scumread Marv and I; she rescinded these reads when she got pushed, and didn't acquire new reads until D2. Since then, have not re evaluated. LS: didnt do anything that I remember. Lots of excuses and comments that doesn't add anything. Sheeped apathetically coolTLname s lynch yesterday, while calling it weird. sicklucker: lots of comment on a lot of subjects. Seems to be lacking a direction. Maybe lied about him and rayn being the first to push coolTLname. Had no real opinion of the Marv push on rsoultin. | ||
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KelsierSC
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Day 3 October 4th, Yorkshire The log fire cast the smoking room in a faint red hue, dimly illuminating the outline of a bottle perched on a wooden stool. Either side of the stool were two elegant, cushioned chairs. There was a sound of stirring and from the shadows of the seat emerged a luxurious grey beard, shortly followed by its owner. He picked up the bottle in both hands and , shaking slightly, poured a generous measure into two small glasses. "I got this whiskey when my fourth grandchild was born you know, a celebration of sorts." He had a snooty sort of voice, well tuned to the purpose of talking down to others. "Of course if I knew what the child was to become then I wouldn't have bothered" "I doubt you have ever refused the opportunity to purchase whiskey Magnus" came a rougher voice from the chair to the right. A large, liver spotted hand reached out and picked up the tumbler. "A fair point, well made Hugo...but that is because, unlike children, whiskey gets better as it gets older" Hugo chuckled appreciatively "My good man, what does the child do exactly to displease you so much ?" "Oh he just sits in his room like a filthy layabout. Playing a bunch of nonsense called legends of the league or some rot" "How Dreadful" agreed Hugo. The elders lapsed into silence , only broken by the noise of sipping and the occasional clink of glass on wood. A timid cough came from the grand oak door. "Ahh young Trefl, what brings you to our humble court on such a cold evening" said Magnus, a welcoming smile on his old face. The boy named Trefl stepped forward, his incredibly handsome features were marked with a nervous terror. "I w-wish to present you with a g-gift my Lord" He stammered "A GIFT! Well my dear Hugo we are in luck" he peered down his long nose at the boy "very well my boy...what do you have?" From behind his well muscled back, Trefl pulled out a glass bottle and placed it next to the other. It looked brand new and a lot less dustier than its counterpart. "It's Talisker Storm my lord" a note of pride in his voice "ten years old in fact" There was a long pause,the boys nervous breathing filled the void. "Take care of this Hugo" whispered Magnus in a distinctly cool manner. "Boy, your Great-Grandfather has no wish for gifts" Sneered Hugo "Not unless they are twice as old as you are. Now get out and take this pisswater with you" He motioned to the gleaming present. Trefl snatched the bottle and ran from the room , tears streaming down his face. "You see Hugo my old chap, whiskey over children any day" Magnus said smugly as he refilled the glasses. "I'll drink to that." Trefl, the Talisker Storm (Town Vanilla), has vanished! Day 3 has begun. The voting thread is here. Day 3 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). At that time, the player with the most votes gets lynched. | ||
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On October 05 2015 07:02 rsoultin wrote: hi rels ^^ <3 hi rsoul good night | ||
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On October 05 2015 07:04 GlowingBear wrote: Listen, rsoultin: I am not Mafia. I have no scum motivation behind my actions. You can call me bad and even say I was lying (although I wasn't), but you won't be able to reason what's the Mafia motivation to do anything I've done in this game mhm...if you're town, lynch rels with me ^^ | ||
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