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On October 03 2015 18:37 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 18:28 Rels wrote:On October 03 2015 18:24 Trfel wrote:
Rels, I'm sorry, I honestly have no clue. I don't think it's good to go through all of MoosyDoosy's filter and try to piece together what he was trying to say, that should be his job. Plus if he is mafia and this would catch him, you might find a more reasonable explanation than what he actually did. Why don't we just wait for him to explain what he was saying when he gets back?
As for if it's mafia indicative, I don't feel like he would reach for a scumread when there's no incentive for doing so and it can be clearly shown that he's wrong. Though honestly I had some trouble following your post, I've been reading this game very quickly and not to the level of detail that I would have hoped for. I'll check it again when I finish with this The Shining thing, I'm pretty excited about that honestly. No the biggest scum indicator is that I did wait for him to answer. That's two times he is in the thread, I ask him to precise, and he doesn't do it. I'm sorry, it's 5:30 AM and MoosyDoosy's arrogance makes it very hard for me to read him  He's just always so freaking confident beyond logic, and I try to be as realistic as I can, the clash is quite hard for me... My first thought is that his arrogance could lead him to just ignore you, especially if he was scumreading you at the time which I believe he was? I'll try to take another look at it tomorrow, especially if you remind me, but I might not even have time to finish looking at The Shining
He's not ignoring me since the last time that he was in the thread, he answered a post of mine.
On October 03 2015 03:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 03:19 Rels wrote:
Vote recap with colored flip
Day 1
scott31337 (7): Damdred, marvellosity, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, rsoultin, marvellosity, Rels, The Shining, sicklucker
coolTLname (4): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy, scott31337, TheShining, LightningStrike, marvellosity
rsoultin (1): Trfel, raynpelikoneet, Rels,
GlowingBear (1): Damdred, coolTLname, rsoultin
Trfel (0): GlowingBear, Rels, LightningStrike, sicklucker
raynpelikoneet (0): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy, marvellosity
LightningStrike (0): raynpelikoneet, scott31337
So. There is Moosy's theory that mafia would let scott be lynched. And there is sicklucker's theory that mafia would jump on scott to kill a blue.
I think there is no way to know right now because:
- sicklucker is right; mafia would like scott, that they are pretty sure are blue, to be lynched
- but Moosy is also right; once scott is the lynch, there is no need to switch to him anymore. Better shut up, stay on another person, and don't be on the blue train
So this vote recap is pretty useless right now; however it will be a great help later in the game, with one or two mafias flips. No, we are both right. There is one Mafia probably on coolTL and the other on scott.
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On October 03 2015 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin get another "glowingber point" for her Rels read.
=D
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glowingbear point = "i wasn't interested in that when it happened but now, 2 days later, i suddenly am"
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On October 03 2015 18:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
glowingbear point = "i wasn't interested in that when it happened but now, 2 days later, i suddenly am"
Oh
I thought that referred to the Trfel saying Shining comparing your read of GB and LS
This is way less funny sorry
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Hm, I'm actually worried that I'm not coherent enough to put together a case right now... I'm not sure that I'm thinking straight.
Someone else look through it. A few specific things that I noticed in the first two pages of The Shining's filter:
His townread of GlowingBear (second post of game) doesn't match the explanation (explanation is all the reasons why GlowingBear is suspicious, nothing at all why he is towny)
Some flaws in his scumread of MoosyDoosy (specifically picking on MoosyDoosy's post to GlowingBear, there's a lot of time in between the post where MoosyDoosy explained reads and the unexplained reads post, also note that the same people aren't mentioned in both posts, and MoosyDoosy says that the post with the unexplained reads are the only ones he's sure about, thus they are the important ones)
The LightningStrike thing as described above, but I'm not sure if this is important at all or not because I'm too sleepy to know if I'm making sense
When raynpelikoneet votes for LightningStrike, The Shining seems surprised, despite seemingly being suspicious of LightningStrike all game long
Completely drops his scumread of MoosyDoosy when he returns, which is strange because of the case he made
Seems to be reaching for reasons to scumread coolTLname, doesn't seem to join the wagon naturally
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What I found scummy is there:
On October 03 2015 17:37 Rels wrote:OK Shining's filter at first glance seems OK. But: 1. he is focusing a lot of his posts on coolTLname, who is arleady voted by most of the town. 2. his recent townread on Moosy is weird: + Show Spoiler +On September 30 2015 09:57 The Shining wrote:
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Idk what to think about SL either but I do know as games go on, it becomes blatantly obvious whether he is scum or not. Moosy and Trfel are question marks for me that I won't give a read on until I'm done filter diving them. Starting with this post, Shinig started filter diving and questioning Moosy about stuff. His read on Moosy became more and more on the scum side, culminating in these posts EON1 / start of D2: On October 02 2015 06:18 The Shining wrote:I believe in cool. I need to revisit the RSo cases but your last summary post of her actions are starting to make me wonder, if its all true. This wouldn't be the first time I hard towned scum RSo =/ but her play that game was different. LS is questionable/bad town at best, scum at worst but I still live in a world where both him and cool can't be scum. =/ LS sheeped onto cool and idk if he's confident enough as scum to bus D1. And yeah Moosy is/should be on that list, too, if LS or cool were to flip town. On October 02 2015 08:26 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 08:20 The Shining wrote:On October 02 2015 08:17 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 08:13 The Shining wrote:On October 02 2015 07:11 The Shining wrote:On October 02 2015 06:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 06:37 The Shining wrote:On October 02 2015 05:46 The Shining wrote:On October 02 2015 05:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 02 2015 05:29 The Shining wrote:
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Hrm this is true. And although I started being suspicious of cool pretty early over the Marv non-read, I was actually the last to vote him. I wasn't even really pushing cool, I was still questioning him before I caught his chainsaw RSo defense. Sigh I guess I'll respond to this too. It doesn't make a difference. Rels and GB's votes didn't do much to start the wagon . It was only after you and me voted for coolTL that the wagon actually started. On October 01 2015 06:00 KelsierSC wrote:Day 1 Recall List rsoultin (2): Trfel, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, , Rels, scott31337, GlowingBear (2): Damdred, coolTLname Trfel (2): GlowingBear, Rels, LightningStrike, sicklucker coolTLname (5): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy, scott31337, TheShining raynpelikoneet (0): coolTLname, MoosyDoosymarvellosity (0): Damdred, scott31337 (1): marvellosity, raynpelikoneet, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, sickluckerNot listing (1): rsoultin, Tonight, I will be banning coolTLname permanently for providing us with atrocious whiskey.
Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
The spirits recall list is here.
Only votes on this list will be counted.
Please mind the deadline as failure to vote will result in a modkill. But I was the last vote on that train...you were 3rd...neither of us started that train...why are you lying/misrepresenting? Moosy pls Okay so I made a mistake to not see people were voting for coolTL other than me. I was just super excited that we both drew the exact same conclusion at the exact same time which is why I gave us all the credit. Either way, the coolTL wagon only became a real thing when we voted for coolTL and said he had TMI to make scott move over and make even rayn unvote to have doubts. Yeaaaaa...I kind of thought the same but with the sequence of events and the other votes on cool, it felt like a pocket attempt while subscribing to my train of thought. Here's why: On October 01 2015 05:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:
##unvote
##vote coolTLname
This is scum with TMI about rsoul. This post came 2 minutes after this post of mine: On October 01 2015 05:37 The Shining wrote:On October 01 2015 05:16 rsoultin wrote:On October 01 2015 05:12 The Shining wrote:On October 01 2015 05:06 coolTLname wrote:On October 01 2015 05:03 The Shining wrote:
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If I'm understanding this right, marv is pushing your townread super hard for lynch. How is his alignment not relevant?
Why would you say you're going to do something and then not do it? And then do the same thing with rso past games instead? I don't understand this how is saying he is mafia or town going to change his vote? i have better things to do such as defend rsoultin directly or accuse the glowing bear/ rayn and possibly sicklucker one of whom have 3 votes on. Well you indirectly said depending on his past games he could be scum. Then you stopped caring about it. That's a lack of scumhunting to me, when you have a suspicion or pinion on someone and do absolutely nothing about it but instead start defending a townread. Looks like you're more concerned with pocketing rso than you are in finding scum.Let me check yur filter becuz i would like to know why you're voting GB. Or you could save me the trouble and tell me. this went through my mind but where i get hung up on it really is what good does it do him if either of us are lynched? pocketing me means nothing if i'm not here and obviously it means nothing if he's lynched. i guess he could just not have meant it when he said to lynch him instead of me but...blah >< i still think this isn't gb's town game all this is going on and he's lurking around telling truffle here's a kit kat I just dont get why hes chainsaw defending you. If i am to believe he is newb town, i dont see how he could be this sure of a townread. Like i made the mistake as a newb of letting HtS filter size alone fool me in my first game here but even then i wasnt chainsaw defending ANY of my TRs. It looks really weird. And the saying hed look into marv later when it was HIS idea in the first place is rubbing me the wrong way. Dont get me wrong, you were and still are in my town pile but for different reasons, not just filter length. I remember in the scum game i lost to you and your bro, i forget the game, you were way less standoffish and adamant about your trains of thought. You were more aloof and carefree that game, with a bit of trouble finding scumreads and latching onto easy mislynches. Marv is not an easy lynch, mislynch or not, so i dont think scumRso does that here. Just enough time to read this post and make your short post after my prompting because I was already on the track to thinking cool had TMI. That was also your first post in 2 hours but you don't mention anything else and just latch onto the coolTLname TMI case. ... ...? because I was busy and literally thought of coolTLname, logged in, voted him, thought of reasoning, quoted it onto rayn's post then left Wait so you voted him to get on the wagon and THEN thought of reasoning for it? What?? This response to a pocketing accusation is soooo bad. You tried to buddy me twice saying we got the train on cool going then when I ask about it being a pocket, you slip and admit you voted without reasoning. Am I wrong here? Cuz if not I wanna lynch Moosy, this is bad. But then he threw all this progression away just there: On October 03 2015 04:40 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 11:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
did anyone notice he literally revokes everything he said and did in that post of his... Actually yeah wow this. Bah Moosy can be town, there's no way we keep having mind melds like this. And he didn't scumread him anymore in the rest of his posts. 3. his push is Trfel is very non commital, and we don't really know what his final read is: + Show Spoiler +On October 03 2015 05:05 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 14:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Trfel which one of us do you believe is right? Did Trfel ever answer this? All I saw was him saying he thought cool was town and that their talk was getting nowhere. After saying he'd lynch cool because even if he's town because he's not helpful to town. That's a weird progression and considering I think rayn is town and cool is scum, it seems pretty weird to not take a side here or even analyze what the arguments they had against each other were. Questions about Trfel to rayn. On October 03 2015 11:04 The Shining wrote:
Meh. I've just spent the last few hours at work dealing with a death threat from a drunk delivery guy and cops. I'm not really in the mood to be here right now but w.e.
I'm done talking about cool. I'm almost as sure as I've ever been on anything that he'll flip scum and the whole "you're a liar" "no, you're a liar" between him and rayn has gotten really old really fast. Scum or not, he's right in that we should really stop focusing on him.
RSo, do you remember how you caught scum Trfel d1 in Student V? Question about Trfel to rsoultin. On October 03 2015 11:21 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 11:15 rsoultin wrote:On October 03 2015 11:04 The Shining wrote:
Meh. I've just spent the last few hours at work dealing with a death threat from a drunk delivery guy and cops. I'm not really in the mood to be here right now but w.e.
I'm done talking about cool. I'm almost as sure as I've ever been on anything that he'll flip scum and the whole "you're a liar" "no, you're a liar" between him and rayn has gotten really old really fast. Scum or not, he's right in that we should really stop focusing on him.
RSo, do you remember how you caught scum Trfel d1 in Student V? yeah, his push on ls was horrid and wasn't something he'd ever say as town, essentially I thought it was him snap voting geript at the start of the game for some bull about a self imposed 10 post limit per phase before weirdly backing off of it. The reason I'm asking is because although he claims it was a joke, he did go out of his way to put it into the voting thread and was looking for reactions. He's your top suspicion right now so I'm wondering if you see any similarities between that game and this one. Finally explaining why he is suspecting him. On October 03 2015 11:43 The Shining wrote:OK thank you. I was just revisiting that because I said I'd filter him a while ago and I'm finally getting around to it. That second post is a pretty interesting point but I'm not sure it makes him scum if he's the dolt you say he is lol. But the alternating between jokes and srs reads is shifty, I agree, although Rels also called him out for that and he addressed it here so I don't want to look too much into that. Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 11:37 Trfel wrote:On September 29 2015 17:42 Rels wrote:On September 29 2015 07:28 Trfel wrote:On September 29 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
btw truffle nope ^^ i only skimmed it cause yawn lol you can keep your shitty vote Hm, I kind of actually think you are mafia now..... But I can't decide if I should push or wait..... @Trfel is this a serious post if it is I find super weird the fact that most posts before and after this one are funny posts OK after I finish catching up I'll do a Trfel's filter dive to check if my feeling is right. But I definitely have the feeling there is a contradiction in tone progression in Trfel's posts, something like funny => one serious => funny => one serious => funny If you think that me alternating between being serious or funny is a sign that I am mafia, then I have no more words for you. To be honest, depending on how that's applied, it's probably the easiest way to read me. Since apparently I wasn't clear: I started out by voting rsoultin as a joke. Then I started being a bit suspicious of rsoultin, but not enough that I wanted to actually push it (at least until I reread things). Before I was able to reread things, rsoultin made some posts that were contrary to the assumptions I had made for some of my suspicions of her, and then I realized a few flaws in my suspicions. So I wasn't very suspicious of her any more). Clear enough? He also has posts where he talks himself in and out of points that he'd scum you for but then calls you scum after. There's also a lot of moments where he blatantly admits he wasn't reading the thread. I'm not sure if I think scumTrfel would put these things into the thread to be picked at if he was scum, unless he's just yoloing this game and trying new things. Then dropping it I think ? The last sentence indicated he now believes Trfel is town ? It is super unclear. 4. A few excuses to him not playing the game (even if the cops' situation is probably true =X): + Show Spoiler +On September 30 2015 07:25 The Shining wrote:
Hi guys. I'm here, kinda. I have a ridiculous amount to catch up on so I prob won't be actively posting for a few hrs. I was at my college admissions office basically all day and I rarely get online Monday/Tuesday, anyway, so I apologize for not being around. On October 01 2015 04:12 The Shining wrote:
Mobile posting. Just got to work and it's a fucking shitfest. Our computer system and Internet is down so I've got a little under 3 hrs before eod to manually log in a bunch of packages on an ipad and catch up on this game on my phone, because no tablet wifi. I will be here but in limited quantities.
I'm not happy =/ On October 03 2015 11:04 The Shining wrote:
Meh. I've just spent the last few hours at work dealing with a death threat from a drunk delivery guy and cops. I'm not really in the mood to be here right now but w.e.
I'm done talking about cool. I'm almost as sure as I've ever been on anything that he'll flip scum and the whole "you're a liar" "no, you're a liar" between him and rayn has gotten really old really fast. Scum or not, he's right in that we should really stop focusing on him.
RSo, do you remember how you caught scum Trfel d1 in Student V? So maybe Shining is scum. But that would mean he bused coolTLname D1, which is weird.
The GB and LS things didn't mark me. I suppose you will fact check and make a proper case later ?
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Trfel who else do you think is mafia?
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On October 03 2015 18:47 Trfel wrote:
Seems to be reaching for reasons to scumread coolTLname, doesn't seem to join the wagon naturally
how is this scum indicative ?
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On October 03 2015 18:52 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 18:47 Trfel wrote:
Seems to be reaching for reasons to scumread coolTLname, doesn't seem to join the wagon naturally how is this scum indicative ?
If it is true ofc it is, regardless of coolTLname's affiliation.
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On October 03 2015 18:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2015 18:52 Rels wrote:On October 03 2015 18:47 Trfel wrote:
Seems to be reaching for reasons to scumread coolTLname, doesn't seem to join the wagon naturally how is this scum indicative ? If it is true ofc it is, regardless of coolTLname's affiliation.
I don't understand. How is looking for reasons instead of sheeping scum indicative ?
I suppose you mean forcefully looking for reasons
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On October 03 2015 18:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Trfel who else do you think is mafia? No clue.
@Rels, it's alignment indicative because if mafia wants to join a wagon and wants to look better, they'll make up their own reasons for joining it. Sometimes these reasons aren't so good.
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On October 01 2015 04:52 The Shining wrote:
I guess you're right but I'll still read when i can. I need to look at marvs and rayns filter for Rso becuz i had her as town originally. I appreciate the recap but idk what the actual case was so yeah.
tbh i super heavily dislike this post.
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Like there is a push on rsoultin from me/marv.
Shining says he's gonna take a stance on it -> never does anything about it.
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On October 03 2015 19:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like there is a push on rsoultin from me/marv.
Shining says he's gonna take a stance on it -> never does anything about it.
yeah almost nobody wanted to take a stance on that issue at the time marv made his case. This is good
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But if I check the silly meta point.....
Student Mafia V
On January 18 2015 09:49 The Shining wrote:
Fee Fi Fo Fum. Last night, I couldn't handle my rum. =/ Just gonna dive right into it because reading all of this at once has a bunch of thoughts screaming at me.
Geript - I'm right here and Post 3 needs to be another good one. I don't have much past experience to go on with Trfel openings, and even less with yours, but if more of your posts look like post 1 as opposed to 2, I could see you being Town. The first post was a lot of seemingly genuine analysis in the first post, with a bullet list of questions. However, if you're really sticking to 10 posts, I'm not sure I understand the reasoning in helping Town with your 2nd post. Even more of a waste of a post since half of it was wanting to double check a read on a modkilled player. Of course, you had no idea that would happen but I really wish there was more in that 2nd post. The 1st post did mention a possible association read? I think thats what its called. More thoughts to follow on that when I get to DP. Null leaning Town.
Damdred - Hey boo, sorry I'm late. FYI, I came into this game needing you to bleed town something unreal. You did way too good of a job in past games playing scum and misdirecting Town. That being said, it looks like your questioning is actually coming from a genuine place. I do want to point out that you've been straightforward with questioning a few people, from Cool to Tr. You're either really trying to figure out this game, or trying very hard to scattershot suspicion everywhere to seem contributive. The pressure on Trfel recently makes me think its the former. Slight Town lean.
LS - I lost track of how many times you used the words meta and meta reads in your filter. I understand there isn't much to go off of D1 but I at one point suspected you might not be able to scumread anyone else as scum yourself and decided to rely on someone slipping and doing something they did in a past game as scum so you can jump on that instead. The more I read through you, though, the more you convinced me you were scumhunting. Even though your posts can be a bit erratic and you sometimes backtrack on your own train of thoughts, you also did that in the last Newbie Mini as Town. You also seem pretty fearless in talking and responding to others, something scum would double and triple check before doing for fear of slipping. Slight Town.
RSo - Strong Town. I've played with her a bunch and her hitting the track running with questions and early pressure for Trfel's Geript vote fits perfectly with her Town meta. She very much so hit me the same way in Mini when I questioned if she was bluehunting. Also she is very transparent with her questions and suspicions and makes it clear she was questioning Trfels motives for the vote, not immediately scumming him. In my experience, Town is more careful about who to scumread and lynch in the fear of killing a blue.
JJB - That entrance is bad and you should feel bad. Lol jk but seriously, D1 lynch is most important in my opinion. You learn much more about who posted/voted during the day with a D1 lynch, as well as running a chance of an awesome D1 scum lynch. Otherwise, we have to hope for a Doc save, assuming we even have one, or we start D2 with minimal info and a NK that could be detrimental to Town winning. This brings me to my next point. Although at face value, the fact that you responded to why you thought the No lynch was a good idea seemed believable to me, it struck me as odd that you thought you didn't see a Cop/Doctor setup(setup A) and that sent you on a full Google search for Mafia strats and that's how you came up with the NL. Mate, couldn't you just check the OP and see at least one setup did in fact have a cop + doc? And in an open setup game, how sure can you be that any of the 3 setups is the one we're playing? The only way you'd know that is as scum. Was that a slip? The rest of your posts are responses and defenses to questions about your opening, and summaries. I could maybe be convinced to lynch but the fact that you are asking questions of Damdred as well as responding thinks you might deserve a Lil BoD for D1, at least. Suspicious, not really seeing Town, could lynch.
Trfel - On January 24 2015 10:10 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2015 03:00 LoneMeow wrote:On January 23 2015 20:40 The Shining wrote:
If you had to lynch someone that wasn't Breshke today, who would it be and why?
Damdred or you. I like geript a bit more town now, and I'm not quite ready to lynch DarthPunk yet despite getting more paranoid about him. Well, at least I got the who. Low hanging fruit in me, basically inactive town. ##Vote:LoneMeow I might be willing to pull off of you if you can explain what makes us more suspicious than anyone else but I've been weary of you for a while and your appearances now make it worse. Still feels like you are just looking for an easy place to drop your vote. You have no real case aside from Breshke once he scummed you(OMGUS?) and the 3 people you've scummed or been suspicious of are Bresh, Damdred, myself, all of whom have earlier posts directly questioning you and commenting on your filter. The inconsistencies pointed out in some of your posts seem hastily thrown together, not a genuine effort to look into anyone. Had planned on posting more including responding to Bresh asking me to explain my DP town read(which is weakest of the 3, hence why its bottom) but Friday nights at work are hectic, been working on this post on my tablet for about an hour. Going to look through DP's filter for the specific posts that made me lean town on him. But I'm here, should be in and out for the next 2-3 hours if anyone wants to bounce anything off of me. His first and last major reads posts of the game. There's plenty of other examples in between too. Note how he makes his cases like he's talking to the people he's writing about.
Generic Boring Mini Mafia
On May 19 2015 04:31 The Shining wrote:
Fck it, I'll just keep posting until I get where I'm going.
Stutters, why would you point out we've been in 3 recent games together, call me out saying I "should know" you don't D1 and that you're a bad policy lynch, and then turn around and do pretty much the same to me? If I "should know" you and your D1, you "should know" I open every game just talking shit and defensive to anyone who so breathes my way as town on D1. You should also know I don't play much on Mondays/Tuesdays, similar to your "I dont play weekends" excuse that you said I also "should know."
So why the hell do standards for me reading you apply due to past games but you don't apply to the same standards? Seems like a shit attempt at trying to scum me for things I've done in all of my town games, to varying degrees. Here's an instance of this happening from The Shining as town.On May 21 2015 04:47 The Shining wrote:I am here. Ish. Forced to go back to work but now I have tons of time for this game. Let me finish catching up and I'll finally be able to fully play. I'm quite behind so if there are cases you think should take priority for me to weigh in on, let me know. Initial thoughts: Stutters might be scum but I'm not sold on it just yet. I didn't like the case on me for obvious reasons but I suppose it can be expected from someone who doesn't do d1. He's also right that afaik his meta, he doesn't deliver on promises as both alignments. However, his D2 is a lot more telling. I'll revisit him closer to EoD. I'm weary of Damdred but a lot of it has to do with not wanting to be pocketed lol. The meta read on me is so accurate, it hurts The Vivax vote after townreading him is questionable but I also sheeped Palmars case. I could lean either way on him but he's townier side of null right now. I want to filterdive now that I have time at work but I think I could lynch Palmar. Maybe I just feel bad about sheeping his case into a mislynch but I need to see the timing of the case. Iirc, the wagons were Obi and Shockey beforehand, could've been saving one of them. Ok I'm doing too much thinking out loud. I'll be back after I look up some stuff. But as shown, it seems to be very infrequent.
Newbie Student Mafia VII
On April 12 2015 16:29 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2015 10:48 Stutters695 wrote:On April 11 2015 08:39 jarjarbinks wrote:
Hmm The flip flop begins lol
So I previously wasn't a huge fan of Stutters so far. I'm changing my mind.
Sure, Onegu voted Breshke before. There wasn't too much traction on him before that IMO. He made a case and it looked like he thought it was pretty good. It seems like he has been scumhunting around since then.
I expect him to show his "top four" and his reads besides Breshke. But he did just get in the game. I don't see him as lynchable right now at all. Was wondering how long it would take someone to notice that. Was really hoping it'd be a newbie to see their reaction, but can't win them all. Ace: obv policy lynch, nothing more. I'm less confident in seeing an increase in posting from him if we give him time, do he's my fall back if I can't get my main lynch going. Currently I still want Breshke's head. I'm not sure how to vocalize it exactly, but he just feels off. I still see plenty of scum mindset behind his actions and skimming his past 4 (2 scum, 2 town) games day 1 hasn't put me at ease. His play so far doesn't match either meta really. As town he has much more focus in his posts. He might change his mind, but if he saw something he didn't like (my post for example) he would challenge it until he's satisfied, not brush it off. There is also a distinct lack of interaction with the people he suspects. His scum meta does seem to withhold reads until later, but after dying n1 and n2, I can see why he would attempt to change that. He's currently who I want to lynch. The other two I'm really interested in are prpl and plot, but I haven't had the time to really get into them yet. Can you rephrase that question about interactions with Onegu? If you mean us playing together, we have, but nothing notable from memory. This post stands out to me regarding Stutters. From what I've read so far and the filters I've dove, I've got a few preliminary reads that I'd be more than willing to explain after this. The way he mentions Ace as a "fallback" lynch just doesn't feel right. It's more of a tone read and I'm aware Ace hadn't done much before being replaced but writing off a newbie because you don't feel he'll increase in posting on D1 doesn't feel right. And I have Breshke as a town lean so naturally, it raises questions that he'd want to lynch him. He also mentions being suspicious of plot(flipped VT) and prpl. So that's 2 town and a town lean he'd be willing to lynch, before ultimately(and effortlessly) sheeping onto plot over his poor EoD antics. I've yet to read prpl and there's a lot more than that for me to read as well, but I'll continue trying to catch up and answer as best I can. For example.
Got about halfway through, didn't notice a single instance of it.
Then of course his most recent town game, where I didn't notice it a single time.
On October 02 2015 05:00 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 11:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
ok first step is to lynch coolTLname 100% D2. There is zero reason for him to have refused to listen to everything that people were stating against rsoultin. The ease with which he pulls out reasons to townread her disturbs me as well. This is most likely a case of TMI where he knows the alignments so finds it easy to be certain on this read. Moosy falling farther down my list, tbh. So you agreed with me on my coolTL read which means you're aware of my reads but you didn't mention the fact that I have RSo as town. Technically I also refused to listen to the cases on her because I've played with her multiple times and I'm pretty sure she's town, even after everything. It reminds me of her back and forth with Geript in Student V and they were both town. Second time this game.On October 02 2015 11:51 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 11:41 rsoultin wrote:
if it's me you haven't really been hiding it so well, tbf -stretches-
i'm kind of disappointed that no one cares :/ though i guess it's not terribly important if this is an auto-lynch cool day Well that's what I don't get. Yes, he should've been lynched D1. Yes, I think he's scum. But the auto lynch attitude is going to lead us into complacency and I'm not okay with that. Especially when people are hiding reads. Cough cough. Show nested quote +On October 02 2015 11:46 coolTLname wrote:
so there was someone who said i was role hunting 101 with my Can medics heal themselves question do u guys remember who that was? look into him. I wasn't role hunting btw, i was actually trying to look like a medic , probably shouldn't have done that but o well. I swore it was the shining but i cant find it lol
and rayn and GB i have decent arguments in my filter on these two.
GL !
OK srsly please stop this. This is your 2nd give up post, and we still have 40+ hours left in this day phase. Instead of asking if anyone remembers who asked about you too hunting, why not use your time to find it yourself? How many times are you going to declare your innocence but then do jack shit about it? This reads like a scum post just trying to get people to waste time on shit we dont need to waste time on. And it wasn't me that said you were role hunting but thanks for trying to pin that on me. -1 And a third time.
I'm going to stop here for now. It's obviously not a 100% indicator, but as far as silly meta points go, it doesn't seem that bad.
I'll take a closer look at The Shining's filter (using the conventional method) tomorrow.
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The way he dismisses the cases on rsoultin is also yuck...
Technically I also refused to listen to the cases on her because I've played with her multiple times and I'm pretty sure she's town, even after everything. It reminds me of her back and forth with Geript in Student V and they were both town.
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going out now. I'll follow the thread by phone until deadline
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If anyone has a question for me, ask it now because I'll probably just skin the thread until deadlibe today. I may or may not get drunk and solve the game with alcohol
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On October 03 2015 19:16 GlowingBear wrote:
solve the game with alcohol
sounds like a plan!
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-yawns-
morning lol ><
@rayn...rels did this thing he did, where he talks about cool for half-decent reasons d1 but mostly focuses on truffle's reads, then kinda afks his vote on cool. and you're wrong that he and damdred have the same read. yes, some aspects are similar, but the gb comment in particular about reading the thread simply doesn't exist. additionally, of all the things to read cool scum for it's the most ridiculous?
i've got plenty of reasons to townread damdy independent of his "cool isn't new" assertion. it's not like i said damdy is town for pushing that and rels isn't
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