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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2015 21:25 GMT
#719
I mean, if his posting is going to devolve into "you guys are bad, I'm only playing here because of moosy", I'm never not going to lynch him

it's too hard to ignore

if he's town, his self-proclaimed skill of managing to work with other townies is just so laughably absent this game that I can't help but think he's so much worse than he's putting on that we're inevitably going to lynch him anyway
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2015 21:26 GMT
#723
On September 06 2015 06:25 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2015 05:43 n00bKing wrote:
On September 05 2015 11:21 GlowingBear wrote:
noob what do you think of moosy doosy?

Moosy appears to be Town so far. He's done one thing that I am not sure he would have found the nerve to do if he were Scum and knew that I am Town. I also think his suspicions of CopCake were well-founded (and this is even assuming that we disregard the "pocketing" attempt that Moosy flipped his lid about. I would disregard that incident, and I would be suspicious of CopCake anyway.)

Now this is a funny thing to say from a guy who thinks i am mafia for having meta-reads.

That wasn't a meta-read though, at least not in the sense that most people seem to use the term here. It was not based on any of his behavior from other games. And I most definitely have never said that I think you're Mafia, so stop trying to put words in my mouth.

"blah blah semantics, I never said that, I said THIS!"

post something MEANINGFUL

by your own standards of reading me, there is no defense I can make of you

try harder plx
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2015 21:31 GMT
#729
On September 06 2015 06:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
yamato/rayn/superbia, would you agree that n00bKing and CopCake cannot be Mafia together?

I generally detest associative reads, especially early.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2015 21:35 GMT
#734
On September 06 2015 06:33 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 06:09 Superbia wrote:
On September 06 2015 06:03 n00bKing wrote:
On September 06 2015 02:10 yamato77 wrote:
n00bKing wrote:
On THIS site, it seems like the games usually have a few dim bulbs. It's a lower level of play than I'm used to, and I'm still trying to make adjustments. This is an example of such an adjustment.

Fucking LOL

pot, kettle, black

Mmmm, NO. It was only my SECOND game here on this site, when I asked the other players if they knew of any good places to play Mafia-by-Forum. Because this ain't it. Players here don't care, players here don't try, and I don't think some of them would know how to try even if they wanted to. But I had said I would play in Moosy's 4th and final Newbie game, so here I am.

What's this about dude? What's your reason for saying this site is filled with bad mafia players (essentially)? Is it because you're being read mafia?

Not at all. I don't think the players who are mistakenly reading me as Mafia in this game are playing any worse than I've come to expect around here. I would have gladly made the above post before this game started. Like it says, it only took until my 2nd game here to realize that the players here are on a lower level than I'm used to, and that they don't really seem to care about ever getting better, either. In the games I play, players hold things over each other's heads from games that happened YEARS ago. Bragging rights are real, and you don't want to be the one who gets embarrassed, because you won't be allowed to forget about it. Here, people don't even care whether they win or lose (or whether they even finish the fucking game, or just up and stop playing), much less about their reputation.

Your reputation is fast becoming one of a whiny little bitch who is mad he's going to get lynched
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2015 21:35 GMT
#735
On September 06 2015 06:34 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 06:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm fairly confident in my n00bKing read that he's town. I don't think CopCake and n00bKing are Mafia together.

If n00bKing is lynched D1 and he flips town, then I want you all to consider CopCake as a serious candidate for a D2 lynch.

If n00bKing is lynched D1 and he flips Mafia, then I will drop all grounds that CopCake could be Mafia.

On D2 I will provide my case on CopCake to show that she is Mafia.

But I am fairly certain in my reads on these two people.


I kind of hate this.

I also do fwiw

seems like he's got a little TMI on noobking for me
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2015 21:38 GMT
#739
On September 06 2015 05:57 n00bKing wrote:
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On September 06 2015 01:56 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also thoughts on Alakaslam x GlowingBear? idk why but I feel that both come out looking more town from that interaction.

GlowingBear has come out looking Town from virtually every interaction. So if Scott is Town, then he's just about as wrong as he could possibly be, as I like most of what GlowingBear has had to say in the game.

Seeing as you don't have a townread of scott, and that it appears to be because he doesn't like GB's posting while you do, what GB posts do you happen to agree with?

I don't agree with much of what GB has posted.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2015 21:39 GMT
#742
On September 06 2015 06:38 n00bKing wrote:
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On September 06 2015 06:16 CopCake wrote:
moose, noobking, glowing bear, fidel are the ones to watch out.

The replacement too.

Yeah, could not really disagree more. Moosy and GlowingBear are probably the two players I have the most reason to townread at this point.

Those are 2 players I do not find to be the most likely town whatsoever.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2015 21:40 GMT
#744
On September 06 2015 06:39 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 06:18 yamato77 wrote:
On September 06 2015 05:55 n00bKing wrote:
On September 06 2015 01:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
n00bKing. For one moment, say that you believe that rayn is town. Who would you look at next if that was the case?

I would have a difficult time crafting a defense for any of: CopCake, boxerfred, Hydra/Mage. I'm still waiting to see a post from yamato that looks useful, but I can keep waiting, unless that's a notorious lurker or something.

lol

you're getting lynched today

how do you feel?

I very seriously doubt I am getting lynched today. Never once in my entire Mafia career have I been the Day 1 lynch.

Ever.

Well then perhaps instead of making generalized statements with no context, you ought to provide evidence for your reads, because I do not follow many of them.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2015 21:42 GMT
#746
On September 06 2015 06:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 06:35 yamato77 wrote:
On September 06 2015 06:34 Superbia wrote:
On September 06 2015 06:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm fairly confident in my n00bKing read that he's town. I don't think CopCake and n00bKing are Mafia together.

If n00bKing is lynched D1 and he flips town, then I want you all to consider CopCake as a serious candidate for a D2 lynch.

If n00bKing is lynched D1 and he flips Mafia, then I will drop all grounds that CopCake could be Mafia.

On D2 I will provide my case on CopCake to show that she is Mafia.

But I am fairly certain in my reads on these two people.


I kind of hate this.

I also do fwiw

seems like he's got a little TMI on noobking for me

I am fairly sure n00bKing's town. When he was Mafia, he was stirring up all sorts of chaos during the game without giving any definitive reads. Here, he's still willing to participate and he gave reads on several people. His tone is all business unlike his Mafia game.

Granted he is overreacting that TL Mafia sucks and that his ego was hurt, but those are all actually n00bKing town tells as well.

Even if he's town, it doesn't mean copcake is more likely mafia whatsoever
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 05 2015 21:50 GMT
#757
On September 06 2015 06:48 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 06:41 CopCake wrote:
On September 06 2015 03:59 scott31337 wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/493411-newbie-student-mafia-xiv-firefly?user=n00bKing http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/493411-newbie-student-mafia-xiv-firefly?user=CoughingHydra
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/493411-newbie-student-mafia-xiv-firefly?user=CopCake
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/493411-newbie-student-mafia-xiv-firefly?user=GlowingBear
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/493411-newbie-student-mafia-xiv-firefly?user=boxerfred

I want GB or n00bking lynches though.


To answer noobking

this kind of posts are effort.

So? The game requires more effort from Scum than it does from Town. Anyone who doesn't work harder in their Scum games than they do in their Town games is doing their scummates a disservice.

Are you going to answer any of my read-relevant questions or just post more of these kinds of posts?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2015 17:41 GMT
#932
I don't really like Scott or copcake lynches from what I've read.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2015 18:19 GMT
#942
I'm still reading, but my impressions are thus:

I'm sorely tempted to lynch n00bKing regardless of what I find, but my better judgement says that he's probably town with a massive stick up his ass. FWIW I think his reads are all wrong but I think he's also bad enough to believe them, SO.

I am still quite suspicious of Moosy and therefor I think the CopCake lynch is horrid. The wagon is n00b, mooosy, and the replacement. All-Stars.

GB is fine afking with a vote on a wagon by himself. He is mafia.

I want to lynch GB
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2015 18:24 GMT
#943
On BF: I've seen him play low-activity catch-up mode as town before and I don't hate the things he's posting. Not the best lynch by any means.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2015 18:27 GMT
#944
On September 06 2015 08:01 Fidei86 wrote:
Hey guys. Sorry I haven't been around today - I was really drunk yesterday evening when the game started, and I've spent most of today out and about with friends. Honestly, I was pretty bummed from how Personality Mafia ended, so I needed a bit of a break. But I'm back now. I've read the thread and I have some thoughts, but honestly I probably need to go back to the filters first before solid reads.

In terms of my experience, I have played a fair bit of voice mafia with rayn, but I don't think we've ever been in a forum game together. I've played with scott before, but he AFKd through most of our most recent game. I was town with GB back in Himalayas, but he was killed before I really started contributing in a meaningful way. I was town with Moosy and n00b in newbie mafia XII, although that game ended kinda abruptly (and all of us were basically confirmed town d1). The rest of the players I wouldn't say I know much about. I like to get this sort of thing out at the start as it will hopefully give you more of a sense of where my reads come from.

I'm going to read back over some filters, and give some thoughts. My initial read through made me most sceptical of Moosy and n00b, especially as their play seemed very different to last time I played with them.

One thing I do want to say now is that this is supposed to be a Newbie Game, and you guys have managed to fill 40 pages in a day and a bit. This is just a quick plea to make sure you think before you post - active town is great, but over-active town means that people can just sort of hide in the noise.

This post makes me want to puke.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2015 18:32 GMT
#946
On September 06 2015 09:03 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 05:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 06 2015 05:07 Superbia wrote:
moosy/noobking/copcake/others. Can you guys make some sort of list post on where you stand? Like on everyone. Specifically I would also like people to give an opinion on the whole noobking/rayn conundrum. What do you think of their alignment?

-.- i detailed a post where i lumped people into categories but here you go:

town: raynpelikoneet, yamato77

town lean: Superbia, Alakaslam

null: Breshke, boxerfred, GlowingBear, scott31337, Fidei86

people to look into: nocturnemage/coughinghydra, copcake

???: n00bKing

Okay, so this post. WTF.

I started off by running through all the reads one by one, but the thing that really sticks out here is that MD's previous five pages of filter are basically just a defence of n00b. MD goes as far as to say that he has the best read on n00b of everyone in the game, and that he is basically SURE that this is n00b's town meta. But now that there's a wagon picking up on n00b, he's trying to walk that back? Huh? MD you really need to explain this read for me, because at the moment it really stinks.

I agree with this point.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2015 18:35 GMT
#947
On September 07 2015 02:55 Fidei86 wrote:
Guys is GlowingBear usually this disinterested as town? I've been town with him once, and he was literally in the middle of every single shit-fight there was. This time, he doesn't really seem to care. It's weird.

This is a good post, mainly because you're breaking from over-analyzing BF's small filter

Fidei is probably town, given his general coherence, level of focus, level of effort, and overall sense of absolute mistrust of even me, rofl.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2015 18:43 GMT
#949
I absolutely feel that we should be lynching GB today, and we don't have much time to do it.

IF ANYONE has objections, please raise them.

I've read noob's post on the matter and choose to disagree with it in its entirety.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2015 18:49 GMT
#951
On September 07 2015 03:46 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2015 03:24 yamato77 wrote:
On BF: I've seen him play low-activity catch-up mode as town before and I don't hate the things he's posting. Not the best lynch by any means.

That's true, see Gaiden where I was policy lynched due to RL issues and had low activity. Same here. I'm fine with a n00bking lynch, not with a cake lynch. I don't like fideis efforts and townread rayn. So much for me as of now.

##vote n00bKing

I wish you'd read the part where I said I didn't want to lynch noobking anymore.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2015 19:00 GMT
#956
On September 07 2015 03:55 GlowingBear wrote:
I really think noobking shouldn't be the lynch today. Vote scott.

I really think you should be the lynch today. Vote yourself.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2015 19:08 GMT
#962
On September 07 2015 04:00 GlowingBear wrote:
If people are going against lurkers, than we should lynch the scummiest, and not someone who is most likely a question mark. Scott fits the scummy lurker cartegory

No he doesn't
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