On July 29 2015 12:55 Snickers wrote:
GLOW BEAR IS MAFA
gb is mafia because he hard defended firm tofu day one and did not push scott. if you asked gb he would say snickers is a fucking dumbass and he pushed scott but lets look at the details.
gb comes with an interesting time with his kelsier push. it could be seen as a time to start a kelsier wagon in order to protect firm tofu. but thats not too scummy.
as the day goes on gb votes fly everywhere from keslier to firm tofu to scott. he also talks about wanting to lynch clarity.
at the end of the day here are the final votes
before the final votes gb claims he pushed scott hard but in reality he defended firm tofu. Why?
because this is a list of the people he asked to not vote firm tofu and to go to scott.
Rayn, Palmar, kelsier
he also told rayn to vote clairty earlier and he told palmar to vote kelsier earlier. all over the place with who to lynch but not who to not lynch.
ALSO MORE IMPORTANTLY
he never asks me, clarity or rsoultin to switch are votes to scott. Why wouldnt he if he wanted scott to be lynched?
gb also claims kelsier can not be scum because firm tofu pushed him. but firmtofu also pushed scott.
i think this was a way to not seem like for it to be scummy to ask kelsier to switch to scott. cause why ask scum read from day one (who you posted a huge post on) to go to scott.
GLOW BEAR IS MAFA
gb is mafia because he hard defended firm tofu day one and did not push scott. if you asked gb he would say snickers is a fucking dumbass and he pushed scott but lets look at the details.
gb comes with an interesting time with his kelsier push. it could be seen as a time to start a kelsier wagon in order to protect firm tofu. but thats not too scummy.
as the day goes on gb votes fly everywhere from keslier to firm tofu to scott. he also talks about wanting to lynch clarity.
at the end of the day here are the final votes
On July 27 2015 07:05 Half the Sky wrote:
Night 1
(edited for vote tracker)
FirmTofu (6): raynpelikoneet, Onegu, KelsierSC,rsoultin, ObiWanShinobi, scott31337, GlowingBear, Palmar
scott31337 (4): boxerfred, Hopeless1der,FirmTofu, GlowingBear, FirmTofu
clarity_nl (1):rsoultin, Palmar, rsoultin, Snickers
Hopeless1der (1):raynpelikoneet, Clarity_nl, scott31337
boxerfred (1):Snickers, Snickers
KelsierSC (0):Snickers, GlowingBear, FirmTofu
raynpelikoneet (0):Palmar
rsoultin (0):Onegu, Snickers
palmar (0):FirmTofu
As the wind blows, FirmTofu is staring death in the face.
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Night 1
(edited for vote tracker)
Final Day 1 Vote Count
FirmTofu (6): raynpelikoneet, Onegu, KelsierSC,
scott31337 (4): boxerfred, Hopeless1der,
clarity_nl (1):
Hopeless1der (1):
boxerfred (1):
KelsierSC (0):
raynpelikoneet (0):
rsoultin (0):
palmar (0):
As the wind blows, FirmTofu is staring death in the face.
Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted.
The live voting tracker is located here.
Please FORMAT YOUR VOTES CORRECTLY in the voting thread or the script will not pick your vote up!
before the final votes gb claims he pushed scott hard but in reality he defended firm tofu. Why?
because this is a list of the people he asked to not vote firm tofu and to go to scott.
Rayn, Palmar, kelsier
he also told rayn to vote clairty earlier and he told palmar to vote kelsier earlier. all over the place with who to lynch but not who to not lynch.
ALSO MORE IMPORTANTLY
he never asks me, clarity or rsoultin to switch are votes to scott. Why wouldnt he if he wanted scott to be lynched?
gb also claims kelsier can not be scum because firm tofu pushed him. but firmtofu also pushed scott.
i think this was a way to not seem like for it to be scummy to ask kelsier to switch to scott. cause why ask scum read from day one (who you posted a huge post on) to go to scott.
This is basically Boxerfred's case but with less words, and my VC post with a lot less words as well, but those got blown over as well.
On July 28 2015 02:39 boxerfred wrote:
I actually think we should go for someone who tried to stop the scum train:
scott31337 (4): boxerfred, Hopeless1der, FirmTofu, GlowingBear, FirmTofu
That would include me.
So, regarding me:
- I'm town. Har har, I can tell from my role PM.
- I was the first on scott so technically, I didn't jump a train but instead stayed on who I chose to vote for.
Hopeless1ider:
This is really a concerning post. Like "interested in contesting" - the usage of this word implies that the claim is not legit. Also while it appears like a proactive thing, trying to raise interest, there is no follow up to it when such thoughts didn't get much grip.
Reading his filter:
He says something on palmar, then on scott (casts his vote on him), a bit on Onegut ("Null/town lean") and a bit of blabla ("can't read him") on Rayn. Lots of flailing, nothing that's really helpful for town, not in the slightest tbh.
GlowingBear:
Well he did a huge case on Kelsier D1, biggest argument being
Well. That'd be a bit of way-too-hardcore bussing wouldn't it? Although I think KSC actually is capable of doing it, he bussed and double bussed in Gaiden, too. However how likely is it to role scum twice in a row? Not too likely. I know this is not bullet proof but it's another indicator of KSC being town.
However, his case doesn't get grip. But by that time, Tofu has 5 votes upon him and it becomes rather likely that he'd be the lynch! GB knows that, he already soft defends Tofu:
Then, he joins the train:
He does that, being the 6th vote. He brings up a totally NEW reason though, like as if he had to justify why he jumps the train on Tofu. However 20 minutes later, he again starts soft defending Tofu, indirectly:
Also, note how he says "scummy lurkers" without any follow up though. Like, 0 follow up.
Next up, scott:
So the guy he wants to hang (of course along with KSC) says something about an obscure feeling and GB simply asks who scott is referring to? Well, GB (as quoted above!) actually says quite a lot of times that Tofu is not a good lynch. That clarity is better. Kelsier is better. Scott is better. How is he so sure?
He then goes on with some words on mafia trying to get another train than tofu running. And BOOM, GB tries to get another train starting:
So yeah. I'm pretty convinced that GB is scum.
I actually think we should go for someone who tried to stop the scum train:
scott31337 (4): boxerfred, Hopeless1der, FirmTofu, GlowingBear, FirmTofu
That would include me.
So, regarding me:
- I'm town. Har har, I can tell from my role PM.
- I was the first on scott so technically, I didn't jump a train but instead stayed on who I chose to vote for.
Hopeless1ider:
This is really a concerning post. Like "interested in contesting" - the usage of this word implies that the claim is not legit. Also while it appears like a proactive thing, trying to raise interest, there is no follow up to it when such thoughts didn't get much grip.
Reading his filter:
He says something on palmar, then on scott (casts his vote on him), a bit on Onegut ("Null/town lean") and a bit of blabla ("can't read him") on Rayn. Lots of flailing, nothing that's really helpful for town, not in the slightest tbh.
GlowingBear:
Well he did a huge case on Kelsier D1, biggest argument being
Well. That'd be a bit of way-too-hardcore bussing wouldn't it? Although I think KSC actually is capable of doing it, he bussed and double bussed in Gaiden, too. However how likely is it to role scum twice in a row? Not too likely. I know this is not bullet proof but it's another indicator of KSC being town.
However, his case doesn't get grip. But by that time, Tofu has 5 votes upon him and it becomes rather likely that he'd be the lynch! GB knows that, he already soft defends Tofu:
Then, he joins the train:
He does that, being the 6th vote. He brings up a totally NEW reason though, like as if he had to justify why he jumps the train on Tofu. However 20 minutes later, he again starts soft defending Tofu, indirectly:
Also, note how he says "scummy lurkers" without any follow up though. Like, 0 follow up.
Next up, scott:
So the guy he wants to hang (of course along with KSC) says something about an obscure feeling and GB simply asks who scott is referring to? Well, GB (as quoted above!) actually says quite a lot of times that Tofu is not a good lynch. That clarity is better. Kelsier is better. Scott is better. How is he so sure?
He then goes on with some words on mafia trying to get another train than tofu running. And BOOM, GB tries to get another train starting:
So yeah. I'm pretty convinced that GB is scum.
Look familiar? It got buried mostly though. GB's Day 1 looks pretty bad.