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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 29 2015 09:33 GMT
#1161
what a huge pile of shit, not fun at all.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 29 2015 09:34 GMT
#1162
Boxer i think one of ur points is really good on Gb. I really do care

The part about justifying his switch is pure gold.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 29 2015 09:34 GMT
#1163
oh yeah and #vote gb
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 29 2015 09:38 GMT
#1164
On July 28 2015 02:39 boxerfred wrote:
I actually think we should go for someone who tried to stop the scum train:

scott31337 (4): boxerfred, Hopeless1der, FirmTofu, GlowingBear, FirmTofu

That would include me.

So, regarding me:

- I'm town. Har har, I can tell from my role PM.
- I was the first on scott so technically, I didn't jump a train but instead stayed on who I chose to vote for.

Hopeless1ider:

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On July 25 2015 08:59 Hopeless1der wrote:
Anyone interested in contesting the claims or are we going to just ignore that? For reference, my thoughts are onegu good, rayn indifferent.

I also don't get how Palmar literally claiming Mafia is conducive to being "blunt and to the point" as town.

Or kenpachI ruling people. Someone teach me how to kenpachI rule.


This is really a concerning post. Like "interested in contesting" - the usage of this word implies that the claim is not legit. Also while it appears like a proactive thing, trying to raise interest, there is no follow up to it when such thoughts didn't get much grip.

Reading his filter:
He says something on palmar, then on scott (casts his vote on him), a bit on Onegut ("Null/town lean") and a bit of blabla ("can't read him") on Rayn. Lots of flailing, nothing that's really helpful for town, not in the slightest tbh.

GlowingBear:

Well he did a huge case on Kelsier D1, biggest argument being

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4) HE IS VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT

HE IS FUCKING VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT. SCOTT WAS THE FIRST GUY TO ANNOY HIM (AND KELSIER WOULD LYNCH PEOPLE DOING THAT)! Why he doesn't prefer a scott lynch? Hell, a lot of people thinks he is mafia! Instead of going against the guy that certainly looked as mafia for him, he is going against questionmark!Tofu. More than that, he wasn't advocating for a lynch on Scott, but opened a range of possible lynches he would go against (tofu, scott, obi, clarity).
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, PEOPLE! COME ON!!!


Well. That'd be a bit of way-too-hardcore bussing wouldn't it? Although I think KSC actually is capable of doing it, he bussed and double bussed in Gaiden, too. However how likely is it to role scum twice in a row? Not too likely. I know this is not bullet proof but it's another indicator of KSC being town.

However, his case doesn't get grip. But by that time, Tofu has 5 votes upon him and it becomes rather likely that he'd be the lynch! GB knows that, he already soft defends Tofu:

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On July 27 2015 04:37 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:33 rsoultin wrote:
@ GB

1. he's used his posts to contribute and make reads - point is wrong
2. could be if the point is the very last sentence...but i interpreted it as him saying that (scott? i think it was?) shouldn't be shutting down my reads just because he thought ksc was "scummiest"
3. yeah, null read is null here still - point is wrong
4. you're still stuck on "annoyance" meaning that ksc thinks you're scum - point is wrong

the only point that holds any water here, gb, is the second, just as rayn said, and frankly i can still easily see it coming from town so it doesn't outweigh all the things that i think makes ksc town this game


Well, I think point 2 is damning enough.

I can get what you're saying about the others.

But, as I stated, he repeatedly deflected pressure. It wasn't only on that post. He never answered my other pushes on him, he shut snickers down too.

I think it's very damning

I don't see the points on tofu. I do see the point on scott


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On July 27 2015 05:00 GlowingBear wrote:
Rayn we have so much information to deal with tofu tomorrow. Scott and clarity are way better lynches


Then, he joins the train:

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On July 27 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Nah actually I'm voting tofu

I just saw that he is clearly voting every other wagon other than him.

##vote: FirmTofu


He does that, being the 6th vote. He brings up a totally NEW reason though, like as if he had to justify why he jumps the train on Tofu. However 20 minutes later, he again starts soft defending Tofu, indirectly:

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On July 27 2015 05:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar, lynch Scott
Or, if you want to do the correct thing, lynch keksier


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On July 27 2015 05:39 GlowingBear wrote:
Town isn't bad, any of these options are okay lynches, I just think we have better targets other than tofu (I.e. Scummy lurkers)

The possibility of having a Mafia between one of those is high

Also, note how he says "scummy lurkers" without any follow up though. Like, 0 follow up.

Next up, scott:

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On July 27 2015 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.

unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.

if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him.


Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him.


I must say I also think it could be possible

Scott, who are the Mafia doing that?

So the guy he wants to hang (of course along with KSC) says something about an obscure feeling and GB simply asks who scott is referring to? Well, GB (as quoted above!) actually says quite a lot of times that Tofu is not a good lynch. That clarity is better. Kelsier is better. Scott is better. How is he so sure?

He then goes on with some words on mafia trying to get another train than tofu running. And BOOM, GB tries to get another train starting:

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On July 27 2015 06:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:40 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 04:44 KelsierSC wrote:
I thought scott was scummy, I posted a quote of his that was scummy.

Yes superb evidence, it really makes me look "terrible"

can we lynch tofu already.


Why do I get this feeling we are right on Tofu and mafia are trying to get us to swap?


On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.

unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.

if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him.


Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him.


On July 27 2015 05:57 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.

unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.

if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him.


Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him.


I must say I also think it could be possible

Scott, who are the Mafia doing that?


I do not know if you are mafia but you seem to be fighting his lynch pretty strongly (posted your case on Kelsier a couple hours ago when it looked like Tofu's getting the noose when maybe it would be better for day 2, asked rayn to vote me, asked palmar to vote me, etc.)


On July 27 2015 06:14 scott31337 wrote:
I have just re-read Clarity's filter, never mind it's really bad - a vote on me and a comment on Hopeless's post (although Hopeless did a bit better) and nothing much else.

I could vote for him too.


Thought process does not compute.

You think Tofu is Mafia
Then you say Mafia is trying to take people out of the tofu wagon.
The alternate wagon is clarity. I suppose you may think Mafia could be there.
But you call Mafia people that were in other wagons and does not consider people that moved to the clarity wagon.
You even raise suspicions on me but you don't call me Mafia (?), what's the point then?
Then you dive clarity and suddenly he is bad? What about Mafia protecting tofu by forming another wagon?????

Your thought process makes no sense and it completely fits Mafia perspective

GUYS VOTE SCOTT PLEASE


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On July 27 2015 06:35 GlowingBear wrote:
I mean, if you THINK Mafia is trying to take votes off of Mafia!Tofu you MUST consider they are forming the alternate wagon INSTEAD of ignoring people forming the alternate wagon and placing votes somewhere else. There is no other option

EVEN if you believed in what you just said, it would make me completely Mafia, and not just something you would say "I don't know you're Mafia". Then other Mafia are boxerfred (?) and PROBABLY A VET? Why a vet, which vet, why not me.

Then you simply say you could lynch clarity, man. You just said Mafia was taking votes off of tofu.

You can't me town.

PEOPLE PLEASE, SCOTT CAN'T BE TOWN


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On July 27 2015 06:45 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 06:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah we don't have the people to switch to scott.
Even then I still want to lynch FT.

Let's go with that.


This is bullshit, we only need 3 more votes on scott


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On July 27 2015 06:54 GlowingBear wrote:
God!!! It's so clear his thought process is fabricsted!!!!! Fucking vote him!!!!!



So yeah. I'm pretty convinced that GB is scum.


How is Onegu not damning GB for that but only me? ASKDHALSKDHSALDKHSALDKASHJDLKASHDLKSAHSA Seriously Onegu scum

bye
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 29 2015 09:39 GMT
#1165
lynch gb + onegu, probably we'll be fine then
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 29 2015 10:25 GMT
#1166
On July 29 2015 18:39 boxerfred wrote:
lynch gb + onegu, probably we'll be fine then



Onegu confirmed town remember. Thinking you might qualify for the onegu rule at this point also.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 29 2015 10:26 GMT
#1167
Seems like the anger is fake also...
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 29 2015 11:51 GMT
#1168
On July 29 2015 13:30 rsoultin wrote:
35/80

lol >< there was once a coach. and this coach he says to me, rsoul, i've got something i like to call the gb read. and i said, hey, coach eden, what's the gb read? and he says to me, well rsoul my awesome pupil, the gb read is this thing where town bounces all over the place with his votes in response to new info. and to this day this is part of how i read the bear (and several other players, in truth)...it has yet to fail me

your case is not really a case, snickers

you weren't there to ask. clarity wasn't there to ask. i was already saying i didn't want to lynch scott

lol, gb, you've been glowingbeared ><


And I did what everyone does: never read the case lol
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 29 2015 11:55 GMT
#1169
Boxer who is Mafia with me?
I'm adorable.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 29 2015 11:57 GMT
#1170
On July 29 2015 20:55 GlowingBear wrote:
Boxer who is Mafia with me?



I think he thinks I am somehow. Which cant possibly be a real read. Lynch with fire
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 29 2015 12:01 GMT
#1171
37/80

On July 27 2015 05:43 Snickers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2015 04:30 boxerfred wrote:
Gonna look into the Kelsier case next. Also gonna look into Clarity.



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On July 27 2015 04:53 boxerfred wrote:
so I make it short: I don't see KSC being scum, nor do I see GB being scum. Lynch clarity then?


GUYS GUESS WHAT IM GETTING A LONG HARD TOWN READ ON BOXER WHY IS THAT??????????

BECAUSE HE COMES TO THE THREAD AND SPENDS 20X MORE TIME ON DEFENDING HIMSELF THAN ON DECEIDING WHO THE FUCK TO LYNCH. EVEN THOUGH YOU ALLL ARE AMAZINGLY GOOD TOWN PLAYERS. HOLY FUCKING SHIT. BOXER: LET ME DEFEND MYSELF WHEN IM NOT EVEN GOING TO GET LYNCHED.

HE IS OBV SCUM LYNCH THIS DUDE

SERIOUSLY LYNCH HIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM






your last post before the lynch (over an hour before). you weren't there. not only that, but you made it clear you didn't want to lynch scott, so why would he try to get you to?

also, everything i said about scott leading up to the lynch from about two hours prior:
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On July 27 2015 05:08 rsoultin wrote:
-_- tofu you'd do better to shut up; that post makes me want to lynch you on principle

eh i get what you're saying, ksc, but the difference is clarity is the only one i strongly feel is scum...i don't even really want to lynch scott? like that whole oh he did a list post thing...so fucking what? he just did it in gaiden? you know? i dunnae -_- i won't stop a lynch on scott or tofu but i really want clarity

i think there's very little chance clarity flips town


On July 27 2015 06:00 rsoultin wrote:
lol

ye i still think clarity is more likely to flip scum
i'll lynch ft over scott

look, obi...yeah he's afkish

but he literally comes in without a read on rayn, says he'll sheep him (yes it can be assumed he's townreading rayn there cause otherwise it makes no fucking sense) and jumps on the hopeless wagon who, if i recall, was the only real non-retarded push at the time. sheeping implies he has no read on the guy yet he starts "championing" this push on hopeless while snickers is tunneling me which felt really off...like seriously if hopeless ever flips scum it's highly likely clar is scum for that alone

then he comes back in with that big post on why he thinks hopeless is scum (which essentially is really no different from what he first said, just that hopeless' first post felt "forced") like, if the guy isn't going to be around today, you really think he puts in NO WORK, sheeps someone who he may or may not have even have had a townread on, then pretends his read on hopeless was strong by parroting what he said in the first place, which was essentially parroting what RAYN said in the first place?

we all just got out of a game with clarity. you really think this is his town game? i don't


On July 27 2015 06:31 rsoultin wrote:
i'd rather hear scott's explanation first


On July 27 2015 06:36 rsoultin wrote:
good god gb ><

he only had clarity at null/slight scum and said his vote was suspicious -_-

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On July 27 2015 06:11 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:57 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.

unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.

if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him.


Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him.


I must say I also think it could be possible

Scott, who are the Mafia doing that?


I do not know if you are mafia but you seem to be fighting his lynch pretty strongly (posted your case on Kelsier a couple hours ago when it looked like Tofu's getting the noose when maybe it would be better for day 2, asked rayn to vote me, asked palmar to vote me, etc.)


Cool

What about the people you think are Mafia?


Boxerfred - His vote/post on me was pretty bad, I don't see his town direction - and he wants the Clarity lynch, who I think is town (or at least townier than these two, tofu and boxer)

The third I have no idea on - prby a vet.

I'd switch to boxer instead of Tofu - I'm just not seeing the Clarity points others are showing.


then this, and he goes into clarity's filter and changes his mind? that doesn't seem so horrible?

scott, what was townie about clarity when you said the post i quoted?


On July 27 2015 06:46 rsoultin wrote:
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On July 27 2015 06:40 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 06:36 rsoultin wrote:
good god gb ><

he only had clarity at null/slight scum and said his vote was suspicious -_-

On July 27 2015 06:11 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:57 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:
On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.

unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.

if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him.


Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him.


I must say I also think it could be possible

Scott, who are the Mafia doing that?


I do not know if you are mafia but you seem to be fighting his lynch pretty strongly (posted your case on Kelsier a couple hours ago when it looked like Tofu's getting the noose when maybe it would be better for day 2, asked rayn to vote me, asked palmar to vote me, etc.)


Cool

What about the people you think are Mafia?


Boxerfred - His vote/post on me was pretty bad, I don't see his town direction - and he wants the Clarity lynch, who I think is town (or at least townier than these two, tofu and boxer)

The third I have no idea on - prby a vet.

I'd switch to boxer instead of Tofu - I'm just not seeing the Clarity points others are showing.


then this, and he goes into clarity's filter and changes his mind? that doesn't seem so horrible?

scott, what was townie about clarity when you said the post i quoted?


It is horrible when he says Mafia is taking votes off of tofu but does not consider people forming the clarity wagon?
It is horrible because if he thinks tofu is mafis he should instantly believe clarity is town under that circumstances, but he dives and say he could lynch clarity but does not reevaluate his read on tofu?

In a vacuum, his flip isn't horrible. What is problematic is his thought process


ummm why does him thinking clarity could be mafia mean he has to think tofu is town? i get the other way around but it's like you took this an extra step without thinking it through

if he thinks clarity could be mafia then it doesn't matter who is trying to lynch clarity, and it doesn't mean he can't think that tofu is scum, too? it just means it doesn't make sense to pursue who is "scum" trying to switch the lynch to clarity?


On July 27 2015 06:53 rsoultin wrote:
tbh scott disappearing bothers me a lot more than his saying clar could be scum, too -_-


this ctrl f shit is amazing -_- snickers, you are impossible to take seriously when you can't do something as simple as actually verify the accuracy of your own accusations before you make them. there is only one post in that entire thing that even suggests i was considering lynching scott, but most of it was actually defending him and arguing with gb? if i'd wanted to lynch scott i would have fucking put my vote there -_-

i really, really want to ask you shit cause your judgment appears to be as thin as tissue paper and i want to look into things myself, but i'm not retarded -_- blah

why is my read on gb wrong?

why do people fundamentally disagree with the assessment that gb should know his own fucking teammates and it's a highly unnatural post to come from mafia/mafia to tell ft that he's not in this game? i think that's about as strong a reason to townread someone as it comes yet y'all keep griping about him

how am i wrong?!
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 29 2015 12:03 GMT
#1172
Hey Rsoul I might drop my scum read on you if you help me lynch BF.
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 29 2015 12:05 GMT
#1173
On July 29 2015 21:03 Onegu wrote:
Hey Rsoul I might drop my scum read on you if you help me lynch BF.


38/80

convince me bf is scum? he was pretty nonsensical in gaiden so i'm not inclined to scumread him for the usual range of stupid lol ><

i don't negotiate with terrorists xP you should townread me cause i'm town and it's fucking obvious
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 29 2015 12:08 GMT
#1174
I find it preaty comical that we were over 24 hours into the day and rsoultin still hasnt made a play. its just defense defense defense of her and gb.

even though she was around at EoD and saw live how the votes were happening she didnt read gb town from those with her night posts. She has him in her top town tier for some small post. Her top town tier.

i also find it cominical that gb was bitching i didnt read the thread but he missed the part where i was reading rsoul scum due to her behaivor and he said it was a good read before he knew it was from me. so gb aint reading the thread either.

oh yea let me clarify that rsoul wasnt ever going to vote scott towards the EoD. it was she was trying to get people to unconsolidate (is that a fucking word?) which is scummy in itself. But to unconsolidate off of scum aparently. Oh yea and town rsoul really doesnt know how many votes are on scott at EoD so she doesnt vote firm tofu. Rightttt a town player really doesnt know whats the voting is like at the end of day. are you going to blame the host?

and rsoul he started about people to not lynch firm tofu 3 hours before the post. You know how many times i fake pushed someone day one? he could definately try to get me to lync scott. Its not unheard of someone changing thier fucking mind 20 hours before EoD. MUTLIPLE FUCKING TIMES YOU TRIED TO GET RAYN TO NOT VOTE FIRM TOFU.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 29 2015 12:14 GMT
#1175
On July 28 2015 13:46 Snickers wrote:
so boxer is confirmed town just to let you know


Can you explain to me why you said this?
I'm adorable.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 29 2015 12:15 GMT
#1176
39/80

ye dude i'm town so none of this shit matters at all

thank you for adjusting your accusation to actually match what happened though. kudos. reading's an amazing thing

trying to get my scumread lynched = trying to get people to "unconsolidate" now

kudos again. you're brilliant. so fucking brilliant. there are so many examples of how brilliant you are it just dazzles me, and post-game if what i think is the case is the case i hope you get reamed by every townie in this game for your "brilliance". not that it would make a difference

yeah i haven't pushed anything today. also brilliant. go away. read the filter of one of your "top scumreads" like responsible townies do or get out of my fucking way. at least i'm not pushing obvious town with bs
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 29 2015 12:17 GMT
#1177
Is all the anger real this game? Like so much anger.

Guess I should stop trolling back at the anger directed at me.

Nah. What would the fun in that be.

Rsoul that isnt a BF vote... :/
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Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
July 29 2015 12:19 GMT
#1178
I need posts but its not cause im the cop. Nice try for the nk. I only got two posts left. let m e clarify some points above.

TOWN RSOUL is paying attention to the votes and trying to make accurate reads from them day one. she was around for the voting so it is super fresh in her heard and super clear.

BUT SHE DOESNT READ gb town until i point out how he was posting her only defense for putting him top town is one small sentence. Even though she did a big post in the middle of the night

so yea peasant snickers need more posts maybe rsoul would be so kinda since she isnt using them for anything townie.

also i find it hilarious that both gb and rsoul are the ones saying that a clarity lynch would tell us so much about this game.

also read rayns filter it goes well into the whole rsoul problem.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 29 2015 12:20 GMT
#1179
40/80

oneg that isn't a case on bf lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
July 29 2015 12:21 GMT
#1180
Nah, dear, he is right, you're very passive today. The funny thing tho is that Snickers is calling you Mafia for an argument I have brought against you.

You see, I still think that, tone wise, you are Mafia.
But when I objectively analyse your play, you're town.

This struggle makes me postpone any further analysis of you today. I really want to get rid of scummy lurkers first.
I'm adorable.
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