Newbie Student Mafia XIII

On July 23 2015 01:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:

^ Glad to see you're joining us ruXxar.

On July 24 2015 01:44 Half the Sky wrote:
Pretty nice seeing all new blood coming in our doors.

Who is going to conduct the classic TL initiation for the first timers? *gathers a bag of nooses*



Hmmmm, looks like it's just Barakos and Mage...but still, who says we can't have a little bit of pre-game fun

On July 24 2015 04:53 n00bKing wrote:
The snow glows white on the mountain tonight, not a footprint to be seen...

On July 24 2015 07:08 NocturneMage wrote:
RNG gave me town, thank God. I'm having a beer or two. Might be three. Not sure yet.

ruXxar sounds like he's sick of playing scum though.

Although if the moderator is going to make this a Pokemon themed game, I really don't know what to say.

On July 24 2015 07:11 Barakos wrote:
Hi guys!

Will be here, lurking aroung and posting in some hours... playing hero siege with a friend atm.

On July 24 2015 07:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On a different note, if you tunnel on me again I will make sure you die.

On July 24 2015 07:25 n00bKing wrote:

##Vote: ruXxar

There ya go. How about now? :D

On July 24 2015 07:29 n00bKing wrote:

Meh, I don't get people's reluctance to play as Scum. Granted, this is only my third game here, but I think it'll be exciting, whenever I finally get a chance to kill some of you people. Blue role? Sure, cool, I'll take that. But I'd rather be Scum than VT (maybe I'll feel differently once it actually happens.)

On July 24 2015 07:32 NocturneMage wrote:
Well it's my first game here and most of my mafia experience is from real life. It seems harder to fake being town in real life and I can't see it being much different on forum mafia with the body language and tone of voice aside.

On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote:
I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play:


Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it.

He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen.

On July 24 2015 07:39 NocturneMage wrote:


I played it a lot at parties in uni and in grad school. It was the party game of party games. I also have played a board game called Resistance which is somewhat similar except people don't die but you also do figure out if people are lying or not and try to include them on your team or not and then pass or fail the expedition party.

What is your experience with mafia or is forums just it?

On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:


It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read?

I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking?

On July 24 2015 07:59 disformation wrote:


Eh, I'd say it is a bit of both.
I like to learn from mistakes.
But on the other hand it really feels nice that after only playing 2 games, shadowing in 3 games and reading a few old games I "know" 8/13 players in this game.

Also if you are able to keep this style up all game I will be super impressed. =D

On July 24 2015 08:03 n00bKing wrote:

Don't encourage him. lol

On July 24 2015 08:34 disformation wrote:


Haven't even bothered to figure out where I put my pitchfork yet. But after shadowing a bunch of games where town lost, I believe a bit of scepticism to be very healthy.



Do I smell a thinly veiled threat?

Also currently skimming through your Himalayas for the posts I remember disliking. And I have to say that your play was pretty damn good. Like your interactions with HF for example.

On July 24 2015 08:53 n00bKing wrote:

False. Barakos and rayn each made a throwaway post after the Day started. If we decide to "lynch all liars" we can start with you! \o/

On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:


Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day...

And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.-

Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon...

Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him.

Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts...

Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me.

Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation!

On July 24 2015 09:09 Breshke wrote:
Ruxxar is noobking town or mafia?

On July 24 2015 17:54 Rels wrote:

Important lesson for a mafia guy right ? (=

On July 24 2015 17:53 Rels wrote:
Alright here I go.


This first post from NocturneMage seems very prepared to me. And prepared post = scumlean. Why is it prepared ? Let me show you.

RNG gave me town, thank God. I'm having a beer or two. Might be three. Not sure yet. <= VT claim + fluff about beer.

ruXxar sounds like he's sick of playing scum though. <= Discussion about something in game.

Although if the moderator is going to make this a Pokemon themed game, I really don't know what to say. <= Funny remark about host.

So three different subjects in first post = prepared post. And prepared post means he may be afraid to post, hence why he prepared it so much.

Plus in his later posts there are lots of questions + "i'm a noob" statement. See spoiler for source. It could mean he is mafia doesn't know what to talk about; could also just mean he's newbie and doesn't know what to talk about. So NAI.

+ Show Spoiler +

So, ##Vote NocturneMage

@NocturneMage: if you're town, I want you to read Flexes' filter, who is also playing his first game. Only two posts, but he already discussed something relevant to the game. If you don't know: in the OP, if you click Flexes' name, you have access to all the posts he did in this thread.

On July 24 2015 18:46 Rels wrote:

No you don't get it.

I'm not saying NocturneMage prepared his post before the game started.
I'm saying he thought long and hard before he posted it, instead of being free of mind and posting what he felt.
The evidence that he thought long and hard before posting it is the fact that there are 3 different subjects in the post.

Then, I'm saying that the fact that he is not free of mind posting his first post may indicate he's mafia.

On July 24 2015 18:55 Rels wrote:
@ruxxar

On July 24 2015 21:09 Rels wrote:

OK ruxxar. So this line:



has two purposes:
- joke for those who knows it
- reaction test for mafia

Am I correct ?

And is this other line from the same post also an inside joke I'm not part of ?

On July 24 2015 21:55 Rels wrote:

OK that makes little sense to me that you have two separates explanations for a sentence containing 7 words.

On July 24 2015 22:11 Damdred wrote:
Why he liked my post about things, I think he did roughly

On July 24 2015 22:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:

I still hate you. Spot spouting poetry shit and get to business you fool. Traps D1 like this are so bad it's ridiculous. It's completely dependent on the Mafia making a slip while people jump on your wagon. In either case, no one is taking you seriously at this point because of your poetry nonsense so you might as well just stop at this point. It's the last few hours we have. Get down to business.

On July 24 2015 22:58 NocturneMage wrote:


I'm looking through ruXxar's posts and just ignoring his poetry for now. The poetry alone makes him high, not mafia.

My inclination to read him null or slight mafia at best comes from his hesitation in reading noobking and even after later pages he talks to noob but doesn't have a read on him. I can't see a reason for that. He calls him edgy and stiff and this is in spite of saying he's going to engage in his own way. He doesn't seem to be committing to an actual read on n00bking, and mafia need to make up reads, so this appears to me he's trying to do something like that.

The response to Breshke makes no sense...."between town and PR"
I'm guessing that means power role? If so, why are you suggesting who might be a power role in the open? The inclination to call him town also makes no sense when you are calling him edgy and stiff, terms that might indicate he's not comfortable and therefore mafia.

On July 24 2015 23:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Bro, what the fuck is the point of all this spam when all you're going to say is "i don't know" from your reads of the reactions to your spam? You got the reactions you wanted. Multiple conversations have started from those reactions. It's time for you to get down to business, drop the act, start posting reads, and start to help town. Don't you realize? No one is taking your poetry spam seriously anymore and it's already lost its desired effect. So hurry up and do something productive.

On July 24 2015 23:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Thank you. Mafia reads and neutral reads? Anyone in particular you'd like to point out?

On July 24 2015 23:48 Rels wrote:

Can you give some explanations ?

On July 24 2015 22:06 Rels wrote:

I love the way you talk. (=

On July 25 2015 00:08 NocturneMage wrote:




ruxxar are you saying this is forced or the next post?



I disagreed with frequency alone being a town indicator becauce it can be both ways but why are you saying he's too certain? Why couldn't this just be confidence? He's saying obviously, then he says "subject to change" then he's saying "general direction". The explanation flows so I don't know where you mean too certain.

Have you played with ruXxar before? When he's townie he posts a lot of filler posts although his townie tone is glaringly obvious. He also never makes firm cases and mostly sheeps cases although he sometimes points out things no one else noticed. So it's not uncommon for him to not post alignments and just create conversation with others. It's mostly up to us to start making reads based off the conversation he starts. So he never really makes alignment reads.

And anyway, even if you expected him to give his alignment reads (which isn't what he really does)

To be brutally honest, I can honestly see ruXxar not getting any reads off of his poetry spam

I still hate you. Spot spouting poetry shit and get to business you fool. Traps D1 like this are so bad it's ridiculous. It's completely dependent on the Mafia making a slip while people jump on your wagon. In either case, no one is taking you seriously at this point because of your poetry nonsense so you might as well just stop at this point. It's the last few hours we have. Get down to business.

Bro, what the fuck is the point of all this spam when all you're going to say is "i don't know" from your reads of the reactions to your spam? You got the reactions you wanted. Multiple conversations have started from those reactions. It's time for you to get down to business, drop the act, start posting reads

On July 25 2015 00:32 Rels wrote:

I don't see any arguments in this "lynch-with-fire" case.

On July 24 2015 22:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Because I'm Mafia buddy. What other reason could there be? ~ ~ ~

On July 25 2015 00:52 Damdred wrote:


This is a dumb thing. But it makes you more town

On July 24 2015 19:41 Tictock wrote:
Drew a few cards for some of ya. I would appreciate it if you could take a look at your card and give me your impression of it.

People chosen by some means.

n00b - 4 of Wands - Completion
+ Show Spoiler +

rayn - 4 of Cups - Luxury
+ Show Spoiler +

Moosy - Knight of Swords
+ Show Spoiler +

ruXx - Ace of Disks
+ Show Spoiler +

Noc -7 of Wands - Valor
+ Show Spoiler +

Flex - Kight of Cups
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 25 2015 01:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Lol you want my honest expectations of ruXxar? I think he's a shit player who can't give reads and who makes shitty arguments like this. He tunnels hard as hell and generates way too much spam for him to be worth as a townie. That's my honest interpretation of ruXxar.

HOWEVER

even if he's a shit player the least he can do since he signed up is try and participate rather than spam useless poetry. Which is why I've been pulling his teeth and trying to get him to fucking participate although I doubt he's going to provide anything useful anyway.

As for your argument LOL. The reason why I'm going to take particular care in looking at your posts is because I hold a grudge over your worthless play in our first newbie game together. That's what I mean when I say I will "suspect you hard". It's not that I think that you're Mafia but that I'm going to make sure that if you are Mafia that I'll catch it and make sure you die.

Want me to more brutally honest or does this suffice?

On July 25 2015 01:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Sure I'll give you an answer.

I read you as slight town lean because you're being as useless as the other newbie game we were in where you were townie.

On July 24 2015 18:20 Rels wrote:
What the fuck moosy I don't understand you. Breshke's question was very clear and you dodged it multiple times + you didn't even answer it.

OK I don't understand the Breshke-moosy stuff from moosy's perspective, so I'm going to be super clear, one step at a time. Let's begin with the beginning.


What do you mean with "You might be onto something here Damdred" ?

On July 25 2015 01:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:


Can I just point out this shitty play for you all? If we're trying to create a good town atmosphere you're supposed to accept what people say and bounce thoughts off of others to create a productive atmosphere. Statements like these just brushes other's thoughts away creating a shitty atmosphere. smh ruXxar. Alright I'm done with bashing him for now.

On July 25 2015 01:33 ruXxar wrote:
Typical mafia play, attack my person and character in an attempt to diminish the validity of my opinion.

On July 25 2015 01:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:
even if he's a shit player the least he can do since he signed up is try and participate rather than spam useless poetry. Which is why I've been pulling his teeth and trying to get him to fucking participate although I doubt he's going to provide anything useful anyway.

As for your argument LOL. The reason why I'm going to take particular care in looking at your posts is because I hold a grudge over your worthless play in our first newbie game together.

On July 25 2015 01:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Lol yeah you're shit. You ask for my honest opinion of you then spurn it when you dislike what you hear. Give me more bias buddy. Please disillusion yourself more..

On July 25 2015 01:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:

I'm not afraid to respond in the same way that you've responded to me bb.

If things like these make you think I'm Mafia that just goes further to show you're a shitty player. These things just show how much I dislike you and go in no way to show that I'm Mafia. Continue to build your tunnel tho. It's fun to see you flailing and it just goes to prove how useless you are.

On July 25 2015 02:04 Rels wrote:
ruxxar why are you still attacking moosy when the "change in attitude" thing is not true ?

On July 24 2015 12:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Either way, I think we can both agree that we'll have to see how ruXxar acts from here on out and judge from there. Which will be easy because I'll be suspecting him hard if he doesn't start posting a shit ton like he normally does. And I'm going to take an especially hard look at him for reasons I stated before.

Bro, what the fuck is the point of all this spam when all you're going to say is "i don't know" from your reads of the reactions to your spam? You got the reactions you wanted. Multiple conversations have started from those reactions. It's time for you to get down to business, drop the act, start posting reads

On July 25 2015 02:20 Rels wrote:

First, he's not suspecting you.

Second, I think what he's saying is "post more useful stuff".

On July 25 2015 02:51 disformation wrote:


Can probably add Flexes

On July 25 2015 02:54 disformation wrote:


Hm. Might have made my post a bit unclear. Might reformat.
I was "sorta involved" in two games with you. (shadowed a player in two games)
The one I was in a game with and probably didn't have much interaction with is barakos.

On July 25 2015 03:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:

but that's not true.

On July 25 2015 03:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you guys think Barakos is really reaction testing people when he specifically points a finger on me, when my reaction is to vote for him he has nothing to say about it?

On July 25 2015 03:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:

inbetween lines.
read more carefully.

On July 25 2015 03:24 Tictock wrote:


Dis you need to roll something other than town, just for varieties sake.

Still nice to see you out of the shadows ^.^

Since you asked... and yes Hanged Man would be ironic...
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 25 2015 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I can do a multi-quote post if this is that hard to understand but i'd rather not waste time on that.

On July 25 2015 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:

yes.

On July 25 2015 03:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:

???

On July 25 2015 03:40 Tictock wrote:


By the way, I'm pretty certain at least 2 of the people i gave cards to here are mafia...

Also it is of note that I later drew a Card for Sulf... he also received a 4 of Cups just like ryan.

On July 25 2015 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:

of course i am not mafia.
why would you think so?

On July 25 2015 03:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:

you vote in this thread.
why do you ask me if you do not think i am mafia?

On July 25 2015 03:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I am actually pretty awful in forum mafia as scum because i can't make myself care enough.

On July 25 2015 03:54 Tictock wrote:
Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen ...

We have hardly used up even half our day! There is still yet some time to play...

So much needless aggression, you realize you are more likely to shove a brother than an enemy?

You all scream for a feast for the mind, yet have spent most of your time fighting over scraps...

On July 25 2015 03:59 Tictock wrote:


Ironic...

I will in due time.

On July 25 2015 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ruXxar do you believe i am:
1) right in that Barakos is mafia
2) wrong on Barakos being mafia
3) mafia pushing a townie
4) mafia bussing

with reasoning please

On July 24 2015 22:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh yeah breshke... i forgot about breshke.
FYI i wanna hear moose answer damdred before elaborating further.

On July 25 2015 04:23 n00bKing wrote:

I think I may be able to clear up this misunderstanding between Rels and ruXxar. When ruXxar says "it's from another voice mafia game" he could be talking about the "finnski claims cop" line, instead of still talking about the Yakuza claim.

On July 25 2015 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:

First sentence: What were his alignments in those games?
Second: Why not?

On July 25 2015 04:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:

So, how do you compare his play this game to his mafia play?
Why again it's a "thing mafia would never say"?

You have nothing to actually compare. You can just say "same/different".
And it doesn't mean anything as you can't say "different as in way of _______ from his towngames compared to his scumgames (or vice versa)".

moot argument.

On July 25 2015 04:47 n00bKing wrote:

...weren't you scum in that game too, though? If you're Town this game, then being suspicious of him because he reads you the same way he did when you were both scum is...curious.

On July 25 2015 04:46 Tictock wrote:


The point of tarot is not always what the card "means" but rather what the card "implies". The difference is that one is a wrote definition whereas the other is a subjective interpretation.

In other words, we can all use google to see what the card "means" but what I was interested was in what the card implies to you. Reactions to me asking you to read the card instead of the card itself are also valid ^.^



Possible.

I realize full well what I am doing.

On July 25 2015 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:

you can argue that on N1.
Or i can argue you are scum if Barakos flips mafia.

hint: take a stance. if you think Barakos is town push another lynch then, because i am pushing a mislynch and if you are town you do not want to mislynch.

On July 25 2015 05:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:

how about you convince the rest of us to vote for him them?
and tell me how my case is bad.

right now you only have dumb reasons (sorry if i am being rude here) to think my case is bad. or rather, you haven't even commented on my case in any way, you just bring up reasons why Barakos COULD be town instead of arguing why the scummy stuff is not scummy.

On July 25 2015 05:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:

how about you convince the rest of us to vote for him them?
and tell me how my case is bad.

right now you only have dumb reasons (sorry if i am being rude here) to think my case is bad. or rather, you haven't even commented on my case in any way, you just bring up reasons why Barakos COULD be town instead of arguing why the scummy stuff is not scummy.

On July 25 2015 00:27 ruXxar wrote:
Don't like moosy at all:

To breshke:


To me:


Lynch with fire.

On July 25 2015 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:

why are you even talking to me about this right now?
Like you LITERALLY said "only reason rayn is scum here is for abusing town sentiment of bad barakos post to push a mis-lynch".

go read then come back and do not derail the thread with useless shit please.
say things when you have things to say. you havent even read what i have to say yet you invent a narrative i could be scum for something you don't even know!?!?!?

why?

On July 25 2015 05:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I have a really hard time seeing why he is mafia based on that.
"ruxx does not give reads as town" != "i can't ever ask ruxx to give reads"
why does it make him mafia to be exact?

On July 25 2015 05:16 Damdred wrote:


Please don't write a pointless narrative that has no basis in fact. I actually love rolling scum and I never really get caught in tmi.

Anyway you going to have a really hard time in big boy games if this is what you focus on when you are town.

On July 25 2015 06:05 n00bKing wrote:

I guess it makes more sense as a "lazy man approach" than anything else. But don't you think he would remember that you were teammates together in that game? And that he might expect you to notice that he's giving the same player the same type of read, as he did when he was Scum? I guess that could be a WIFOM play, but I don't know that he would try to WIFOM you when you're relatively new.

On July 25 2015 05:16 Damdred wrote:


Please don't write a pointless narrative that has no basis in fact. I actually love rolling scum and I never really get caught in tmi.

Anyway you going to have a really hard time in big boy games if this is what you focus on when you are town.

On July 25 2015 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:

what do i post as the first post of the game that is not a throwaway post in your opinion?

On July 25 2015 06:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:

well am i "not gonna do shit this cycle"?

On July 25 2015 06:23 n00bKing wrote:

1) What read do you mean?
2) I completely agree.
3) Come on, man. You mentioned earlier that Barakos might have been "buddying" with that comment. But he's not, it's obviously just a joke. He's not actually trying to give me town credit for knowing how to count. How could you think that? I've seen players try to buddy up to me before (or "pocket" me, as it seems to be called around here), and I'm definitely wary of it. But this is not an instance of that. For him to name me top town for knowing how to count is the same as if he named rayn top town for having the most letters in his screen name. Pay attention.

On July 25 2015 06:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:

And that matters how?

On July 25 2015 06:30 Damdred wrote:


Tt is tick tock.

Rels and I had strange interactions where he said I was scummy for influencing him to vote when he voted before I even made the post and then tried to wiggle out of it.

Idk I haven't played much attention to mages here, I probably should read him but I think Barak is the best lynch today.

And I was pretty sure you were town early and you took the lead no reason for,me to fight and argue with you when we want the same thing here.

On July 25 2015 06:42 Damdred wrote:
Ruxxor you just town read me and now say I'm scum what are you doing

On July 25 2015 06:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I mean, and this is to ruxxar aswell, whatever i do post as my first post (unless claim something), how is that alignment indicative - or how is that not considered anything but a "throwaway post" (which you should not call it because it is just --- a post)?

On July 25 2015 06:46 Damdred wrote:
I really don't get the big deal over rayns entry post. Its Nai, he's doing things...so it's dumb and pointless

On July 25 2015 06:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:

calling the first post of the game as throwaway post is fucking retarded.
i ma being honest here. it is fucking retarded if you are town.

On July 25 2015 06:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:

stop being a dumbass if you are town.

On July 25 2015 07:00 Bill Murray wrote:
Day 1 Votecount
Day 1 ends in 24 hours

barakos (3): raynpelikoneet, disinformation, Damdred
ruxXar (1): n00bKing
MoosyDoosy (1): Ruxxar
Not voting(8):Rels, MoosyDoosy, Sulfurus, Barakos, NocturneMage, Flexes, Ticktock, Breshke
Barakos is currently set to be lynched! You got until 22:00 GMT (+00:00) to vote! Also you can find the vote count here with a 15 minute delay Here.

On July 25 2015 07:02 Damdred wrote:


Here's the deal you've played I think maybe 2 games with me one I was scum, one I was town who didn't play n1-d4.

Its no offense but your meta read is insanely under developed. Rayn is on the fence on if I'm scummy or not so obviously I'm doing something wrong in the game and that's on me to a degree. But I still think,the meta is wrong

On July 25 2015 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:



Why is my post more of a throwaway post than these two?
ruxxar, noobking.
i DO want an answer.

On July 25 2015 07:26 n00bKing wrote:

This is extremely faulty reasoning, if you're a Town player. If you are Town, and if you think Rels is Town, then the only reason for you to not care that I have my vote on him is if you think I am Scum. If you think all 3 of us are Town, you have a responsibility to help me see why Rels is not the right lynch today. Because every Town vote that is on a Town player gives Scum more control over the Noose. My vote being on a Town player would increase the odds of a mislynch, even if Rels is not the target of that mislynch. I am a reasonable, rational person. If you think there are reasons to townread Rels, let's talk about them.

This doesn't argue with anything I've said. Correct, my filter offers no reasons why Barakos isn't Mafia. However, my filter DOES offer reasons why Rels IS Mafia. No one can read my posts about Rels and then ask me "How come you're voting Rels over Barakos or Sulfurus?"

On July 25 2015 07:48 Damdred wrote:
He has an easier time giving town reads early generally.

On July 25 2015 07:52 Sulfurus wrote:
I believe I have 'auto' now since in a 13 player game we get 6 lynches (not counting a mafa nk + vigi) and I found at least 7 town including myself.

Here are the towns in order of approximate townyness

Towns

• raynpelikoneet
  
• Damdred
  
• Flexes
  
• Breshke
  
• ruXxar
  
• rels
  

And ofcourse lynches in order of aproximate scumyness

Lynches

• Barakos
  
• MoosyDoosy
  
• n00bKing
  
• NocturneMage
  
• TickTock
  
• disformation
  

I apologize to disformation for putting your name on the list; I think your probably town but I needed a sixth name.

On July 25 2015 08:43 Sulfurus wrote:


Just look at this post



He literally sets himself up to not have to give any reads but gives reads anyways as a new player who, as mafia, has every reason to stay as silent as possible while getting used to the thread and once he did get comfortable he posted this gem



Instead of acting out of paranoia of getting scum read he is going out of his way to make his posts as high quality as possible.

Now compare this with the way Nocturne has been playing...

On July 25 2015 08:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Yeh cuz u suck. Will continue reading from this post. Looks like a lot of action went down or ruXxar spammed a lot during the time I was away. I'll do the list after I'm finished reading since others besides ruXxar asked for it.

On July 25 2015 09:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:

LOL like you should be talking ruXxar. All right all right I'll stop bashing the poor kid. Just can't help seeing these little posts. Will finish reading in silence and post afterwards.

On July 25 2015 09:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Okay read through posts. Glad people realize ruXxar is a dumb.

But whatever. It looks like the important portion of this day was in the last few pages so I'll read over it, look at filters, and decide which camp to take place in.

On July 25 2015 21:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ruxxar I think you and moosy both need to stop tunneling each other for stupid as fuck reasons.
just ignore each other for a while and focus on something else. you are both town anyways.

On July 25 2015 22:03 ruXxar wrote:


TMI scum slip?

On July 25 2015 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ruxxar do you seriously believe i am mafia?
honest question

On July 25 2015 22:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
how about you push something then?

On July 25 2015 22:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Because you are. It is quite obvious.

Well said bro, your vote is still on me, and you just camplained about the lynch, so can you now push someone then as you seem to be thinking Barakos is not mafia and this lynch is bad?

On July 25 2015 23:01 Rels wrote:

Now working!


I get your feeling because I had the exact same one in the last game I played (HF game). Turns out the lynch was mafia, but yeah too-easy lynches are weird.

See the vote count though; only 5 votes on Barakos now.

On July 25 2015 23:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you are one of the few players i know who just makes 1000x more sense as mafia then they do as town.

Himalayas was a game i actually followed from the beginning to the end and when bugs replaced out he was one of my strongest townreads. When you get into the game i was like "yeah this ruxxar dude is definitely mafia because he is making sense but not really saying/doing anything". I also read Gaiden to some extent, and to be honest i thought you were town because from the beginning rsoultin was screaming red to me, apparently i read you town for your bus, as i only read your posts from something like D4 (when you were double bussing). I also think i read a start of some game you were town in and the difference of your town/scum play is like a fucking day and night.

Anyways, you aren't making any sense so it probably makes you town.

On July 25 2015 23:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Current Day Votecount


barakos (6): raynpelikoneet, disformation, Breshke, Sulfurus, Rels, Damdred (misformated)
moosydoosy (1): Tictock
rels (1): n00bKing
rayn (1): ruXxar

so none of my scumreads are on the lynch i am pushing (except for maybe Sulfurus but i am back to thinking he is town).
I am fairly certain Flexes is mafia aswell. Another player i think is scum is Tictock. And he is ACTUALLY pushing something else (Moosy). It doesn't make any sense for him to disagree with the case AND to think i am mafia when he does never address my case at all. Also his reasoning for thinking i am mafia is terrible and has no substance. Like 2/4 of the reasons aren't even reasons that can possibly make someone scum. "you post much, therefore you are mafia". Does that seem like a reasonable read?

On July 25 2015 23:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And please stop saying things like "if this then that".
Yes it is impossible i am mafia with Barakos, but you should not be saying/thinking like that.

What is the point of saying "if this then that" when there is no "this"?
What you say means absolutely nothing.

On July 25 2015 23:31 ruXxar wrote:
So I tried a new theory.
I'm assuming barakos is mafia, and scum are afraid to speak up in his defense since his posts are pretty bad.
I think mafia would then if not defend barakos, just not comment on him at or give an opinion on him.

These are the people that haven't mentioned/given an opinion barakos:

MoosyDoosy
TicTock
NocturneMage
Flexes

Found barakos scum partners right here.

On July 26 2015 03:32 Damdred wrote:
I'm not sure why you are explaining your scum read of rayn to rayn?

On July 26 2015 07:42 Damdred wrote:


Maybe if you want to lose 99% of the time probably

On July 26 2015 07:50 Damdred wrote:
An apology for what? To trying to tell you that 99% of the time the mafia who aren't going to die that day will vote is the truth

On July 25 2015 23:31 ruXxar wrote:
So I tried a new theory.
I'm assuming barakos is mafia, and scum are afraid to speak up in his defense since his posts are pretty bad.
I think mafia would then if not defend barakos, just not comment on him at all or give an opinion on him.

These are the people that haven't mentioned/given an opinion barakos:

MoosyDoosy
TicTock
NocturneMage
Flexes

Found barakos scum partners right here.

On July 26 2015 08:17 Damdred wrote:
Was the fight with ruxxor I thought it looked town vs town as neither gave a crap about how they looked and early mafia generally care more how they are looked at.

On July 24 2015 10:07 n00bKing wrote:

I think I'm in the same boat with you. I don't want to tell anyone how to play, but I would rather see that stop.

I'll be pretty surprised if he just completely bails on Day 1. What kind of example would that set for the newbies?!

lulz

On July 25 2015 06:47 n00bKing wrote:

Okay, then I agree with Moosy. You are dumb. I cannot begin to imagine how anyone could take that comment from Barakos seriously. Not for a moment did I think he was trying to buddy up to me, or pocket me, or give a read on me. It's clearly a joke. And in fact, the post from me that he was responding to when he made the joke, was ALSO a joke. His joke plays off of mine.

On July 26 2015 09:41 Damdred wrote:
Why is rels suspicious tt when he called the post out so early? And bara spewed him town

On July 26 2015 11:00 n00bKing wrote:

You are EXACTLY RIGHT. I am now VERY interested to hear how you selected those 3 particular names, to see if you used precisely the same reasoning I did or not.

(Note that "most likely bussers" and "most likely scum" are not exactly the same thing.)

On July 26 2015 11:06 n00bKing wrote:

If I've been warm and jokey, then I wasn't just too friendly with Barakos. I've been friendly with a lot of people. Except Rels. Fuck Rels. :D

Because it WAS a joke. Barakos AFK'd the rest of the Phase, so he never came back to confirm it. But ask him after the game is over. I bet he'll tell you it was a joke.

Again, probably shouldn't be trying to peg people as power roles...

And it's fine that you're not confident calling me confirmed Town yet. I think there are several very good reasons for people to be Townreading me. I would not try to demand that anyone call me "confirmed Town." Like, those are big words, and should not be thrown around lightly.

On July 26 2015 11:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
To be honest, I'm getting a lot busier so I wouldn't mind if you all lynched me so that my obligation to this game is gone. So please wagon me on ruXxar so I can shove this mislynch in his face in our next game.

On July 26 2015 12:24 Sulfurus wrote:


You always call my posts bad. I'm supporting your reads and you're still calling it bad.

On July 26 2015 12:24 Sulfurus wrote:


You always call my posts bad. I'm supporting your reads and you're still calling it bad.

On July 26 2015 13:49 Tictock wrote:
One thing I'd like to point out about that lynch...

Since Bara abandoned the thread very early and was also under suspicion rather early I think it is highly likely that his teammates bussed him, and possibly bussed him early.

It largely depends on how Bara actually exited the game, which is impossible for town to know. However if Bara gave up shortly after making his last post in the game he might very well have told his team to buss him for the towncred.

If Bara tried to plan with his team how they might get pressure off him and elsewhere, or if Bara left without talking to his team, then scum would have bussed him much later.

Either way I think it is very likely that at least one of the remaining scumteam was bussing Bara, possibly both.

It does seem less likely that scum lets their votes afk when they could easily grab some towncred for lynching their buddy. Not enough to clear MD or Flex though.