On July 27 2015 05:13 n00bKing wrote: #9: NocturneMage - Might be a bit higher, if it didn't seem like he can't be paired with either of my highest scumreads. (Hooray for association cases!) Later posts do seem better, but some of the early posts are pretty damn unhelpful. Don't know who mentioned it, but he had a tendency early to just ask people questions about what they thought about someone else's stated opinion. These questions had predictable answers, that would probably be short and not generate much interesting discussion. Asking questions is good. But asking questions like that is bad, because they take up just as much space in your filter (so it looks like you're participating and being inquisitive) but it doesn't actually go anywhere. Happily engages in a worthless discussion about his experience in RL Mafia games, while failing to actually draw conclusions about what is going on.
On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote: Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts...
Interesting. Well then yeah, Barakos made a really good point about why Mage is suspicious! lol
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Was Barakos in any trouble yet, at that point? Is it possible he was pushing Mage to make Mage look better if Barakos got lynched? Or was this all too early for that?
On July 27 2015 04:26 disformation wrote: Mh. Got kinda ninjaed by MoosyDoosy, Both his town circle and his PoE list look rather agreeable and is probably something town would avoid to post like this.
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Do you mean scum would avoid posting it, instead of town? Otherwise, I can't figure out that sentence.
I feel like scum would leave itself with more null or "unsure on that guy" reads in order to have some room to wiggle around later on. E.g. could I see scum cutting 1-2 ppl from your town circle and be like "eh I have a slight lean, need to reread". So they can jump onto them if someone makes a good case or something. And/Or overall more waffly reads.
On July 27 2015 05:13 n00bKing wrote: #9: NocturneMage - Might be a bit higher, if it didn't seem like he can't be paired with either of my highest scumreads. (Hooray for association cases!) Later posts do seem better, but some of the early posts are pretty damn unhelpful. Don't know who mentioned it, but he had a tendency early to just ask people questions about what they thought about someone else's stated opinion. These questions had predictable answers, that would probably be short and not generate much interesting discussion. Asking questions is good. But asking questions like that is bad, because they take up just as much space in your filter (so it looks like you're participating and being inquisitive) but it doesn't actually go anywhere. Happily engages in a worthless discussion about his experience in RL Mafia games, while failing to actually draw conclusions about what is going on.
That would be barakos confirmed scum:
On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote: Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts...
Interesting. Well then yeah, Barakos made a really good point about why Mage is suspicious! lol
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Was Barakos in any trouble yet, at that point? Is it possible he was pushing Mage to make Mage look better if Barakos got lynched? Or was this all too early for that?
On July 27 2015 04:26 MoosyDoosy wrote: It would be great if n00bKing could look into the associative cases of these three since he’s good at that and stop being tunneled on Rels for a moment.
You gonna say stuff like this to me every single game? I have to keep going back to Rels only because no one else is posting any arguments against him where I can be like "Yeah, that." It's not going to keep me from looking at everything else. It's not like I'm so focused on Rels that I can't think about or talk about anything else. I read like 9 filters during this Phase, okay? I'll have my head in the game.
Uh, which part. The tunneled part which is true? Or the the associative case part which you're the best at? Either way I'll read Rels filter and yours again just to make you happy.
The part where every game, you tell me to not get so tunneled, even though I'm participating in conversations on every topic that gets raised. At worst, you could accuse me of confirmation bias. So that although I'm looking at everything, I keep bringing myself back to the same conclusions about Rels, and can't shake myself out of it. But someday I'll show you an example of a player who has true tunnel vision, and literally will not talk about anything or think about anything except their lynch target. Then you can compare that to the way I behaved this game and the last game, and see what I mean. (It's also worth nothing that when I was "tunneled" on TJ in our last game, he WAS scum.)
On July 27 2015 04:26 disformation wrote: Mh. Got kinda ninjaed by MoosyDoosy, Both his town circle and his PoE list look rather agreeable and is probably something town would avoid to post like this.
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Do you mean scum would avoid posting it, instead of town? Otherwise, I can't figure out that sentence.
I feel like scum would leave itself with more null or "unsure on that guy" reads in order to have some room to wiggle around later on. E.g. could I see scum cutting 1-2 ppl from your town circle and be like "eh I have a slight lean, need to reread". So they can jump onto them if someone makes a good case or something. And/Or overall more waffly reads.
So the answer is yes, you meant "scum" where you put "town?" If so, everything makes sense.
On July 27 2015 05:13 n00bKing wrote: #9: NocturneMage - Might be a bit higher, if it didn't seem like he can't be paired with either of my highest scumreads. (Hooray for association cases!) Later posts do seem better, but some of the early posts are pretty damn unhelpful. Don't know who mentioned it, but he had a tendency early to just ask people questions about what they thought about someone else's stated opinion. These questions had predictable answers, that would probably be short and not generate much interesting discussion. Asking questions is good. But asking questions like that is bad, because they take up just as much space in your filter (so it looks like you're participating and being inquisitive) but it doesn't actually go anywhere. Happily engages in a worthless discussion about his experience in RL Mafia games, while failing to actually draw conclusions about what is going on.
That would be barakos confirmed scum:
On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote: Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts...
Interesting. Well then yeah, Barakos made a really good point about why Mage is suspicious! lol
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Was Barakos in any trouble yet, at that point? Is it possible he was pushing Mage to make Mage look better if Barakos got lynched? Or was this all too early for that?
It was 1 hour after game start.
Okay. Then I guess I feel a little better about him. And if I feel a little better about Moosy too, then the Town list starts to get really big, and starts to leave a gap between the 3 names at the bottom (Flexes/Rels/Sulfurus) and everyone else. But with there only being 2 Scum left, I guess having a short suspect list is okay.
On July 27 2015 04:26 disformation wrote: Mh. Got kinda ninjaed by MoosyDoosy, Both his town circle and his PoE list look rather agreeable and is probably something town would avoid to post like this.
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Do you mean scum would avoid posting it, instead of town? Otherwise, I can't figure out that sentence.
I feel like scum would leave itself with more null or "unsure on that guy" reads in order to have some room to wiggle around later on. E.g. could I see scum cutting 1-2 ppl from your town circle and be like "eh I have a slight lean, need to reread". So they can jump onto them if someone makes a good case or something. And/Or overall more waffly reads.
So the answer is yes, you meant "scum" where you put "town?" If so, everything makes sense.
Oh lol. yes! Didn't see that. xD Sorry I am kinda tired. xD
On July 27 2015 06:39 MoosyDoosy wrote: How many hours until night time ends?
20 minutes, I think.
Well it was nice knowing whoever is going to die. Hopefully we'll get information from this death. In the >1% chance that I die, my list of reads is what I'll leave behind.
I know that the Mafia attacked me on Night 1 of Newbie 11, and that they attacked me on Night 2 of Newbie 12. So maybe you are thinking of attacking me tonight, too. But don't do it!
n00bKing wrote:having so much crossover in the player lists for the Newbie games is making it feel more like a "community" I guess. In the first game, I didn't know anyone so there wasn't anything to do but get down to business. I am also in a lighter mood because my move is finished (whereas it was in-progress during the first game, and I was busy unpacking all the time during the second game) and because my birthday is this weekend. w00t!
On July 27 2015 06:44 n00bKing wrote: Dear Bad Guys,
I know that the Mafia attacked me on Night 1 of Newbie 11, and that they attacked me on Night 2 of Newbie 12. So maybe you are thinking of attacking me tonight, too. But don't do it!
n00bKing wrote:having so much crossover in the player lists for the Newbie games is making it feel more like a "community" I guess. In the first game, I didn't know anyone so there wasn't anything to do but get down to business. I am also in a lighter mood because my move is finished (whereas it was in-progress during the first game, and I was busy unpacking all the time during the second game) and because my birthday is this weekend. w00t!
Don't kill me on my birthday, you dicks!
The chance you die tonight if you are town are pretty much 0% unless rels is scum and feels very pressured.
My observation of n00b is that his play sort of fits with a veteran trying to take a mafia bullet for town. So yeah, if n00b is a PR I think he's a veteran.
ruXxar let's not delve into that. That just gives scum more ideas and creates too many mindgames. And n00bKing has been killed on his first night for all his games except for the one before this.
The Mafia players are dicks. Lynch somebody who is a dick.
My death could mean that Rels is scum and wanted to silence me, but it could just as easily be a frame-up. So I don't know if that is "actionable." I would say it just means Rels becomes a better Cop check than he was already. You'll still have my filter here, so just keep the things I've said about Rels in mind, as the game goes on.
Trying to think what else it might mean if I am killed. Might bizarrely implicate Ticktock. Don't have time to really flesh that thought out, but hopefully someone could figure out what I mean. Definitely would look bad for Sulfurus. And I don't think anyone would bother trying to "frame" Sulfurus, when he's already scumread by a few people, and not being helpful even if he's Town. My death is scum-indicative for Sulfurus, I think.