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Damdred
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ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
On July 29 2015 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: Please lynch TT he is scum. Breshke is not mafia. Neither is sulfurus. Neither is moose. Who is the last mafia? | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On July 25 2015 14:02 Sulfurus wrote: I'll start with my read on Barakos since it was the easiest to figure out, just look at this post. And he puts in a series of quotes, with the last one being Barakos' ill-fated "weather here in Germany sucks" post. He then adds: Sulfurus wrote: At first I was very excited to see this since it has the same 'shape' as his posts from NSMX where he had nothing but good logic. However the actual content of the post has none of the strong conclusions that I associate with Barakos. It looks like it was written so people couldn't say he hasn't given reads instead of trying to catch mafia. What's unusual about this is that Sulfurus had already posted after that post from Barakos, and made no mention of it whatsoever. But once Sulfurus decides it is time to label Barakos as scum, suddenly the reasoning behind it is that old post. If he had said that after some additional consideration, he eventually decided that this thing or that thing about the post seemed a little scummy, then fine. But phrasing like "it was the easiest to figure out" and "just look at this post" makes it sound to me like he's saying the post was slap-u-in-the-face scummy from the moment he saw it. If that were the case, then why did he keep those impressions to himself, while posting about other things? And not tell us about this obviously scummy behavior until it sheeps thread sentiment? I won't try to tell you this is nail-in-the-coffin proof of Sulfurus' guilt. But it's another point against him. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
On July 27 2015 12:44 Tictock wrote: Just FYI If Mossy is actually mafia like I think he is... then you all have my permission to lynch me when I come up on Sul's PoE list. Maybe scum!Sul puts Bara on that list to get the town cred. No way does scum!Sul bus both his teammates in the first 2 days. What if this really says: "If Mossy would be mafia like I know he is not, then you have my permission to lnyhc me when I come up on Sul's PoE list. Let me go ahead and prepare a Sul misslynch." But I really liked this: On July 28 2015 09:03 Tictock wrote: Quick post while on my meal break. Sulf is actually looking less and less likely to be mafi here... His posting looks pretty similar to his town game in NSM X. While I still think it is likely that at least one mafia bussed Bara, I do agree with Damdred and rayn here that it is a smart to focus on the people not on the Bara wagon. I think ruxx is town, and I've already stated my opinions on Moosy. As for scott... Idk seems odd how he is just sheeping cases before he is done catching up with the game. I also would expect him to take more time trying to get a read on me. Scott has played with me more than anyone here and like Damdred he was in Holy Guardians where I managed to get Scott lynched in LyLo. I'd expect Scott to be able to read me better, or at least put some effort into trying to... Breshke is also lurking really hardcore this game, really making me think he is scum. I was masons with Bre and so I know he doesn't feel confident as scum (we talked about alot of stuff). Just remembered the two of them being masons together yesterday and wanted to ask them about each other... like... is the scum team Breshke + flexes/scott ? | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On July 28 2015 12:50 MoosyDoosy wrote: I'm town, ruXxar's town, I think Tictock's town. This basically leaves us just scott. But as someone pointed out, rayn's claim as Veteran leaves us with a Vigi. Which means we either have a dumb Vigi who didn't shoot N1 or scott as Vigi which makes me reluctant to lynch him because of this fact. Decided my response to this post is counter-productive. Flagging just so I'll have it in my own filter to remind me later. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
I don't see any scum motivation. I could basically make the same argument against you for the way you responded to Barakos post. In fact I think you look even worse in the way you dealt with Barakos. | ||
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Germany8352 Posts
He is noticeable nice to me (e.g. putting me above rayne and damdred on his town list) all game. Metaread or a Buddying/Pocketing attempt? His case/read on Rayn D1 is pretty bad, but I know him as the guy who tunnels a blue for 2 cycles straight as town, so I don't think he is scum for that. =p | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
My tinfoil hat senses are tingling. If we have a medic I think they should out so we can lynch confirmed town rayn. If medic doesn't claim today I will consider rayn 100% town for the rest of the game. | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On July 28 2015 17:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: "I am sure scott is mafia, breshke is scummy too." Lets not vote for the guy i am SURE is mafia. As Ticktock pointed out, this is the opposite of what actually happened. But then AFTER you make this post, he switches his vote from Breshke (positively Scum) to Scott (pretty sure he's Scum) and suddenly your point is actually correct! Which means that Ticktock is actively helping you portray him as Scum, by flip-flopping on this position. Scum are more likely to flip-flop when it's convenient. Here, Ticktock is flip-flopping to his own detriment, right in front of the person who was already pushing his lynch. I know, I know. "WIFOM" you tell me. But it's not pure WIFOM. This is slightly Town-indicative, and it's a player I was already townreading beforehand. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
MD or TT could be scum, but I don't strongly believe that and am not sure who of the two is more likely to be scum. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
TT is not scum with Scott or moosy. TT tried hard to lynch moosy, and Scott is first vote on TT today. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On July 29 2015 02:51 ruXxar wrote: Heres a fact: TT is not scum with Scott or moosy. TT tried hard to lynch moosy, and Scott is first vote on TT today. If TT flips Mafia, I am not town. If TT flips town, I am not Mafia. I already explained this in a previous post of mine, but your statement that it's one or the other is completely false. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
On July 29 2015 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote: If TT flips Mafia, I am not town. If TT flips town, I am not Mafia. I already explained this in a previous post of mine, but your statement that it's one or the other is completely false. If TT flips mafia you are town in my eyes. If TT flips town you could be either alignment. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
TT and n00bking the 2 biggest resistors of the barakos lynch, yet still calling him semi scummy and being agreeable to his lynch to give themself an out later. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On July 29 2015 02:56 ruXxar wrote: If TT flips mafia you are town in my eyes. If TT flips town you could be either alignment. He's going to flip town. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
Looking a bit through TT's filter at first I liked a bunch of his recent posts.... then... [QUOTE]On July 27 2015 12:44 Tictock wrote: [QUOTE]On July 27 2015 12:33 Sulfurus wrote: [QUOTE]On July 27 2015 10:46 scott31337 wrote: [QUOTE]On July 27 2015 10:37 Sulfurus wrote: I did NOT get roleblocked last night. And if you did I recommend claiming cause it's kinda like a green check.[/QUOTE] Who do you think are the last two mafia?[/QUOTE] My reads are pretty much the same as I listed them [url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/490503-newbie-student-mafia-xiii?page=31#610]here[/url]. Now that Barakos is dead Moosy is next up. ##Vote: MoosyDoosy[/QUOTE] Just FYI If Mossy is actually mafia like I think he is... then you all have my permission to lynch me when I come up on Sul's PoE list. Maybe scum!Sul puts Bara on that list to get the town cred. No way does scum!Sul bus both his teammates in the first 2 days.[/QUOTE] What if this really says: "If Mossy would be mafia like I know he is not, then you have my permission to lnyhc me when I come up on Sul's PoE list. Let me go ahead and prepare a Sul misslynch." I had this exact same thought, too. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On July 28 2015 20:49 Breshke wrote: Yeah because i thought about it some more. Okay so this is flexes last post. So IF he is town he actually has SOME stuff written at this stage. Then something (lets hope not serious) happens and he can no longer play. So he lets LS know that he can no longer play. There is no way he doesnt post what he had so far into the thread. Idk if this is OGI or what because im fairly sure flexes would have had to tell LS to replace out (considering the timing) so he would have posted what he had ya know. So it makes sense if he is scum, actually had like nothing when he posted that was stalling and then had to go and because of that his slot has shat the bed because soctt can't defend specifically against this he has to instead be super townie which isn't really happening. This is a very good point. It is something I hadn't actually thought of myself, and is one of the Towniest posts that Breshke has made in this game. Are we allowed to ask the host whether Flexes ever contacted him to be replaced out? Or whether the mod just replaced him out without ever hearing from him? Because if it's the latter, fine, NAI. But if it's the former, it does increase the chance that Flexes was Scum. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On July 29 2015 01:12 ruXxar wrote: Has breshke been mafia before? With 15 games I would think so. He should know these things right? Humm. You are voting for me, but you are not reading my posts... I posted a list of all the games Bre's been in, his alignments, and links to his filters. Copied it from the TL Mafia Database... Wondering if Ruxx is actually Mafia here now. He's been all over the place, voted off the Bara wagon (with me no less) and doesn't really seem to care where his vote goes EXPECT he never once put it on Bara. Interesting. Just sayin that if I do get lynched here it's pretty obv that you all should look harder at Scott and Ruxx tomorrow for their votes on me. | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On July 28 2015 21:56 Breshke wrote: I could be wrong but im fairly sure you HAVE TO roleblock someone like you can't abstain. And this is like my least favorite post from Breshke in the entire game. Someone else said they thought Breshke has actually BEEN roleblocker before. If we could get some confirmation on that it would help. But this post reeks of "Look, I can't be on the team that has the roleblocker, I don't even know how a roleblocker works!" And it is not town-indicative WIFOM because if he is Scum, this post does not hurt him at all. This type of WIFOM is strictly upside from the Scum perspective. | ||
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